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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:51 am

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Hi

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Post Post #180 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:35 am

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In post 71, Juliet Capulet wrote:
My Cephrir, you inspire me to write.
How I hate the way you lie and attack,
Invading my mind day and through the night,
Always dreaming about the cold push back.

Let me compare you to a wild wolfcub?
You are more cruel, loathsome and scary.
Dark storms whip the twiglets of October,
And autumntime has the fiduciary.

How do I hate you? Let me count the ways.
I hate your bold attitude, eyes and legs.
Thinking of your deadly eyes fills my days.
My hate for you is the nocturnal eggs.

Now I must away with a benchmark heart,
Remember my old words whilst we're apart.


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The expense of spirit in a waste of shame
Is lust in action: and till action, lust
Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
Enjoyed no sooner but despised straight;
Past reason hunted; and no sooner had,
Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait,
On purpose laid to make the taker mad.
Mad in pursuit and in possession so;
Had, having, and in quest to have extreme;
A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
Before, a joy proposed; behind a dream.
All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.


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Post Post #181 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:49 am

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OTH town, pav probably town, DV adorable (this isn't a townread <3), think i liked a TA post at some point

VOTE: whemestar because it's the hippest trend and i'm not finding anything particularly compelling
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Post Post #186 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 183, GuiltyLion wrote:Ceph & Bowser Jr, can you give me a reason why you're townreading the Gamma/Marci hydra? doesn't have to be a long explanation or anything but I really don't feel any townvibes from either of them yet and I'm wondering what I'm missing
marci is posting and isn't obvscum
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Post Post #291 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:44 am

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Wtf dont attack daddy bowser's good name like this
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Post Post #293 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:48 am

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Unless GuiltyLion is a spicy townread, no
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Post Post #296 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:12 am

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Oh, you aren't daddy bowser, you're baby bowser. I was shitposting

I was confused by the votes on you until DV explained. I'm not especially scumreading you either, but I'm fine with it now
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Post Post #306 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:52 am

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actually, upon review, i'd be game to help you with that.

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Post Post #335 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 323, Icebox wrote:I'd say COF and Skybird has scum in it.
is there any particular reason why this is phrased as though the two are connected in some way
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Post Post #372 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:24 pm

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In post 337, Icebox wrote:
In post 335, Cephrir wrote:
In post 323, Icebox wrote:I'd say COF and Skybird has scum in it.
is there any particular reason why this is phrased as though the two are connected in some way
Nope, unintended
Out of all the questions you could've asked anyone, why this one?
-Bell
Dunno. I can't control what strikes me as worthy of prodding. I'm currently mildly scumreading COF so anything to do with them is a little more interesting?
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Post Post #373 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:25 pm

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In post 343, Bowser Jr. wrote:Btw it is actually embarrassing for the players on our wagon familiar with notty (such as Bell, Dunn, LLD) to be misreading him here if they're Town

He is objectively very obviously Town and you should all be ashamed of yourselves

I am obviously Town too but tend to get misread early so it's less offensive to scum read me

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Post Post #376 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:38 pm

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Seems like it didnt count

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Post Post #397 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:57 am

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In post 383, Bowser Jr. wrote:Looking at the bolded, can you explain why you've defaulted to "this is why scum!Spiffy would interact with me this way" instead of "since I haven't played with Spiffy before this is NAI overall"? If I haven't played with you before, it would stand to reason that as either alignment I am unfamiliar with you and could react this way as Town or Scum?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:59 am

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This post cant decide if it thinks DV is scum or not either and your best defense is self meta

Idk I'm not really a fan
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Post Post #465 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:03 pm

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cases may be scummy (debatable imo), but reasons aren't!

444 did make me want to move my vote anywhere else, though.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:12 pm

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what has happened that's got you tired, galron?
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Post Post #472 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:13 pm

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In post 470, Child of Fairies wrote:Reread the isos for the people initially on the wheme wagon and I can't shake the feeling that it wasn't an entirely town push. The whole thing felt pretty... convenient? No real effort to sort, just piling votes on a guy. None of the people on the wagon really interact with him much, and that just kinda rubs me the wrong way.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:19 pm

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In post 477, Child of Fairies wrote:Just gonna claim now. I'm poisoned, I die at the end of night 3.
do you know of any way to prevent this?
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Post Post #490 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:04 pm

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Idk that I'm convinced by the claim but I might be willing to wait and see what happens night 3
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Post Post #512 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:00 am

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Hi DV! Can I help you?
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Post Post #522 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:22 pm

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In post 515, DeasVail wrote:
In post 512, Cephrir wrote:Hi DV! Can I help you?
That depends!
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Post Post #531 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 530, DeasVail wrote:I kind of like Skybird's Icebox read. Icebox has sort of been on my radar more as well since my previously expressed reads.
I don't! I doubt think enough has happened to warrant an expectation that anyone would have shifted their reads. I feel like the accusation as they put it could be leveled at practically anyone. What merit do you see here? And yes I am asking you to explain someone else's read.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:42 pm

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In post 533, Off The Hook wrote:I also think “marci isn’t flaming obvscum so she’s town” is honestly a rather disrespectful way to be reading her. Maybe your read is more nuanced than that but Cephrir is openly saying he thinks that.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 562, Skybird wrote:We have 23 pages of material to look through. You don't think that'll is enough to start developing reads? As far as shifting reads DV has gone from slightly scum reading me to null back to scum reading me.

Icebox has enough posts that I would think to see developing reads from them.
having reads, sure, although this game has been a little boring for me so far and i personally don't have many. changing reads, idk, hard for me to feel like that's reasonable when i haven't even finished developing initial reads yet
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Post Post #564 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:56 am

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VOTE: LLD
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Post Post #583 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:00 am

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In post 579, Skybird wrote:I take it this is your suspect list?
In post 557, Tamora's Angel wrote:Dunn DV JC Cephrir
If this is a suspect list I definitely agree on JC. I still see nothing happening and she's barely playing the game.

Dunn - don't know yet. He's not hitting my radar so he's further down my sort list.

DV - still processing him, though I'm leaning more town on him.

Cephrir - I haven't gotten much from him either. Further investigation required on my part.

Lukewarm - His posting has be weird. I don't believe I've played with him before so I don't know if this is just his playing style or something that could be indicating alignment. Another one I need to look at more.

From your list, who would you choose to be the D1 lim and why?

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Post Post #615 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:49 am

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I dont have a very interesting reason for my vote, I just dont have anywhere I feel really good about putting it and I was hoping to get her to do more
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Post Post #630 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:56 am

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In post 619, Tamora's Angel wrote:
In post 615, Cephrir wrote:I dont have a very interesting reason for my vote, I just dont have anywhere I feel really good about putting it and I was hoping to get her to do more
This "head" of LLD for lack of a better word is not going to do that. We need to accept them as they are. This means looking at the timing of their votes.
She has not expressly stated that and did post words once, so I'm not 100% sure this is true and would like to find out.
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Post Post #679 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:32 am

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I'm here but I have a lot of stress going on right now and am struggling to care. Sorry
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Post Post #683 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:51 am

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Ok

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Post Post #689 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:40 am

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hard to have resistance to whemestar wagon when only 5 players have posted in the time it became serious and one of them, you, is providing resistance
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Post Post #783 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 768, Lukewarm wrote:I think I am good with either a JC or a wheme elim, and just people who are off both wagons should pick a side so we can see where the chip fall.
I agree, and I think you are town so I may just sheep you today
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Post Post #784 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:05 pm

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Assuming its onto one of those two anyway
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In post 787, Off The Hook wrote:ur so so confident im scum right...? so whos my team then
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In post 832, WhemeStar wrote:I am happy being todays vote if that means day 2 you follow
me onto skybird or whoever else I decide
??? you don't even have strong reads enough to have a person in mind for this deal so why do you want this
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Post Post #848 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 844, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 843, Cephrir wrote:
In post 832, WhemeStar wrote:I am happy being todays vote if that means day 2 you follow
me onto skybird or whoever else I decide
??? you don't even have strong reads enough to have a person in mind for this deal so why do you want this
Because having power is fun
do you actually think people will sheep you even if you're dead town

this literally never happens
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i am starting to think the tone/approach marci is taking to luke may be scum indicative, but i'm not sure
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Post Post #857 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:32 am

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In post 855, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 853, Cephrir wrote:i am starting to think the tone/approach marci is taking to luke may be scum indicative, but i'm not sure
explain (:

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The bit in your last post with the capslock, kinda makes it seem like you're more interested in pleasing him specifically than just... doing town stuff
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Post Post #906 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:07 pm

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im good with letting wheme go today after that... whatever it was

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Post Post #987 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:02 pm

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I feel bad for not being dashing enough now.
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Post Post #993 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:44 pm

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the thread is still open?
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Post Post #995 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:46 pm

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oh. okay.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #42) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:47 pm

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Why is the deadline 5 days?

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Post Post #1023 (isolation #43) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:49 pm

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Maybe Juliet was half of a beloved princess.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #44) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 1:51 pm

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I was wondering who would rush to point that out.
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #45) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:16 pm

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I'm hesitant to act based on an assumption about Juliet's alignment

I would like to request we not all vomit our roles into the thread before it becomes more than a minor problem
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #46) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:36 pm

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i don't think anyone besides you can decide what constitutes "have to" here
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #47) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:04 pm

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In post 1103, Dunnstral wrote:Does this make you think anything
if juliet is scum, it could mildly increase OTH's equity. certainly possible that they just were paying attention. after all, i was.

it's not terribly important and i kind of think they're scum regardless
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #48) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:05 pm

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In post 1103, Dunnstral wrote:When you've barely done anything yourself and you've somehow homed in on me despite LLD only voting so far.
u mad? :P
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 1101, Off The Hook wrote:Also, I’m gonna guess Wheme’s reads weren’t very good for what he did give
?

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Post Post #1109 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:58 pm

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In post 1107, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1104, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1103, Dunnstral wrote:Does this make you think anything
if juliet is scum, it could mildly increase OTH's equity. certainly possible that they just were paying attention. after all, i was.

it's not terribly important and i kind of think they're scum regardless
what changed..?
before u were a bit uncertain but today phase it seems like ur more confident in oth = scum : P

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Post Post #1189 (isolation #51) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 1177, Galron wrote:
In post 1175, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1173, Galron wrote:With Gamma's help, I've concluded that it implies that there were three kills.
How?
OTH pointed out that the note said both that jc was inherently evil and that the voice from offstage referred to wheme in the 3d person.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:32 pm

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In post 1182, Galron wrote:I don't think the crier, whoever that is, is town. The post makes no sense. And if it isn't from town, it would be from who?
what doesn't make sense
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #53) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 1187, Child of Fairies wrote:
In post 1172, Dunnstral wrote:How do you know JC self janitored?
Because there's no other sensible way for a day 1 elim to be redacted?
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #54) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:33 pm

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there's like, literally a twilight phase
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #55) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:34 pm

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i don't know?
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #56) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:37 pm

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In post 1196, Galron wrote:Then why does it say that JC received the FN
it doesn't?
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #57) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:38 pm

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because it's true??????
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #58) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:51 pm

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In post 1205, Galron wrote:Or that was just " a voice from offstage and not neccessarily the crier"
it's... the crier... ????
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #59) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:54 pm

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why do you think the crier can't be the real recipient i am so confused

pedit because they did?????
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:55 pm

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this conversation is a complete waste of time
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:58 am

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Post Post #1281 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:57 am

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meh? i had the ability to loverize myself to someone as town once. i used it as a vig. this is just a better version of that, no?
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #63) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:02 am

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Well, not that much point in discussing it, we're going to find out soon.
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #64) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:28 am

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i mean if he has a good claim we can discuss not killing him idk what the concern is with some votes
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #65) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:18 pm

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I think we should probably just kill this. Yes, he did produce, like, the only thing you can claim in this scenario. I don't know that I loved the delivery of it.
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Post Post #1335 (isolation #66) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:19 pm

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But I guess GL's plan isn't horrible either.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #67) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:24 pm

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i failed to read the second half of 1340

this is scum
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #68) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 1397, Off The Hook wrote:I find it both comedic and bothersome Luke thinks me and marci would sync this poorly if we’re scum
He keeps bitching about our reads but consistently fails to keep track of which head is posting what stances. Atp it’s starting to come off as willful ignorance (read: scummy behavior)

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Post Post #1424 (isolation #69) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:49 pm

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yeah how dare you have reads tbh
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Post Post #1472 (isolation #70) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:58 am

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I wouldnt say I hate scum, I am a bit sick of rolling it at the moment though

I have a lot going on in my life right now and that is making my effort across games low. I dont get frustrated in every town game, it's just happened a bit lately. See dead silence, and chromatic ascension, for examples of chill town me. I also am not going to get frustrated until something frustrating is happening
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Post Post #1481 (isolation #71) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:12 am

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In post 1478, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1454, Bowser Jr. wrote:I think cephrirs post conveys he doesn’t give a fuck this game, a typically town-Cephrir trait. He sounds nothing like bloodstained.

Of the three, he’s the only one I’m against for reasons that aren’t “there’s a person tracked to TWO people who have had malicious actions against them”
It feels like Ceph is doing the minimum amount possible to appear engaged and town, and I don't get the sense of there being a town-mind behind Ceph's posts trying to solve the game. He's just saying things.
i don't know how i gave off the impression that i am engaged!
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #72) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:09 am

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psh, if i were scum i'd have more
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #73) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:37 pm

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In post 1525, Icebox wrote:I can't really tell if Cephrir is scum because I swear he posts different each game.

-Bell
this does more to inflate my ego than you might expect

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Post Post #1558 (isolation #74) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:39 pm

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In post 1548, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1544, Icebox wrote:Parity cop huh.
I'm not actually sure what to suggest there,
I guess Guiltylion since he's putting in too much effort to be scum here probably and just whoever everyone desperately wants sorted as the other.
That list is distressingly long.
I would say us but we should self-resolve anyway
But if we wanna have Galron check us+an unsure slot I’m down for that

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this refrain about self resolving doesn't actually mean anything

we should not do whatever galron is pushing for so i'm now against the dunn elim
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #75) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:42 pm

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In post 1559, Icebox wrote:Is he really pushing for a dunn elim or just voting whoever makes him less dead. It;s pretty limp-wristed.

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Post Post #1564 (isolation #76) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:42 pm

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In post 1562, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1558, Cephrir wrote:this refrain about self resolving doesn't actually mean anything
He has claimed a day 4 IC, so he "self-resolves" day 4
i thought that was a joke, since it was followed by a picture of a character whose gimmick is lying.

was it not a joke? did they change their mind about whether it was a joke?
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:45 pm

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i think we can probably all agree that galron is the last person whose opinion should count in any discussion of what he should do tonight
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Post Post #1571 (isolation #78) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:48 pm

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if i were scum i would never shoot galron tonight under any circumstances, but i guess if they're that scared
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Post Post #1572 (isolation #79) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 1570, Off The Hook wrote:Shuichi you probably have less exp than Kaito with the person but you should maybe still know what the Kokichi image actually means

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i think i remember where it shows up in the game but any specific connection is lost on me at the moment sorry
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #80) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:55 pm

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i can piece that part together but am still not remembering whatever you're referring to
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #81) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:30 pm

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grr rawr galron roar mafia bad

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Post Post #1629 (isolation #82) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:02 pm

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In post 1625, Galron wrote:
In post 1622, Off The Hook wrote:galron whyd u pick rosencrantz
I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #83) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:02 pm

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i wonder if i'm allowed to ask that
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #84) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:03 pm

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lemme back that up and find out if that's an ok line of questioning.
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #85) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:11 pm

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In post 1640, Galron wrote:
In post 1629, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1625, Galron wrote:
In post 1622, Off The Hook wrote:galron whyd u pick rosencrantz
I didn't. It was assigned to me. I don't even know anything about her except she was in Hamlet I think.
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Some red haried woman and a guy with a puffy skirt.
ah, yes, rosencrantz, that character known for being closely associated with a female character.... (for clarity, this isn't the case)

well since this was answered anyway, i was wondering why you thought your character was female; he isn't
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #86) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 1641, Off The Hook wrote:i dont know much about shakespeare at all, but me and gamma both googled it and rosencrantz seemed kinda bad to me..
am i understanding wrong, or why does it say rosencrantz and their partner guildenstern are spys serving a "corrupt king claudius"
i doubt flavor = alignment here.
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #87) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 1644, Galron wrote:
In post 1636, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1624, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1580, Off The Hook wrote:it's hard to verify how his posting rate measures to each game without doing some fancy shit I lack the time for
I did fancy shit because why not?

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The conditional formatting guessed incorrectly 4 times, got it right 1 time, and then it did not give a result on his middle of the road game.


If anything, this is wrong more then it is right, and lurk Dunn = town Dunn.
well then

I did notice he had middling posting rates in a lot of his scumgames though and his posting does tend to ping as distinctly scummy when he is scum, and he's at least fitting that second bill imo
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The only quote I have is "be not afraid the island is full of noises"
this seems unlikely
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #88) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:15 pm

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just based on the sample role pm

yeah sorry i didn't mean to get this deep without mod approval and i didn't ask anyone to quote their role pm
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Post Post #1680 (isolation #89) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:36 pm

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In post 1672, Pavowski wrote:This being my first such game I don't actually know what that means but I'm assuming I have once again committed a stupid
we picked our characters, so the mafia aren't all going to be villains or vice versa

i didn't choose a particularly heroic character myself
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #90) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:43 pm

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i think it's best that i not answer this question
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #91) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:53 am

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We really want to elim me over claimed scum huh

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Post Post #1776 (isolation #92) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:56 am

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Dude has claimed to have only one Shakespeare quote (so lazy hed not even looking at the sample PM apparently) yet has specifically claimed 2 abilities one of which makes no sense, apparently has a picture of rosencrantz with ophelia instead of you know the character he is attached at the hip to (do they even share any scenes???) What more do you need
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #93) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 1780, Skybird wrote:Ceph, you only have one vote on you if I read the vote count correctly.

Pedit- I would rather flip Galron too.
I can in fact count! Soft votes are a legitimate form of danger

I'm annoyed that this is probably a calculated move by lld/maybe wis to get a rise out of me. And it may work! Am I now the guy who's not allowed to play until he has an emotional breakdown in the thread? It's kind of shitty to force me to be a person I've said I want to stop being. :/

I'm probably overreacting but theres your frustration are you happy now
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #94) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 1781, Cephrir wrote:It's kind of shitty to force me to be a person I've said I want to stop being. :/
that was a bad thing to say sorry

i do want to draw a comparison to other players who are required to perform a certain way in order to be allowed to live, but i didn't need to do it in an accusatory way.
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #95) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:21 pm

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In post 1785, Skybird wrote:Ceph, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to annoy you. FWIW, I don't see um read you.
You didnt annoy me dw
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #96) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 1787, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1770, Lukewarm wrote:Also, gl. Your reads list is like exactly mine, but with pav and oth flipped lol
do you find my points against Pav worth looking at? I really don't think I have any good reasons to townread him at all, I thought the "never lim Juliet until endgame" posting was unlikely from scum but I could see that as cheeky S-S. If they're both scum together it would also serve as a different explanation as to why Pav didn't consider her as a potential NK ().
I actually think it could be a nice excuse to not interact with her

But I still dont really want to base anything on assumptions about jc
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Post Post #1799 (isolation #97) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:59 pm

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In post 1794, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1762, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1750, GuiltyLion wrote:His claimed ability to upgrade to rolecop doesn't make sense because parity cop is equal to if not a stronger role.
Pretty sure he said the upgrade is he gets the role of one of the players on top of the parity cop
No, he didn't:
In post 1340, Galron wrote:
In post 1326, GuiltyLion wrote:hmmm

I'd say in general the odds of Galron choosing to peek at exactly both a player that was killed and a player that was robbed are really low and so I don't think it's still really likely that his claim is true or that he's town

however due to my role I will track him again tonight so if I live to D3 I can confirm it tomorrow, therefore I'm not sure if I'm fully opposed to letting him live today, but I want to think about it. @Galron, can you use this ability every night?
I can upgrade to rolecop if I have enough gold, and I can't use the comparing ability then.
Stop making things up to defend him
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #98) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:54 pm

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that is what they asked -- but it's not how you answered
In post 1644, Galron wrote:
In post 1636, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1624, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1580, Off The Hook wrote:it's hard to verify how his posting rate measures to each game without doing some fancy shit I lack the time for
I did fancy shit because why not?

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The conditional formatting guessed incorrectly 4 times, got it right 1 time, and then it did not give a result on his middle of the road game.


If anything, this is wrong more then it is right, and lurk Dunn = town Dunn.
well then

I did notice he had middling posting rates in a lot of his scumgames though and his posting does tend to ping as distinctly scummy when he is scum, and he's at least fitting that second bill imo
but tbh I think I wanna posit another question to
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The only quote I have
is "be not afraid the island is full of noises"
i also struggle to see what that quote possibly has to do with anything. mine maybe is/are a reach but has/have some relevance to the ability and/or character if i squint.
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #99) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:07 pm

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In post 1340, Galron wrote:
In post 1326, GuiltyLion wrote:hmmm

I'd say in general the odds of Galron choosing to peek at exactly both a player that was killed and a player that was robbed are really low and so I don't think it's still really likely that his claim is true or that he's town

however due to my role I will track him again tonight so if I live to D3 I can confirm it tomorrow, therefore I'm not sure if I'm fully opposed to letting him live today, but I want to think about it. @Galron, can you use this ability every night?
I can upgrade to rolecop if I have enough gold, and I
can't use the comparing ability
then.
wis can you not read this or are you just ignoring it because it's not convenient

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Post Post #1916 (isolation #100) » Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:11 pm

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add contradicting himself on that to the pile
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In post 1949, Icebox wrote:Hey, so, Bowser Jr. Pavowski, Lukewarm and I are in A scum PT together a neighborhood and none of us are admitting to making it.
i am in a similar situation.
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i basically think that's good but should we wait to see if they can prove their thing
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #103) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 1964, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1963, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1962, Cephrir wrote:i basically think that's good but should we wait to see if they can prove their thing
idk, should we? we'll have questions for you if we're not proven, ftr

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Post Post #2045 (isolation #104) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:43 pm

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In post 2004, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1985, Lukewarm wrote:@Marci, can you guys 100%, no doubt about it, confirm yourselves next day phase?
i think potentially we can but it depends on a couple of things :dead:
this isn't really how you presented it before
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #105) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:46 pm

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In post 2007, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 2006, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2004, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 1985, Lukewarm wrote:@Marci, can you guys 100%, no doubt about it, confirm yourselves next day phase?
i think potentially we can but it depends on a couple of things :dead:
It is hard for me to step and and try to save you today on a maybe :/
depends on
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2 - not being rbed (if theres people who can do this?)
why would you say this out loud
In post 2008, Off The Hook wrote:hmm
our ability to confirm ourselves relies on targeting another player, cephrir, you don't have anything in your role that would interfere with that, would you?

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why are you asking me this specifically

i'm not an ascetic if that's the question, but i am not going to fullclaim for no reason
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Also, I think Wisdom is scum.
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #106) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:50 pm

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ordinarily my kneejerk reaction would be why would scum wisdom go so hard on defense of a doomed partner but a scum flip from JC kinda makes that make more sense
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #107) » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:23 pm

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Mercutio is from romeo & juliet.

VOTE: OTH
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Post Post #2169 (isolation #108) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:14 am

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In post 2131, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2049, Cephrir wrote:ordinarily my kneejerk reaction would be why would scum wisdom go so hard on defense of a doomed partner but a scum flip from JC kinda makes that make more sense
Elaborate please
I was one of the main jc pushers
I mean it might make sense if you are running out of buddies to try and take some risks for them

Guess I forgot about that though

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Post Post #2180 (isolation #109) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:57 am

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And you didn't rethink that *before* trying to kill me?
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #110) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:05 am

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I really wants to look at the contingent pushing dunn yesterday and how they evolved as galron's claim became increasingly ridiculous
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #111) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:06 am

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In post 2182, Off The Hook wrote:PEdit: if you're town cephrir, all we would have done was confirm you town while taking us out of the equation. That doesn't seem so bad?
Not that bad, but shooting scum is way better, because then you can still do this and scum are dead.
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Post Post #2187 (isolation #112) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:56 am

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In post 2184, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2182, Off The Hook wrote:PEdit: if you're town cephrir, all we would have done was confirm you town while taking us out of the equation. That doesn't seem so bad?
Not that bad, but shooting scum is way better, because then you can still do this and scum are dead.
Also, if you don't crumb, all you've done is kill yourself. im kind of puzzled by how poorly you thought this through.
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Post Post #2189 (isolation #113) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:05 am

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In post 141, Galron wrote:Lukewarm v. Pav in -vibes like town recognizing each other.
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In post 479, Galron wrote:UNVOTE:

I have reason to believe this.
does anyone have any ideas what this (referring to cof poisoning) could be about? is there a scum poison doc?
In post 1081, Galron wrote:VOTE: Tamora
In post 1158, Galron wrote:Sorry. It's been a busy day.

Vote on Tamora is because I was relieved of my gold and a note was left by the burglar apparently:

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day.

It sounds kind of wifomy now, but coing out of morning I was thinking Tamora. And then her fis t couple of posts today were kinda scummy I thought.
this makes very little sense and points to this slot as town imo

also, the crier is just town after him spending 20 posts not understanding what a crier is, yeah?

pedit: oh, that's right, ok.
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Post Post #2190 (isolation #114) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:08 am

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In post 1165, DeasVail wrote:Icebox, bowser jr., why aren’t you voting for me?

What you’re doing today makes it look like you were just trying to get a wagon on me D1 as a possible non-Juliet elim.
i'm wondering how this will progress (mostly noting for myself)

dv, why aren't you cute this game? it's all very serious and flat, but i'm not certain that's actually a scum trait for you
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Post Post #2191 (isolation #115) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:11 am

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In post 1215, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1176, Galron wrote:Are you going to vote for anyone Pav, DV, OTH?
Nah not yet.

OTH is my preferred vote at this point though.
after this you basically said you wanted to vote OTH again, then reread and dropped it and never mentioned them again/are soft defending them now. what's with that?
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #116) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:18 am

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In post 1266, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1248, Galron wrote:Dunnstral is skeeving me out by lopping in excuses for me.
this post makes me think Dunn is town
me too
In post 1289, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I've been voting Galron since day 1, I saw the guilty, I'm just wondering how that changed people's minds so quickly without a claim.
it's so interesting that you went the total other way from everyone on this. idk what that means right now.
In post 1299, Galron wrote:I'm not a poison doc. I was just pointing out that usually there's a way to remedy that. No one's going to design a game where someone is poisoned out of the gate w/out an opportunity at getting cured.
this is bullshit, they definitely know something about cof
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Post Post #2193 (isolation #117) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:20 am

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In post 1321, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't think it's correct to kill them here either way. It's worth getting another result or seeing scum shoot them for us.

I think I would rather kill Dunnstral
In post 1322, Wisdom wrote:We agree then, im staying om dunn
idk if i can convince myself the tag team effort from these two for like 10 pages just happens to both be town
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Post Post #2194 (isolation #118) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:24 am

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In post 1387, Titus wrote:VOTE: Dunn

I feel Galron is probably scum, but I agree with the mechanical call more.
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Post Post #2195 (isolation #119) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:31 am

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In post 1437, Wisdom wrote:OTH is obvtown
can you do words here
In post 1438, DeasVail wrote:A reread quenches some of the fire
Let us see what else shall transpire

VOTE: Cephrir
i don't like the timing of this w/ everything surrounding it making it seem like it might be doable
In post 1478, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1454, Bowser Jr. wrote:I think cephrirs post conveys he doesn’t give a fuck this game, a typically town-Cephrir trait. He sounds nothing like bloodstained.

Of the three, he’s the only one I’m against for reasons that aren’t “there’s a person tracked to TWO people who have had malicious actions against them”
It feels like Ceph is doing the minimum amount possible to appear engaged and town, and I don't get the sense of there being a town-mind behind Ceph's posts trying to solve the game. He's just saying things.
why have you chosen to do this over trying to engage me?

right now my vibe is that scum were in the kill dunn contingent (wis, lld, oth, titus but she's town, sorta dv) or were not posting here
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #120) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:36 am

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In post 1604, Off The Hook wrote:and the second is him [Dunn --C] trying to nudge Cephrir into pushing us
this looks like something someone who thinks i'm town would say, but they didn't think i was town at this time
In post 1698, Off The Hook wrote:is cephrir scum yes or yes :P
this is the same head
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #121) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:38 am

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In post 1750, GuiltyLion wrote:LLD - Early vote/pressure on Galron and I think her arguments and play on D2 has also felt natural and genuine much like Bowser Jr's - I especially like that she calls him town and threatened Galron to not shade/vote obvious townies. My only worry here is if I'm a million percent wrong on Galron/many of my other reads, she strikes me as someone with a capable scum game, but in most universes I think she's town and I'd really only re-evaluate her if the situation was dire.
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Post Post #2202 (isolation #122) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:43 am

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In post 1786, DeasVail wrote:My patience now is wearing thin
Town! Unite! Against sin

UNVOTE: Cephrir
VOTE: Galron
where is the trajectory

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Post Post #2221 (isolation #123) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:45 pm

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I dont think that's what I said? I said i was interested in who did that, not that that is what scum were doing definitively and I'm pretty sure i didnt specifically attach your name to it
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #124) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:46 am

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In post 2241, Lukewarm wrote:
Foreign Shore


I found you when I did need to break free,
a place to go when I could stand no more.
Set sail across the web alike unto sea.
and here you were as if a foreign shore.

A land afull of cats, of fish, and stars.
A whole cabal who looked upon me then
and saw there Me, not just the wounds and scars.
A place where I could be just me again.

But now, at last my body has been healed
No more is there a need to flee my land
No need to sail across the web afield.
but now ask why upon this shore I stand?

No more I need to flee my own station
But still I do come here to vacation


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There were other people I wanted to call out, but making names fit into the iambic pentameter was hard :dead: :dead:
I kinda added an umbrella term to the following line to grab the people I missed lol
Also, yes I did end up calling out ffery twice lmao. But those names both fit, and both added another non-ffery person
This actually is kind of decent (I have high standards for poetry, this is a compliment)
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Post Post #2333 (isolation #125) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:27 pm

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didn't like that

VOTE: pav
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Post Post #2351 (isolation #126) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:50 pm

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why didn't you target 2 scumreads
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Post Post #2354 (isolation #127) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:31 pm

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i cant do this. i just have too much going on right now and this distraction is too much. im sorry
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Post Post #3507 (isolation #128) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:09 pm

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I have no idea what possessed my successor to admit to the bulletproof. GG, well done bell, sorry I wasnt more help
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Post Post #3515 (isolation #129) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:27 pm

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In post 3508, Icebox wrote:I hope it relieved the strain a bit from your life stuff. <3.
Yeah that was the right call for me. It absolutely helped.
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