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[Skybird]

Hi everyone!

VOTE: GuiltyLion because I like the name.

[Skybird]

Hi there person I don't think I've played with before,

how you doin?

-Bell

Hi, I'm doing fine. Not sure if you were meaning me, so pardon if you did not.

[Skybird]

I had movie night last night, and alas, missed all this fun!

I don't think I've played with Pavowski before but his posts ping town to me.

[Skybird]

Juliet, no fancy words for your Guilty Lion vote?

[Skybird]

too bad, tell him

This made me laugh and gives me loyal troupe vibes.

[Skybird]

I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.

[Skybird]

I had movie night last night, and alas, missed all this fun!

I don't think I've played with Pavowski before but his posts ping town to me.

Is this sarcasm

-Bell

Not at all.

[Skybird]

I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.

I didn't like how the justification for the vote in 103 feels very overexplanatory

GL has posted a lot more since then. Do you still feel suspicious about that slot?

@GL, my apologies for calling you a slot. I couldn't remember your pronouns.

[Skybird]

WhemeStar, looking through your iso doesn't give me many reasons not to vote you. Do you have any reads besides getting scum pings from Pavo?

[Skybird]

LLD, what does it mean that you voted Bowser Jr. Three posts in a row? This is probably a rhetorical question since it looks like LLD has a post restriction.

[Skybird]

WhemeStar, you going to answer my question from #302?

[Skybird]

Skybird

Sorry Skybird, you have gone into the scum section of my scumpile again.
Her posts feel run-of-the-mill and routine to me with not much evidence of underlying thought process behind them and more looking like posts for the sake of making them. 303 in particular does not seem super well thought out since I feel like LLD has made her meaning behind the posts very clear. 302 and 314 feel more like Skybird positioning herself than actually furthering her understanding of people's alignments etc.

Don't worry about it DV. It's all good.

[Skybird]

Wheme votes me, but looking through his iso I don't see any thoughts/reasons he wants to vote me. Most of the stuff he throws out is without explanation. Example inmost 361 he calls Icebox hard town. How did he get there? Why are people town-reading him?

[Skybird]

RL has been busy and I haven't had time to really dig in yet. Reading now.

[Skybird]

Icebox is hard town btw

Did you ever explain why Icebox is hard town? If not, why are you reading Icebox as hard town?

[Skybird]

Skybird, what is your own read on Icebox?

Null leaning scum. I see them asking questions and interacting with people but I don't see movement in their reads. I didn't see much by way of reads period.

Pav, as I mentioned earlier I've been busy. I'm finding it difficult to follow the game on my phone and hope to do more from my computer this weekend.

[Skybird]

Icebox is hard town btw

Did you ever explain why Icebox is hard town? If not, why are you reading Icebox as hard town?

Because when bell head posts hes town

What about when the other head posts?

[Skybird]

I was going to say I don't really understand the Skybird wagon, but I checked the iso and it's, like, empty. So I'm gonna roll with the crowd here.

VOTE: Skybird

Standing by your Juliet vote? Thoughts on CoF's claim? How do you feel about DV? Is Luke going to eat us?

Juliet has like 8 or 9 posts in 21 pages. You say my iso is empty, have you looked at Juliet's? And I agree, my iso is pretty empty but I'm working on it.

CoF's claim seems weird. Someone mentioned that their role card had other things that aren't known or clear yet as part or their role. Mine has that too. The mod has also stated that it will be possible to buy some things as the game goes on. In my mind it's almost like CoF made the claim for pity reasons. It's a weird claim to make, because if Cof is still alive on D4 I imagine CoF will be waggoned. So why make the claim and why do it the way they did?

DV - I haven't had a chance to really look at this slot yet.

If Luke is going to eat us, I hope we give him indigestion. (Haven't had a chance to look at him closer yet either.)

Now, I have to get some sleep.

[Skybird]

Skybird, what is your own read on Icebox?

Null leaning scum. I see them asking questions and interacting with people but I don't see movement in their reads. I didn't see much by way of reads period.

Pav, as I mentioned earlier I've been busy. I'm finding it difficult to follow the game on my phone and hope to do more from my computer this weekend.

Icebox is probably town.

Your reasons for saying this?

[Skybird]

Public service announcement: while my join date is old, I took off some time from the site and just returned a month ago or so. So for me, LLD's naked votes may be something you are used to, I don't remember seeing this. If her style means something to you, great. It doesn't mean anything to me and I have no idea how to read someone like this.

[Skybird]

I kind of like Skybird's Icebox read. Icebox has sort of been on my radar more as well since my previously expressed reads.

I don't! I doubt think enough has happened to warrant an expectation that anyone would have shifted their reads. I feel like the accusation as they put it could be leveled at practically anyone. What merit do you see here? And yes I am asking you to explain someone else's read.

We have 23 pages of material to look through. You don't think that'll is enough to start developing reads? As far as shifting reads DV has gone from slightly scum reading me to null back to scum reading me.

Icebox has enough posts that I would think to see developing reads from them.

P-edit: Thanks Bowser. I appreciate the info.

[Skybird]

We have 23 pages of material to look through. You don't think that'll is enough to start developing reads? As far as shifting reads DV has gone from slightly scum reading me to null back to scum reading me.

Icebox has enough posts that I would think to see developing reads from them.

having reads, sure, although this game has been a little boring for me so far and i personally don't have many. changing reads, idk, hard for me to feel like that's reasonable when i haven't even finished developing initial reads yet

No problem Ceph, we can agree to disagree.

[Skybird]

I take it this is your suspect list?

Dunn DV JC Cephrir

If this is a suspect list I definitely agree on JC. I still see nothing happening and she's barely playing the game.

Dunn - don't know yet. He's not hitting my radar so he's further down my sort list.

DV - still processing him, though I'm leaning more town on him.

Cephrir - I haven't gotten much from him either. Further investigation required on my part.

Lukewarm - His posting has be weird. I don't believe I've played with him before so I don't know if this is just his playing style or something that could be indicating alignment. Another one I need to look at more.

From your list, who would you choose to be the D1 lim and why?

OK, I have to go load wood to take to the neighbor. Back later!

[Skybird]

Lukewarm - His posting has be weird. I don't believe I've played with him before so I don't know if this is just his playing style or something that could be indicating alignment. Another one I need to look at more.

What do you think of the Luke-DV-GuiltyLion triangle?

It's weird. I've been trying to parce DV and I keep thinking he's very wordy. It makes it hard to figure out his alignment. Nothing jumps out and screams scum to me.

My GL read is leaning town. My Luke read is more null. I didn't like him jumping on GL when Luke linked him to the wrong game. GL's response feels genuine. I think GL vs. Luke is TvT. Not sure why you have DV in there.

[Skybird]

WhemeStar, you have to vote the hydra, not one head of that slot.

[Skybird]

As much as I dislike WhemeStar's play so far, I have to think he is town. I would think his scum buddies would be coaching him in the scum pt so he wouldn't be blundering around so badly.

[Skybird]

I think some players here can vouch it’s hard for me to keep up with scum PT’s

Hmmmm

For a while now I’ve been too broke to pay my electricity bill.

I’m in some dark times
VOTE: Juliet

Are you scum claiming here?

[Skybird]

Yes, Juliet is at e-2 now.

[Skybird]

Because you said that "some players here can vouch it's hard for me to keep up with scum pt's".

Are you saying I shouldn't town read you because you are blundering around? FYI the alternative is I scum read you for it. Which do you prefer?

[Skybird]

I agree Bowser. I think tomorrow's lim should be Wheme.

And Wheme, sorry to hear about your money problems. I hope it gets better soon.

[Skybird]

I agree Bowser. I think tomorrow's lim should be Wheme.

regardless of what JC flips, you'd want to lim Wheme tomorrow? Why not vote Wheme right now, why say this while your vote is on the same wagon he's voting?

Because his play is annoying me. .

I still like my JC vote. Tomorrow's vote will be decided tomorrow after flips and night actions.

[Skybird]

Bowser, why did the earlier wagon on Wheme dissolve? I wanted to look at that over the weekend and ran out of time.

[Skybird]

I can push on Wheme.

VOTE: Wheme

[Skybird]

That's a good point about a counter wagon.

[Skybird]

I really don't love the lack of resistance to either of these wagons

Do you have an alternate player to push? I don't mind someone not liking the way the wagon is coming about, but I'd like to see involvement in where town should go.

[Skybird]

JC, how many players have you tried to engage? I remember from your iso you tried to talk to Cephrir, but that is the only one I remember.

[Skybird]

JC, how many players have you tried to engage? I remember from your iso you tried to talk to Cephrir, but that is the only one I remember.

I've tried to talk with you when you asked me about why I was voting GuiltyLion,

I responded but you didn't really respond back to me?

I've tried to talk to Spiffy about his DV read but he just ignored me.

Am I doing something wrong? It's just depressing to be ignored.

No, you are not doing anything wrong. Sorry I didn't respond to you. I saw your response and got sidetracked.

Keep trying to engage with others. Sharing your thoughts in thread is a good way to talk with others as well.

[Skybird]

If JC is scum, Skybird takes a dive. That's only in a JC scum world though.

Why would she do this if she was the first person to vote for me and call attention to me "not doing things"?

Bailing on a scumpartner's wagon at the first opportunity is scummy. Why would you care though? My argument depends on you scum. Arguing the point is ceding you're scum.

People would also say it was scummy for me to sit on JC'S wagon for so long. :shrug:

Someone said they were concerned about a lack of a counter wagon. (Sorry, phone posting so I can't look it up ) I thought it was a good point. I switched to see what might happen.

[Skybird]

Not liking Wheme's claim, especially since he's claiming not to be able to activate it yet.

OTH, who do you want to vote if the current wagons don't interest you?

[Skybird]

Ok, lots of screwy stuff going on. I don't even know what wheme is trying to claim. I definitely need to re-read all of that. But for now, I'll go back to Juliet.

VOTE: JC

[Skybird]

Ok, I was confused by the wheme kill until I read he had claimed and then went back to his iso. Not sure how I missed that.

I don't know that I would link Pav to Juliet just because he wanted to keep her around. That statement was made pretty early and I don't think scum would want to provide any links to each other.

[Skybird]

OK, at my computer and hoping to actually get some time to put my thoughts in. I have two puppies that are still in the potty training stage which makes it hard for me to sit at the computer for any length of time.

Reading the crier's post in 1014 I see they said that Juliet claimed commuter but I don't remember seeing that from her. I do remember JC saying that she could send one last note. I believe that Juliet was not aligned with the loyal cast members, but don't know if she was scum or 3P.

Did anyone get anything from the second voice? I've read it a couple of times and not seeing anything that helps solve the game.

I see TA was burgled in the night. I was also relieved of my gold. Damn thief! Does this mean there are 2 roles that can steal?

[Skybird]

LLD, I hope you will speak at least a little today, even though you don't want to.

[Skybird]

With 15 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate.

Am I missing something? Shouldn't this be 8 votes to lim someone?

~Spiffy

Yeah, I'm thinking that should be 8, but maybe something weird is going on with the shortened day?

[Skybird]

Hi Skybird! Who do you want limmed today and why?

~Spiffy

Hi Spiffy! Sorry I didn't get to chat with you earlier. Hubby decided it was time to go to breakfast.

I'm looking at a couple of spots. TA's posting today has struck me as odd. I also want to look more at Galron and Wisdom. These last two because I really didn't notice them D1 and want to get a better feel for them, make sure they aren't flying under the radar.

[Skybird]

I am a commuter. I can do it two times total by drinking a potion and sleeping - I can buy more potions for quite a lot of gold.
--
I have another ability that allows me to write a letter to you post-death and I will put more thoughts in there at night - currently I'm just very tired after a long day and would like some rest.

Thanks Luke.
@skybird

[Skybird]

I've read through Galron's iso a couple of times now and while nothing jumps out as scummy it feels very cautious, like he's trying to engage but not putting his thoughts out there.

VOTE: Galron

[Skybird]

I'm thinking Wisdom is town. I don't get any bad vibes when I read his iso.

[Skybird]

I've read through Galron's iso a couple of times now and while nothing jumps out as scummy it feels very cautious, like he's trying to engage but not putting his thoughts out there.

VOTE: Galron

Please reword

-Bell

You're asking me to explain again, right?

Let me try again. He is putting out some reads but not pushing any of them. I keep coming back to it feels cautious. Does that help?

This is not a strong read for me at this time. But I want to see what happens.

[Skybird]

How many of us lost our gold last night? I think there's at least 3 of us.

[Skybird]

Visiting people is not something I can do.

[Skybird]

CoF was the poisoned player. No idea if she still is poisoned.

[Skybird]

This game is moving fast and I need to re-read from the start of this day 2 again because I don't understand how Galron's claim makes him town. (We need a scratching me head smiley.)

[Skybird]

I also need to do some work while I'm at work you know.

[Skybird]

Oh yeah, yep. I definitely failed that test.
They were even called caskets.
Woops.

-Bell

Is it possible failing this "test" is what loverized you with Galron?

Sorry if someone already asked this. It just stuck out on my re-read.

[Skybird]

I'm not sure I believe Galron was robbed. I think claiming to be robbed is a good way to throw people off.

[Skybird]

Titus, you are pretty good with mechanics iirc. Is letting Halron live the best play here?

[Skybird]

I'm not good with mechanics.

[Skybird]

Glad to see we have a bit more time. I panicked this morning when I saw the thread locked.

[Skybird]

Ok, I was looking back on stuff that happened last night and I don't think Galron was the person who robbed me. I got my wages at the end of day 1. It appears that I wasn't robbed until the dawn actions. My notice about the missing gold didn't come until start of day . Did it happen like this for anyone else?

[Skybird]

I also received a piece of paper that had 4 lines of dialog that was there when I woke up.

[Skybird]

DV, I am thinking it was a dawn action because of the order and timing of the mod communications.

I thought for a while that maybe Galron visited Wheme at night and me at dawn, but I don't think his comparing action would work like that. But I'm the first to admit I don't know game mechanics that well.

[Skybird]

Ceph, you only have one vote on you if I read the vote count correctly.

Pedit- I would rather flip Galron too.

[Skybird]

Ceph, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to annoy you. FWIW, I don't see um read you.

[Skybird]

I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night.

[Skybird]

Hey, so, Bowser Jr. Pavowski, Lukewarm and I are in

A scum PT together

a neighborhood and none of us are admitting to making it.
As all good townies do, you shouldn't post in them. It's bad.

I have already done my traditional dunking on of the scum team in these two neighborhoods and so,
for the third time: lmao.

VOTE: OTH

-Bell

DV and I were put in a neighborhood last night too, but neither of us did it.

(Reading and commenting as I read through so DV may have already told you.)

[Skybird]

I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night.

wait, wut?

Mafia apparently can steal 2 gold, but you were not one of those?

I thought only you and titus claimed to be stolen from, and therefore you were both confirmed town as the mafia targets

The way I read Galron's role was scum could steal from one person at a time. That's why I questioned the mod about my gold. Galron could also send lines of script to a person and receive a random snippet of their role. I received 4 lines of script that night. Galron killed Wheme and then delivered the script to me, explaining the track from GL.

[Skybird]

You cannot target the same player for steal and kill in a single night.

Since skybird didnt get stolen from and didnt receive a dialogue
What did galron target her with
When i saw the flip I assumed galron sent the dialogue to wheme since nobody else claimed to receive it

I also received a piece of paper that had 4 lines of dialog that was there when I woke up.

Yes I did. I've quoted the post where I mentioned it on D2.

[Skybird]

I wonder if the name of our PTs have any meaning.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm in a PT with DV. He Hasn't said much yet but I know he's in Australia. When I saw the PT I reviewed his slot because he feels like scum to me. I didn't see anything that made me feel different.

VOTE: DV

[Skybird]

Forgot to mention earlier that we don't have the ability to add people to our PT. It ends at the end of night 3.

[Skybird]

Wow, you all have written some very nice sonnets. I'm inspired to try my hand at it.

P-edit - I know DV said he was in communication with Juliet, but I don't think he is in communication with GL.

[Skybird]

Maybe GuiltyLion will have some wise words for us all. (It would be funny if he thinks I'm scum)

@skybird

Thanks Luke. I'm trying to talk with DV in our hood but he says he is time constrained and will post mostly in the thread.

[Skybird]

I just looked back at my PT with DV to see what he said about talking with Juliet. I had asked if he was surprised by the two scum flips. He said he was relieved and that he was in communication with Juliet day 2. He didn't say how though.

[Skybird]

I just fid a quick count and DV is at e-1.

[Skybird]

why didn't you target 2 scumreads

Yes, I was wanting to ask this question too.

[Skybird]

i cant do this. i just have too much going on right now and this distraction is too much. im sorry

Sorry to see you go, but I totally understand. Hope RL gets under control soon.

[Skybird]

OK, at my computer for a minute.

I would also like to voice my concern over LLD. I really didn't like the hard defending of Galron and wanting to keep him alive to be "useful". As the day progressed LLD even started to say she believed he was town. I haven't had a chance to go back through and pull up the posts but it all felt bad. But I don't have much experience with LLD. On one hand if LLD was scum, why go that hard to try and save a scum buddy. But if Galron was one of the names that needed to be alive to steal coins, maybe the hard defense was worth it.

I'm going back and forth on Pav. He was very towny for me D1. But I agree this whole loverization thing with Icebox is sus as was his activity on D2. I did check his profile and while he is new to the site he's played in games as both town and scum. Not sure I'd vote here today because overall he still feels more town than scum.

OK, out of time. Have to get dressed and off to work.

[Skybird]

Hi Enchant!

The Loyal Troupe is doing pretty well so far. We have nailed 2 scum already. You probably want to iso Pav, OTH, and DV as those are being wagonned right now. But I also think you should look at LLD as some of us have expressed suspicion of that slot.

[Skybird]

OTH, I've been through Pav's iso a couple of times already and he really doesn't mention Icebox very much. I'm not seeing much to indicate suspicion of the slot.

[Skybird]

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[Skybird]

Guessed wrong

[Skybird]

Opps lots to go yet. Pages seem a lot longer on the phone.

[Skybird]

My reads on OTH are tricky. I have some experience with Marci but only a little with GE. I am finding Gamma's posts scummier than Marci's, bit what I'm finding scummy about them is mostly their reactions to Luke's push on the slot.

All that is to say I generally townread the slot, bit given that I am townreading most of the slots in game at this point, the townread on OTH would be toward the bottom of the list.

So you are saying you don't have any scum reads?

[Skybird]

So where do you stand on Titus, Dunn, and Ceph/Enchant right now? Anything changed for those 3?

[Skybird]

How are things going in your pt Pav?

[Skybird]

Luke, you have DV at the bottom of you half thought out reads list bot you are not voting him. Why?

[Skybird]

Thanks Luke. I've been re-reading and looking at iso's for any additional hints on who are scum and not feeling like I'm getting anywhere right now.

[Skybird]

I'm going to sheep Titus.

VOTE: Pav

[Skybird]

Did you guys read what I said

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies

Darn, I forgot.
UNVOTE: Pav

[Skybird]

CoF can you get more specific about Wisdom and what is bothering you?

[Skybird]

I know people have pretty much been ignoring CoF because she will die tonight, supposedly. But do we have any confirmation of this? I've been looking at her iso and I'm not seeing much that says town to me. The claim was weird. What are the chances she is scum?

[Skybird]

Buy time for what though? Are you online now Gamma?

[Skybird]

DV posted in our neighborhood that he thought if CoF was scum, you are probably scum as well.

[Skybird]

How is it strange? It's a paraphrase of what you said.

[Skybird]

VOTE: DV

We need to decide which way we are going. We have a little more than a day left.

[Skybird]

I had asked for his thoughts on CoF and he said she was strong town. I questioned that because I didn't remember much from her iso. He said he would explain more later. Next he said CoF wasn't as town as he thought. He didn't think she was scum with Galron unless also scum with OTH.

[Skybird]

Yeah, everyone keeps saying they will wait until tomorrow to see what happens. The paranoid part of me doesn't believe the claim and we will see something awful happen.

Just another thought, doesn't this role seem kinda broken if there isn't a way to save herself? She says she can buy a potion but doesn't know what it will do.

[Skybird]

DV, I posted what I thought you said. I paraphrased the best I could. You know darn well I can't quote the 'hood exactly. I told you I wanted to talk with you so I could sort you and you have not said much of anything. Yeah you said you were busy. But you have made no effort in the 'hood to talk with me. I am just as annoyed as you are.

[Skybird]

Last reads list DV?

[Skybird]

Yes Titus was robbed N1.

[Skybird]

I think we had some interesting night actions.

[Skybird]

Sorry DV.

I do think DV has a point about re-examining town reads as we go forward. One person I would like to look at is Wisdom.

[Skybird]

Ariel is a spirit from The Tempest.

[Skybird]

CoF said she was in a PT by herself so Ariel has to be her doing imo. Also, Ariel was bound to the magician Prospero in the play.

[Skybird]

LLD is very likely scum yeah

I think you are the scum in that trio.

[Skybird]

Yes, I have a 2 shot block ability and I did use one shot last night to block Wisdom.

[Skybird]

I did not save/heal CoF for the record.

[Skybird]

Titus, are you still able to communicate with GL?

[Skybird]

So how did Bowser put a post restriction on Icebox? (Looking at Wisdom's potions)

[Skybird]

CoF's abilities seem really over powered to me. Especially the global protect stuff.

[Skybird]

CoF, what play are you really from?

[Skybird]

Ariel is a spirit from The Tempest.

@Titus

[Skybird]

I still feel that CoF's roll feels really over powered. I just re-read all the flipped players and they all have one main power and one secondary. CoF seems to be claiming like 3 abilities? Or am I reading wrong?

P-edit Luke seems to be thinking along the same line I am.

[Skybird]

Who all has full claimed?

I did. Wisdom did. OTH did. Icebox did. Pav did. LLD did.

@Skybird claimed roleblocker - was that all?

@Titus you claimed your guess the night kill ability - was that all?

@Bowser Jr claimed to be a neighborizor in our hood - did that ability work last night? They also gave a post restriction. (That feels like a complete claim, but let me know)

Dunn and enchant I don't think I have seen anything from

No, I am also a bodyguard. I had to pick someone by EoD 1 to protect for the rest of the game. My gold ability was a potion that allows me to choose other people to protect. I was able to buy the potion last night.

[Skybird]

I'm not comfortable letting CoF live. There are just too many lies.

VOTE: CoF

[Skybird]

I'm not a fan of Enchant's play so far.

Enchant, please start playing this game.

[Skybird]

Wait, so you're saying that a claim of bulletproof would be suspicious so you wanted to lie about it?

-Bell

It's not suspicious, it's just turns useless.

I guess that explains OTH's earlier result. Why didn't you jail keep anyone tho?

-Bell

Why i should?

It's called trying to solve the game and find scum.

VOTE: Enchant

[Skybird]

Even if Enchant isn't scum, I doubt he is going to do anything useful. He Hasn't even attempted to read the game.



Yeah, I'm just a bit miffed at the moment.

[Skybird]

We are past early game dude. At any rate since you refuse to read it doesn't matter anyway.

[Skybird]

Sorry if I was being toxic. This is the second game I have played with Enchant. Last game he didn't do anything either and he was scum. I know that's not much data for a meta read, but I am going to have to go with it for now.

[Skybird]

I have a hard time believing that CoF doesn't control the Ariel vote. I also don't believe the role claim. If he's town you'd think scum would have killed him by now.

VOTE: CoF

[Skybird]

Why exactly do you prefer Enchant?

[Skybird]

What Wisdom said.

Enchant, if you are town, play the game. If you are scum, keep doing what you are doing.

[Skybird]

Ok, is there anyone that needs more time or wants to say/think about anything?

We have 4 days left but I don't think we need to take that long. I'm good with CoF or Enchant as the lim. I do agree that CoF is more likely to flip scum and would prefer to go there.

[Skybird]

I feel like activity has fallen off from a lot of people. And it does worry me that we are missing something.

[Skybird]

Scum dreaming god isn't impossible, just rare since it's a really useless role for scum to end up with. None of my abilities so far would help scum in any way.

I don't think so. Shortening deadline means town has less ability to control where the vote goes because there's more pressure to compromise, and hoods are pretty strong pocketing tools for scum.

-GE

Also, if you are scum, you could have decided with your team to forgo last night's killing opportunity to get town cred.

[Skybird]

How was the Ariel vote announced?

[Skybird]

ATLEAST I AM RICHER THAN YOU

Is that a confession to stealing gold?

[Skybird]

I'm fine with CoF being today's lim. Consider my vote on him. I don't have any night actions to discuss and I don't have enough coins to buy a potion.

If possible I would like to see the day end early. I got a part in the local theater group's production of The Cemetery Club and rehearsals start on Thursday.

[Skybird]

I don't know. Technically CoF hasn't flipped so the game can't be over yet.

[Skybird]

Ditto what Icebox said.
I don't know where to go from here.

[Skybird]

Looking at vote counts, I noticed that Icebox and Bowser, Jr look suspicious. What do other people think?
P-edit:
VOTE: Bowser Jr

[Skybird]

Pav, how did you get a hood with Bowser.

[Skybird]

I'm ok taking time if we are all going to work on this.

UNVOTE:

[Skybird]

It sucks that so much seems to have happened in this hood that not everyone was in.

[Skybird]

I was thinking. The dawn crier posted yesterday that CoF's gold count not adding up. Then this morning the crier talked about the loverizing thing, shading Pav. It makes me think Pav is town.

[Skybird]

Ok guys, what are people thinking?

One question I've been asking myself is why do I believe Pav about not being able to loverize without a potion? Is it possible that Pav is innocent and the scum team held off on using their lovers ability?

But that makes no sense to hold off. If they had done it sooner, Pav would have been limmed the next day. And yet the scum team was down 2 members pretty early in the game. Why not loverize 2 town earlier knowing they would get the 3rd town in Pav the next day?

The last 2 scum were Ceph/Enchant and unknown. I wasn't really suspecting Ceph until after Enchant replaced in. (I know other people were but I wasn't.) So the scum team may have been cautiously optimistic they could remain alive for a while.

Right now I am just throwing my thoughts out here trying to get conversations started.

Time to get ready for work. So someone jump in here and tell me how wrong I am about stuff.

[Skybird]

Oh thank god Pokemon is ove
I can breath after screaming my head off for 3 weeks.

Can LLD still post? What do they think of Bowser's mechanics argument for why they can't be scum? I'm embarrassingly shitty at how roles work or how many actions scum can take in one night/day phase.

-Bell

LLD can't post again. She said she was a le to post because she brought a potion from Wisdom.

Do you think Dunn could be the last scum?

I understand what Bowser is saying and it does seem like he would have had too many actions to do to be the last scum. So I am torn. I 'd like to sheep LLD. But if scum can use loverize again and we don't lim them, town is in deep shit.

[Skybird]

Dunn, why?

[Skybird]

Dunn, how many scum do you think are left?

[Skybird]

So real life is intruding on my game time tonight. I live in Wisconsin and we have some big storms going through.

But back to the game.

Dunn, why Bowser and not Pavowski?

[Skybird]

Pav, are you and Bowser talking in your hood?

[Skybird]

Please be careful skybird!

Thanks, I will. So far the tornado warnings are to the south of me.

[Skybird]

I asked Dunn that because one of his posts made it sound like he thought there was more than one.

[Skybird]

I don't know for sure if Bowser is clear or not. I don't trust myself on any of this stuff.

I will say I don't like Dunn's response to stuff right now. He's being really passive.

[Skybird]

So do you want to vote Bowser?

[Skybird]

Thanks Dunn, I appreciate you answering again. I'm ready to vote Bowser. Has everyone had enough time to think about it this game day?

[Skybird]

If we lim Pav, we take out the only known loverizer. One of the things I've been wondering is do we have a scum with that ability.

One thing I just thought of was I didn't need to wait for my potion to become available. I just needed to get the right amount of gold.

[Skybird]

If we lim Pav, we take out the only known loverizer. One of the things I've been wondering is do we have a scum with that ability.

One thing I just thought of was I didn't need to wait for my potion to become available. I just needed to get the right amount of gold.

One context please.

-Bell

Not sure what you want.

[Skybird]

Ugh
VOTE: Pavowski

[Skybird]

Ugh because I don't know what to do.

[Skybird]

What potion are you talking about Skybird?

-Bell

The potion I could buy to break my bond of protecting the person I chose on D1. It allowed me to choose a different person each day.

The potion was available all game. I just needed to get the gold. If my potion was available all the time we, why wasn't Pavowski's?

[Skybird]

Sigh, I do apologize. The end of this week was ... difficult over here in Pav land

Sorry to hear your week was difficult. ((Hugs))

[Skybird]

Since no one has had any coins stolen since the first night I think one of the redacted was Juliet. I also think both names were scum.

[Skybird]

Okay, you guys are ready to run me up. Cool cool cool.

Might as well claim.

I'm Oberon's Flower. I make people fall in love. 'Twas I who loverized Galron and Icebox. I had a good scumread on Galron and I was nullish at best on Icebox after d1 (townier since then!). Several of you expressed that loverizing seemed like a scum ability; maybe it usually is (this is my first game with the mechanic), but this time it isn't. I had an ability and didn't want to die with it in my pocket. I do not know why they subsequently fell out of love, but something must have happened to nullify it because my ability was still "spent".

I can loverize again if the opportunity arises for me to repurchase the ability, but it hasn't come up yet, so I'm a vanilla townie right now. As such I do make sense as an elimination target, as until something unforeseen happens, I can't add any intel or affect the game in any meaningful way. I can think of one pair I'm curious to loverize if given the chance, but who knows if that'll happen or if you will let me live that long.

Anyway, watch the vote counts. There is opportunism afoot.

And I wrote you guys a damn sonnet, too.

Probably done posting for tonight!

OK, I went back through the game and read every flipped player's card. Everyone had a potion they could buy to be able to use an ability again, or break a condition of the ability. I don't believe Pav when he says he hasn't had the opportunity to purchase another loverizer spell. Wisdom did not have a lover potion. Pav saying the chance to buy another lover shot hasn't come up doesn't make sense.

[Skybird]

I'm never lucky enough to be the night kill. I will be voting Dunn tomorrow.

[Skybird]

But which team Pav?

Just so you know, if you flip scum I'll have a tough time believing you when we play together next.

[Skybird]

At least I voted right

Really? And why weren't you in here arguing for your choice? You barely added to the discussion.

[Skybird]

This was a great game! I had a lot of fun playing with everyone. Congrats Bell on a well played game!

[Skybird]

Good job Pav on loverizing 2 scum!

[Skybird]

Icebox had a role copy action and used it to get Pav's lover action.

[Skybird]

What game are you going to mod next ffery?

[Skybird]

That would be great. I'm going to be pretty busy with the play for the next 6 weeks or so but will have plenty of time after that.

[Skybird]

That would be great. I'm going to be pretty busy with the play for the next 6 weeks or so but will have plenty of time after that.

Bird I remember you mentioning the play some weeks ago. What's the show? I'm a theatre bug myself

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner Pav. The show is called The Cemetery Club and is a comedy about 3 widows and their responses to being alone.