Open 831: Hanahaki Disease [game over!]

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Your image is glitched, only scum post broken images
VOTE: Queen

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Maybe it’s just that it’s broken on mobile, I didn’t notice anything broken when I looked at the game on PC

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RVS votes can win or lose games imo

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VOTE: T3
That page top was mine

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Have fun lol

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Have fun lol

It Is Fun to Catch Scum VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I would literally say that as either alignment, I have like a thousand games played in some capacity

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Across this site and others, to some degree of completion

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I’m wondering if Queen is good cop, bad cop, or not-a-cop rn
Tone wise I feel like it’s maybe bad cop but the Kanaya typing quirk feels like a good cop thing to do

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I’ll let her respond first

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Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

Conculsion: his opening is nai

yeah this is looking like standard gamma so far

okay no, I agree that my opening

was

awkward so your opinion is out of line imo

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Mine

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yeah but im an outside perspective. to me, you look like you rn.

oh hm

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besides what happened to "I would literally say that as either alignment, I have like a thousand games played in some capacity"? you wanna scumread me that badly?

i mean unless you mean your Very First Post in which case
i dont know what to say

Yeah I meant the stuff that came before T3 said I was awkward???
Why would I mention it being as he said otherwise?

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Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

Conculsion: his opening is nai

yeah this is looking like standard gamma so far

okay no, I agree that my opening

was

awkward so your opinion is out of line imo

but your opening this game was the same as your town/scum games
this post reads as tonally off but all of gamma's posts read as tonally off so it's nai

You feel like you’re kinda obsessed with tone rn, feels like a red flag after 2234

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Is there someone here who can make me feel at peace with myself and the world? I feel like I’m stuck at war with everything I see, no matter how much I try to change myself or my circumstances.

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That was meant as somewhat of an open-hearted comment that both acts as roleplay and a genuine expression of myself.

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VOTE: Deimos
Did someone say E-1?

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I regret nothing. Was fun beating NM to the punch at least.
Curious about the fact Queen has been chosen to fall in love with me. Feels like if scum wanted to cause real chaos they should have done it the other way round.

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Actually now that I think about it

Spoiler:

Queen was pushing me D1, so either I look bad for rejecting her, or she’s forced to pair with someone she suspects. It feels like a raw deal on both ends.

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to be clear i think that should be our strategy each time we go through this phase.

and mentioning (anti-/)associative reasons for a, in this example, queen read, either town or scum, is fine but the focus should stay on queen. Feel free to think on this and bring up how such a strategy could benefit scum, but personally nothing comes to mind.

I don’t get how it’s meant to help town

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I literally don’t even know who Queen is atm. I have vibes of who it might be but they aren’t definite.

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either I look bad

You already look bad. You aren''t nm.

I have literally been playing apprentice to him in multiple games I'm pretty damn sure.

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In past games I'd more been acting as a facilitator for him
also I wanna check Lemon Demon because House kept stealing his hammers in that game

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VOTE: accept proposal
Might as well
Just don't vote me out before I get a chance to use the PT, alright?

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Absolutely wild that people aspire to play like nm

w i l d

I think he has a point in that days drag on a lot, so I try to facilitate stall avoidance by emulating/assisting him

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THAT was just me being cheeky, but it also seemed like Deimos was kinda prejudged as scum

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I didn't think he couldn't be scum
that's really all I can say without backreading

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Okay.

I really can’t wrap my head around hammering like that though without being sure. It’s utterly baffling how you thought that could be helpful.

this feels like a weak response. You're not gonna ask why I answered in the way I did?

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VOTE: gamma
die

VOTE: gamma
time 2 break hearts

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queen is somewhat towny to me
and my reason to accept is it looks like I'm gonna die anyway, and if I die now my choice doesn't matter in terms of queen's longevity, so I opted to accept for the simple fact that I want to hash thoughts out with queen before I die

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Okay.

I really can’t wrap my head around hammering like that though without being sure. It’s utterly baffling how you thought that could be helpful.

this feels like a weak response. You're not gonna ask why I answered in the way I did?

No because i don’t think it matters in this context; you could make up whatever you want about Deimos and I have no way to validate it via your ISO. Trying to wrap it up in a delicate way like you did is just scummy. Shrug.

wdym "trying to wrap it up in a delicate way"?

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I regret nothing. Was fun beating NM to the punch at least.
Curious about the fact Queen has been chosen to fall in love with me. Feels like if scum wanted to cause real chaos they should have done it the other way round.

I find it surprising T3 acts like I don't have an opinion on queen when my opinion on her is pretty damn well implied here.

In past games I'd more been acting as a facilitator for him
also I wanna check Lemon Demon because House kept stealing his hammers in that game

while I'm backreading my ISO, I noticed NM got the very first hammer in Lemon Demon so it he could just be town and butthurt that I got the drop on his ass.

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Not the worst but not very straightforward and an admission basically you had no/a weak read on him.

well yeah
I'm basically saying you're right that I had no real opinion formed on him, but like, NM will hammer basically anyone, even people he townreads I'm pretty sure. I don't think I'd go that far unless it was a read I was in the minority position on. For me, Deimos was basically at =rand scum, and your question felt like "did you SR Deimos/think he was >rand scum", which the basic bitch answer would be "no", but you didn't ask that explicitly so I answered the question you asked.

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So. Let’s switch it up a bit.

Gamma, if you’re not scum: who do you think is? And what do you make of the Deimos wagon in retrospect?

my gut sense reading Queen's ISO was it might be Pooky?
I need to re-look at the deimos wagon members to answer that, gimme a sec.

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If Queen accepts and either of Queen/Gamma are scum then we’ll kill both if they loverize right? So if one is town and the other is scum then we’ll unnecesarilly kill an extra town on top of it.
Isn’t that how this thing works?

If I rejected though then Queen would have died.

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I think I'm the least enthused about pooky+redtea's deimos votes

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not opening up room for conversation on why maybe scum paired them, not waiting until queen showed up, etc
yeah doesn't seem town

I think it would've been scummier to wait for queen to post (assuming this isn't sarcastic)

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not opening up room for conversation on why maybe scum paired them, not waiting until queen showed up, etc
yeah doesn't seem town

I think it would've been scummier to wait for queen to post (assuming this isn't sarcastic)

....????????

gamma the whole point is you can reject people you think are scum

I'm TRing queen
try to keep up

I think I'm the least enthused about pooky+redtea's deimos votes

why are you making us poke you to give a "why" when you're on the hotplate

why

pooky's vote had a faux-serious vibe
yours was very weirdly rationalized, I don't entirely trust how you put the reasoning after

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VOTE: redtea
that's the second time he's made bad meta comments, first time was about me

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okay.. but queen's barely been around
you wouldn't want ANY more info?

yours was very weirdly rationalized, I don't entirely trust how you put the reasoning after

what do you mean reasoning 'after'? I never had the chance.

fwiw, since i didn't get around to it, the reason i didn't like the second of the two of deimos's posts I quoted in #158 was that, ontop of *everything else*, it looked partnery with you. At least that's what I think I thought.

Ofc it all went from "lol myb scum", atp, to "uuuh yeah actually probably scum".

Info on what, how she feels about me? I had a decent strength townread on her, waiting would have only maybe served me in seeing how Queen was perceiving me, which would be scummy as being that self-conscious suggests guilt. I guess I'm also being self-conscious by discussing this but that specific move would have been self-serving in a bad way imo.

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peng feels weird and different

i dont have exp with penguin but i was thinking this

How do I feel weird and different if you don’t have experience with me?

thought it was implied i meant the "weird" part, not the "different" part

VOTE: redtea
that's the second time he's made bad meta comments, first time was about me

second time- where?
as for the first time... t3 agrees with me >.>

Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

Conculsion: his opening is nai

yeah this is looking like standard gamma so far

first you say this is standard-me, when it really wasn't, T3 was right to call me awkward even though it's probably a town!awkward for me
and then you try to butt in on the penguin meta discussion by claiming he felt weird despite having minimal meta with him
I'd wait for a third instance before calling it a true pattern but I'm trying to be decisive rn so I chose to vote on that point + the deimos vote also seeming off

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So. Let’s switch it up a bit.

Gamma, if you’re not scum: who do you think is? And what do you make of the Deimos wagon in retrospect?

my gut sense reading Queen's ISO was it might be Pooky?
I need to re-look at the deimos wagon members to answer that, gimme a sec.

pooky is literally in the game

no, I wasn't saying I thought Queen was a Pooky alt, I meant I thought pooky was suspicious based on the fact Queen was made to propose to me

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redtea/T3/Pooky
that's the team right there.

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Have fun lol

It Is Fun to Catch Scum VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Have fun lol

It Is Fun to Catch Scum VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I would literally say that as either alignment, I have like a thousand games played in some capacity

But Like What Is Some Capacity

That's Nice I'm Happy For You Genuinely

this is probably the big thing I can point to, this might change depending on who Queen's main is but I think out of the people who would have the tone she does, this sort of interaction with me is a towntell. She's unfortunately wrong about her read of me, but we can get to that. Aside from that, I just think the way she's carrying herself is towny.

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I Am Used To Such Antics Because I Have Read Homestuck And A Character In That Has The Same Typing Quirk

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Anyway Queen is basically giving me the finger in the PT so y’all can vote me off now ig

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And I’m dead certain Queen is either good cop or bad cop.

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Nope, didn’t even let me food tell.

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VOTE: pooky

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VOTE: gamma

finally proper wagons

that's nm's e-1 on both

You’re aware of who has yet to vote right

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Corrupted Save Scum Files

This set of words brings me much joy lol

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One of these days, you’re gonna break your glass

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That’s not what I meant
When I tried to work with her I was essentially told “I don’t care” so the entire purpose of the PT is null and void, and there was no reason to wait for further communication

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Gamma Emerald - scum for the whole queen thing

wut
I just explained it, what’s your fucking problem?

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Nah, not listening to NM makes you a winner
I’ve tried to adapt my play to include the boys I like from his method and his response is wanton murderlust at me. You don’t want what he’s selling.

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include the bits*
What the fuck, autocorrect?

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I mean - that makes me want what he is selling.

Well fuck you too.

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I’m saying NM’s response to emulating his play has been to want my head
You say that’s fine by you

That feels personal.

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Me wanting your head because you adapted his lolhammering? Sorry if that feels personal.

That’s not the only part I’ve adopted though. I’ve also adopted his philosophy of wanting shorter game days. Which is why I’ve adopted the quickhammers, as those help facilitate that part.

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ok boomer

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Obviously starting them is a better fit for me. Still not perfect but still better.

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Fancy voting yourself to take down Queen?

I was debating it for a moment to snag the last pagetop, then I missed the window

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Well, I guess I have 23 posts of spam to make now

The moment passed lol
Anyway, see if I ever work with you again

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zzzz

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I mean, that was just me being tired of Penguin taking everything I say literally
Not like it fucking matters

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Who says you haven’t played with town!me, redtea? I have secrets.

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I’m saying you’ve played with town!md on a game where I was using an hidden alt

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actually i have no idea if mafia can pair people who are already paired

Wondered about this myself and still curious how that would go.

They can but it breaks prior pairings

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I feel like we had the wrong idea of how to use our ability perhaps