Open 831: Hanahaki Disease [game over!]

[T3]

VOTE: Pooky
The bear is dangerous. I demand immediate sheeping from all junior players (join date < 16 Oct 2016)

VOTE: pooky
I'm a miller btw

[T3]

Hello seal food!

[T3]

VOTE: Pooky
The bear is dangerous. I demand immediate sheeping from all junior players (join date < 16 Oct 2016)

My previous account is older, as such I humbly ask for an exception.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
this is staying

I don't know N_M that incredibly well but like how much success would you say you generally have with sorting him with early vote pressure

Very well.

[T3]

What’s everyone think of the setup?

Cultsided imo

[T3]

Weak tr on deimos because VIBES

[T3]

i've been killed in rvs

I lolhammered pooky in RVS in my first game onsite.

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Very well.

In that case I release you of your obligation to vote Pooky and instead recommend N_M

I thought we were learning to love eachother?

I'm sorry, I was thinking that my parents would never agree to our marriage unless it were determined that your political affiliation is to the green party instead of the red.

no that's because i claimed a guilty on my scumpartner as traitor

[T3]

Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

[T3]

Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

Conculsion: his opening is nai

[T3]

Sup everyone.

Pengy owes me a carry

Deimos might be scum. His fear vote felt performative

VOTE: pookythis feels forced

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I just don't get how you read 5 pages and then say with an apparently serious tone that you have a read on me and it's off my first RVS vote.

The half joking "smell" response to my follow-up then felt inconsistent with the seriousness I was picking up.

You put it better than I could.

[T3]

A Scum Deimos Does Not Joke Around And Is More Serious

you can be town for this and i'll sheep this read

[T3]

A Scum Deimos Does Not Joke Around And Is More Serious

deimos seems to have missed rvs in that one so it doesnt count

or not

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And Clemency knows this about me which is why him voting me was also a Big Shock™

Clemency might be more independently scummy for this?

[T3]

It's probably a bad sign that I feel currently inclined to scumread everyone attacking me and townread everyone defending me

Shining beacon of towniness tbh

[T3]

t3 if youre up for it i recommend giving pooky's meta a skim.

sure

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Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

Conculsion: his opening is nai

yeah this is looking like standard gamma so far

okay no, I agree that my opening

was

awkward so your opinion is out of line imo

but your opening this game was the same as your town/scum games
this post reads as tonally off but all of gamma's posts read as tonally off so it's nai

[T3]

And Clemency knows this about me which is why him voting me was also a Big Shock™

Clemency might be more independently scummy for this?

I am very ok with clemency wagon if it's something that would also unite you and redtea

VOTE: clemency sure

[T3]

Sup everyone.

Pengy owes me a carry

Deimos might be scum. His fear vote felt performative

VOTE: pookythis feels forced

rofl did u roll scum again or some bullshit

fuck you got me

[T3]

It's probably a bad sign that I feel currently inclined to scumread everyone attacking me and townread everyone defending me

Shining beacon of towniness tbh

explain this read

That kind of post usually comes from town afais

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town pooky actually gave good reasoning is white flag and radio buzz

[T3]

Gamma's opening feels really awkward to come from town Gamma.
That means..... IT'S META TIME!

Conculsion: his opening is nai

yeah this is looking like standard gamma so far

okay no, I agree that my opening

was

awkward so your opinion is out of line imo

but your opening this game was the same as your town/scum games
this post reads as tonally off but all of gamma's posts read as tonally off so it's nai

You feel like you’re kinda obsessed with tone rn, feels like a red flag after 2234

i realized when writing the post that it kinda sounded like what i did in 2234 yeah

[T3]

lmao

[T3]

That's it I'm going to stop pretending I have day 1 reads. People got on my case for not having any, but time and time again shows my d1 reads are trash. I will compile a list of examples, put them in my sig, and point to it every time someone gives me shit.
i WILL

This post probably comes from town.

[T3]

Damn, Deimos is the reason i signed up to this game. But his posts felt so fake.

Vaguely want to scumread this for reverse mindmeld.

[T3]

That's it I'm going to stop pretending I have day 1 reads. People got on my case for not having any, but time and time again shows my d1 reads are trash. I will compile a list of examples, put them in my sig, and point to it every time someone gives me shit.
i WILL

This post probably comes from town.

Why?

Seems like the kind of thing scum don't fake tbqh

[T3]

T3, are you scum again?

Anyways, I think we should try to kill the werewolves. Feel free to bus me early because I'll bus you all. The miller claim is an inside joke but I can always say it's serious later. I might rolecop unwnd because of the soft?

[T3]

Damn, Deimos is the reason i signed up to this game. But his posts felt so fake.

Vaguely want to scumread this for reverse mindmeld.

what does this mean

Norwee’s a fine vote post-confession phase.

i disagree, norwee's jokes don't feel like they double as a weapon, so he feels town rn

Deimos's posts felt very real to me but Norwee had the exact opposite reaction at the same time.

[T3]

VOTE: accept proposal
Might as well
Just don't vote me out before I get a chance to use the PT, alright?

what the fuck tbh

[T3]

peng feels weird and different

[T3]

VOTE: gamma
die

[T3]

like there is 0 town motivation to accept queen's proposal when there's no way he even has a read on queen

[T3]

I regret nothing. Was fun beating NM to the punch at least.
Curious about the fact Queen has been chosen to fall in love with me. Feels like if scum wanted to cause real chaos they should have done it the other way round.

I find it surprising T3 acts like I don't have an opinion on queen when my opinion on her is pretty damn well implied here.

In past games I'd more been acting as a facilitator for him
also I wanna check Lemon Demon because House kept stealing his hammers in that game

while I'm backreading my ISO, I noticed NM got the very first hammer in Lemon Demon so it he could just be town and butthurt that I got the drop on his ass.

Yes, you have an opinion on Queen. I never said you didn't. i just don't understand where the opinion is coming from.

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So. Let’s switch it up a bit.

Gamma, if you’re not scum: who do you think is? And what do you make of the Deimos wagon in retrospect?

my gut sense reading Queen's ISO was it might be Pooky?
I need to re-look at the deimos wagon members to answer that, gimme a sec.

pooky is literally in the game

[T3]

VOTE: redtea
that's the second time he's made bad meta comments, first time was about me

VOTE: gamma
just wow

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peng feels weird and different

i dont have exp with penguin but i was thinking this

How do I feel weird and different if you don’t have experience with me?

thought it was implied i meant the "weird" part, not the "different" part

VOTE: redtea
that's the second time he's made bad meta comments, first time was about me

second time- where?
as for the first time... t3 agrees with me >.>

This is kind of a mindmeld and the fact that redtea said it probably comes from town.

[T3]

Gamma/Peng interaction probably isn't s/s if Gamma flips scum

[T3]

So. Let’s switch it up a bit.

Gamma, if you’re not scum: who do you think is? And what do you make of the Deimos wagon in retrospect?

my gut sense reading Queen's ISO was it might be Pooky?
I need to re-look at the deimos wagon members to answer that, gimme a sec.

pooky is literally in the game

no, I wasn't saying I thought Queen was a Pooky alt, I meant I thought pooky was suspicious based on the fact Queen was made to propose to me

ah

[T3]

@t3 i'm a little confused by the use of "mindmeld" there since i didn't give much in the way of opinions

just wondering where we're at exactly

Mindmeld might be the wrong word. We agreed in the moment.

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Pengy did you roll scum again or something

Yes

You should still be soul masons with me.

dambit pengy

i told you to bribe the mod

All of this joking around feels very forced and unlike the town Pooky I've seen before. From what I saw in white flag and Radio buzz Pooky joked around for a bit and did some blind sheeping but then actually like, made cases and did stuff.

[T3]

Why Are You Talking With An Capitalization Of Every Single Sentence, I Find It Odd And Also Distracting. Not To Mention I'ts Tiresome Having To Constantly Press Caps Lock On And Off. How Do You Keep Doing This Without Going Insane?

Use The Shift Key?

you're here
but you're not commenting on anything and fluffing
which in of itself is usually nai but also i think town you would be more serious

[T3]

Then why are you voting gamma?

You sure are throwing shade without much action.

I scumread Gamma more than Pooky.

[T3]

Anyway Queen is basically giving me the finger in the PT so y’all can vote me off now ig

Why is Queen scumreading you scum indicative?

[T3]

VOTE: pooky

I have something to say in the way of anti-associatives if Gamma flips scum but I'll leave it for now.

[T3]

;

datsi the pagetop lord

[T3]

Why Are You Talking With An Capitalization Of Every Single Sentence, I Find It Odd And Also Distracting. Not To Mention I'ts Tiresome Having To Constantly Press Caps Lock On And Off. How Do You Keep Doing This Without Going Insane?

Use The Shift Key?

you're here
but you're not commenting on anything and fluffing
which in of itself is usually nai but also i think town you would be more serious

please don't pretend to know how i play anymore after this...plskthxbye

I played like twice with you and I thought in gotf you did stuff.
i honestly don't remember too much

[T3]

That’s not what I meant
When I tried to work with her I was essentially told “I don’t care” so the entire purpose of the PT is null and void, and there was no reason to wait for further communication

fair
fair

[T3]

T3 could be town.

Penguin is a penguin.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skoWevMUemc[/youtube]
good documentary imo

[T3]

ew what
how do i fix that embed

[T3]

thanks for solidifying my point?

You don't and I'm getting pretty tired of the seal stuff tbh.

k
i'll do actual meta on you at some point

[T3]

penguin's fluff is nai
cool

[T3]

redtea - town for reasons previously explained
Clemency - lean scum for scummy hop on deimos wagon
Gamma Emerald - scum for the whole queen thing
T3
PenguinPower - null i have no clue
PookyTheMagicalBear - lean scum for badvibes + gth meta
NorwegianboyEE - null scum for badvibes
Not_Mafia - lean town because his joking feels natural
Vulture - null town because goodvibes
Queen - town but this mainly hinges on gamma flipping scum. doesn't really matter anyways

[T3]

psh - detective cow man doesn't have a game named after him

detective pikachu

[T3]

Sit down and watch Netflix with me, we'll have only good vibes T3.

What anime?

[T3]

Gamma Emerald - scum for the whole queen thing

wut
I just explained it, what’s your fucking problem?

1. i don't buy it
2. this seems like a dumb thing to get angry about

[T3]

redtea unvoting gamma is a bad look ngl

scummiest shade 2021

[T3]

zzzz

Scumclaim.

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easiest choice of my life

VOTE: reject

VOTE: pooky
[insert yikes meme here]

[T3]

oh wait i had gamma anti associatives let me find them

[T3]

ah yes
Gamma and Queen and Gamma and Peng aren't pair
Queen dead tho

[T3]

Either pooky is crazy fast and loose meming limbait town who scum decided to pair someone with or this is a repeat of yesterday.

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I don't think Gamma decided he was dead anyways. I think he knew he would get scumread but eventually caved in in the hopes his partners could deepwolf.

[T3]

Either pooky is crazy fast and loose meming limbait town who scum decided to pair someone with or this is a repeat of yesterday.

I hiiiighly doubt this is a repeat of yesterday
tbf if anyone could pull this off as scum it would be pooky but if this is scumplay it's pretty wild, and I would bet it's just town pooky doing what he wants

but.... why

[T3]

ah true
i don't know

like i feel pooky being independently scummy outweighs that

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holy shit i completely forgot this game existed

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like i thought it was the night and pooky had flipped scum and i saw the game thread was open and i was confused because i didn't get a daystart pm LMAO

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What a boring proposal that was

VOTE: Vulture

what the

okay
so why is vulture dcum

[T3]

vulture looks kinda like stuck scum rn

caught by nm

what in the blazes in everyone saying

[T3]

and where is everyone

[T3]

and where is everyone

where are you?

in Massachusetts sitting in my living room wbu

[T3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCd2PfdslAs

[T3]

the real question is why is that available on apple music

[T3]

p funny when I was being nice to vulture you're like white knighting me but when vulture gets some pressure you're like "i've changed my mind pooky is scum"

lol hilarious really

you need to work on your transitions better homie

looked over the past day properlyVOTE: pooky
I was kinda split on pooky or vulture, but in the end I was feeling vulture's "i don't think you're this obtuse", so i'll vote pooky and we'll see where it goes.

so this could be a bus

[T3]

bc if pooky is scum that was the dumbest play I'd ever seen
I just can't see scum putting pooky in that position in the first place unless pooky is town and they were hoping to get 2 town kills out of today
I mean MAYBE they were trying to do some major wifom play, or maybe norwee's reads were really dangerous, which I'll look into later

but with that rejection, I doubt he's scum.

like it only makes sense for scum to pair up a town-wide sr

and my interpretation is that pooky didn't want to play the game scum was trying to set him up for

looked over the past day properlyVOTE: pooky
I was kinda split on pooky or vulture, but in the end I was feeling vulture's "i don't think you're this obtuse", so i'll vote pooky and we'll see where it goes.

This is a bad progression. You also had a bad progression with Gamma.

oh YES this is a bus

[T3]

kekw

no

[T3]

so you dont actually believe hes bussing me.

you are just making shit up?

cool story

I think they’re bussing you. I think you’re more likely to be scum.

[T3]

VOTE: redtea

VOTE: redtea
Sure

[T3]

Where is clemency

[T3]

Because I scumread them because I think pooky is bussing them and they had bad progression
I don’t scumread them as much as pooky
But now you voted pooky and this game is kinda dead so I voted redtea

[T3]

*you voted redtea

[T3]

during night 3,

Vulture

has fallen in love with

PookyTheMagicalBear

.

the sun rises, it is now day 4.

LMAO

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i cant believe we r even having this convo if i was scum i would just reject alrdy -.-

doubt

[T3]

Nevermind, forgot about the lover NK mechanic

seems like the kind of thing that would be discussed in the scum pt

[T3]

wake me up when it's all over

[T3]

pooky
reject vulture
or accept
either way we lim you and you flip scum
and then vulture dies whenever and probably flips town

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why you gotta do this to us

[T3]

lmao™

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so if pooky and ethany are both town then we lose

[T3]

if we lim them

[T3]

ythan
vote pooky
outed scum
VOTE: pooky

[T3]

pooky loving you was a scumclaim

[T3]

not like a confscum scumcla
but like pooky was being hard sussed d1 and was 100% gonna die the following day
then pooky killed someone by the lover mechanic
then we limmed someone else

[T3]

it won't matter in the end

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lmfao i got prodded

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Peng scum tbh

but why

[T3]

also assuming me and clemency are both town then pooky can't be town or scum would have quickhammered?

[T3]

pooky/nm scumteam
the end

[T3]

I'll come back in a bit and see how I feel about Pooky scum.

kill him

[T3]

I have been prodded.

hammer bear

[T3]

the scumteam is pooky/nm like 90% of the time here
unless penguin in bussing (probably not)
or pooky/ythan are scum (probably not)
or pooky is town (probably not)

[T3]

whare is ethany

[T3]

so ythan like actually could be pooky's partner

[T3]

i could 100% see scum pooky doing that ballsy of a play though

[T3]

vote count 4.final

with 6 votes in play, it took 4 to make a decision. day 4 ended.

yeet

PookyTheMagicalBear [4]:

T3, Clemency, PenguinPower, Ythan

[HAMMER]

PenguinPower [2]:

Not_Mafia, PookyTheMagicalBear

not voting [0]:

mod notes

~ current lover pairs: Ythan x PookyTheMagicalBear

okay then

[T3]

so nm is basically confscum
but there's like a 0.01% chance penguin's vote was a bus

[T3]

i think scum went for the low info love and decided to match 2 obvtown with the each other but idk

either way i think accepting clemency is the best play here

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hmmm true
should i reject right now or should i let clemency speak?

[T3]

honestly i'm kinda impatient and we're all online right now so

reject clemency

[T3]

well then

[T3]

convince me

[T3]

Wanna vote Pooky?

How dare you.

VOTE: Deimos

VOTE: deimos

Ah. So glad you are my soul mason this game.

Pengy did you roll scum again or something

Yes

You should still be soul masons with me.

Interesting.

VOTE: pooky

Don’t worry mason bro. Just trying something out.

just going zzzzzzzzzzz is definitely helpful if town...like...the most helpful thing you could do. don't listen to pooky

pooky - tell me who is scum. I need to be carried.

Pengy town

I know this already....you need to tell me who scum is!

bc if pooky is scum that was the dumbest play I'd ever seen
I just can't see scum putting pooky in that position in the first place unless pooky is town and they were hoping to get 2 town kills out of today
I mean MAYBE they were trying to do some major wifom play, or maybe norwee's reads were really dangerous, which I'll look into later

but with that rejection, I doubt he's scum.

like it only makes sense for scum to pair up a town-wide sr

and my interpretation is that pooky didn't want to play the game scum was trying to set him up for

looked over the past day properlyVOTE: pooky
I was kinda split on pooky or vulture, but in the end I was feeling vulture's "i don't think you're this obtuse", so i'll vote pooky and we'll see where it goes.

This is a bad progression. You also had a bad progression with Gamma.

so...uh...what are you doing pooky?

VOTE: pooky

reasonable conclusion - so either one of pooky/ythan is scum or one of you/clemency is scum.

ythan is unlikely scum because why put yourself in that position vs. town!pooky so we'll narrow that down to at least one scum in {pooky, t3, clemency}

pooky/nm would be a fun team given nm's outright insistence on not hammering pooky when given the chance

i have no idea how to read clemency's contributions to this game and you just come across as scummy so I'm kinda in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ mode but will probably vote pooky because i don't want to drag this on forever and there's a fair shot i've been blind.

counterpoint: scum pairing two townies when one of them (pooky) seems like an easy push almost guarantees a win in Elo.

nm can only be scum with pooky which would make me sad because it should have been me, not gamma, on that team.

even if detective pengy has turned from the light

maybe its because of the whiskey

for reference

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like some of penguin's interactions with pooky come across as tonally off but that's it
and it can probably be explained by penguin's familiarity with pooky

[T3]

Clemency has died of a broken heart. he was a

vanilla townie

.

Unsurprised.
NM, why was penguin scummier than pooky?

[T3]

If Penguin was town he'd have done more than just an oh Pooky is scum brush off

I guess?
But why vote him over pooky?

[T3]

okay but why is pooky not scum

[T3]

VOTE: penguin

[T3]

That t3 clemency rejection was a scum claim fyi.

It’s probably what I would have done as town tbh

[T3]

datisi if you run this setup again lmk

i'd ideally want to get some feedback from the scum side too, but if it is overwhelmingly positive, i'll probably run it again. if not, i'll most likely try to figure out some changes then run it again regardless.

good setup

[T3]

agreed
It would have been better for wifom but because you and pooky were practically obv scum it was the right move