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[Dunnstral]

Obligatory question here, what is your favorite Shakespeare play? (I'm assuming you all have one!)

Me, I love Midsummer, love it love it love it.

(No, this is not my way of tricking some of you into posting a lot to miss out on your coin bonus, nope not at all)

I bethink not this a valorous question to answer as it doest hint at our origins

[Dunnstral]

Thou hast an opportunity to earn one extra

gold coin

today. Be ye terse and it shall be thine. All in the Troupe who make fewer than 150 posts this game day shall earn it.

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I has't nay needeth f'r thy gold, and i shalt speaketh out one hundr'd times without rest 'gainst the evil yond tries to corrupt our hearts

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

[Dunnstral]

Vote: Galron

good vote

I beseech thee to pray pardon me wherefore thee bethink yond this is valorous

[Dunnstral]

I am just impressed with the verse and I think Juliet should make it to endgame for all the effort she's putting in

I bethink thee has't react'd in an exaggerat'd way towards juliet's efforts. The lady hast but writ a verse 'r two and thee has't scrambl'd f'r that lady favor, and madeth a point to alloweth everyone knoweth

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Juliet Capulet

[Dunnstral]

I dont think Gamma would tell her to antagonize me

The lady is a beast who is't cannot beest did contain by mere words, a wild animal who is't liveth off instinct and feeleth high-lone.

I bethink juliet is lacking thoughts, and the mistress is did treat like delicate mildew upon a spring leaf f'r their style.

the juni'r seemeth to beest afflict'd with darkness. Begone foul thing, from whither thee cameth.

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

[Dunnstral]

Begone beldams, playeth not tricks of the mind

[Dunnstral]

Oh bowser isn’t gamma

WHOEVER BOWSER HEAD THIS IS WANNA HEAR A JOKE?

No the joke is your play this game

Boom. Roasted.

VOTE: skybird

What the hell is happening here.

Wheme wagon is faltering but I don't see why, the voting / posting pattern is weird af.

Granted I don't know Wheme. And maybe given his posts there's something mechanical happening here. But he's null at absolute best

Their lips art sewn so has't they decre'd. And yet, what is this? i sense not the tug of fate upon their words

[Dunnstral]

LLD hasn't made a post of substance yet. It's all been naked votes. If she's got a case to be made, she'll make it surely.

I doth not fav'r this

Just gonna claim now. I'm poisoned, I die at the end of night 3.

I doth not knoweth wherefore thee claim'd

[Dunnstral]

Okay im hard claiming IC

prithee remove thy votes anon, this sir is of gentle character

Luke, I have suspected you for ages. You're acting like my suspicion of you is because of your suspicion of OTH which is false.

I don't like OTH being on the Wheme wagon but I don't find the Wheme wagon to be scumdriven just misguided.

if the Wheme wagon is not scumdriven, then wouldn't that mean my wagon is scumdriven?

No.

ok so what are the scum doing?

Apathetic sheepers

Name names.

Dunn DV JC Cephrir

Plus Lukewarm

thou art incorrect, mine own votes has't been mine own own, and if 't be true they haven't been then may i beest did strike with a ray of lightning from the heavens

[Dunnstral]

I am just impressed with the verse and I think Juliet should make it to endgame for all the effort she's putting in

I bethink thee has't react'd in an exaggerat'd way towards juliet's efforts. The lady hast but writ a verse 'r two and thee has't scrambl'd f'r that lady favor, and madeth a point to alloweth everyone knoweth

[Dunnstral]

If we are assuming Juliet is scum we should VOTE: Pavowski

[Dunnstral]

If we are assuming Juliet is scum we should VOTE: Pavowski

Based on?

Weird interactions with Juliet

[Dunnstral]

I am just impressed with the verse and I think Juliet should make it to endgame for all the effort she's putting in

I bethink thee has't react'd in an exaggerat'd way towards juliet's efforts. The lady hast but writ a verse 'r two and thee has't scrambl'd f'r that lady favor, and madeth a point to alloweth everyone knoweth

[Dunnstral]

That is a very very weak read on Dunn though. So if you got something more then "he hasn't done much" hit me with it

At this point it'd pretty much just be "put enough pressure on him that he actually does something", hence why I'd rather go with OtH.

It must be fun to grandstand rather than engage with me

[Dunnstral]

That is a very very weak read on Dunn though. So if you got something more then "he hasn't done much" hit me with it

At this point it'd pretty much just be "put enough pressure on him that he actually does something", hence why I'd rather go with OtH.

It must be fun to grandstand rather than engage with me

When you've barely done anything yourself and you've somehow homed in on me despite LLD only voting so far.

I was wondering who would rush to point that out.

Does this make you think anything

[Dunnstral]

Don't understand the wheme message. Why would he send FN to JC?

What do you mean?

[Dunnstral]

What I'm getting at is that I think Juliet was evil at heart.

-GE

Good point. So who was the party who wheme targetted?

Why is this what you've chosen to focus on, and why does it matter?

[Dunnstral]

How do you know JC self janitored?

[Dunnstral]

With Gamma's help, I've concluded that it implies that there were three kills.

How?

[Dunnstral]

wheme has to be town right ?Why is there no counterclaim to the receiving friencly neighbor?

Wheme is dead

[Dunnstral]

Lukewarm sums it up well, but it's unclear to me whether 1015 was also Juliet or not.

[Dunnstral]

if Galron thinks Wheme is town, what is he doing to find or pressure scum voting Wheme?

Thinking Wheme is town doesn't necessarily mean they think scum is voting for Wheme

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral is skeeving me out by lopping in excuses for me.

Where did I do this?

[Dunnstral]

I don't think it's correct to kill them here either way. It's worth getting another result or seeing scum shoot them for us.

I think I would rather kill Dunnstral

We agree then, im staying om dunn

You're right, probably better to elim me for no reason than to get the guy who visited the night kill

[Dunnstral]

Oh and the robbed player to boot, both at the same time. That's too much of a coincidence to let live.

VOTE: Galron

[Dunnstral]

You're right, probably better to elim me for no reason than to get the guy who visited the night kill

Literally no reason:

vote:Dunnstral

And "He hasn't done much":

let's talk about who we want to elim today

Dunn maybe? He hasn't done much

[Dunnstral]

hmmm

I'd say in general the odds of Galron choosing to peek at exactly both a player that was killed and a player that was robbed are really low and so I don't think it's still really likely that his claim is true or that he's town

however due to my role I will track him again tonight so if I live to D3 I can confirm it tomorrow, therefore I'm not sure if I'm fully opposed to letting him live today, but I want to think about it. @Galron, can you use this ability every night?

I can upgrade to rolecop if I have enough gold, and I can't use the comparing ability then.

Rolecop is not a stronger role than parity cop

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped

My what

[Dunnstral]

Since when has OTH thought I was "consistently scummy"?

They didn't mention this at all

[Dunnstral]

ok felt scummy why?

[Dunnstral]

And you don't like what I'm posting why?

[Dunnstral]

I doubt that his gold coins would go towards upgrading his powerful claim further rather than negating his downside which he should have with such a powerful role.

You know, the sticks and stones part of our roles?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunn

I feel Galron is probably scum, but I agree with the mechanical call more.

Why are you voting for me?

[Dunnstral]

Galron has no soft for Skybird being an inno check

Or any indication at all, up until the tracker is claimed

[Dunnstral]

HOLD IT!

Galron, why did you think Skybird was a possible kill?

-GE

Starting with 176 I thought she was kind of townie. It was essentially a crapshoot.

Who parity cops someone who can mech clear themselves with someone else who is towny?

Their targets don't make sense at all

[Dunnstral]

How is Wisdom so sure that Galron is town? This doesn't seem like a read they had before the tracker claim.

[Dunnstral]

A reread quenches some of the fire
Let us see what else shall transpire

VOTE: Cephrir

We have 36 hours left, if you're voting against the mechanically probable guilty, you'll need to do more than naked vote vanity wagons right now

[Dunnstral]

Why are you voting for me?

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn

, why was Skybird obvtown for you?
-GE

I never said this

[Dunnstral]

Friendly neighbor, day 4 ic, parity cop, tracker?

[Dunnstral]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87781 - Chromatic Ascension, Dunn was Knight Beige
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87638 - True Love
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=83971 - Forest Fire

some (semi-)recent samples of lurkscum Dunn
there could be others from games I didn't keep tabs on but it's hard to verify how his posting rate measures to each game without doing some fancy shit I lack the time for

-GE

I'm not lurking in the first 2 games, I'm town in the last game.

[Dunnstral]

The problem LLD is that you acknowledge Galron is probably town but still want to eliminate me when I'm negative association with Galron. So you're playing for the 10% and not the 90%, and you don't seem to have a reason to be doing that or to think it's me.

I think Gamma's meta point backfired and he is arguing against himself.

[Dunnstral]

I'm town in forest fire

[Dunnstral]

The problem LLD is that you acknowledge Galron is probably town but still want to eliminate me when I'm negative association with Galron. So you're playing for the 10% and not the 90%, and you don't seem to have a reason to be doing that or to think it's me.

I think Gamma's meta point backfired and he is arguing against himself.

Did you mean "probably scum"?

yes

[Dunnstral]

LLD can you explain why you've settled on OTH, Ceph, and Dunn as the names you'd lim today?

PEdit: I'd argue that the fact that the Galron vote has been so contested means we learn a lot regardless of his flip

~Spiffy

Honestly because

OTH/Galron/???

and

Ceph/Dunn/??? are my like, scum concepts rn.

From your point of view, if we want to follow your plan, it should make more sense to eliminate in the first grouping where Galron is scum, because you agree he is probably scum, rather than eliminate me who is likely not with Galron.

[Dunnstral]

His claimed ability to upgrade to rolecop doesn't make sense because parity cop is equal to if not a stronger role.

Pretty sure he said the upgrade is he gets the role of one of the players on top of the parity cop

No, he didn't:

hmmm

I'd say in general the odds of Galron choosing to peek at exactly both a player that was killed and a player that was robbed are really low and so I don't think it's still really likely that his claim is true or that he's town

however due to my role I will track him again tonight so if I live to D3 I can confirm it tomorrow, therefore I'm not sure if I'm fully opposed to letting him live today, but I want to think about it. @Galron, can you use this ability every night?

I can upgrade to rolecop if I have enough gold, and I can't use the comparing ability then.

Stop making things up to defend him

[Dunnstral]

lurk Dunn = town Dunn.

No. Dunn lurks as scum.

This

A lawyer who ignores evidence, that's a new one.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunn

I feel Galron is probably scum, but I agree with the mechanical call more.

This vote is still unexplained, and you claim to still think Galron is probably scum, so when did that shift to thinking I'm scum?

[Dunnstral]

Hey, so.
Like.
I got vanilla'd
and I'm no longer loverized to galron.

-Bell

This is weird because Galron could have been made vanilla instead.

[Dunnstral]

Maybe they mixed up the flavor and I was supposed to be loverized to the player I visited but she slapped me with Galron instead.

-Bell

But you're vanilla now?

[Dunnstral]

It sounds like your role turned yourself vanilla for targeting wrong

[Dunnstral]

Discussing what happened with Icebox isn't going to change the elimination for today, we can talk about it tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

I’m not saying I would have pulled off the wagon permanently, but you just cut discussion short presumably knowing what you were doing. That’s a major fucking problem for me.

-GE

Don't forget about the 6 hour twilight phase

[Dunnstral]

I actually thought I'd be able to go deep this game, but I get scum read as town with many in this group all the time. Several of you should know better.

Shouldn't have killed Wheme then

[Dunnstral]

For real though, your claimed abilities don't add up at all so I don't believe that you are town.

And yes I do think that everybody has a sticks and stones passive that is negative, which you never claimed.

[Dunnstral]

I actually thought I'd be able to go deep this game, but I get scum read as town with many in this group all the time. Several of you should know better.

Shouldn't have killed Wheme then

You should have listened to me because that did not fucking happen.

You're right, I should have voted for myself for no reason like you.

[Dunnstral]

like you.

And Wisdom/Titus/LLD

[Dunnstral]

For real though, your claimed abilities don't add up at all so I don't believe that you are town.

And yes I do think that everybody has a sticks and stones passive that is negative, which you never claimed.

For the millionth time, I was asked about one quote from one ability. Get that straight.

Rolecop is not an upgrade for Parity cop.

So far from what I've seen from Wheme and the sample role pm, and from my own role, sticks and stones has always been a negative effect, and the gold spend ability has always been used to remove or lessen a part of the negative effect.

If I'm wrong about that last part nobody needs to claim their roles now, just in case.

[Dunnstral]

I actually thought I'd be able to go deep this game, but I get scum read as town with many in this group all the time. Several of you should know better.

Shouldn't have killed Wheme then

You should have listened to me because that did not fucking happen.

You're right, I should have voted for myself for no reason like you.

I didn't vote for myself. I'm not going to catfight you on this. You're on ignore.

I meant you voted me for no reason.

[Dunnstral]

Okay, okay calm down you two. Be excellent to each other. We all learned something today.
I have no idea what I learned though.

-Bell

If you're talking about me, I am calm. Don't tie me into Galron's emotional (?) posting.

[Dunnstral]

My sticks and stones thing says: "You shall suffer none."

lolwut
Also still think Dunn is scum

-GE

I believe Galron is the type to twilight troll so I’m not assuming he’s town just yet

-GE

[Dunnstral]

You should probably not be quoting directly from your role pm with quotation marks and everything :/

It doesn't actually say that, but he shouldn't pretend to quote regardless

[Dunnstral]

There are likely abilities that activate in twilight so every scum has to act like they are town.

[Dunnstral]

I know that role as Governor

[Dunnstral]

I Don't know wisdom well but I think if he were scum he'd be digging into someone.

GL & Wisdom, lock town.

Cool

[Dunnstral]

If you wanna talk about why I'm doing this, Spiffeh, go right ahead.

But you cannot lead a Galron death overtop of me this way. It literally won't happen. If you want a Galron death, you're gonna need to talk with me and get me to relent on my position.

[Dunnstral]

Though I think it being so short in this game is kinda silly

The dawn is short too but 3 crier messages got crammed in there. So there are definitely some abilities that interact with that stuff. Twilight maybe less so since it also serves as a set time to talk after a hammer.

[Dunnstral]

83 is understandable to me but I don't think it is proper grammar so you get a pass from me.

I believe it would have been correct to say: I don't care if Juliet is scum

or not

,

[Dunnstral]

I can choose two players to see if they're in the same troupe. I've already told you my past results. If I collect 6 gold pieces I can upgrade it to see what one of the players roles is.

@Dunn

I can upgrade to rolecop if I have enough gold, and I can't use the comparing ability then.

You're right but he claims the opposite later too

[Dunnstral]

I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:

Hey, this is interesting.

It means Titus was likely robbed by scum unless she is lying, making her more likely to be town.

It also means the mafia team thought that a townie would step forward and claim to have robbed skybird. I'm specifically thinking about this post:

VOTE: Dunnstral
I’m feeling like the points against Galron aren’t enough to condemn him when his claim could do some good imo
Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped
marci also sus ceph and I’m lean town on him but also a bit tbd

-GE

Also, OTH hard tmi'd yesterday with these posts:

the thing with why I initially asked for ability flavor was that I felt galron could be a scum invest role who checked skybird and killed wheme, and wanted to see if galron's flavor felt in line with where I'd expect a the scum invest to come from in the flavor

-GE

Why are you jumping to an invest role, when we know that skybird has already claimed that their gold was stolen?

The wikipedia article I read said Rosencrantz and Guildenstern were sent to keep tabs on Hamlet, that sounds like it could be written as a watcher

-GE

1674 and the nested 1667. At the time we believed that Galron stole gold from skybird, and had no reason to think otherwise. OTH jumped to investigative to try to appear knowledgeable but it actually contradicts what we thought we knew at the time to be thinking like this.

VOTE: Off The Hook

[Dunnstral]

I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:

wait, wut?

Mafia apparently can steal 2 gold, but you were not one of those?

I thought only you and titus claimed to be stolen from, and therefore you were both confirmed town as the mafia targets

Galron's other ability which got tracked to Skybird was an investigative ability, so skybird is still town

[Dunnstral]

It's a 2 shot ability so maybe they didn't use it. Titus isn't 100% confirmed either since she could simply be lying, but I think it is likely she was stolen from.

[Dunnstral]

How did the crier use post tags when the thread was locked?

The way that I read it was that each shot was 2 steals

I read it as a single 2 gold steal that can be used twice

[Dunnstral]

Scratch that, they're not post tags

[Dunnstral]

By the way, mafia going straight for guiltylion and guiltylion not being protected makes me think that mafia have a strongman ability they decided to use here

[Dunnstral]

Which brings me back to this:

I want to clear one thing up as we get started today. I mis-read the pm from the mod and I didn't get robbed night 1. I clarified meaning with the mod last night. :oops:

Hey, this is interesting.

It means Titus was likely robbed by scum unless she is lying, making her more likely to be town.

It also means the mafia team thought that a townie would step forward and claim to have robbed skybird. I'm specifically thinking about this post:

VOTE: Dunnstral
I’m feeling like the points against Galron aren’t enough to condemn him when his claim could do some good imo
Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped
marci also sus ceph and I’m lean town on him but also a bit tbd

-GE

Also, OTH hard tmi'd yesterday with these posts:

the thing with why I initially asked for ability flavor was that I felt galron could be a scum invest role who checked skybird and killed wheme, and wanted to see if galron's flavor felt in line with where I'd expect a the scum invest to come from in the flavor

-GE

Why are you jumping to an invest role, when we know that skybird has already claimed that their gold was stolen?

The wikipedia article I read said Rosencrantz and Guildenstern were sent to keep tabs on Hamlet, that sounds like it could be written as a watcher

-GE

1674 and the nested 1667. At the time we believed that Galron stole gold from skybird, and had no reason to think otherwise. OTH jumped to investigative to try to appear knowledgeable but it actually contradicts what we thought we knew at the time to be thinking like this.

VOTE: Off The Hook

[Dunnstral]

I believe the claim

I don't. The claimed targets, the lack of understanding the role, the lack of the word "parity cop" anywhere in his explanation and the general method of claim by pieces is...

It reads like someone else wrote the fake claim for them, as one of the only ways to cover the tracked action.

Lightning strikes twice?

[Dunnstral]

Why did you vote for Luke at the start of the day, and why do you need to target Cephrir? And why were you suspecting Cephrir earlier if you need to target them?

[Dunnstral]

I believe the claim

I don't. The claimed targets, the lack of understanding the role, the lack of the word "parity cop" anywhere in his explanation and the general method of claim by pieces is...

It reads like someone else wrote the fake claim for them, as one of the only ways to cover the tracked action.

Lightning strikes twice?

?

I'm talking about the way OTH is going about their claim showing similarities to the way Galron went about their claim

[Dunnstral]

money thingy: if we target town > we dont die, but our target dies.

Why would you pay to make your ability worse?

[Dunnstral]

slings and arrows: if we target town, we die instead

And this isn't really a downside

[Dunnstral]

And why didn't you use your role night 1?

[Dunnstral]

BELL HOW TF DID U MAKE UR SONNET IM STRUGGLING SO MUCH IT TURNED INTO A "friendship is power" THEME BY ACCIDENT :cry: :cry:

Why are you attempting to get more gold?

[Dunnstral]

You cannot target the same player for steal and kill in a single night.

Since skybird didnt get stolen from and didnt receive a dialogue
What did galron target her with
When i saw the flip I assumed galron sent the dialogue to wheme since nobody else claimed to receive it

In post 1772 Skybird claims to have received a message. This matches up with Galron's role, which also gave Galron a random snippet from Skybird's flavor.

[Dunnstral]

I was in a conftown spot on Skybird until his revelation at break of day here, although whether that mechanically changes anything may be moot. I don't see a world in which scum!Sky comes clean on that one.

The tracker still saw galron target skybird with their investigative ability

[Dunnstral]

I want to hear more from LLD

[Dunnstral]

Ceph didn't feel like scum to me. What are the reasons to suspect their slot today, after the Galron flip?

I don't think leaving OTH alive gives us much. Also, are we going to fall for scum needing 1 more night to use their actions every time they fake claim?

Maybe they can spend gold coins to kill an extra person once?

[Dunnstral]

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies?

You're right, that would be weird

[Dunnstral]

Did you guys read what I said

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies

Why not though?

It does generally make a scumbuddy less likely to be eliminated. Loverising two town is like getting an extra kill, but so is loverizing a buddy and town in the event that the buddy is eliminated. Plus it's less suspicious for Galron to do that?

I agree that overally loverizing scum+town has less scum likelihood than loverizing town+town, but I still think that the way Pav went about it is suspicious and not consistent with a town approach.

Also there are limited scum options from my perspective and Pav is still a reasonably likely one.
I would totally vote Enchant instead if you think though.

I think you are right and loverizing town and scum as scum isn't as big of a deal as we were thinking

[Dunnstral]

I know people have pretty much been ignoring CoF because she will die tonight, supposedly. But do we have any confirmation of this? I've been looking at her iso and I'm not seeing much that says town to me. The claim was weird. What are the chances she is scum?

We're at day 3 already anyway, I don't see much sense in looking at CoF before tomorrow if they are still alive

[Dunnstral]

Why are we letting OTH live. There's like 2 or 3 claims on the floor that are pretty much: "Just let me live for a while and I'll be useful, I promise"

I'm not sure but there can be no excuses if they don't die tonight

[Dunnstral]

I will be around before the deadline if needed

[Dunnstral]

I thought you were dying?

[Dunnstral]

If this flips town please consider Titus tomorrow.

I think Titus got her gold taken by scum, which would make her town

[Dunnstral]

Nevermind, I forgot that you claimed to still be able to talk anyway

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Child of Fairies

[Dunnstral]

Who is Ariel on the vote count?

[Dunnstral]

Have people been blocking me
Nobody has bought any potion

You are not in the watcher results

[Dunnstral]

I lied about my gold ability, it extends the duration of one of my dreams for an extra cycle. So nobody's dying tonight either.

Why didn't you do this combo the night that gl was dying?

[Dunnstral]

ah, okay. I'm a neighbourhood of one, so anybody else claiming tempest characters is lying.

I should die tonight, but I haven't had a thing about gold coins come up for me yet, so I might be able to block it tonight?

Can you expound on this?

Do you not know what your gold ability does?

Do you have enough gold to use your gold ability?

@Child of Fairies, did you ever answer this?

Bringing this to current page

Been busy dealing with a huge storm, so:

my gold ability is an unknown that costs four coins. I won't know what it does until I buy it, probably. I'm one sonnet away from having enough, so I'm going to spend it tonight and see what happens.

How much gold did you have when you posted this?

[Dunnstral]

Town global nightkill roleblock that can be extended to two nights doesn't sound like it is within the scope of power for a real role

[Dunnstral]

Does anyone know who the fuck Ariel is?

We know that the neighborhoods that formed are based off of flavor

[Dunnstral]

Why don't we keep CoF alive one more day to stop an NK?

We still have Pav and Dunn.

?

[Dunnstral]

Let me help you out:

It's pretty obviously not me, and the only people who think it is me are Gamma who spent all of yesterday getting pushed for having bad reads, and yourself who still hasn't been able to explain why you scumread me from over a thousand posts ago. The last time you mentioned your read on me I was "really likely town" in 2263, and now you've name dropped me like I'm in the poe.

[Dunnstral]

I can use 4 gold to reuse the last ability I used.

Can you lay out how much gold you've had each night and how much gold you have right now. Because I don't think it adds up with when you are using this ability.

[Dunnstral]

I dont townread cof

He's patently town. You were wrong yesterday. I've been right the whole time. Why not listen to me?

You have not been right the whole time, you tried to save Galron by voting me out without explaining why, but town forced a strong majority regardless with Wheme's dead vote not voing but still needing an extra vote to eliminate

[Dunnstral]

I can see it being two of CoF/Enchant/Pav. I have you as likely town because of the gold thing, not the dead chat thing. I don't understand how you got to Wisdom cleared. CoF's claim does not make them clear.

[Dunnstral]

LLD is clear because of OTH's role

[Dunnstral]

Also the extra vote comes from the play that only CoF is a part of, and they're not acknowledging it

So that seems pretty suspicious

[Dunnstral]

I don't think scum wisdom ever gives gl the option of posting after his death, when gl had claimed tracker and they were killing gl to stop the tracker results. Like killing him, but also letting him give another result seems counterproductive.

(I know that he could not track any one else that night, but he claimed that he could)

I think this is pretty towny though, if this is what you meant

The word awake does not imply to me anything about keeping people from dying. - And we have already had 2 people claim abilities that could have been responsible for stopping the night kill.

Who claimed this besides yourself and CoF?

[Dunnstral]

I don't think CoF's gold adds up with when they are saying they are using actions.

CoF, did you start with 1 gold, and even if not, couldn't you use your ability 1 night earlier? Why does the neighborhood thing cost 5 coins?

[Dunnstral]

My role:

I'm Banquo
I'm the crier, I can send a message during the dawn phase
If I die I can continue to send a message during each dawn phase (not just the night after)
My sticks and stones ability is that I can't be protected from dying at night
It costs 5 gold to remove that part (which I have bought)

[Dunnstral]

My role:

I'm Banquo
I'm the crier, I can send a message during the dawn phase
If I die I can continue to send a message during each dawn phase (not just the night after)
My sticks and stones ability is that I can't be protected from dying at night
It costs 5 gold to remove that part (which I have bought)

Was there a reason you originally claimed to only do one dying message, a Final Monologue, instead of this?

I added the claim to soft cc Juliet, who I believed was mafia for having a similar but lesser role. My full claim was something that town didn't need to know, and framing it as a final monologue rather than me returning as a ghost obfuscates my character flavor.

[Dunnstral]

I don't know where the Ariel vote comes from, unless I did that and the killblock was just coincidental. The fact that both the nightkill and oth's vigilante kill seemingly failed should be something to keep in mind, though?

and again, what reason would scum!me have to change my claim to something completely unbelievable like this?

Can you explain your gold situation each night, including how much you started with and when you could first activate your gold ability.

I don't believe that you created an Ariel vote but weren't informed that you could do anything with it.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Pavovski

test vote, I want to see what happens with the Ariel vote if I vote. If I didn't block the kill and I'm just dumb, welp.

I started with 1 coin, got a second for coming in with under 150 posts today, got a third at the end of day two, and a fourth at the end of day 3.

Why did you post this on day 3:

Been busy dealing with a huge storm, so:

my gold ability is an unknown that costs four coins. I won't know what it does until I buy it, probably. I'm one sonnet away from having enough, so I'm going to spend it tonight and see what happens.

[Dunnstral]

You should have had 3 gold coins at the end of day 1, no?

[Dunnstral]

Thought about fakeclaim for long, didn't made up anything so that's it.

???

[Dunnstral]

I'd prefer to get Child of Fairies as I think the double vote has to be theirs and their gold doesn't line up, along with their role claim not really making sense, all adding up to them being probably not town

[Dunnstral]

Mechanics aside this feels like town Titus to me

[Dunnstral]

I don't disagree with voting Enchant, I just think CoF has a higher chance of flipping scum. I can vote Enchant if we're not going to flip, I'm not sure how Luke is seeing CoF as town when I feel their are parts of their claim that doesnt' add up.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Enchant

[Dunnstral]

I don't have enough coins to buy a potion.

[Dunnstral]

Would ffery put us into twilight if the game were over?

[Dunnstral]

You need to lim pav in the above because he can lie, but sure

[Dunnstral]

What are all the roles, again?

[Dunnstral]

I believe Skybird is clear because she was confirmed to be targeted by scum!Galron on Night 1.

~Spiffy

Yes, tracker saw galron use an investigative role there. They also played a big part in Galron being eliminated.

[Dunnstral]

How much gold do you have and how much gold do you need for your ability?

-Bell

And make myself a target for a scum pickpocket? Ha, good sirrah, thou wouldst like that too well!

I have six coins. It's not a question of affording my skill, it's a question of whether it becomes available for purchase. Right now, it is not "for sale" that I am aware of.

Not that I'm itching to loverize anybody right this minute.

[Dunnstral]

They say it's not available for purchase

[Dunnstral]

My role:

I'm Banquo
I'm the crier, I can send a message during the dawn phase
If I die I can continue to send a message during each dawn phase (not just the night after)
My sticks and stones ability is that I can't be protected from dying at night
It costs 5 gold to remove that part (which I have bought)

[Dunnstral]

By the way, we know that roles are tied to flavor, including this scum crier. We know what play everyone is from because of CoF's ability.

[Dunnstral]

I think the last scum is Bowser Jr.

[Dunnstral]

scum loverizer

[Dunnstral]

Who is post restricted today?

[Dunnstral]

What Macbeth character is both a crier and a loverizer?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, why?

I think that scum pav waits until the end to do the lover kill to avoid suspicion, and that bowser jr. is bluffing

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, how many scum do you think are left?

1

[Dunnstral]

What are we bluffing about?

~Spiffy

That it's fine if we eliminate you

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn: Why aren't you scum?

Galron was fishing for what my gold did

[Dunnstral]

So real life is intruding on my game time tonight. I live in Wisconsin and we have some big storms going through.

But back to the game.

Dunn, why Bowser and not Pavowski?

I think I just talked about this, the timing of the lover ability doesn't feel like it would come from pav, I didn't like the way Bowser was thinking that scum could do that move again tonight when that doesn't really make sense either. And it feels like they are bluffing/grandstanding today.

[Dunnstral]

@Dunnstrall, where do you see Galron trying to figure out your role?

-Bell

Spoiler:

Thou hast an opportunity to earn one extra

gold coin

today. Be ye terse and it shall be thine. All in the Troupe who make fewer than 150 posts this game day shall earn it.

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I has't nay needeth f'r thy gold, and i shalt speaketh out one hundr'd times without rest 'gainst the evil yond tries to corrupt our hearts

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

Dunn,

What is your position regarding the gold coins?

Begone beldams, playeth not tricks of the mind

Who are you calling witches here? Bowser?

[Dunnstral]

second one's a stretch.

Consider this part of the mafia role pm:

While [REDACTED] both live, your team has the factional ability to steal up to

2 gold coins

from another player at night. This ability counts as a visit to the player you steal from. You must specify who performs the heist. Together, you decide how you wish to distribute these ill gotten gains.

We don't know if [Redacted] is part of the mafia or part of the town

[Dunnstral]

At least I voted right

[Dunnstral]

What do those links have to do with this game?

[Dunnstral]

It's proven that I'm part of the play 'macbeth' due to me being in aneighborhood with Titus and Cephrir/Enchant

[Dunnstral]

It's interesting, why did you make a huge fake claim that could fall apart at any moment. Instead of something more boring?

-Bell

I had an investigative guilty on me in that game so I tried to claim in a way that would cover my bases

Q. Did you not use your crier ability today Dunnstral?

-Bell

I was asleep for the whole dawn phase

[Dunnstral]

I'm sure I could have tried to submit in advance, but I don't have anything to say with the crier anyway, and it doesn't even happen during the same phase as the nightkill, nor are scum prevented from using multiple abilities

[Dunnstral]

Anyways, there are reasons to think I'm town from the way scum played and reasons to think Bowser is scum. They were defending Cephrir, so says LLD. I don't think it's fair to say bowser is obvtown when it's just their end of game AtE and social maneuvering (don't they have a history of doing this?) Like, looking back at the rest of the game, there isn't any reason to think they are town.

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

Also I mentioned before that my slings and arrows was that I started the game macho, if that matters.

And... CoF did lie about their gold, for some reason, I wasn't wrong to push there. I can go over that again if needed, otherwise I've mostly pushed mafia this game, even if it was soft pushes at times

[Dunnstral]

And yeah, they hit me with their post restriction last night

[Dunnstral]

Your signing bonus for joining the Globe Theatre Troupe is:

1 gold coin

, and the Globe Theatre will pay you

1 gold coin

at the end of each game day.

CoF gets their first gold coin at the start of the game. They get a second gold coin at the end of day 1, and a third gold coin for having less than 150 posts, as per the bonus at the start of the game:

Spoiler: Bonus Coin

Thou hast an opportunity to earn one extra

gold coin

today. Be ye terse and it shall be thine. All in the Troupe who make fewer than 150 posts this game day shall earn it.

I started with 1 coin, got a second for coming in with under 150 posts today, got a third at the end of day two, and a fourth at the end of day 3.

This is incorrect. CoF has 3 gold coins at the end of day 1 and gain their 4th at the end of day 2, as per the math above. On top of that, the scum role that steals coins steals 2 coins, not just 1. This is what I meant when I said their gold doesn't line up. I even ask them why they didn't use their ability a night earlier.

[Dunnstral]

I assumed they were confused about how much gold they should have had after the scum team redistributed their gold internally for one of their abilities

[Dunnstral]

I followed the post restriction

[Dunnstral]

What kind of game has a post-restricter that steals votes + 1 shot-loverizer or something anyway.

-Bell

Let's flip this

If Bowser is town, their only ability is the post restriction

[Dunnstral]

I also have the ability to continue sending messages even when I'm dead

[Dunnstral]

plus I was macho

[Dunnstral]

At least limlo didn't drag on

[Dunnstral]

What happened with CoF's gold coins?