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I wanna be the very best like no one ever was

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Milobird locktown

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Fire bringer town

Ez game

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I wanna be the very best like no one ever was

your avatar looks like a pokemon

Master splinter is not a pokemon :<

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I'm just literally town blocking anyone who sings with me

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I wanna be the very best like no one ever was

your avatar looks like a pokemon

Master splinter is not a pokemon :<

ohhh the ferret from tmnt
makes sense

VOTE: t3 throw away the key

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I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide

Each pokemon to understand the power that's insiiiiiiide

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is she a normal type

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also does anyone want to hydra with me

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Spoiler: The Crew (Notty/Bell/STD Hydra)

fuck yeah
~std

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team rocket has fake claims according to the OP

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I'm just literally town blocking anyone who sings with me

wait
So you're a dragon and a ferret at the same time
What pokemon are those again

omg he's not a ferret

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

haven't you ever seen full metal alchemist before?

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i have rockruff socks

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everyone in this game is all sock no action

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i have rockruff socks

show plz

VOTE: dwlee

Spoiler:

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don't you

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this fb wagon is dumb

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seems random

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do we need to piratize our avatars

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seems random

Every wagon so far has been random tho, why call out this one

what other wagon

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invincible was only okay

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seems random

Every wagon so far has been random tho, why call out this one

what other wagon

Think there were wagons on dwlee and cakez

i think you already received your answer

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STD am i missing a good wagon here or something.

no i don't care if you wanna vote yourself it's still dumb

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wow

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i think you already received your answer

Uhhh I don't get it

you said every wagon was random

i said what other wagons implying i don't know the existence of other random wagons therefore why would i call out another wagon

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VOTE: milobird

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it is because of the bell head

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way ahead of you

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what do you mean

look at all the reactions i got for posting that random off the cuff thought

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what do you mean

look at all the reactions i got for posting that random off the cuff thought

Calling bullshit on that being a premeditated attempt at getting reactions.

i'm not saying it was, i'm just saying look what happened

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ok i don't get it

you yourself admit the wagon is dumb

me calling it out as such is just me being honest about an objectively dumb wagon

pedit

i wanted to call out this wagon as specifically dumb because it's what i saw, there's no special motive or anything. just because wagons that are dumb happen doesn't mean i'm not allowed to call it out as such

pedit

holy shit what am i lying about

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can i vote for bell only

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ok you found me

it's not possible for town to call out a wagon as dumb

you're right shea

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How is the wagon on firebringer more objectively dumb than a couple people saying they were going to policy sirCakez?

asked and answered with ralts, i didn't realize there was a wagon there.

and it's not mutually exclusive. i can think both are bad and might only post about one. c'mon dude

And I don't believe that you don't have a purpose when you make posts generally speaking.

what's the scum motivation behind calling a wagon bad

It's not that you aren't allowed to call things out as dumb, it speaks to me to your mindset when you're reading the thread. It's like, a very surface level thing to call out, because you know its SUPPOSED to be dumb. So it looks to me like you're trying to sort of insert yourself into a pseudo serious discussion while actually saying literally nothing of consequence. It looks like you're talking about the game but you're actually not. I don't see a lot of town players feel the need to comment on how things in RVS are dumb, because they're too busy doing dumb things in RVS and they know it doesn't matter.

how is me disavowing the FB wagon not a dumb thing i'm doing in RVS

It's like simultaneously hyper aware of gamestate but not aware of the normal flow of a mafia game at the same time.

why do you think i'm not aware of the normal flow of a mafia game

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ok you found me

it's not possible for town to call out a wagon as dumb

you're right shea

And honestly this reaction is really bad. The whole sarcastic dismissal thing doesn't match what I've seen from town you in other games.

citation needed

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1) first quote: so? do you usually call out all dumb 3 person wagons you become aware of on page 9 of a large?

no

i post what i feel as town and edit myself as scum

guess which one this was

2) second quote: ok but you're missing my point which is that people generally don't do this because they know its fluff and they are looking to find actual things to talk about which might create meaningful information for them to solve other players alignment which brings me to

since when do i do what people generally do or don't do

3) third quote: I don't see you doing that here. It's less a scum motivation thing and more of a scum mindset thing. Scum frequently have a hard time doing the whole trying to solve players thing because they already know the alignment of their partners, so they find ways to talk about the game which don't have actual consequence. they want to look like they're scum hunting or trying to divine alignment, but they're not. Your statement was that. It was the exact kind of statement scum makes when they're trying to look like they're making game relevant observations which under closer scrutiny are actually just meaningless fluff.

isn't it weird how i ended up voting one of the wagoners tho :thinking emoji:

And that brings me to the snarky citation needed post. The town std I'm familiar with would be attempting to solve me through this discussion. you're not. you're attempting to shade my arguments and try to make them look ridiculous. every single response you've made has been a slight misinterpretation of what I'm saying to make it look slightly worse than it actually is. I don't get the impression at all that you're curious about my alignment here, and given that my meta as scum definitely includes making aggressive d1 pushes (side eye: fb for townbinning me when he should know that about my scum game. potential pocket attempt?) one would think you would be.

i think you may not have an updated meta

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no

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why do you think i'm voting bell

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it wasn't but i didn't necessarily like the fact fb was getting votes for no reason (which i made evident by saying something about it)

sircakez and bell felt necessary to take potshots at me without really explaining why which i found odd

bell says i'm lying about something which is pretty wtf and looks like he just threw in a reason to scumread me out of nowhere

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look i'm not trying to claim i'm some mastermind that threw a rock in the sea and had all these fish swim into my net

but i say whatever the hell's on my mind sometimes for the hell of it

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and i'm definitely trying to read you

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i think town he could have ignored bell's "STD's lying" post and not pointed out his scum meta and stuff

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how should i have answered you

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do YOU think i was treating you as townie

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i did

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i think that some of my posts were made pretty agnostic to your alignment? i'm not sure where you're getting "the tone is exactly the same"

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sigh

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i sure calmed down a little after getting attacked by a bunch of people for one errant comment i made about the gamestate

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sigh

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we were scum together once in shea's game

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this STD wagon is dumb

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Im gonna full claim

I am mareep. I pick a target to sheep and when I do I become a double voter when I am sheeping that person

is this for real

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VOTE: std

~ chowchow

ed...ward...

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VOTE: Whemestar

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wheme will you answer my question

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wheme were you fucking with us with your claim

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can you answer

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wheme

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VOTE: milobird

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[quote="In post 471, WhemeStar"][/quote]

i'm fucking mareep you dolt

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please don't meat read me i'm vegetarian

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wagoning me for making a truthful comment about a dumb wagon is foolish

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I feel like this wagon is looking at the surface level and not really digging deeper.

would you say

the wagon is dumb?

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does it sound like i'm going away

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anyone can post pictures of dogs with ash's hair on it though

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wait what about this makes you think red is chowchow

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nevermind this is a rabbit hole

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House rule - the day your pokemon flavor gets outed you are post restricted for the remainder of the day to just say your pokemon name.

fuck

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tempted to make that my avatar

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I’ve already got three of the scumteam. This game is easy mode.

i bet you have 5 in your role pm

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i'm scum

~notty and bell

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look down
VVVV

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Dwlee99 - my gut says they do more as scum.
Milobird (notscience + Bell) - i just think bell is scum, not yet sold on notty
T3 - was recently fooled by T3 but this doesn't feel like that same energy?
Save The Dragons - beep beep i'm a sheep
Wisdom - love being defended by him but i'm not sure where i'd place him yet
imaginality - think could be scum but will have to see more
Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume) - hasn't really said much of anything yet
Whemestar - don't think i've seen him this active seems too brazen for scum
The Goat - need more
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra) - i think it's possible to read people based off of images but i'd need more
mastina - oozing town
Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro) - i think by the grace of nancy this is town
Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens) - not enough info
Ralts - i like the readslist but i think i disagree with it
Gypyx - my read of him is clouded by his townread of me why take that stance as scum seems more like town pointing it out than scum TMIing
SirCakez - just not sure, a lot of posts are nothing
Woolax (wooper + Micc) - has done next to nothing all game
Thestatusquo - like a dog with a bone
SleepyKrew - has no reads, why is he getting town read?
Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous ) - hate some of their posts
Firebringer - i'm probably pocketed, this definitely could be scum but i'm not quite there

not in order

Town:
Dwlee99
T3
Whemestar
mastina
Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Ralts
Gypyx
Thestatusquo

Null:
Wisdom
Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)
The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
SirCakez
Firebringer

Scum:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
imaginality
Woolax (wooper + Micc)
SleepyKrew
Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous )

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I have only played one game with Imaginality where he was town in OMB but not sure why you sr him?

193 - says nothing
197 - seems forced
487 - says nothing
503 - could be either alignment
670 - could be shade on a townie (yes i know i have SK as scum) there's no follow through
671 - says nothing
717 - says nothing
843 - could be either alignment
846 - could be scum jumping on the wagon, could be town seeing a problem with gypyx sure. this post puts some doubt into my read.
847 - throws shade around, but mostly says nothing

mostly gut at this point tbh

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I think Fire is town, scum!Fire is far more likely to pocket everyone.

he has a similar energy as to dogs vs. cats but not quite the same so i'm not sure where to place him yet

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Nope. I'm happy sticking with this. Active in the game but almost completely contentless. Not really committing to any reads or anything, just kinda there.

why do you think scum does this and doesn't desperately try to convince people they're town by switching things up, eh?

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im sorry which one was "~I" again

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that was a joke

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some of those reads make me barf

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Strong Town:

Milobird

chowchow

Better than mild town:
Wisdom

Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)

Ralts

Mild town:
Dwlee99
T3

Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)

Whemestar
SirCakez

SleepyKrew

TRUE NULL
imaginality

Mastina

Woolax (wooper + Micc)

Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)

Gypyx

Mild scum:
The Goat
Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous )

Concerned about:
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Firebringer

Hard scum:
thestatusquo

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milobird - why strong town, i feel like they're scummy
chowchow - why strong town, i feel like there's not enough to read
KTT - how do you have a read at all
Alexandrite - how do you have a read at all
Sleepykrew - how do you have a town read there's nothing going on
Mastina - why is this null she seems really town to me
TIL - why is this null nancy seems really town to me
Gypyx - why is this null he seems pretty polarizing

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the "STD is lying" still bothers the fuck out of me

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notty's energy feels similar to bloodstained (notty scum game) but i'm not sure

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shrug

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This interaction has pushed you into somewhere between the bottom of TRUE null and the top of mild scum.

oh boy!

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the one time i've seen scum mastina she said the most random things i don't know if that's the case with scum!mastina but it's definitely different from my (admittedly only one) example

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but she isn't doing that this game is my point

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i think i downplayed the "randomness." she literally quoted random posts and was like "Town." "Scum?" "Town!" "scum." to them it was bizarre. i mean i get that she got caught that way and could just...not do that, but it's just a different energy

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whatever mastina's not a hill i want to die on

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fb who's scum

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i had the same reaction

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he just made brownies

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did you explain your firebringer read? i don't see it

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you guys talked to each other?

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more brownies for the rest of us then

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alexandrite do you have any slots sorted

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alexandrite do you have any slots sorted

VOTE: Alexandrite

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i haven't been on a town wagon yet i wanna feel what it's like

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wisdom who else is scum

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why is alexandrite town

while woolax and goat aren't

all three literally have barely posted

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if i ask why brain is scum will you answer

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alexandrite?

i'm just pressure voting because they ignored my question to go batter sircakes

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if i ask why brain is scum will you answer

well that's a big no

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not in order

Strong Town:
mastina
Truth Innuendo Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Thestatusquo
Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
Whemestar

Lean Town:
Dwlee99
T3
Ralts
Gypyx
SirCakez

Null:
The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
SleepyKrew
ssbm/Sharing the Brain Cell (esurio + Anonymous )

Lean Scum:
Firebringer
Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)

Scum:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
imaginality
Woolax (wooper + Micc)
Wisdom

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i don't know what scum wheme is like

i've only played with him once briefly so i'm not confident but i just don't think he's scum here

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Im gonna full claim

I am mareep. I pick a target to sheep and when I do I become a double voter when I am sheeping that person

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THIRTY FIVE PAGES?

null

THIRTY FIVE PAGES?

Who are you

I’m The Goat. Hi.

It’s been a while since I played.

null

Wish it were goatrevolt. Goatrevolt ruled.

I’d like to think I’m not a tragic substitute.

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Gypyx posted something early on that felt scummy, but I’m going to do a reread. Hyperskimming 35 pages didn’t give me much.

mostly null

Goats entrance feels off to me so far. Complains about pages (frequent scum tactic when they're behind and need to say something) makes vague comment about the largest wagon maybe being scummy (how would you know? Maybe because buddies are talking about it in pt?)

I was gonna do the Nature Boy entrance, but thought that might be a bit much. Regarding the rest:

1) It was a comment, not a complaint. 35 pages is a hell of a pace for a Mafiascum game, or at least it was back in the day.

2) I commented on something I read. It was a gut read, that’s all. I’m not gonna vote someone based on that.

I’ll have more in a bit. Stay tuned.

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alexandrite

said a whole lot of nothing

waiting for reads

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imaginality

pops in thread looking to post just to post:

As the person who started brain celll wagon I like the gypyx wagon more

Why?

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wooper

ehhhhh probably closer to null haven't said much of anything yet

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wisdom

i don't love his scumreads they're kind of easy. his read on me could be tmi. not sure why brain is his hill he's going to die on, seems like it could be scum that doesn't know when to quit. it's kind of a gut read.

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STD is lying and being weird and I’ll take that to the bank.

this is a lie and misrep and has been ignored by bell

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i explained wisdom in the post before yours

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nah

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good for you

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you seem a bit more engaged than usual which feels vaguely scum indicative

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push me

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noo you were on a good angle asking people about Milobird but you got distracted

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i guess i am curious why she put you there

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i've answered this a lot

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bell is scummy and lied about me lying

notty is within scum or town range

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good for you

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good for you

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VOTE: wisdom

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Wisdom votes don't make sense to me

i have a martini glass full of olives

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i'd off imaginality too

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do you have reads or a better push besides mastina

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just checked and i don't see it

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2. @STD, are u mad.

like a cow

wait why am i mad

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you ever gonna tell me what i was lying about or

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why

what specifically is a lie

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okay so i wasn't lying let's go ahead and moonwalk that back

what's the obtuse statement/circular reasoning

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mmm i dunno.

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VOTE: Woolax

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choo chooo

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was that it or is there more coming

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@STD why did you move me from your scum pile to your null pile?

i think it's kind of like i realized i didn't really have much of a reason to scum read you other than you didn't really do anything yet

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@STD I'm feeling the same way about imaginality that you are. But it also feels like the kind of thing a townie could do and then get easily jumped on for. So do you have any reassuring words for me that he is scum and not a poor townie getting pounced on by meanies like us?

if you would permit me, i'd like to think about this a bit and get back to you

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you mean why are there ONLY 61 pages right

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also i'm a mareep

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mad gamma scum gamma

VOTE: Alexandritegamma

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mad gamma scum gamma

VOTE: Alexandritegamma

just so you know, that meta is legitimately a lie, so you sheeping it is a horrible look

are you literally going to scumread everyone who votes for you

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i think both are bad

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but i can go back to woolax VOTE: woolax

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i tried

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what do you think of wisdom (not the player, but wisdom in general)

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pokemon gotta catch 'em all

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but you can have 6 in your party

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only one way to find out

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only one way to find out

must keep on moving ahead

you know the rules, and so do i

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like me!

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lycanroc, esp midnight

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arcanine's a good one too

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im at the point in my mafia "career" where explaining reads is something ive realized is pointless for players I have experience with - u either trust my process or you dont.

choosing the latter

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It's getting really spicy in here

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I dont think its wheme

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Not voting for ktt

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Not voting for ktt

is it because u dont trust me

Its because I think ktt is town

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I wanna buy in game pokereal estate

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I wanna buy in game pokereal estate

I will allow you to live in my PokeBall

Sounds tiny

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I wanna buy in game pokereal estate

whose head is this

~firebringer

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why am i nicknamed wonderweasel :S

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maybe

it's been a hot minute since this game was a thing so i don't really remember everything

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i wasn't aware i was powerful or a weasel

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pooky are you actually town reading people or are you just binning random people into your pokemon party

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VOTE: pooky

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UNVOTE: way behind will try to get to this when I can

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i'm way behind will try to catch up today

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how many votes is dwlee at?

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VOTE: Dwlee

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wheme seems very town

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what are your other reads

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I'm so confused

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Sorry. I should have waited. Now I'm really confused

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STD what is confusing you? Talk to us

I dont do mechtalk it's a bunch of potatoes

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Okay but who is scum
Other than the mech stuff what are your thoughts

I dunno maybe chowchow

Ask me again tomorrow

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Tomorrow timewise, not like d5

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oof i'm behind again

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I mostly agree with this but add Gamma and Wisdom and STD in the PoE.

I like tsq's takes so far. happy to see where this goes

VOTE: save the dragons

Save The Dragons is the only leading wagon I understand at this point. Haven't seen a case to the Brain Cell or Milobird votes.

y are u tosnreading STD?

woolax's only take was that i was scum. check the iso

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the thing i was going to tell SK was that imaginality doesn't feel like scum like i just saw him in the game i ran, which was making me doubt my sr of him. But at the same time he said he'd be different due to the large theme so i guess take that with a grain of salt.

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it's not great!

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titus is a friendly neighbor so she's only scum if milo is scum too (iirc)

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how many times do we have to go over the fact that nobody read the rules

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I mean if I'm scum there's a bajillion better fake claims I could have made

maybe i'm a sucker but i was thinking this about the claim before imagine posted this

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i think pooky's pretty clear at this point unless SirCakez is a godfather and they got an extra kill and killed their partner nope that's stupid yeah i'd say he's pretty clear

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why is this happening

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see i see a world where a defeated scum!chowchow is just memeing at this point

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wow you chuckleheads didn't even let me post yesterday i was away at a soccer game the entire time the day was up and when i got back home it was over

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willing to claim whenever

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mala titus mathblade cakes all checked innos

pooky milo mastina are town af

koba chowchow I can't remember who else is playing

std is here

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do you think woolax bused me d1

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titus cleared herself

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what number night was mathblade rolestopped

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not opposed to limming chowchow at this point but i wanna wait on a massclaim

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*murkrow

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I'm alive

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i'm ampharos now
n1 - evolve
n2 - evolve
my roles were protective so i thought i was going to become a real doc or something at full evolution
instead i treestump people
i have 2 uses of this ability and have used it n3 and n4

ha suck it two of you are fucked to play this game even when dead

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sorry got bored of waiting

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actually i targeted mathblade N4 so i was probably stopped by gamma?