Open 831: Hanahaki Disease [game over!]

[Vulture]

Hey.

[Vulture]

5%?

[Vulture]

You let him pagetop. Boo.

[Vulture]

Big if true.

[Vulture]

What’s everyone think of the setup?

[Vulture]

I like this setup quite a lot honestly. Maybe I won’t after playing it but on read it seemed fun. The flavor/theme is very fun too.

Games with lovers always Rule though.

[Vulture]

*Twiddles thumbs.*

[Vulture]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Vulture]

Can you elaborate?

[Vulture]

Hmm.

[Vulture]

You absolute goons.

[Vulture]

Queen’s probably town and Gamma’s probably scum.

Someone off wagon pushing two people (the Pooky vote is tenuously a push) on it slapped down on the unrepentant quickhammerer Gamma like a security blanket if Gamma accepts and if public court rejects Queen he can kill her off.

[Vulture]

I think this shouldn’t be an lover team because i don’t see any positives in having it.

You do realize it’s far less likely for Queen to be scum than Gamma right.

You’re advocating for a scenario that most likely kills town for no good reason.

[Vulture]

Norwee’s a fine vote post-confession phase.

[Vulture]

do you sr norwee over gamma?

Nah, Gamma over Norwee; it’s just an endorsement of Norwee as scum.

That’s mainly because I find his mentality of “let it die” clunky, which maybe isn’t as scummy as I want it to be. >_> But saying “I don’t like that pair so it shouldn’t happen” is dumb to me regardless.

The only benefit we get of Queen dying now rather than with Gamma anyways is her flip but I townread her and want her around until that moment.

[Vulture]

Absolutely wild that people aspire to play like nm

w i l d

I think he has a point in that days drag on a lot, so I try to facilitate stall avoidance by emulating/assisting him

What about day 1 needed facilitating?

[Vulture]

THAT was just me being cheeky, but it also seemed like Deimos was kinda prejudged as scum

Okay so did you think Deimos was scum yourself? Your ISO has nothing on him.

[Vulture]

Okay.

I really can’t wrap my head around hammering like that though without being sure. It’s utterly baffling how you thought that could be helpful.

[Vulture]

Okay.

I really can’t wrap my head around hammering like that though without being sure. It’s utterly baffling how you thought that could be helpful.

this feels like a weak response. You're not gonna ask why I answered in the way I did?

No because i don’t think it matters in this context; you could make up whatever you want about Deimos and I have no way to validate it via your ISO. Trying to wrap it up in a delicate way like you did is just scummy. Shrug.

[Vulture]

Can we not power out another vote until Queen actually gets to talk.

[Vulture]

Okay.

I really can’t wrap my head around hammering like that though without being sure. It’s utterly baffling how you thought that could be helpful.

this feels like a weak response. You're not gonna ask why I answered in the way I did?

No because i don’t think it matters in this context; you could make up whatever you want about Deimos and I have no way to validate it via your ISO. Trying to wrap it up in a delicate way like you did is just scummy. Shrug.

wdym "trying to wrap it up in a delicate way"?

“I didn’t think he couldn’t be scum” is very... fleeting.

[Vulture]

Not the worst but not very straightforward and an admission basically you had no/a weak read on him.

[Vulture]

So. Let’s switch it up a bit.

Gamma, if you’re not scum: who do you think is? And what do you make of the Deimos wagon in retrospect?

[Vulture]

Can we not power out another vote until Queen actually gets to talk.

its two votes out of six whatcha worried about already

The animals that voted out someone first day going wild again trying to break out of their zoo cages.

[Vulture]

Yes.

People who are rejected due. It’s better to accept.

[Vulture]

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Sure.

I’m unsure on Gamma. I still think the hammer was horrific but... feels a little earnest today. A scrap of it from our interactions.

[Vulture]

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

The jig is up, the news is out.

adding VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear so that the dumb vote counter recognizes the vote ~D

[Vulture]

This alt was already semi-outted tbh.

[Vulture]

You're mafia and that's okay.

p-edit: Yeah.

[Vulture]

Why did you kill Norwee.

[Vulture]

Meh.

I think you still need to die for D1.

[Vulture]

No.

[Vulture]

Hmm.

It's difficult with the lover mechanic at ELO.

If it weren't ELO, yes, I kill you without a second thought.

:

[Vulture]

I'm more careful when I try, I guess.

[Vulture]

Anyways, I just don't see a reason not to kill you for that D1 wagon.

[Vulture]

It feels extra bad.

[Vulture]

Also Queen thought you were scum too, and she was clearly paired with Gamma for a reason in retrospect.

Knowing that he would be killed most likely for the hammer meant that, whatever she was saying was important enough to kill.

[Vulture]

Have fun lol

It Is Fun to Catch Scum VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Have fun lol

It Is Fun to Catch Scum VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I would literally say that as either alignment, I have like a thousand games played in some capacity

But Like What Is Some Capacity

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Gamma Is Scum And He Has Tied Our Hearts So Cruelly

I Will Vote VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear First But They Are Both Demons

PookyTheMagicalBear Should Not Get Away With His Transgressions Against Peace

Sup everyone.

Pengy owes me a carry

Deimos might be scum. His fear vote felt performative

VOTE: pookythis feels forced

rofl did u roll scum again or some bullshit

If I Am Uninstalled Before I Talk Next: Do Not Let PookyTheMagicalBear Live For Long

He Pushed Deimos For A RVS (Joke) And Smells Of Corrupted Save Scum Files

[Vulture]

So, that being said, why are you town?

[Vulture]

Gamma was not guaranteed to die on daystart -- I believe that immediately killing Queen greatly increases the odds that he does. He attempted to reason with her, from the sounds of his posting, and expressed a townread.

However, she was not cooperating, and when this happened he gave up the fight.

That... feels a lot more likely someone who is vaguely hopeful to reason another person and talk them out of a read, for whatever reason. IDK. The narrative makes more sense to me this way.

[Vulture]

I don't really see how they fail to exist with one another.

Gamma had bleak odds, but there are still odds. So, you slap him together with someone who has these suspicions. It looks better than outright KILLING someone.

He makes his little effort to see if she'll talk it out, see if he can change her mind for the better of his team.

He can't, she is not cooperating. So he goes "okay kill me" to shut off that voice before it can say much more.

Like... those two ideas can exist together. Lol.

[Vulture]

Also, Gamma preferred Redtea over you as a vote before you became a competing wagon.

[Vulture]

Dude, I don’t think you’re this obtuse.

[Vulture]

Zzz.

[Vulture]

I lost WIM after I slipped and now I will artfully prodge.

[Vulture]

Also most of my game thoughts are more about how to handle the lover mechanic than people atp.

[Vulture]

Something something Pooky/Red solve or whatever.

[Vulture]

If Pooky rejects me, please kill him. Thanks.

[Vulture]

You’re still scum either way.

[Vulture]

?

[Vulture]

Anyways, do what you will.

[Vulture]

Maybe if you kill me people will finally realize you’re mafia.

[Vulture]

I don’t really get what you’re saying but uh, looking at the two town wagons that have went through and my conspicuous absence.

Also the fact that mafia would have to be dumb to put me up with you who I’ve been pushing all game if I’m scum and you’re town to risk me being rejected.

[Vulture]

But please, reject me. <3 Go on.

[Vulture]

I don’t want to pocket scum, sorry.

[Vulture]

(:

[Vulture]

Okay kill me and the town can kill you.

[Vulture]

Which funnily enough every flipped town wants you dead. Hmmm!

[Vulture]

No, go on and do it.

[Vulture]

@Town kill Pooky.

[Vulture]

Shouldn’t have paired us together then.

[Vulture]

Not winning me over.

[Vulture]

To not facilitate like every town flip as town? Yeah.

[Vulture]

You have done nothing to convince me you are town.

[Vulture]

...literally not facilitate D1 wagon as you did literally not kill someone with the lover mechanic not go for redtea, find some scum...?

[Vulture]

You’re supposed to not be at this point at day four.

[Vulture]

Who’s scum, Pooky?

[Vulture]

You have no idea after four days?

[Vulture]

I mean, I haven’t killed any townies, so.

[Vulture]

Better no one than townies.

Anyways, just reject me since you’re making a big to-do about not wanting to but having to and then maybe the rest of the town will listen to the what, four? Five? Flipped townies who wanted you dead.

[Vulture]

So true.

[Vulture]

Zzz.

[Vulture]

Probably not.

[Vulture]

If you’re not by some miracle please like get it right today somehow.

[Vulture]

You have my blessing to reject me.

[Vulture]

Shrug emoji. Underdog it if you are town.

[Vulture]

Sorry if this is harsh but I am a little over this game for a variety of reasons.

[Vulture]

I don't have a lot to say left, just waiting on Pooky.

[Vulture]

You should decide.

[Vulture]

Can we just get this over with.

[Vulture]

Are you serious?

[Vulture]

Please tell me what the fuck I am supposed to be townreading from you instead of you just doing this?????

[Vulture]

Very fun and cool.

[Vulture]

Thumbs up emoji.

[Vulture]

Frustrating game, GG, sorry for rep out.