Open 831: Hanahaki Disease [game over!]

[Deimos27]

First

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Ah yes it's good to be back

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VOTE: Pooky
The bear is dangerous. I demand immediate sheeping from all junior players (join date < 16 Oct 2016)

[Deimos27]

Ah yes it's good to be back

Hello What Are You Listening To Boy

Thank you for asking I am currently listening to a lecture on political theory

[Deimos27]

I am like 95% sure I know Your Majesty's identity

[Deimos27]

Are you saying you're disappointed in my margin of error or what are you saying.

Wanna vote Pooky?

[Deimos27]

I would be lying if I said I did not see this coming

[Deimos27]

I’ll only sheep the most dangerous and gangster bad boy in the block.

Dangerous for scum!Norwee, if no one else

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VOTE: Pooky
The bear is dangerous. I demand immediate sheeping from all junior players (join date < 16 Oct 2016)

My previous account is older, as such I humbly ask for an exception.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
this is staying

I don't know N_M that incredibly well but like how much success would you say you generally have with sorting him with early vote pressure

[Deimos27]

I’ll only sheep the most dangerous and gangster bad boy in the block.

Dangerous for scum!Norwee, if no one else

(This was supposed to be in response to you asking how dangerous I am)

[Deimos27]

I’ll only sheep the most dangerous and gangster bad boy in the block.

vote deimos or i'll slash your tires

You vote me first coward

[Deimos27]

I have not read the setup. But i got a town role pm anyway so who cares.

I have read the setup but I have not bothered thinking about what NK strategy is optimal and can live happily in the knowledge that it probably shouldn't be discussed until the D2 reject/accept phase anyway.

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hey im starting to think norwee might be town i mean he just said he got a town pm

I've got him locktown personally

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I kind of want in on this
VOTE: Deimos

[Deimos27]

Try something new

[Deimos27]

I promise I 100% genuinely consider my current vote to be pro-town

[Deimos27]

Not sure how this will play out because nobody loves me

I don't remember if we ever really got a chance to play
I'm sure I'll learn to love you

[Deimos27]

Oh dear we're on the third page already.
Should be plenty of content for a full readslist from you Clem. Please provide within 5 minutes or be labelled confscum

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Oh dear, it appears he's called my bluff.

Welp. I'm all out of ideas.

Norwee, are you still waiting for a badass to manifest or would you do us a favour and vote someone?

[Deimos27]

I was about to confess my love for you but it sounds like I've already proven unworthy ;-;

[Deimos27]

Gamma is pretty alpha

Image looks fine to me

[Deimos27]

Gee now what is even the point of voting myself.
I thought we had a real connection there N_M

[Deimos27]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Not_Mafia
We could try something like this, this is pretty interesting

[Deimos27]

Very well.

In that case I release you of your obligation to vote Pooky and instead recommend N_M

[Deimos27]

Weak tr on deimos because VIBES

A read! A read! My kingdom for a read.
Thank you good sir.

[Deimos27]

Very well.

In that case I release you of your obligation to vote Pooky and instead recommend N_M

I thought we were learning to love eachother?

I'm sorry, I was thinking that my parents would never agree to our marriage unless it were determined that your political affiliation is to the green party instead of the red.

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Is that why your balls are so large

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From what you've said so far T3 I really wouldn't expect your vote to be on Pooky.

[Deimos27]

Damn I missed the Queen.
Always wanted to meet her

[Deimos27]

You there Clem?

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Finally

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Wait you sr me for the fear vote

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What would a real one look like

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Had you read up when you made that vote Pooky

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I just don't get how you read 5 pages and then say with an apparently serious tone that you have a read on me and it's off my first RVS vote.

The half joking "smell" response to my follow-up then felt inconsistent with the seriousness I was picking up.

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Pooky > N_M currently
VOTE: Pooky

[Deimos27]

Clemency are you voting me because I am your strongest sr or is it for another reason

[Deimos27]

Thank you for your opinion

[Deimos27]

What is the good take

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Do you think Pooky is making any semblance of sense currently

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Provocative playstyles annoy me and make me feel provoked

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Deimos Dear I Will Protect You If You Become My Willing Peon

As a general rule I wouldn't say no to a bit of protection but if you think I'm town shouldn't that usually come free of charge

[Deimos27]

how is deimos still alive

wild

Like this is just upsetting

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If you're adopting me does that make me a prince

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Can I give everyone the crash course to reading Deimos? The big secret as to why I am more serious as scum?

1. When I am town, I enjoy the game
2. When I am scum, I do not enjoy the game

It's a complicated formula and it's blatant self-meta but these be the facts

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And Clemency knows this about me which is why him voting me was also a Big Shock™

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VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Oh yes
Put me in that pocket please Miss
I will dance for you in your pocket

[Deimos27]

found it

I kind of want in on this
VOTE: Deimos

Scum

Gamma is pretty alpha

Image looks fine to me

doubly scum

If you elaborate on these I will elaborate on why I considered the self-vote to be pro-town

[Deimos27]

It's probably a bad sign that I feel currently inclined to scumread everyone attacking me and townread everyone defending me

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i think the first quote is self-explanatory, so why dont you go first?

I believed that voting myself created a favourable vote distribution by tying the leading wagons. The associations created by how players react to / break ties are one of the few ways I know how to generate useful information from RVS after some flips later in the game.

More briefly, I was hoping to incentivise someone to vote me (or N_M) and break the tie in an informative manner.

More briefly still, I also found it funny and fun.

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And Clemency knows this about me which is why him voting me was also a Big Shock™

Clemency might be more independently scummy for this?

I am very ok with clemency wagon if it's something that would also unite you and redtea

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It's probably a bad sign that I feel currently inclined to scumread everyone attacking me and townread everyone defending me

bruh i havent even begun attacking you chill

I was using attack and defend in their broadest senses comprising mere scumreading and townreading

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oh yeah
I'll tell you about the seconf quote in a bit deimos
i wont forget

Thank you

[Deimos27]

i think the first quote is self-explanatory, so why dont you go first?

I believed that voting myself created a favourable vote distribution by tying the leading wagons. The associations created by how players react to / break ties are one of the few ways I know how to generate useful information from RVS after some flips later in the game.

More briefly, I was hoping to incentivise someone to vote me (or N_M) and break the tie in an informative manner.

More briefly still, I also found it funny and fun.

and you found that voting yourself, a typically scummy tactic, would be the best way to achieve this

It was one way to achieve it. It was also fun and new to me. N_M does it, Clemency does it. Why not me?

I've given you my town motivation. Why don't you describe to me what the scum!Deimos motivation would have been? I've heard it said e.g. that self-voting denies the town information of where I would've used my vote otherwise, but I've used my vote liberally in addition to the brief self-vote. Self-voting as part of an elimination wagon is obviously playing against wincon as town, but I was obviously never staying on that wagon until my elimination.

Scum maybe gets some vague wifom town points, depending entirely on which level of wifom you decide to analyse me to. That's all I can think of.

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VOTE: Clemency

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I’m counting deimos as mine caught scum, just fyi.

At this rate I'd be guaranteed to get at least a few good "I told you so's" in postgame

[Deimos27]

And Clemency knows this about me which is why him voting me was also a Big Shock™

Clemency might be more independently scummy for this?

I am very ok with clemency wagon if it's something that would also unite you and redtea

ofc you are

Well it seemed like you were at least leaning scum on Clemency so perhaps this at least gives you an association to think about

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Page 1 catch even.

Ding, dong,
You are wrong

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Well I mean that's just equivalent to d1

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Page 1*

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Is the first pagetop not on page 2
Datisi's been my back up mod

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Oh dear we're on the third page already.
Should be plenty of content for a full readslist from you Clem. Please provide within 5 minutes or be labelled confscum

sorry i was playing genshin impact

Scum

Deimos

Town

Everyone else

I think town!clem somehow acknowledges the fact that I'm teasing him here about his inability to form reads early.

In general he feels abnormally... emotionally distant.

That's aside from the fact that knowing my meta I don't think he ever votes me.

My views grow stronger.

[Deimos27]

I am currently mildly feverish (yes I have a negative test result) and I don't think 2am is doing any good for this headache so I think I will take my leave. Will check back at time t in the morning.

[Deimos27]

Dang it was T3 that's sick

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My reads were bad so probably a good thing I wasn't playing

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Although wish you'd gotten Pooky earlier, that's the one thing

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I assume it's the fact that you didn't let him chime in first

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You should've done the T3 -> Pooky loverise
You should've done it

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I will add my voice to the chorus of assent.
I'm sure it's an even better setup when you don't get limmed D1 though.