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The only Pokémon I’ve played is Pokémon go

Charizard is a cool dragon Though glad I got him

Um, isn't this game only Gen 2 and 3 pokemon?

-M

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◓ Each role is based off of a specific Pokémon from the franchises second and third Generation.

Wait where does it say that

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◓ Each role is based off of a specific Pokémon from the franchises second and third Generation.

Wait where does it say that

ur way too slow. I already quoted it lol

Yeah, people are posting way too fast for me to keep up.

-M

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chow chow chowing chowchow chowder chows chowe chow

-chow

Is this Hectic?

~Innuendos (Nancy)

Truth is Marashu and Lies is Auro,

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thinking about it, mastina, maybe you should put a reduction to the number of peeps who should visit you? Like, restrict it to half the PL or something, cuz i doubt we'd gain much worth from 4-5 of our powerful PRs taking a shot on you on the long term

also VOTE: alexandrite less talk more scrap

But how would that be determined? It’s not like we’re doing a mass claim on D1.

~Innuendos

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JUST SIGN WITH YOUR NAME

No, it’s more fun to meme.

Once again: Truth=Marashu
Innuendos=Me
Lies=Auro

@mod, can you make a hydra key and how each head would sign? Please and thank you.

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thinking about it, mastina, maybe you should put a reduction to the number of peeps who should visit you? Like, restrict it to half the PL or something, cuz i doubt we'd gain much worth from 4-5 of our powerful PRs taking a shot on you on the long term

also VOTE: alexandrite less talk more scrap

But how would that be determined? It’s not like we’re doing a mass claim on D1.

~Innuendos

just have mastina make an arbitrary way to separate things, if she's town we're good if she's scum we can prob read into the list she gives

statistically it would be hard for a random list to not contain any good PR

That’s fine but if she’s town, then it’s in our interest that she be visited by the most powerful prs first and I don’t want a mass claim this early and there’s no way to decide that without putting targets on people’s heads.

~Innuendos

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well, it's true that this way of doing things lower the chances of having the best role visit (although that might not even be the case depending on the tiebreaker for multiple visits)

but like, generally, the 2nd / 3rd / even 4th best role are not gonna be significantly weaker than the very best

She said she default coppies first pr right? The obvious problem with that is if Mastina’s town, then if the most powerful pr visits her first, then we get double. Well, I would strongly suggest that any relatively weak prs, use their abilities elsewhere. This will ensure we get a double dose of strong tpr.

~I

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Wait nvm I actually love chow's posts

Yeah but I cant read them off drawings

If one head of chow’s is Hectic, he has pretty good reads. He caught all the scum in me v Titus.

~I

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you can't seriously be suggesting how we interact with an anonymous hydra based on a guess of the identity of the one of the heads

If I’m right, he did something very similar as Red in Pokemon Battles. I think that slot is > rand town, fite me.

~I

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Town: Shea, maybe STD, slappykrew, esuriohydra

Scum: mastina, whemestar

I’ll be here all week thanks

Why is Mastina scum? I have no clue on Wheme so far.

Reading Mastina correctly in this game is super important considering her claim.

~I

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No. I think that’s mastinas role regardless of alignment, but could easily see it being a setup for a scum watcher to out PRs. That’s not why I’m scumreading her though, I don’t like her readslist.

Wheme is very meh so far.

Ninja-

AYE AYE MATEY

I’ll wait for bell before I move the vote tho

but if she’s town, it would give us a huge advantage. So parsing her correctly (as best we can) before EoD should obviously be a priority.

~I

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Reading Mastina correctly in this game is super important considering her claim.

lol no

She claims she can copy a tpr role, so how is that not important?

~I

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Reading Mastina correctly in this game is super important considering her claim.

lol no

She claims she can copy a tpr role, so how is that not important?

~I

i don't know enough about setup to know if its important or not. Nor do i care.

Assuming she’s telling the truth about her role: copying - we obviously don’t want important tprs targetting her with their roles as scum but if she’s town, town gets a double dose, so yeah, it’s huge.

~I

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Dayvig: SirCakez

Hello everyone!

-Lies (Auro)

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Dayvig: SirCakez

Hello everyone!

-Lies (Auro)

Wtf are you doing?

~I

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good dayvig
I can never read him

But we aren’t one, which is why I’m .

~I

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SirCakez has gone silent in the last 2 minutes after my DayVig - that surely proves that he is guilty!

-Lies

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Sorry Innuendo but I must take control of our hydra's vote and hammer this slot so early in the day.

VOTE: Sharing a Brain Cell

-Lies

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Sorry Innuendo but I must take control of our hydra's vote and hammer this slot so early in the day.

VOTE: Sharing a Brain Cell

-Lies

You are such a clown. <3

Not opposed to this vote, brain does seem a bit off.

~I

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I understand that people still want to meme if they didn't get their fill of memes earlier but I think there's enough thats happened here that people should not be memeing.

if you want to reduce the memes in the game, have you considered eliminating chowchow!

(I'm still down to go back to voting STD if that gets momentum)

chowchow is very likely town - especially if it’s Hectic.

I’m not sure how I feel about StD yet. I think his reaction to fire wagon was a bit over the top but beyond that I’m unsure.

~I

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TIL could be scum

Nope

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Hydra communicating not via outside source is typically >rand scum imo

I do it everytime I hydra, so try again.

~I

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Some hydras feel the need to play up the dissonance to 11 as either alignment. This is one of many reasons why hydrae suck.

I’m not playing anything up. Auro and me have very different playstyles.

~I

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if you keep talking about chowchow maybe being hectic I'm going to pretend I scumread you

We’re not scum and I wouldn’t be at all shocked if I’m right about that. This is totally his imo. Should I link PB for you?

~I

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Some hydras feel the need to play up the dissonance to 11 as either alignment. This is one of many reasons why hydrae suck.

I typically use discord and scream into the void if the other person is AWOL.

There’s typically a difference between mild dissonance and talking to their partners in thread, though

Ninja-
I’m good, thanks though! Clearly not the only person who thinks it

Whatever, we’re still town.

~I

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I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

VOTE: TIL

You spelled town wrong.

~I

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I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

I am supportive of this vote. Even though I am not voting with it. Let this be known.

Well, that’s on you then because we’re definitely town here.

~I

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To be honest, I've never been a fan of Pokimane anyway.

-Lies

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if you keep talking about chowchow maybe being hectic I'm going to pretend I scumread you

We’re not scum and I wouldn’t be at all shocked if I’m right about that. This is totally his imo. Should I link PB for you?

~I

what the hell is this post saying lol

Pokemon Battles

He was Red in that.

~I

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Great, chowchow is locktown!

-Lies

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I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

VOTE: TIL

You spelled town wrong.

~I

Are we pulling the self-vote tactic this early Nancy??!

-Lies

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I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

VOTE: TIL

You spelled town wrong.

~I

VOTE: SleepyKrew

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I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

VOTE: TIL

You spelled town wrong.

~I

Are we pulling the self-vote tactic this early Nancy??!

-Lies

No, I meant to vote SK but three slots I think are town are voting StD and I don’t tr him but SK’s vote was scummy. So feel free to switch it to that.

~I

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yeah I'm gonna add heads talking to each other in here instead of privately as another reason for my very real scumread

Enjoy being wrong then.


I still think you’re vote on us is through the roof scummy but chow, TSQ and now T3 are sr STD and I have not felt good about him, so you’re in luck for now.

VOTE: STD

~I

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T3 is probably town as is Wisdom.

I think so. I could switch to Brain but I think STD is more likely to be scum. No one has any meta on Brain but three people are sr STD which they do.

~I

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Nancy how do you feel about me
What if i told you std is town

UNVOTE:

I tr you.

~I

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ok i don't get it

you yourself admit the wagon is dumb

me calling it out as such is just me being honest about an objectively dumb wagon

pedit

i wanted to call out this wagon as specifically dumb because it's what i saw, there's no special motive or anything. just because wagons that are dumb happen doesn't mean i'm not allowed to call it out as such

pedit

holy shit what am i lying about

How is the wagon on firebringer more objectively dumb than a couple people saying they were going to policy sirCakez?

And I don't believe that you don't have a purpose when you make posts generally speaking.

It's not that you aren't allowed to call things out as dumb, it speaks to me to your mindset when you're reading the thread. It's like, a very surface level thing to call out, because you know its SUPPOSED to be dumb. So it looks to me like you're trying to sort of insert yourself into a pseudo serious discussion while actually saying literally nothing of consequence. It looks like you're talking about the game but you're actually not. I don't see a lot of town players feel the need to comment on how things in RVS are dumb, because they're too busy doing dumb things in RVS and they know it doesn't matter.

It's like simultaneously hyper aware of gamestate but not aware of the normal flow of a mafia game at the same time.

so yeah, that draws a vote.

TSQ UTR DREAM

have literally no clue what this means.

I also kind of agree with wisdom that nancy will become incredibly easy to town bin at some point so not super interested in looking there today maybe? But I don't know how the dynamics of a hydra change that fact.

The exact same thing happened in Post Apocalypse. Auro likes to make reads based off of who jumps on him and why. That generally just confuses me.

~I

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tempted to sheep Wisdom so he doesn't kill me

You should

well we're agreeing on Brain Cell so Imma stick with that for now
not sold on TIL

We’re not only town but there’s a > rand chance we wind up solving this game.

~I

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Wait Nancy are you claiming you do not jump on people for making reads in you and why? That was not my experience in the entirety of team mafia.

No, you misunderstood - that or I didn’t explain it fully. Auro does what he did here and in PA as a way of helping him to make reads. Do you get it now?

~I

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ok then do it

I never said it would happen today but we’re trying.

~I

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Ah, auro is reaction testing is what you're saying.

Yes, exactly.

~I

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I'm pretty skeptical of "ok we're going to solve the game" claims tbh.

I find they're frequently made by mafia who are attempting to inflate their own importance.

Again see FL in team mafia.

I don’t want to veer into trusttell territory but it would be an incredibly stupid thing for me to claim if we were actually scum.

~I

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auro will probably try to elim me this game

Well he probably will defer to me. I hated your opening posts but they’ve gotten better since then.

~I

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i think a lot of things can be said about std's play so far.

flying under the radar doesn't seem like one of them.

I stiil don’t like STD but I tr Wisdom and he’s confident on STD town and he has much better > rand reads, except chow. When a slot asks you to trust them, it’s > greater than rand, that slot is town. And I still think chow is Hectic.

~I

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=35195

Red was Hectic

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A lot of people - including me - thought Red was scummy until he caught scum. Gamma was also in that game. I’m curious to hear his thoughts on that.

~I

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I don't think it matters if chowchow is hectic. Also, the gimmick is similar but not identifiable in any way. Seems like anyone could do this gimmick and its not a hard one to think of.

True but my money’s still on chow being Hectic and he has better > rand reads. And I’m torn because so does Wisdom.

~I

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is there anyone else in this game you'd attribute > random reads to?

micc

predit: yeah still jiving with tsq

If this is to me. it’s based off of experience playing with both Wisdom and Hectic.

~I

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is there anyone else in this game you'd attribute > random reads to?

micc

predit: yeah still jiving with tsq

did u ask this thinking it would help u read TIL?

Idk if Micc can read me correctly but duckling should.

~I

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=35982
yeah unless hectic is deliberately obfuscating his art style, this isn't hectic

-Gamma

Hectic has an art style? I still think it’s probably town. I’m disappointed in Dwelee.

~I

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did u ask this thinking it would help u read TIL?

yeah, its something I'd like to file away and probably come back to later.

If this is to me. it’s based off of experience playing with both Wisdom and Hectic

yes, the question was to you. can you answer it?

micc

I thought I already did. Both have had far better than > rand reads in past games I’ve been in with them.

~I

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Save The Dragons is the only leading wagon I understand at this point. Haven't seen a case to the Brain Cell or Milobird votes.

Firebringer had some votes but the wagon quickly died off. Not interested in voting there.
the brief chowchow wagon was fine. I don't see voting people who are strictly here to meme as productive, but I am generally on board to policy lim them sooner rather than later.

nancy not answering the questing is kinda irritating but very much in line with what I'd expect.

micc

I don’t understand, I answered it already twice. What do you think I haven’t responded to?

~I

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I'm kind of unsure why TIL is focusing so heavily on who chowchow is instead of sorting. It's a very similar ping to what I attacked STD for.

I have been sorting. Why are you saying I haven’t?

~I

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@brain, why do so many of your posts have so many words and so little content?

I’m thinking Wisdom may be right about this. When you find a post with an excessive amount of words and it’s not really saying much, there’s an above > than rand chance it’s scum.

VOTE: Brain

~I

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pedit: what is going on with y'all TIL, do you not chat amongst yourselves at all

the dissonance is giving me a headache

- q

I mean, kind of, but we're also not really agreeing on reads right now (One if not both of my partners are TRing my top scumread, so there's that...)

-M

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I’ve already got three of the scumteam. This game is easy mode.

I’m assuming you mean Wheme. I disagree with you on Wisdom and want to see more from Mastina. She can be alignment read off tone for me but I haven’t heard enough from her yet to be able to accurately tell. What is Wheme doing here differently than in his other games? Can you explain these reads to me?

~I

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What makes you think Wisdom is a scumread of mine?

Wheme is based off his (lack of) engagement with the game- all he’s successfully done is Shit posted despite there being plenty to dig into. I’m unimpressed by mastinas readslist, but this could change with more from her.

Now that I’ve acknowledged it’s not wisdom- who do you think my third is?

Ninja-
Aye matey, ye should know how slippery I be. It be from covering meself in moss off the starboard bow.

Oh well that’s good then. So you don’t mean Mastina either. Well, I don’t know then other than Wheme.

~I

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chow chow chowing chowchow chowder chows chowe chow

-chow

Is this Hectic?

~Innuendos (Nancy)

Truth is Marashu and Lies is Auro,

I have seen other Hectic alts use some kind of paint app. Maybe.

I’m glad someone else sees what I see.

~I

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Flavour Spec time: I'm currently guessing that the Team Rocket characters are not the Jessie/James/Meowth trio. I'm willing to bet that it's going to be Giovanni (Fire Red/Leaf Green), and the 4 execs from Gold/Silver (who were given names in Heart Gold/Soul Silver - Archer, Ariana, Petrel, and Proton). This makes more sense to me because of the confirmed 5 scum members and the fact that this game is role madness, making it less likely that a Rocket Goon would be thrown in the mix.

-M

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i feel like theres always at least one scum who speculates on game mechanics instead of actually interacting with the game. TIL could be that scum

Your read on me apparently hasn’t improved since Doubles.

~I

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i feel like theres always at least one scum who speculates on game mechanics instead of actually interacting with the game. TIL could be that scum

Your read on me apparently hasn’t improved since Doubles.

~I

Good thing a bad read has never stopped me from continuing to play. I would have stopped playing long ago

Maybe you and TSQ should read some of my scumgames.

~I

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Nancy he doesn’t even mean your head of the hydra I don’t think, it’s Marashu who’s mech speccing rn

-Gamma

But usually people can tell this is my obvtown game. I realize that but the problem is people are using genaric bad reasons to parse us, which is not terribly useful, so it’s annoying.

~I

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I have.

Then why are you still suspicious of me then?

~I

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I mean the opening post literally says all roles are Pokemon right

Hm, ok, fair. I'm wondering why Team Rocket would even need fakeclaims in that case, then.

-M

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@Nancy Drew 39

Spoiler:

~ chowchow

Awwe <3 <3 <3

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I like Imaginality for town I think

I don't think Gypyx is scummy but eh, not objecting either

He sounds similar to how he played in OMB.

Imaginality.

~I

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So tell me who 1 town person is who is not me or you cakey one

Sleepykrew

Hey Cakez, can you explain this read? Out of all of the playerlist, why pick SK?

~I

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Dwlee99 - my gut says they do more as scum.
Milobird (notscience + Bell) - i just think bell is scum, not yet sold on notty
T3 - was recently fooled by T3 but this doesn't feel like that same energy?
Save The Dragons - beep beep i'm a sheep
Wisdom - love being defended by him but i'm not sure where i'd place him yet
imaginality - think could be scum but will have to see more
Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume) - hasn't really said much of anything yet
Whemestar - don't think i've seen him this active seems too brazen for scum
The Goat - need more
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra) - i think it's possible to read people based off of images but i'd need more
mastina - oozing town
Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro) - i think by the grace of nancy this is town
Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens) - not enough info
Ralts - i like the readslist but i think i disagree with it
Gypyx - my read of him is clouded by his townread of me why take that stance as scum seems more like town pointing it out than scum TMIing
SirCakez - just not sure, a lot of posts are nothing
Woolax (wooper + Micc) - has done next to nothing all game
Thestatusquo - like a dog with a bone
SleepyKrew - has no reads, why is he getting town read?
Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous ) - hate some of their posts
Firebringer - i'm probably pocketed, this definitely could be scum but i'm not quite there

not in order

Town:
Dwlee99
T3
Whemestar
mastina
Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Ralts
Gypyx
Thestatusquo

Null:
Wisdom
Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)
The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
SirCakez
Firebringer

Scum:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
imaginality
Woolax (wooper + Micc)
SleepyKrew
Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous )

I think you’re probably town from this. I can read Bell when he’s playing solo, it’s more difficult in a hydra. Woolax: liked Micc’s posts but too little to have any opinion on them yet. Sk, yeah absolutely hated his vote on us, calling me “lockscum” for pretty much NIA reasons. Brain trs me but has also misrepped me to some extent. I neither complained that their posts were too long and I have less than 70 posts, not 400. I have only played one game with Imaginality where he was town in OMB but not sure why you sr him?

I don’t know if Gypyx is town but I don’t really understand the srs on him either. I think Fire is town, scum!Fire is far more likely to pocket everyone.

~I

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I like Imaginality for town I think

I don't think Gypyx is scummy but eh, not objecting either

He sounds similar to how he played in OMB.

Imaginality.

~I

Whats omb and what alignment was he there

Owner’s Market Blitz - town

~I

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is anyone complaining about ur posts being long

@brain, why do so many of your posts have so many words and

so little content

?

This is kind’ve a misrep. If was going to complain about post length, I’d be referencing Mastina. My issue was with the actual content per words. Mastina’s posts are long but they’re full of content.

Since I think it’s extremely obvious what my point actually was, I want to know why you’re framing it as me “complaining” about post length.

~I

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I have only played one game with Imaginality where he was town in OMB but not sure why you sr him?

193 - says nothing
197 - seems forced
487 - says nothing
503 - could be either alignment
670 - could be shade on a townie (yes i know i have SK as scum) there's no follow through
671 - says nothing
717 - says nothing
843 - could be either alignment
846 - could be scum jumping on the wagon, could be town seeing a problem with gypyx sure. this post puts some doubt into my read.
847 - throws shade around, but mostly says nothing

mostly gut at this point tbh

Having read no Imaginality scumgames, he still doesn’t sound much different from OMB though. I have some concern about Gypyx wagon and I wonder if scum could be on it. If Brain is scum and Gypyx town, that VC will be interesting to look at later.

~I

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Fire do you still dislike my slot and why? Thanks

-Lies

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Mastina, are you going to be generally active this game?

-Lies

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Hmm maybe I don't need to spend any effort reading anyone else outside of {SirCakez, Firebringer, Mastina} and let Nancy and Marashu do the rest.

Hmmmmm.

-Lies

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Spoiler:

~I

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milobird - why strong town, i feel like they're scummy
chowchow - why strong town, i feel like there's not enough to read
KTT - how do you have a read at all
Alexandrite - how do you have a read at all
Sleepykrew - how do you have a town read there's nothing going on
Mastina - why is this null she seems really town to me
TIL - why is this null nancy seems really town to me
Gypyx - why is this null he seems pretty polarizing

I already answered chow chow and milo.

KTT: I quite like kuribos post and thought I remembered content from mala as well that I liked earlier. But I just went back and looked at the iso and you're correct there's not as much meat there as I remembered there being. I still slightly town read Kuribo's entrance, but I think you're correct they're too high.

Alexandrite: I have a vague sort of tone town read on gamma specifically who I have a hell of a lot of experience with. It's really weak though.

Sleepykrew: Its a vague tonal read as well. I actually agreed with sircakez reasoning for finding SK town as I have him mildly townbinned for it as well. but I was surprised it was his number one response when I asked him for a town read.

Mastina: Agree to disagree. I've seen this from Mastina scum before many times. She hasn't done anything out of her scum range even a little bit.

TIL: I do not agree that nancy reads as town, obviously. I do not think she reads scum either exactly and its possible that I'm just picking up hydra dissonance but if you refer to anime destroys untrod tripod there was almost a sort of indiginance there when anyone scum read her which I'm just not quite picking up in the same way in this game. It's like she knows she needs to replicate that sort of reaction to being scum read but her heart isn't quite in it. This isn't enough to scum read her but its enough to not put her in a town bin for sure.

Gypyx: I've kind of talked about this previously but I don't really see the case on gypyx to the extent that it is being sold. I don't really agree with Bell that his interaction with me defending you for instance meets the criteria that people were saying for why they found him scummy. At the same time he also has not done much at all. So...you know, somewhere in the middle.

Also VOTE: firebringer

This interaction has pushed you into somewhere between the bottom of TRUE null and the top of mild scum.

Okay Shea, you’re being seriously unfair to me, after you read me the riot act for what you considered to be “toxic” behaviour from me in tm and after being annonously being blacklisted not once but twice not too long ago, I obviously had no choice but to dial that down.

If anyone seriously tries to push me, I promise you will see “indignence”. I’m just kind’ve irritated that you that you’re focusing on that specifically.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I'm just picking up hydra dissonance

Where have Nancy and I have exhibited dissonance?

-Lies

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I think its pretty funny to suggest that somehow I am "focusing" on that when the analysis came in a much larger post about other players and even the small part that was about you (explaining why you were in the null bin) referenced another possible explanation as well.

You brought that up as a reason to nullread me and it’s still a really sore subject for me, especially coming from you.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

pretty sure it was nancy and other head. u haven't given many opinions here auro from what ive seen

Cool - the last time he (or maybe it was someone else) mentioned hydra dissonance it was right after Nancy and I had a tiny exchange and I was shitposting (which wasn't a reaction test btw, I've evolved past that now) I found that interesting but didn't mention it.

-Lies

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I think its pretty funny to suggest that somehow I am "focusing" on that when the analysis came in a much larger post about other players and even the small part that was about you (explaining why you were in the null bin) referenced another possible explanation as well.

You brought that up as a reason to nullread me and it’s still a really sore subject for me, especially coming from you.

~I

With all due respect get over it in the context of this game. I enjoy you generally speaking and I don't want to cause you any pain but at the same time I have to sort you and I'm going to use the tools I have. Shrug.

Please don’t tell me to “get over it”. I may be over reacting but you have no idea how it feels, having two separate mods tell you that they can’t let you play their game - back to back because people “objected”. It hurt me terribly, so yes I probably am over reacting because it stilk really fucking hurts.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

i think i downplayed the "randomness." she literally quoted random posts and was like "Town." "Scum?" "Town!" "scum." to them it was bizarre. i mean i get that she got caught that way and could just...not do that, but it's just a different energy

Mastina seems to have been absent entirely for a while. As far as I recall, one distinction from her scum game was that as scum she'd drop in to post from time to time, just that the posts seemed very different from her townposting.

-Lies

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

auro will probably try to elim me this game

Do you remember our last game together?

See: team mafia in 2018 for a direct refutation to that as a function of mastina as scum.

Mastina's meta-play changed since then.

-Lies

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I think "they have played slightly differently in some games in the last three years" does not invalidate meta from before, it simply widens the range.

Widens the range of capability, sure, I'm simply arguing about the

likelihood

.

-Lies

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

@Auro, I lean town on her but if she displays the fire that she showed in games like OMB where I hard tr her oit of the gate, I can lock her in. She’s extremely passionate as town and almost robotic as scum.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I'm thinking that FB is likely town. Also feeling T3 and Dragons as town, but a bit less than FB.

Waiting for that "more" that Goat promised. I don't like how Goat felt the need to explain their entrance.

@Mod: Can you please also sort the VCs so that the most votes is on top? Thank you so much!

-M

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Reminder to myself and to anyone rereading the game in like 3 game days that chowchow and TIL are never red together.

We are not buddies with anyone and I strongly doubt chowchow is either. What I don’t understand is why you’re even making this post. I thought you had them as strong town?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I do have TIL on the townier side of null. I’m trying to think of how to articulate why though.

What do you think of Skrew?

the majority of Skrew's posts seem to be essentially complaining that people aren't taking the game seriously and then pushing STD

I could see Skrew being scum here

While y'all have me, I'll probably end up having to let chowchow coast to endgame regardless of their alignment, how the hell could I ever scumread that gimmick and avatar? Or townread the gimmick because it's fluffy NAIness, but that's beside the point because I can't scum read it. It's adorable. Just look at those widdle sets of eyes.

-k

What doesn’t make much sense to me is that Skrew right at the beginning of the game made this incredible fuss about us and Alendrite signing all of our posts, which read townie. However, he never followed that up by commenting on any of our heads nor Alexandrite’s, which I think is kind’ve weird. You would expect a player who cares so much about accurately parsing the different hydra heads to actually follow through on that but I have seen no attempt from him to attempt to weigh in on any of those hydra heads or any real sorting whatsoever.

They pounced on us calling us lockscum wity no real reasoning behind their vote, then pivoted to STD, also with no real reasoning. I earlier said that he voted us based off of surface level generic nai reasons but that wasn’t him who did that if irc?

Why anyone is tr that slot is completely baffling to me.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Sorry about your Mom Kuribo.

+1

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I can't read Mastina for shit on day one, just gonna call her town

I do have a flowchart for that, yaknow.

edit while reading further : yeah okay saw your answer to ralts, not a huge fan of admitting that you yourself are scummy but like i don't know how to play mafia so idk

I wasn't saying I was scummy, I was saying that I was aware that I was displaying the trait I'd expect that scum displayed but also acknowledging that I know it wouldn't be

only

scum displaying that trait.

I don't like Gypyx and Ralts jumping on mastina's comment about the people who see TSQ v STD as TvT being more likely scum than not.

I mean on the one hand I do think Gypyx's comment absolutely sucks.

On the other hand the Gypyx wagon gives off terrible vibes and feels like it fucking sucks, with scum latching onto it.

When I'm in a better mindset (hella tired right now, just reading to stay caught up, not really capable of good critical thinking), will be able to give that better thought.

Not Voting:

The Goat, mastina

MOD:

VOTE: SirCakez

I've not changed my vote once in the game; I should be on SirCakez

.

Goats entrance feels off to me so far. Complains about pages (frequent scum tactic when they're behind and need to say something) makes vague comment about the largest wagon maybe being scummy (how would you know? Maybe because buddies are talking about it in pt?)

Valid, tho I'd like to also say SleepyKrew did fairly similar so I'd be willing to yeet either of them.

You are not the only one noticing that. Its extremely frustrating to me that I can’t tell whether the VCs are accurate or not.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Spoiler:

Your good scum core is cakez crew and goat?
That's lackluster

That'd be lackluster if that was my scum core but thankfully it is not.

Milobird
Save the Dragons
Firebringer
Thestatusquo
Wisdom

Truth Innuendos Lies
Sharing the Brain Cell

WhemeStar
Kitty Trauma Team
Dwlee99
Ralts

Alexandrite
The Goat
Gypyx
chowchow
Woolax
SleepyKrew

imaginality

T3
SirCakez

Since then:
Kitty Trauma team has become more town.

Goat has become more scum;
Woolax is a little more scum;
SleepyKrew is more scum.

So my actual scum core is more like:

(locktown at least for D1)
Milobird
Save the Dragons
Firebringer
Thestatusquo
Wisdom

(almost locktown, is strongly town for D1)
Kitty Trauma Team
Sharing the Brain Cell
Truth Innuendos Lies

(various shades of ambivalence)
WhemeStar
Dwlee99
Ralts

(various shades of null)
Alexandrite
chowchow
Gypyx

(south of null by an undefined amount)
Woolax
imaginality
The Goat

(lean scum)
SleepyKrew

(lockscum)
T3
SirCakez

I realize that having only two lockscum isn't ideal and that my townreads aren't as sure as they should be, but I'm overall happy with having the scum

pool

be what it is;
{Woolax, imaginality, Goat, SleepyKrew, T3, SirCakez} is a group that I think should have at least 2 scum in it. Obviously, I'd hope for more, I'd think 2-4 in there total, but there should be a

minimum

of two scum in there.

I'm happy with a scum

pool

of six, with 2 of them being lockscum.

It's not where I'd

prefer

to be on D1, but I'm at least

content

with it.

Can you explain both your T3 and Imaginality reads? I think T3 seems really townie and how is Imaginality different here than in OMB? Wrt Cakez, he’s still totally up in the air for me.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I suddenly have a million questions about her claim and how it would relate to being targeted by my own ability because I'd REALLY hate to have to be the one to NAR that

Well if you were the first/only person to target me, I'd get a copy of your ability.

Granted, I haven't asked about success vs. attempt in terms of targeting me, didn't think of it until now, will do that after submitting this post. The role PM says 'targeting', which implies it doesn't need to succeed in order for me to copy it, but not every mod is as fond of strictly adhering to semantics as I am so the wording of targeting in spite of implying success isn't needed, may still require success, so need to ask about that.

I'm looking at the playerlist and honestly realizing I'd be forcing a read on like 75% of these players if I try to make a readslist
A lot of players are blending together

While I empathize with this as it's true of me, too, I still think Cakez is scum here anyway.

Fixing my broken quote here, but also adding;
I suppose I should point out that, technically speaking, my role specifies that I gain a copy of the first

move

, but I figure that every power this game is probably a move.
(I honestly didn't read the game mechanics at all, like I said, I had completely forgotten I signed up for this game in the first place. I didn't remember until I got my role PM, so. Reading game stuff just wasn't something I had as a priority.)

What does “first move” mean exactly? I was under the impression that your role says you get to copy the role of the first pr who visits you.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

if you keep talking about chowchow maybe being hectic I'm going to pretend I scumread you

I have trained under miltank for many a year for this snark

ah yes not_mafia, the snarky scummer.


VOTE: TIL
lockscum

Nancy is prolly town stop with the TIL votes

every slot is probably town. make an actual argument

yeah I'm gonna add heads talking to each other in here instead of privately as another reason for my very real scumread

wow lucky me

I'm screaming every time someone just declares a read with no explanation. No one fucking cares. Blessings and praise to those of you that are giving reasons

wow lucky me

I'm screaming every time someone just declares a read with no explanation. No one fucking cares. Blessings and praise to those of you that are giving reasons

how about you give some reads instead of just complaining about the others doing so?

I don't have any strong reads and tbh care more about getting to Night than trying our luck voting out scum today. The closest thing to a scumread I have is STD because I vibed with your posts and anti-vibed with his but that's not strong so I'm fine just voting for utility

UNVOTE:
VOTE: STD

shea I danced for you are you going to respond to that

sorry prolly not

damn wish I saw this before I changed my vote

So, he really doesn’t sound like he has conviction in any of these votes and his main motivation seems to be pushing the game into night. It matters who gets elimed D1 and he really doesn’t seem to really care much about that.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Someone explain the brain cell scumcase because they stole that braincell from me.

Also I'd like to add that wisdom is giving scum!pings to me

- Meg

there isn't one, because a) they aren't even pretending to have a reason or b) it's just "lol tone", which is a bit like picking on the weird kid at the party for being weird and being unaware of the latest social calculus. like, thanks. we know. thanks for rubbing it in.

and knowing we get vindicated in the end when we townflip isn't really a comfort when it saps enjoyment out of the fucking game.

on that note...

@Mod: replace us. sorry, and thanks.

You should replace out PRIVATELY.

I’m not really sure Brain is scum or not.

VOTE: SleepyKrew

meh

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

and like looking at the playerlist no one is striking me as obvious scum I just have lots of people sitting in nullworld

imaginality, woolax, chowchow, Whemestar, Ralts, The Goat are all sitting in there

I think Chowchow, Ralts, Wheme are > rand chance of town, in that order. . I think considering Wisdom’s confidence, I probably either want to stay where I currently am or go back to Brain. Not really confident on anyone on this list and really don’t see a particularly compelling reason to vote here. I don’t have a strong read on Alexandrite yet but I don’t see any reason rn to sr them. I don’t think they’re a good wagon for today until they get sorted out more.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I've not changed my vote once in the game; I should be on SirCakez

.

Fixed

VC1.04

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate someone

Gypyx (7):

Alexandrite, Milobird, Ralts, imaginality, chowchow, WhemeStar, Sharing the Brain Cell

Sharing the Brain Cell (4):

Wisdom, Gypyx, T3, Firebringer

Save The Dragons (2):

Woolax, SleepyKrew

Milobird (2):

Kitty Trauma Team, Save The Dragons

Alexandrite (2):

SirCakez, Dwlee99

Firebringer (1):

Thestatusquo

SirCakez (1):

mastina

SleepyKrew (1):

Truth Innuendos Lies

Not Voting:

The Goat

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-10-13 21:30:00)

Mod Notes:
S_S here, finally got a Crystal Clear nuzlocke off the ground and lost 2/3 of my team to Jasmine. Fun game, would recommend.

Prodding Woolax. Searching for a replacement for Sharing the Brain Cell.

It’s interesting Brain replaced out considering thar Gypyx was the lead wagon not them.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I think Chowchow, Ralts, Wheme are > rand chance of town, in that order

can you elaborate on these?

I really like chowchow, for ironically similar reasons as Shea. Gut says they’re town. Ralts’ confidence on Gamma seems pretty townie to me. Wheme sounds really enthusiastic and high energy, so I also think he’s town.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Somehow I don’t think they replaced out because they were the largest wagon, and that goin into this borders on a site rule so drop it!

Sorry? Is it a rule that we are not allowed to speculate on replace outs because I am unaware of it?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

why is alexandrite town

while woolax and goat aren't

all three literally have barely posted

Why are they scum?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Who tf is Kate Bishop?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

not in order

Strong Town:
mastina
Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Thestatusquo
Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
Whemestar

Lean Town:
Dwlee99
T3
Ralts
Gypyx
SirCakez

Null:
The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
SleepyKrew
ssbm/Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous )

Lean Scum:
Firebringer
Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)

Scum:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
imaginality
Woolax (wooper + Micc)
Wisdom

Can you explain your Milo and Wisdom srs?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

wisdom

i don't love his scumreads they're kind of easy. his read on me could be tmi. not sure why brain is his hill he's going to die on, seems like it could be scum that doesn't know when to quit. it's kind of a gut read.

Have you ever played with Wisdom before?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

i explained wisdom in the post before yours

Yeah, saw it but this looks like town!Wisdom to me. Like I can’t be 100% certain but there’s usually something off about him as scum.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

nah

I have lots.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

alexandrite do you have any slots sorted

VOTE: Alexandrite

oop
I have a few reads
you seem a bit more engaged than usual which feels vaguely scum indicative
shea, wissy, ktt, wheme, milo seem town
gypyx I felt was gut scummy early on and I also felt like milo's read was good
TIL I feel like is a bit off-kilter, they seem focused on things that are maybe not that important
bit concerned at cakez pushing us and making a big deal about engaging and then peacing out, and I think he did something like that before, so I'm not inclined to look favorably upon a bad excuse
skrew seems chill, idg why he's SRed

anything else I can't recall having opinions on

-Gamma

@Gamma what is your read on Milo?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

alexandrite do you have any slots sorted

VOTE: Alexandrite

oop
I have a few reads
you seem a bit more engaged than usual which feels vaguely scum indicative
shea, wissy, ktt, wheme, milo seem town
gypyx I felt was gut scummy early on and I also felt like milo's read was good
TIL I feel like is a bit off-kilter, they seem focused on things that are maybe not that important
bit concerned at cakez pushing us and making a big deal about engaging and then peacing out, and I think he did something like that before, so I'm not inclined to look favorably upon a bad excuse
skrew seems chill, idg why he's SRed

anything else I can't recall having opinions on

-Gamma

@Gamma what is your read on Milo?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Bell, why aren’t you obvtown to me yet?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Do you have meta with ssbm out of curiosity?

I know this wasn’t addressed to me but she was also in OMB and also green.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

really feeling good about my STD townread. Feels very involved in thread. Not just trying to skate by under radar like i think his scum would be. Plus love the sarcastic quips.

Yeah, what is your take on Milo?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

Kyouku knows this is my towngame here. I’m good with this vote.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

noo you were on a good angle asking people about Milobird but you got distracted

Milo could be scum because Bell!town is so super obvious and I’m not seeing that for some reason but Kyouku recently played with me in OMB and now she has our slot as nullscum, when I’m playing exactly the same way here. I couldn’t tell with Brain but no way in hell do I believe Kyouku actually srs me here.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

for reference. Who shouldn't know this is ur town game

Anyone who’s never played with me I suppose but I’m playing here pretty much identically to OMB, so I believe Kyouku’s sr on us is bullshit.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

ok then do it

Also scum

Because I told TIL to solve the game? Lol

This same exact thing happened to me in a newbie game recently. Scum repped out. Og head tr me and replacement head hard sr me.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Ssbm is town still

Fire seems to have forgotten Annie against the world in tenet

No because I am playing identically to OMB and she puts me as nullscum.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Ssbm is town still

Fire seems to have forgotten Annie against the world in tenet

No because I am playing identically to OMB and she puts me as nullscum.

~I

This is OMGUS, stop focusing on how everyone else is reading you and look at other venues

bull fucking shit! OMGUS my ass! Why am I not voting/sr Shea or Ralts then?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

So are both of our heads

That make you scum, Wisdom?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=400

I would really like to get Gamma’s take on this.

Wisdom is town but I’m definitely having doubts about you. Your reaction to my sr on Kyouku is over the top. I refuse to be discredited like that.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

Yeah this worked for you in Chrono trigger real well lmao

Wut

Only game I played with you was OMB.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I never played that game, are you trying to open wolf now?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

What if i told all of u. I am cop checking Milo tonight :O

(who would honestly believe it)

K, I didn’t want to out this but I am informed of a gf in this game.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

So are both of our heads

That make you scum, Wisdom?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=400

I would really like to get Gamma’s take on this.

Wisdom is town but I’m definitely having doubts about you. Your reaction to my sr on Kyouku is over the top. I refuse to be discredited like that.

~I

Bell was in a scum hydra in the game I linked. Gamma was also in that game which is why I want his take on that.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

noo you were on a good angle asking people about Milobird but you got distracted

Milo could be scum because Bell!town is so super obvious and I’m not seeing that for some reason but Kyouku recently played with me in OMB and now she has our slot as nullscum, when I’m playing exactly the same way here. I couldn’t tell with Brain but no way in hell do I believe Kyouku actually srs me here.

~I

I feel like there's some selective memory here if you're going to say I should know this is your towngame based on OMB. I did the same thing in Chrono Trigger Chronicles shortly after OMB, and you accused me of being scum for the same reason you are now, and we were both town.

I wasn’t in that game. Only game I played with you was OMB.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

And I didn’t discredit you Nancy, stop being dramatic. (And that means a measured response to this as well). I pointed out that you are scumreading someone for not locktowning you off of one game of meta, when there’s zero incentive for scum not to do that??? And completely ignoring Wisdom trying to pocket you.

I really dislike that you’re trying so hard to discredit me.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Nancy I looked at chrono and I think shes talking about Marashu

Oh, well she should know that she’s talking to me and all posts since she replaced Brain have been mine.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

Yeah this worked for you in Chrono trigger real well lmao

Wut

Only game I played with you was OMB.

~I

Arent you Nancy Drew? From the Angel Warriors hydra with Momrangal in Chrono Trigger?

I think I'm mixing you and Noraa up

Very possibly.

Only game we played together was OMB and my play here is the same, so how do you have me as nullscum?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

If you can't tell off that quote I think you're town being pocketed and trying to help you see the light I have nothing for you. I've been actively trying to get you to look at the game through a new lens and you are treating it as a discredit.

ninja-
ssbm is town you're welcome to try and wagon me over it, Bell and I eat scum like you for breakfast

Are you seriously calling ME scum? Good luck with that.

First you say STD is lying, now I’m scum? I can’t wait to hear your reasoning.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

ssbmslot is still more likely scum, you might just be antagonistic for whatever reason and i dont think youre scum together either

I’m actually more inclined to sr Milo. There reaction is ridiculously over the top.

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

ssbmslot is still more likely scum, you might just be antagonistic for whatever reason and i dont think youre scum together either

Which you still have yet to quantify, besides citing "not realizing nancy is obvtown off one game of meta"

ninja-
For fucks sake nancy stop being obstinate. I'm saying you are town and Wisdom is pocketing you, and you keep sinking lower in the pocket.

Okay, why is Wisdom scum?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

UNVOTE:

for now.

I have played alot of games with Wisdom. How do you know he isn’t just reading me correctly?

~I

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You yourself said you find Wisdom's scumcatching abilities above average- is it really that strange that I have an issue with him pushing an easy slot with no reasoning prior to page 52 of the game despite having been on the wagon for like 20/30 pages?

He doesn’t usually provide much reasoning if I remember correctly. But this reads like Wisdom!town to me.

He’s slightly off or weird as scum.

~I

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UNVOTE:

for now.

I have played alot of games with Wisdom. How do you know he isn’t just reading me correctly?

~I

I'm not locktowning you but I'm townreading you too, so I don't really get your point here? What does this have to do with pocketing? He's literally just taking your point and shoving it as his own and has yet to do any other form of reasoning around the brain/ssbm wagon. He's accusing me of trying to tear apart town when I'd argue I've been one of the most proactive in the game at engaging multiple people? As well as trying to line stuff up to push us tomorrow for defending ssbm.

ninja-
And you know I defend mine too, so miss me with that shit.

Alright, maybe you’re town then. Your fire sounds like town!Bell.

~I

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He’s slightly off or weird as scum.

~I

Can you quantify this more? This doesn't really say anything.

You have to play a lot of games with Wisdom to understand this because it’s extremely subtle but so far I’m not picking that up from him.

It’s a tone thing.

~I

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Bell is signing I am not is the easiest way to tell

Well, I have no meta on scum!you, I only have meta on Bell as both alignments.

~I

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Spoiler:

~ chowchow

I <3 this slot. I can’t wait until they make a readslist.

~I

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Spoiler:

imaginality

pops in thread looking to post just to post:

As the person who started brain celll wagon I like the gypyx wagon more

Why?

I wanted to see if WhemeStar was just jumping on the wagon for no good reason.

His answer that he sees the wagon as townier than other ones seems reasonable.

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

This is a bad reason for calling ssbm scum because without a contrasting scum game to compare with, how can she know whether you playing like OMB is a town tell or NAI?

That said my sense is you're both town.


I think this is a really good catch:

On the other hand the Gypyx wagon gives off terrible vibes and feels like it fucking sucks, with scum latching onto it.

When I'm in a better mindset (hella tired right now, just reading to stay caught up, not really capable of good critical thinking), will be able to give that better thought.

This is an interesting callout; the only person you have south of null voting that is currently voting for Gypyx is imaginality vs. 3 who are voting for Brain Cell.

VOTE: mastina

Why didn't the Brain Cell wagon give you scum vibes when more of your scum reads are (or were, I'm not sure the current vote count) on that?

I’m not sure whether she is or not but I think it’s a perfectly valid reason if you’re pretty much playing identically in two games where you flipped town and they’re sr you in the other.

I don’t see why this doesn’t just make Mastina wrong instead of scum?

~I

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Kyo pocket me?

Spoiler:

Pocket rhymes with rocket, you're scumclaiming buddy

/s

Why'd you out my traitor claim? :O

Wisdom votes don't make sense to me

Why?

What are you seeing differently?

I gut townread his early stuff

Which in particular? What do you think of his play as the games gone on?

@Nancy, I don’t really have a way to address your concerns if you aren’t specific. Purely looking at what’s in front of me, I’m thinking he’s scum. Bell was last night as wel, but I want to check in with him before we officially move over.

Ninja- your only experience with me is like maybe 3 hours of actual game time. Most players here don’t really have a full handle on my meta but I’m not really concerned about that, I think my ISO speaks for itself.

I don’t know how to explain it better than I have, sorry, :/

~I

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Spoiler:

~ chowchow

I wish I could adopt this.

~I

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I wish youd revote scum and not listen to ns

Can you tell me why you’re so convinced she’s scum?

~I

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Spoiler:

I have not been miselimed once post hiatus. Same for bell sans supersaint

don't like this
feels like a cheap way to dissuade SRs

ok then do it

Also scum

Because I told TIL to solve the game? Lol

Yeah, it looks like a taunt: "catch me if you can" vibes

uhhhhhhh no
why would I even post that as scum?

You yourself said you find Wisdom's scumcatching abilities above average- is it really that strange that I have an issue with him pushing an easy slot with no reasoning prior to page 52 of the game despite having been on the wagon for like 20/30 pages?

He doesn’t usually provide much reasoning if I remember correctly. But this reads like Wisdom!town to me.

He’s slightly off or weird as scum.

~I

I concur with this albeit with the caveat I don't distinctly remember any Wis scumgames but I did just play with him as town in Lemon Demon

Wisdom does have superior reads but he’s not infallible. Kyouku could still be scum here but we both deathtunnelled each other in OMB so I want to wait to hear more from her.

~I

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Spoiler:

imaginality

pops in thread looking to post just to post:

As the person who started brain celll wagon I like the gypyx wagon more

Why?

I wanted to see if WhemeStar was just jumping on the wagon for no good reason.

His answer that he sees the wagon as townier than other ones seems reasonable.

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

This is a bad reason for calling ssbm scum because without a contrasting scum game to compare with, how can she know whether you playing like OMB is a town tell or NAI?

That said my sense is you're both town.


I think this is a really good catch:

On the other hand the Gypyx wagon gives off terrible vibes and feels like it fucking sucks, with scum latching onto it.

When I'm in a better mindset (hella tired right now, just reading to stay caught up, not really capable of good critical thinking), will be able to give that better thought.

This is an interesting callout; the only person you have south of null voting that is currently voting for Gypyx is imaginality vs. 3 who are voting for Brain Cell.

VOTE: mastina

Why didn't the Brain Cell wagon give you scum vibes when more of your scum reads are (or were, I'm not sure the current vote count) on that?

I’m not sure whether she is or not but I think it’s a perfectly valid reason if you’re pretty much playing identically in two games where you flipped town and they’re sr you in the other.

I don’t see why this doesn’t just make Mastina wrong instead of scum?

~I

Imaginality, can you please address this? Thanks.

~I

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Kyouku can you link any of your scumgames for me? Imaginality, same question. Thanks.

~I

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Spoiler:

imaginality

pops in thread looking to post just to post:

As the person who started brain celll wagon I like the gypyx wagon more

Why?

I wanted to see if WhemeStar was just jumping on the wagon for no good reason.

His answer that he sees the wagon as townier than other ones seems reasonable.

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

This is a bad reason for calling ssbm scum because without a contrasting scum game to compare with, how can she know whether you playing like OMB is a town tell or NAI?

That said my sense is you're both town.


I think this is a really good catch:

On the other hand the Gypyx wagon gives off terrible vibes and feels like it fucking sucks, with scum latching onto it.

When I'm in a better mindset (hella tired right now, just reading to stay caught up, not really capable of good critical thinking), will be able to give that better thought.

This is an interesting callout; the only person you have south of null voting that is currently voting for Gypyx is imaginality vs. 3 who are voting for Brain Cell.

VOTE: mastina

Why didn't the Brain Cell wagon give you scum vibes when more of your scum reads are (or were, I'm not sure the current vote count) on that?

I’m not sure whether she is or not but I think it’s a perfectly valid reason if you’re pretty much playing identically in two games where you flipped town and they’re sr you in the other.

I don’t see why this doesn’t just make Mastina wrong instead of scum?

~I

Spoiler:

imaginality

pops in thread looking to post just to post:

As the person who started brain celll wagon I like the gypyx wagon more

Why?

I wanted to see if WhemeStar was just jumping on the wagon for no good reason.

His answer that he sees the wagon as townier than other ones seems reasonable.

Top of page 26, so halfway there.

Townread: Milobird, TSQ
Townlean: Save The Dragons,
Nulltown: Wisdom, imaginality, Whemestar, SK, firebringer
Null: T3, Alexandrite, The Goat (not sure if this one has posted), mastina, KTT, ralts
Nullscum: Dwlee99, TIL
Scumlean: chowchow, Gypyx, sirCakez
Scumread: Woolax

VOTE: Kyouku

There is no freaking way you sr me after OMB.

Thanks for scumclaiming.

~I

This is a bad reason for calling ssbm scum because without a contrasting scum game to compare with, how can she know whether you playing like OMB is a town tell or NAI?

That said my sense is you're both town.


I think this is a really good catch:

On the other hand the Gypyx wagon gives off terrible vibes and feels like it fucking sucks, with scum latching onto it.

When I'm in a better mindset (hella tired right now, just reading to stay caught up, not really capable of good critical thinking), will be able to give that better thought.

This is an interesting callout; the only person you have south of null voting that is currently voting for Gypyx is imaginality vs. 3 who are voting for Brain Cell.

VOTE: mastina

Why didn't the Brain Cell wagon give you scum vibes when more of your scum reads are (or were, I'm not sure the current vote count) on that?

I’m not sure whether she is or not but I think it’s a perfectly valid reason if you’re pretty much playing identically in two games where you flipped town and they’re sr you in the other.

I don’t see why this doesn’t just make Mastina wrong instead of scum?

~I

Imaginality, can you please address this? Thanks.
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~I

My point about the games was not about mastina. That was saying that if ssbm only had one game with you, that's not enough for you to reasonably expect her to lock town you based on meta. Because she may not know how your scum play looks compared with your town play, so "I'm playing similar to how I did as town" holds little weight.

My point about mastina was echoing the other post that there's something off about calling a wagon scummy right around when she posted her reads and most of her scum reads were on a different wagon.

I wasn’t expecting her to locktown me but it didn’t make any sense to me that she would nullscum read me for playing identically here to OMB, so disqgree. It’s totally valid, doesn’t mean it’s a lock though.

Yes, I get it, she made an error in judgement. I’m asking you why she can’t be wrong town from that instead of scum?

Scum is usually a lot more careful to have all of their ducks in a row. In CoD, I wrongly briefly sr Amy for such a similar type of contradiction. My point is why does that make her scum?

~I

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Kyouku can you link any of your scumgames for me? Imaginality, same question. Thanks.

~I

Since I started playing again a couple of months ago my only scum game has been [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=87408] Open 823

And I was town in OMB. And have one game ongoing and that's it.

If you want to see games from like 10 years ago they're still linked in my wiki[/quote]

Your scumgame doesn’t sound much different than your towngame. Why should I tr you here?

~I

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This is a fair benchmark for large themes. They are the worst.

- w

Duckling, any reads so far?

~I

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I think woolax makes sense as a ssbm buddy too
That entrance vote was pretty weak and I dont see why ssbm votes there before reading the game
It does make sense if she used it for distancing though

Im going with {ssbm, imaginality, woolax} so far

Woolax could be scum. In BTDT, Duckling was inactive and let his scum hydra partner do all of the posting. Town!duckling would be eager to solve.

VOTE: Woolax

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this is not content I am enthused to interact with!!!

- w

I want to tr you, just throw me a bone.

~I

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Read the first four 4 pages so far - I wanna townread Shea and I want him to pat Mirri for me. I can see micc likes the STD wagon but I don't know why it's happening yet. You've got about 2% of Wooper rn.

- w

What do you mean you “want to tr Shea? Either you do or you don’t. STD wagon is seriously bad. Town shouldn’t be on it.

~I

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this is not content I am enthused to interact with!!!

- w

I want to tr you, just throw me a bone.

~I

this is kinda a non offer ftr I have no boens... i'm an axolotl....

Woolax, did you get a red role pm?

~I

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Read the first four 4 pages so far - I wanna townread Shea and I want him to pat Mirri for me. I can see micc likes the STD wagon but I don't know why it's happening yet. You've got about 2% of Wooper rn.

- w

What do you mean you “want to tr Shea? Either you do or you don’t. STD wagon is seriously bad. Town shouldn’t be on it.

~I

I liek Shea's first few posts & he has my shiny vanity pg4 towntead.

y are u tosnreading STD?

He has plenty’s of reads, content and conviction, why aren’t you tr him?

~I

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@Kyouko, I was in Chrono Trigger Chronicles, and I ended up SR'ing you after a catch-up, and that vote was immediately followed by a flash-elimination.

-M

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@Wisdom is kyouko is town do you think imaginality is still scum?

-M

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@Shea: Yes, the prior has shifted significantly, and can be noted by a study of her games from the past year.

Damnit, I had a spicy scumread yesterday, which I can't recall today.

-Lies

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Townie town townies:
Milobird
Mastina
Save The Dragons
Thestatusquo
Alexandrite
Firebringer

Not today satan:
Dwlee
Wisdom
TIL (will trust mastina on this)

Gah that's barely half the playerlist counting myself. Looking at playerlist to see if I'm forgetting anyone... Ok yeah no I didnt forget anyone... Now my ISO...

Yeah, no problems there. Any townie town townies have strong objections to eliminating anyone that is not in my town/not for toDay pile?

Scumreads on Cakez, woolax

I don’t like this. I’m playing identically to OMB, it should be beyond obvious to anyone in that game I’m town here.

~I

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still don't really think Alexandrite is townie

I don't like how Gamma was like "hey I ADDRESSED your scumread therefore you can no longer vote us"

Nothing they’ve done has pinged me in either direction. I don’t want to yeet a null read.

~I

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Townie town townies:
Milobird
Mastina
Save The Dragons
Thestatusquo
Alexandrite
Firebringer

Not today satan:
Dwlee
Wisdom
TIL (will trust mastina on this)

Gah that's barely half the playerlist counting myself. Looking at playerlist to see if I'm forgetting anyone... Ok yeah no I didnt forget anyone... Now my ISO...

Yeah, no problems there. Any townie town townies have strong objections to eliminating anyone that is not in my town/not for toDay pile?

Scumreads on Cakez, woolax

I don’t like this. I’m playing identically to OMB, it should be beyond obvious to anyone in that game I’m town here.

~I

agreed

Also her post reads disingenuous to me. If she really trusts Mastina who has my slot at “permanent locktown”, then having our slot as a no yeet today doesn’t sound like she’s trusting Mastina at all, so I find that to be incongruous. Either she’s trusting Mastina’s read on me or she isn’t. This readslist looks like she intends to push me tomorrow while blatantly pocketing Mastina. If Woolax’s entrance wasn’t so abysmal, I’d totally consider switching back to Kyouku.

~I

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Well mastina and you both seem to be playing eerily similar to OMB and mastina was right on you there, so I'm going to listen this time as it would've worked out better last time if I'd listened. From the get go.

As for Gamma, I think when he's forcing things he has a tell, so this is uninformed Gamma. There's no 3P either so uninformed=town

Yes but you don’t claim to tr us, you only have us as a no yeet today. Hence my obvious confusion.

~I

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I AM CAUGHT UP
gonna be making multiple posts, this one is primarily addressed at STD and Shea

good for you

push me

I really liked these posts. Not in a townread way but in a they really amused me way. Almost as amusing as Nancy saying she can't wait for a chowchow readlist being followed by chowchow voting Bell.

ok on to game stuff
I'm not gonna push STD immediately because I want to talk with both him and Shea first (at this point I'm confbias townreading Shea for every post he makes oops).
@STD why did you move me from your scum pile to your null pile?
@STD I'm feeling the same way about imaginality that you are. But it also feels like the kind of thing a townie could do and then get easily jumped on for. So do you have any reassuring words for me that he is scum and not a poor townie getting pounced on by meanies like us?

a little teaser: searched my name and I think I'm gonna be properly pushing STD unless the Gypyx wagon really speaks to me

What did you think of STDs interaction with my reads list?

tbh I only focused on the part about myself but I really didn't like what I saw from him. However I've vibed more with his posting since then which is why I'm not jumping to it immediately. I kind of want to talk this out in real time with you after I hear back from STD, if you're cool with that.
also @Shea Do you still feel strongly about Firebringer scum?

My glee at the prospect of a chowchow readslist list has nothing to do with the Bell vote, I just want to see more meming from them. It’s probably my favourite thing about this game - their posts.

~I

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OMG MY POKEMON IS SO CUTE


ALSO I READ THREAD B4 CHOSING TO REPLACE IN AND KYOUKO IS TOWN

Hey <3

Why is she town?

~I

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kyouko is qt when she's town :oops;

???

~I

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wonder what sleepy will do now that shea is gone.

What are you talking about? Shea is right here with the Maya Fey avatar

I will say that for my own role, it'd be basically impossible for someone that knows my flavor to guess my mechanics

I don’t recall you being in that game?

~I

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Sigh.

Woolax or Wheme are also fine wagons.

I think Wheme could be town but I definitely agree on Woolax. I’d be legit shocked if thar slot is town.

~I

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TSQ continues to have the most puzzling rep outs.

-Bell

He does this often?

~I

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VOTE: alexandrite
Gamma is scum my af

Based on what?

Why don’t people want to vote flaming obvscum, which is where my vote currently is.

~I

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=36164

Anyone seriously tr this?

~I

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fee fi fo fum
let's lim Gamma scum

-Lies

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Woolax is few posts and low energy for hydra so chow votes based on the stats of scum hydras doing this sometimes

Woolax doesn't lurk as scum IIRC.

-Lies

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Woolax doesn't lurk as scum IIRC.

I mean Wooper.

-Liar

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Town:
TSQ(DrKoba)
Sharing the Brain Cell
Ralts

Townish:
SleepyKrew
T3

Null in a no pings but not a strong town read way:
Firebringer
Kitty Trauma Team
chowchow
Save the Dragons

Null but a tad more dubious than the other bunch of nulls:
Alexandrite
Wisdom
WhemeStar
The Goat
Woolax

Scummy:
Milobird
Dwlee99
Gypyx
SirCakez
mastina

You missed us

-Lies

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I'm done carrying dead weight this game. I'm switching to my main.

Yume's known to lurk out / not play as scum, right?

-Liar

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because I'm not inclined to trust you pushing me after PYP

My slot locktown (thanks Nancy!)

-Lies

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I'd like if you'd actually address my concern, Auro

I'm not really worried about your concern apart from that it's probably not worth your time?

-Lies

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Woolax is few posts and low energy for hydra so chow votes based on the stats of scum hydras doing this sometimes

Woolax doesn't lurk as scum IIRC.

-Lies

No! Woolax is 99.9999% flipping scum here. We are not unvoting that slot ever.

And have you forgotten BTDT? He lurked out and let his hydra buddy Xtoxm take over.
~T

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I'm done carrying dead weight this game. I'm switching to my main.

Yume's known to lurk out / not play as scum, right?

-Liar

It’s NAI.

~I

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mad gamma scum gamma

VOTE: Alexandritegamma

Bad STD, vote Woolax. They’re lockscum. I posted their garbage dumpster fire of an ISO. Why am I getting so much resistance to this?

~I

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Sigh.

Woolax or Wheme are also fine wagons.

I think Wheme could be town but I definitely agree on Woolax. I’d be legit shocked if thar slot is town.

~I

VOTE: alexandrite
Gamma is scum my af

Based on what?

Why don’t people want to vote flaming obvscum, which is where my vote currently is.

~I

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=36164

Anyone seriously tr this?

~I

you think woolax is scum that is coasting along for the TvT ride

Woolax voted STD
The reason I voted him was because I completely disagreed with that vote and thought it was opportunistic since it was obvious Shea/STD was tvt to me

VOTE: woolax

whatever

Alexandrite wagon sucks

Stop counterwagoning and vote Woolax

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but i can go back to woolax VOTE: woolax

I know Duckling and he froze because he knows I caught him. Plus that ISO is hot garbage. I think Alexandrite is town because Gamma seems as genuine af to me but at any rate whenever you have flaming obvscum in a game, it’s foolish to vote elsewhere.

I know how Duckling plays town and this isn’t it. I initially liked Micc’s post but on reread, it’s just noise.

~I

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You know when you call everyone lock(alignment) you lose the effect with the hyperbole

I’m not saying they’re town. Just to stop calling them lock lol

I never said Alexandrite was locktown, I’m saying Woolax is almost certainly lockscum from that dumpster fire of an ISO. I don’t believe I’ve called anyone that so far in this game. You must have my posts mixed up with Mastina’s.

~I

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ght of

I really like Kkobas entrance. Most people are pretty null for me though Ill probably just sheep onto woolax and see how he flips to see where I go

+1

Yeah, I think Koba’s probably town too, which isn’t a surprise since I also tr their predecessor which is why I’m reacessing Kyouku.

I am rarely this confident about srs, so when I am, I’m usually right. I was on scum!Bell in Happy Face, scum!Kitty in OMB and I’m equally as confident in scum!Woolax.

~I

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ght of

I really like Kkobas entrance. Most people are pretty null for me though Ill probably just sheep onto woolax and see how he flips to see where I go

+1

Yeah, I think Koba’s probably town too, which isn’t a surprise since I also tr their predecessor which is why I’m reacessing Kyouku.

I am rarely this confident about srs, so when I am, I’m usually right. I was on scum!Bell in Happy Face, scum!Kitty in OMB and I’m equally as confident in scum!Woolax.

~I

I forgot scum!Daenarys, in CoD, which I also got right.

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Read the first four 4 pages so far - I wanna townread Shea and I want him to pat Mirri for me. I can see micc likes the STD wagon but I don't know why it's happening yet. You've got about 2% of Wooper rn.

- w

What do you mean you “want to tr Shea? Either you do or you don’t. STD wagon is seriously bad. Town shouldn’t be on it.

~I

I liek Shea's first few posts & he has my shiny vanity pg4 towntead.

y are u tosnreading STD?

He has plenty’s of reads, content and conviction, why aren’t you tr him?

~I

I'll get back 2 u after I've read them

ok I'm not actually gonna shitpost and lurk thru but I'm unlikely to be around much til next week. sorry my energy levels are not on point. I'll solve the game and save the day when I can x

- Wooper wooper

Wagon on someone not playing is iconic, love this for me
be back when I can

- w

In Happy Face, Penguin did essentially nothing but it was enough for me to think he might be town. You have given us nothing so far.

~I

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Woolax is few posts and low energy for hydra so chow votes based on the stats of scum hydras doing this sometimes

Woolax doesn't lurk as scum IIRC.

-Lies

No! Woolax is 99.9999% flipping scum here. We are not unvoting that slot ever.

And have you forgotten BTDT? He lurked out and let his hydra buddy Xtoxm take over.
~T

How good is your meta?
On a scale of 0- my kyouko meta [100%]

I’d trust you on Kyouku > me but I think if tw was town he would have said/done something town indicative already. The last towngame I played with him, he was extremely active and solvey. I should probably link Starcraft 1, he didn’t lurk there but he made crap excuses for trying to push my slot.

I think he got a red role pm and is hoping to stall the game by making excuses. When I told him, their STD vote was bad, he hardly seemed to be even interested. He is not trying to solve, ergo: he is scum.

~I

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Gamma bamma. That post explains a lot.
I kind of can’t see any lies or misrepresentations in there.

So it’s honest, but hard to see which alignment it comes from.

You should ISO Gamma in OMB. He seemed very watered down and fake in that.

I also agree with Gamma about Wisdom.

@mod, can we get a VC please?

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Woolax (12): Truth Innuendos Lies, Save The Dragons, ssbm_kyouko, Wisdom, Firebringer, chowchow, Imaginality, SirCakez, SleepyKrew, Gamma, wheme, T3

Wheme was hammer, T3 is overkill if I missed a moved vote somewhere

Thanks.

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VOTE: Alexandritegamma

I do think that slot has a decent chance of being scum so add them as #6 on my list of will-vote.

I really think Gamma’s > rand chance of being town here.

~I

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Woolax (12): Truth Innuendos Lies, Save The Dragons, ssbm_kyouko, Wisdom, Firebringer, chowchow, Imaginality, SirCakez, SleepyKrew, Gamma, wheme, T3
Wheme was hammer, T3 is overkill if I missed a moved vote somewhere

Let's add another for good measure.
VOTE: Woolax
L+2.

Where tf are the mods? Hasn’t this slot been like quadruple hammered already?

How do we prod the mods? This is frustrating.

~I

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Still think Gamma's town

+1

~I

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I modded a game with town!wisdom and they feel jarringly different from there.

One game meta isn't meta
Read my wiki

if you're town i just bought you a day so either way we vibing rn bc you were fearkilled for whatever reason

So you don’t sr Gamma then? *confused*

Also since it's no longer relevant - i intentionally wanted to make gamma look viable so we dont just have 1 consensus wagon and maybe have scum think they have a chance of counterwagon.

I also think Wheme has a > rand chance of being town but a bit more confident on Gamma.

My favourite vote on Woolax was chowchow’s.

~I

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Be well best friend! (@Mod)

I wonder if Woolax not posting means they're scum. They said they were busy I recall.

-Bell

They’re ellitelling, so make of that what you will.

~I

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Be well best friend! (@Mod)

I wonder if Woolax not posting means they're scum. They said they were busy I recall.

-Bell

They’re ellitelling, so make of that what you will.

~I

I mean Duckling specifically.

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What's your crazy job?

Does ellitelling mean being active in other games?
wonder where Micc went

Yes.

~I

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also while you're here can you explain this

wonder what sleepy will do now that shea is gone.

What are you talking about? Shea is right here with the Maya Fey avatar

I will say that for my own role, it'd be basically impossible for someone that knows my flavor to guess my mechanics

I don’t recall you being in that game?

~I

Mia and Maya Fey was a Koba/me hydra and we only hydra’d in Town Stumps.

~I

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also while you're here can you explain this

wonder what sleepy will do now that shea is gone.

What are you talking about? Shea is right here with the Maya Fey avatar

I will say that for my own role, it'd be basically impossible for someone that knows my flavor to guess my mechanics

I don’t recall you being in that game?

~I

Mia and Maya Fey was a Koba/me hydra and we only hydra’d in Town Stumps.

~I

oh
they are characters from Ace Attorney
Koba's avi is Maya

Oh.

I actually didn’t know that.

~I

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We can just act like he flipped red and hunt his buddies

Based off of the way they played, I don’t know if we’ll get much in the way of associatives.

Other than STD looks like spewed town. So, scum was likely on that wagon.

~I

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You know, I think i agree with Nancy's Gamma take. they do tend to be more honest as town.

-Bell

No, it’s emotional range is the tell, not honestly. Gamma was completely transparent as scum in BTDT and got speedlimmed because of it. He basically described the actions of a blatantly antitown role accurately.

~I

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Woolax give us your reads list.
No reason not to if you're town.

I see that hasn’t happened. This is probably the longest twilight in my history of playing mafia.

~I

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OMG DWLEE IS MAFIA

Why?

~I

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We can just act like he flipped red and hunt his buddies

Based off of the way they played, I don’t know if we’ll get much in the way of associatives.

Other than STD looks like spewed town. So, scum was likely on that wagon.

~I

Maybe the people who tried to counterwagon Gamma?

Possibly?

~I

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What’s everyone’s favorite Pokémon?

Mine is Charmander. I even have a Charmander alt on MU.

I want the flip

+1

What’s everyone’s favorite Pokémon?

Alolan Vulpix

What does spewed town mean

It means that since Woolax was voteparked on STD, it’s extremely unlikely to be SvS.

~I

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OMG DWLEE IS MAFIA

Why?

~I

bc i said so fk u

Hey, that’s not very nice.

But seriously, tell me why you think so.

~I

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I'm sorry for relative inactivity over the weekend. S_S is out of town for the weekend and I'm dealing with a funeral at the moment so please be patient. If this interferes extensively with the game I will be happy to extend D1.

I'd be fine with an extended N1 until your life calms down (since I don't think extending D1 is the solution for uh... reasons)

+1

Woolax has already been hammered.

@mod

Condolences.