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[Dorsey]

I'm happy to be here.

VOTE: IOnlyAskWhy

[Dorsey]

I didn't expect there to be this much
UNVOTE:

[Dorsey]

You all appear to be friends
VOTE: Datisi

[Dorsey]

No, I just don't know any other way to get into the game.

[Dorsey]

This is starting to feel like homework. Can someone tell me what's happening? I don't know where it stopped being jokes and started being serious suspicions. Has it started being serious suspicions? Is that something that's supposed to be said out loud?

[Dorsey]

I don't want to vote the monkey. There's no evidence to suggest he's evil, and his personality is preferable.

Reminder for self: Finish reading posts of below players
Andres, Datisi, Gamma, Iconeum, T3, and Wiki

[Dorsey]

I sheep Wiki. You talk too much to be scum.
VOTE: Iconeum

[Dorsey]

Thank God we all get the same amount of votes despite post count.

[Dorsey]

I don't really get the hostility. I thought this was supposed to be fun.

VOTE: Andresvmb

[Dorsey]

Because I just figured one of Andres, Ico, or T3. Andres 0 votes on vanity wagon, T3 0 votes on leading wagon 1, Ico 0 votes on leading wagon 2

[Dorsey]

idk man im trying

[Dorsey]

I feel there's scum in each group [Andres/Iconeum/T3], [Three/Salsabil/Dwlee], and [Datisi/Almost50]. I'm just curious as to why some ISO's (e.g, Almost50) are overlooked. It's just a game of spam and subjective rhetoric disguised as logic, which can still be fun, but I don't see the need to church it up. The fact that anyone can be "locktown" is funny.

VOTE: Almost50

[Dorsey]

Having more votecounts would make it easier to follow the bandwagoners. I feel there are several wagons that build up rapidly out of nowhere.

Edit: I voted andres because I could. There's nothing saying he's town and nobody knows anything about the other players so I don't see the issue with voting and gauging reactions. I feel it would be different if I was putting him in a vulnerable position, like close to elimination or something. Do you disagree or something?

[Dorsey]

And I felt that, if everybody's getting wagoned, why not those players? Why skip over people? It just seemed very manipulative, as if mafia are pushing wagons but not on their own people, which would make sense.

[Dorsey]

Like monkey's last posts were videos, but whatever, idrc that much.

[Dorsey]

Also, some of y'all are just rude, so you're no fun to play with, question, or read, but I mean, lol, that's life.

[Dorsey]

1423 - geraintm says he's not sorting anyone and it's "fair". I thought the perceived lack of sorting was why I was being voted. I feel this would be far more effective in person.

[Dorsey]

Idc, I'll vote T3. Every time I open my mouth I get attacked anyway.

VOTE: T3

[Dorsey]

I'm fine with dying, it's really not that serious. Clearly I struck a chord with scum since I'm being wagoned over geraintm and Almost50, so do what you will with that. This random "provide answers" bit is cheap, inconsistent and hypocritical - answers to what?

[Dorsey]

Second time in a row, maybe this player base just isn't for me.

[Dorsey]

Datisi

[Dorsey]

Because you need me dead to believe me and this thread is a mob of rhetoric I wouldn't be too butthurt to leave. Clearly I've stumbled into the wrong place.

[Dorsey]

If I had the same amount of time as previous games, I could reference posts, but there are too many posts, multiple games, and not enough free time. And then Datisi said he didn't even disagree with me, that he just wanted more, but he's comfortable letting other players slide. And I can understand that if he's scum, but for multiple people not to see the inconsistency but to just go with that. Why would I prolong my stay in that?

[Dorsey]

And I get it, you guys have built a community around this worthless spewing of rhetoric, but just because you have the majority in this current space doesn't make you right. So saying I'm less meaningful than anyone else is incorrect. I feel like I wandered onto the Capitol on Jan 6 and this is clearly not my crowd.

Edit: Because of how they talk to each other

[Dorsey]

And even then, the condescension. Like what are you people like IRL? This is a game, why are you being snarky and calling people idiots? What's the point?

[Dorsey]

I don't have the paper anymore, but I pretty much wrote all the names in color pencil while doing homework and put all the same color names in the same bracket. I had no idea it'd be so groundbreaking and controversial.

[Dorsey]

Do you want to know what colors they were or something...?

[Dorsey]

And another thing. My votes were criticized but looking back they were extremely minimal impact, so why does it matter? Shouldn't you focus on votes that moved or forged dangerous wagons? There's so much of this that's arbitrary that when you try to pretend one thing isn't or shouldn't be, it's kind of difficult to not get whiplash from the absurdity. You're making up reasons to justify foolishness. Which in a way is funny, but not if you don't acknowledge the ridiculousness of it. You can't pretend that you're doing serious work.

[Dorsey]

Sorry, I have school.
@Andres, I was half paying attention and trying to procrastinate. There were three groups but there are four mafia - there'd have to be two in a group if that's how you interpreted it.

@Dwlee - I like the game, I think it's fun, but I think something deeper is going on when it's not lighthearted. And I think you find mafia by randomly pressing different spots until you find a pattern or something to go on, which I think is becoming more apparent: some slots are getting pressed whereas others are not - why? What connection do they have with each other? And how can you clarify that when the "logic" being proposed is inconsistent and cherry-picked? I mean, if you're protecting your friend because you want to play with them longer, just say that. But saying that I'm not contributing because you didn't understand one of my posts is a joke I feel is going over everyone's head but mine.

[Dorsey]

Datisi protecting Almost50 and T3, Ico siding with Datisi, everyone thinking Datisi is town for zero reason.

[Dorsey]

@T3 - Post as much as possible? Isn't that why you hated Wiki?

@Three - What changed was pages went on and geraintm and I got treated differently than Almost50. And regarding my vote, one second me voting someone with no votes is a problem and now it's encouraged and I'm being shunned for not doing it - do you see how pointless this is? T3 actually had a wagon - Datisi did/still does not.

[Dorsey]

And, no, me being critical is not 'tonal dissonance'. I'm allowed to play and still be disappointed.

[Dorsey]

And is the burden of proof supposed to be on me or not? Because either way I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do.

[Dorsey]

I responded to that in my very next post

[Dorsey]

I honestly don't know. I feel like I'm in a mental facility. I do think Datisi is the ringleader, though, because he says something and it gets parroted by his minions. I'm almost to the point where I think they're all the same account, but I feel thats frustration because I would hope this site would have measures for that. I feel Almost50 is scum, Datisi is scum, and Iconeum is a Datisi stan account. Geraintm is town.

[Dorsey]

I've given enough thought to this. I have other things to do right now.

[Dorsey]

Wow, an explosion of posts and wagon shifts to protect Datisi. That was quick. VOTE: Datisi

I jump off A50 and now all of a sudden he's scum. Datisi is the manipulator. He's also the one calling people "fucking morons" and "purposefully ignorant".

[Dorsey]

Why not vote Datisi, Ico?

[Dorsey]

Okay, your insults are weak, boy

[Dorsey]

The anger, it's stifling

[Dorsey]

This is what I was talking about, Dwlee99 - isn't that shit weird? There HAS to be something deeper going on.

[Dorsey]

"Stuff" is vague - what did you ask me that I didn't respond to, Iconeum?

[Dorsey]

And @Andres, because clearly Datisi is the boss.

[Dorsey]

Was that the "stuff" that I didn't respond to?

[Dorsey]

@Ico - Because I'm human
@Andres - I'm cool with flipping T3 as well, it's just that if he's evil, at least he's relatively nice about it. And he doesn't seem that influential. Datisi is swinging wagons.

P-edits

[Dorsey]

Salsa loves A50 so much she gave him her Wi-Fi password

@Andres - How is influential scum good?

[Dorsey]

Procrastinating again.
@Andres - In Post 1945, is the case you're referring to in Post 1854? Basically Almost50 saying Datisi isn't scum because he didn't eliminate Almost50?

[Dorsey]

Why are people voting for him if he's a town role? Wouldn't it be proved or disproved D2?

[Dorsey]

Is Wiki scum?

[Dorsey]

And Dwlee, if you've fake claimed VT as PR before, why are you still voting Three? I don't understand.

[Dorsey]

I don't understand what Wiki's saying. Is he claiming jailer as well?

[Dorsey]

Having the same role is the basis of counterclaiming, isn't it? You can't counterclaim without having the same role.

[Dorsey]

Ok nvm idc anymore good night

[Dorsey]

Is this normal?

[Dorsey]

I don't like this. This is uncomfortable.

[Dorsey]

Cool cool. Good luck.

[Dorsey]

So much horse shit
@Iconeum - What is your opinion of Three's wagon? Do you feel there was scum on it, and, if so, who? Also, why is the scum not Datisi?

[Dorsey]

And am I wrong or was there 24 hours left on the deadline clock?

[Dorsey]

My current guess (don't know if I'm supposed to say this aloud due to WIFOM, but wtf) is one of Ico/Datisi, one of geraintm/Salsabil, T3, and Wiki. Murder me.

[Dorsey]

VOTE: Datisi
@Datisi: Which one is scum? Iconeum or T3?

@All: Can we shoot a common denominator from the two miseliminations?

[Dorsey]

Two slots who I have absolutely no faith in.

[Dorsey]

Cool. Since you're around, can you answer my question.

[Dorsey]

"Killed two townies" is how I would've put it, but nice attempt.

[Dorsey]

Do I have to type out your hypocrisy or is it obvious?

[Dorsey]

Cool cool cool, so I received a fake friendly neighbor notification last night

[Dorsey]

You do fake outrage in every game. It's not compelling.

[Dorsey]

None of what you're saying right now is relevant...or even effective ad hominem.

[Dorsey]

Who are my partners if I'm scum?

[Dorsey]

A50, Datisi, Iconeum/T3

Edit:Is this a snark contest or are we trying to solve the game?

[Dorsey]

What is your motive here? Other than survival?

[Dorsey]

You've already contradicted yourself and your ideology and haven't said anything against A50...again. I don't understand your protection of him.

E: This isn't about my ego, Datisi - what if I'm wrong? What if you're actually persuasive or have points other than caps-lock and insults?

[Dorsey]

What if you play the game?

[Dorsey]

Saying you shouldn't vote in Elo and then voting in Elo with one of your goons is a contradiction.

[Dorsey]

The third point is obtuse and appears to be a stretch.

[Dorsey]

Are you saying that of all the players on the list, I'm the scummiest? Or do you feel I'm just the easiest target? Or is this OMGUS?

E: It still doesn't explain why you wouldn't just vote your leading suspect.

[Dorsey]

Unless you're saying that's me?

[Dorsey]

Insults, nice. So why am I 100%? Because I voted?

[Dorsey]

Because you're expecting a four-man quickhammer?

[Dorsey]

Wouldn't that make you and A50 scum, too?

[Dorsey]

Are we all partners? Did I read my role pm wrong?

[Dorsey]

What if some of them get it together a little quicker? Like A50 for example?

Edit: You and A50 are perpetrating the event you're describing

[Dorsey]

I don't mind you and I think you're gonna win, but I really wanted it spelled out for prosperity.

[Dorsey]

I refuse to be the reason why this town lost

[Dorsey]

Also, I'm not pretending anything is your argument. I'm literally asking you questions.

Edit: What, are you going to cyber bully them or something? I like the rage, though - it appears to be effective and is a good way to disengage when you have nothing left lol

[Dorsey]

Lmao, not me autocorrecting "posterity" to "prosperity"

Edit: A50 is literally scumpiling as we speak lol and you try hard to not address it

[Dorsey]

And how do you account for different time zones?

[Dorsey]

If one more person votes me, do you assume I'm town and unvote?

[Dorsey]

Re:2743 - When did I say that? As in what post?

[Dorsey]

When did I say "whoever votes in lylo ever is scum"

Edit: That's kind of why I said your words were irrelevant earlier because you're not speaking from any perspective other than "I'm town, therefore Dorsey is scum", which I know to be untrue.

E2: I could've types more but I'm on a phone again

[Dorsey]

The quickness with which you relinquish responsibility is a red flag.

[Dorsey]

A50 COULD be scum, but you're not going to vote him because in 3 business days his partners are just going to pile on whoever anyway. It's just really not believable.

[Dorsey]

Also, the going theory that you're leaving out (which is a disservice if you're town) is that you're scum and neither one of us is going to be quickhammered because you're scum and you don't have enough votes to hammer me yet.

Edit: You're so much faster with your fingers

[Dorsey]

So all of this is for nothing. (Other than my martyrdom)

[Dorsey]

O, look, we both have green hair in our avatars

Edit: Yeah, I kinda figured it out earlier on when your wagon imploded for no reason

[Dorsey]

And even if I'm wrong about your partners, I feel like killing you will at least give us more time to figure shit out. Rushing through D2 was pretty unfair.

[Dorsey]

How did you know Andre and Dwlee were power roles?

[Dorsey]

It's also impossible for the odds of me being town to sink lower with a convo.

Edit: O hey, Enchant, I'm pretty sure he's scum lol

[Dorsey]

You're terrifying, Datisi. These people were blindly following you this whole time - you were the first one on each wagon. AND YOU WERE SCUM! You should form angry mobs for a living. You'd make a killing, get it?

[Dorsey]

No

[Dorsey]

Lol, I'm joking. I could argue the semantics of taking things "literally", but what's the use? Now we wait for you to build up a team for your quickhammer n

[Dorsey]

It's weird, though: instead of clarifying, you point at what you say are misinterpretations of your words and try to use that to condemn me. It's almost like understanding isn't what you're after here.

[Dorsey]

What contradiction? Do you feel I'm attacking you?

[Dorsey]

I thought lylo mechanics rendered me 100% scum. Only me, though, not A50.

E: Simone Biles. Don't vote. Just FoS

[Dorsey]

And Datisi's not angry, he's strategic. His emotional aggression has proved successful so he rinses and repeats.

[Dorsey]

There's no way someone could be that angry with something they do all the time. He plays this game for fun.

Edit: Datisi, think of that as more an indictment of the game's site culture than a critique of you. You're a product of your environment

[Dorsey]

#2777 just seems super dismissive

[Dorsey]

It would make more sense if you thought I was scummier than A50 ahead of time, but you're not positing that.

[Dorsey]

Because that would be my leading point. "Both are voting, but I thought A was scummier than B, so I'm voting A"

[Dorsey]

It's like you didn't care to address any of that, as if your job was done, like I gave you an easy win or something

Edit: lol o lord the caps are back. Take cover

[Dorsey]

Good night, you sack of scum

[Dorsey]

I can't believe you killed my boy Andres

[Dorsey]

What are you arguing T3. Are you scum?

[Dorsey]

Idk if A50 is joking or not.

[Dorsey]

And I've definitely voiced suspicion

[Dorsey]

I guess the pile-on is in spirit until you can get everyone around at the same time, huh? You just need one townie. I'm really comfortable with this 1v1.

[Dorsey]

Gotchas? Contradictions? You're scum because you killed two townies, drove most town-targeting wagons, used hypocritical reasoning D1 and D3 to protect A50, and conveniently avoided any scrutiny (other than checkbox scrutiny) of your own despite it. I get it, a lot of people here went off of your faulty logic and adolescent peer pressure and fake rage, but gaslighting should be a bit more stronger than that when it comes to adults. You're scum. I know it, you know it - we're just waiting for these super sleuths to either read, make a guess, or give up.

[Dorsey]

Yes, more stronger. Not to be confused with most strongest.

[Dorsey]

1 more elim needed for scum and he magically has a PR that he didn't crumb.

Edit: Cute

[Dorsey]

Hurry, scum partners, come to Datisi's defense

Edit: That was checkbox pressure

[Dorsey]

Is the 4th on V/LA?

Edit: Sarcasm doesn't improve your argument, it weakens it

[Dorsey]

Also, scum can have legit arguments, they just cherry-pick who to eliminate

[Dorsey]

And lol you never got above 3 votes out of the 7 needed

Edit: The pile-on progresses!

[Dorsey]

Lying about you how? What was the lie?

[Dorsey]

2839 - Are you saying there are scummier people who were in your same boat? And it's not difficult to manufacture a BS argument in a game of majority unknowns - you just avoid bringing them up against partners, even if the circumstances are similar or even worse (A50). And I know your stance on lylo because I read it, but it's dismissive and I can't see any town motivation for such a dismissive and non-accountable stance.

2840 - Clear at what point? As in what post? Because how could you be yeeted when you have three people on your side preventing that? Especially with the vulnerable playstyles we've had?

2841 - A clown. A scum clown. Unless you get a townie, you're done for. Your entire team is outing as we speak. Datisi is clearly going to be the elim and you guys will follow.

[Dorsey]

Actually, that may be giving this town too much credit, but you get my drift.

[Dorsey]

You literally killed two townies and I killed none. You got three votes and my wagon went up to e-1 - clearly I'm the townie in this scenario.

[Dorsey]

My fingers are tiiiiiired

Edit: And you killed Andres because he was after you

[Dorsey]

Accurate and good are subjective. You've self-identified as scum already, man, you can't fool me

[Dorsey]

What's the difference between tunneling and what A50 is doing

[Dorsey]

Ok man I got shit to do

[Dorsey]

CAPS =/= truth , old man

[Dorsey]

Does that mean Datisi's scum, too? He hasn't been hammered. Hasn't even been voted. And I didn't kill the jailer - does that make me town?

[Dorsey]

Ok I really should go lol I'm turning into Wiki

[Dorsey]

But another thing: Why would you as scum, knowing he's telling the truth, sacrifice your image for that elim when it was going through anyway and you could just NK?

[Dorsey]

2855 - Wiki was speed-elimmed. The "invented Mafia" thing is irrelevant rhetoric.

2856 - Useless "he said, she said" because I know this to be untrue

2857 - I'm accusing Datisi of being the leader. You're not the leader - you weren't even around. You're the late henchman.

2858 - I know you're happy and I don't want to ruin that for you, but no lol. Your snazzy metaphor is offbase. I think you're projecting this "cool" narrative for whatever purpose it serves you.

2860 - I think this is the "gotcha" stuff Datisi was trying to accuse me of. If this is what it looks like, I'm offended

[Dorsey]

This is the most active you've been all game, A50 - eager to cross the finish line?

Edit: Don't be rude

[Dorsey]

You literally need her vote if you guys are going to pull this off

[Dorsey]

Lol, says "You're scum because you're not dying" as he's actively trying to kill me. It's Salem again. Put witches in a river with a stone on their chest: if they float or survive, they're witches - if they die, they're not a witch

[Dorsey]

2867 - Do you feel nothing noteworthy has happened involving you since post 2760? Do you see no progression?

[Dorsey]

And nobody's throwing anything by voting scum. T3, you're scum - it's done. Now we just have to wait.

[Dorsey]

You took a different path to get here, but yes, I'm glad you made it

Edit: Let's go!!!

[Dorsey]

Impossible, it's in my DNA

[Dorsey]

Thank God, let Salsabil throw it. As long as it's not me.

2880 - I was referring to your D1 protection of A50. And which ones of your "guilty's" were actually guilty?

2882 - Different circumstances, but A50 was positing that he was confirmed town. I disagree.

2885 - I'm a MafiaScum account, I don't have genitalia

2887 - Then why aren't you dead, Datisi?

2888 - You outed yourself and I connected the dots

2890 - The first part, yes

[Dorsey]

This is fun

[Dorsey]

I don't see scum bussing when we have inactives and a V/LA - they can just stall if need be.

[Dorsey]

I have no idea what you are, you could be the fourth scum, but I know Datisi's the boss

[Dorsey]

OMG we're doomed lmao

[Dorsey]

So this was fun, I'm gonna go hang out with my friends. GG Datisi, A50, T3 and whoever the super clever fourth scum was.

[Dorsey]

Which is why no one is voting Datisi

[Dorsey]

Are there Mafia sites in other languages? Like, let's say, if English wasn't my first language and a lot of what I said wasn't translating? I wouldn't want a language and culture barrier to be the reason I kept fucking everybody over.

[Dorsey]

Asking for...an acquaintance

[Dorsey]

Damn, that's crazy. T3 wasn't hammered, Datisi wasn't hammered...both of them are sitting on my wagon... Crazy...

[Dorsey]

Which is why no one is voting Datisi.

[Dorsey]

This is a standstill - they literally don't have the numbers and they've tipped their hand in a last minute desperate plea to end the game.

[Dorsey]

Look at my interaction with the NKs vs Datisi and T3's interaction with the NKs - who would want them dead more? The fact that we're still waiting for hammer should make this very obvious.

[Dorsey]

Sis...get it together. He's not going to be your friend just because you let him bully you. Listen to what they're saying to you. Does that make sense to you? Why or why not?

[Dorsey]

Watch my mouth around you? Holy fuck she's twelve - I thought there was an age requirement for this game. Lol, this isn't even mafia anymore, this is preschool. Rooting for town, lmao, woot woot!

[Dorsey]

Scum is telling you what scum wouldn't do while literally doing what scum would do. And you're picking petty fights lol

[Dorsey]

This makes me happy. This is what I expected lol. I appreciate that.

[Dorsey]

Radio silence. Lovely.

[Dorsey]

Has "scum" piled on Datisi to hammer him yet? O wait, no; no one's even generated suspicion of him in the off chance they could have two miselim options. Why would scum dismiss the option of a Datisi wagon if he's town? Especially if he already has a vote on him?

[Dorsey]

The fake friendly neighbor notification I got said that Ico was town. Great job, monkey and salsa - you really eased the tension of actually trying to win. I appreciate that.

[Dorsey]

3064 - But 'watch your mouth' around her See? This is why I don't do the snarkfest - it stops being about the game AT ALL

And weak move with the V/LA - I knew something was up when you weren't defending me anymore. I'm gonna try replacing in only after I've looked through the thread and see if that yields different results

[Dorsey]

But did you make friends, tho, cuz clearly that was the point.
@Datisi, who are you inviting to brunch for being so submissive to you?

[Dorsey]

Who will you breed, Datisi

[Dorsey]

Where can I sign up for the cult

[Dorsey]

I desperately want to see the Mafia thread

[Dorsey]

It's literally just more of Datisi being angry

[Dorsey]