Open 835: D6 | Songs About Ronald Reagan | Day 5

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VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

um - how dare you

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One would think that in an open setup the role pms would be....open to viewing.

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Is it just me or has every single Galron post been completely indecipherable?

Arrested Development quotes.

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mmmm votecount pls?

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Votecount:

• Gamma Emerald (2): Roden, Galron
  Roden (2): numberQ, ssbm_Kyouko
  MegAzumarill (1): Egix96
  Enchant (1): MegAzumarill
  Not_Mafia (1): ssbm_Kyouko

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-11-10 07:56:01).
With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

ssbm_Kyouko is voting twice and you are missing my vote here.

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VOTE: gamma

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E-1 on gamma

countdown for the nm hammer incoming.

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I can't believe this

I tried - you were too slow.

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tbf that should be common knowledge

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86 feels like stalling, 94 in hindsight after seeing 118 strikes me as motivated by trying to get a claim out of Gamma for free, and then 118 itself is actually just fishing after he didnt get what he was hoping for.

Strike fast?

86 94 118

sigh

please use post tags when referencing specific posts as a public service to everyone....plskthx

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Is it opportunistic when you announce the exact reason why your doing it and it doesn’t end up being false?

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Oh hey new page

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Is it opportunistic when you announce the exact reason why your doing it and it doesn’t end up being false?

It being opportunistic or not is unrelated to either of those things.

uh…..ok. It’s not opportunistic if the reason for your action has basis and is not simply because the opportunity presents itself.

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Is it opportunistic when you announce the exact reason why your doing it and it doesn’t end up being false?

It being opportunistic or not is unrelated to either of those things.

uh…..ok. It’s not opportunistic if the reason for your action has basis and is not simply because the opportunity presents itself.

Someone can place a vote and give it a reason, and still be doing so opportunistically. That's how they try and hide the opportunism. Scum will not just be trying to come up with fake reads on people, but also try to time it right to keep up the momentum. So they will often hold back on saying things until the opportunity presents itself.

i mean my comment was initially about your posing but you're leaning into this weird

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VOTE: numberq

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Probably because you all rush a elim over the weekend when i'm not active.

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oh was i prodded on monday - mmm - not feeling this game i guess.

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mmm - i don't really care for anyone on the enchant wagon except a50

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VOTE: Roden
you failed the vibe check

But I do think kyouko hasn’t made much of a splash and might be scum as a result if enchant is town.

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too gamey

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VOTE: egix

at least there's competing wagons for the first time this game

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Amazing how the vote counts don’t reflect that.

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2 votes with 7 to elim and multiple vanities are not competing wagons but thanks for proving my point.

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It was 3v3 which is more than half the players. It’s 4v3 now.

Numbers are hard.

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It’s almost as if nm hasn’t been here in 6 days.

Almost.

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mmm

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I mean - an absent nm is directly related to Galron's three posts which is why i commented.

No one said anything about alignment.........

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what an odd comment

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You were the one saying it was NAI but insinuating town?

what?

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1) I didn't insinuate anything. I literally gave an example of how it was NAI.

it notably got him mis-elim'd in Scarlet Witch.

cool cool.

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please tell me more about this "not insinuating anything"

I am most eager to hear it.

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Nice deflection.

I don't really a care that I'm the leading wagon? I already explained why most vote is on Egix. I am scumhunting - it's apparent from almost all of my games how i do so. I don't know how I feel about you but I don't like the recent comment and now deflection. Not shading you - I'm poiting it out.

Cool - we caught up?

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solid pagetop if i may say so myself

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Penguin can you tell me what NAI means?

Probably the neutral position of a miselim

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It's literaly in the line below the vote....my god

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Penguin can you tell me what NAI means?

Probably the neutral position of a miselim

Cool, now explain how to find the neutral position of a mis-elim.

By stopping at NAI and not point out the miselim?

Are you for real?

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Way to spin!

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fuck off - it's the weekend and i'm lazy but you're not operating in good faith

VOTE: roden

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You literally spun my vote to the incorrect reason despite the stated one and have blatantly acted like an ignoramous. Either you are one or you're acting in bad faith.

But sure - bad reaction on my part. idc.

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I also don't really care if I get mis-elim'd because this game state is miserable, so that isn't really a threat to me. Literally cannot even ask a question without people screaming "bAd FaItH", like dude just play the game and answer some simple questions so I can read you properly.

lol - this is so gross.

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Also I didn't spin anything? You literally said you were glad there were competing wagons. You happen to be one of them. You voted for the competing one. This is incredibly cut and dry.

You said I voted egix to soley oppose my own. That is not the truth. That is spin.

I vote to create competing wagons - it happens to be why I'm not going ham against my own. That is you spinning.

Keep it coming. This is good info for after a flip.

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Ok.

Sorry - next time I will just say "what a terrible reaction"

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lol - i wasn't even pushing you when you started the spin.

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I. Want. Competing. Wagons.

You said...and I quote (fun feature)

I just really hoped your only reason for voting Egix

wasn't to get another wagon going to oppose your own.

(*Bolding is my own) That's spin. I don't care if was to oppose my own or not. I. Want. Competing. Wagons. If you actually care - see all my games ever.

Do you see the spin? I sure hope so because I worry for you if not.

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excited for another pagetop with that

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Ok.

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Are you kidding me? You can fuck all the way off for the rest of the game.

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Oh hi - I've produced several words explaining why...are you incapable of reading?

Bye.

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Or, perhaps you could just shut up and let everyone else talk?

Thoughts.

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Oh - sorry - Just saying!

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Oh hai. Glad you’ve talked. Do you think Roden being….mmm….something is going to help other people chime in?

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Or, perhaps you have substantive words to say at this point given you know….Roden.

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Holy shit. Like for real.

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Hello

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Um. Nice selective edit.

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tbf I missed the galron thing so thanks for that.

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Prod on ssbm_kyouko pls. Thx.

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Yeah - try not to remove substantive phrases or sentences though.

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Maybe you’ll eventually get close to quoting the whole post.

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It is how he always is! That’s why I took exception with the “though, it got him miselimed” because that’s puts a town spin on it e.g. not NAI.

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Solid pagetop again.

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VOTE: egix

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fuck off - misrep you....wtf.

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this game is a nightmare.

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Egix is similar in that he isn't really doing anything either. So really I'm fine with either. I only prefer Penguin at this point because at least Egix didn't have an AtE meltdown, refuse to answer simple questions, and demand to having competing wagons but then do absolutely nothing with it.

you realize that competing wagons are to look back on

after

flips...right? of course not - that sailed right over your head.

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fuck off - i literally don't dislike playing with any other player as much as i dislike playing with you.

VOTE: penguin

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yes yes - i called you many names and you definitely didn't twist any words whilst operating in obvious bad faith.

that's exactly what happened here



p-edit

no - it means that i dislike playing with you

that

much.

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i do think you are scum! it's why i voted you.

i don't care if you are playing to your wincon like this though.

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So was that hammer? If Penguin's town, the fuck dude, replace out if you have that much of a problem. Don't screw over the rest of your team like that.

meh - i was already at 5v2 with less than 10 hours to go and two claimed hammerers + nm. there wasn't going to be another elim and this is kind of a scummy comment.

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replace out if you have that much of a problem.

this is also against the rules

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No. Self-hammering deprives town of useful information. It's BARELY an acceptable strategy as scum, and completely unacceptable as town. I really hope you're scum for this.

there was no useful information re: my previous points.

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replace out if you have that much of a problem.

this is also against the rules

no it isn't??? Replacing out is definitely what you SHOULD do if you have a personal disagreement that affects your ability to play

As such, do not tell other players to replace out.

I'm not going to litigate this in game. I'm also not going to replace out at 5v2 with less than 10 hours to go and 3 claimed hammers. It's laughable if you think more info was going to come versus the risk of a no lim.

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What point? That you were at 5v2 and N_M was probably going to hammer anyway? Not really a defense for self-hammering. We were still deprived of information.

No you weren't. I'd argue we're getting more in twilight than we did in the past two days and the risk of a no lim has been eliminated.

Question: Why didn't you go off on Enchant for self-voting?

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Self-voting deprives you of information same as self-hammering - i'd argue in some cases more so since it can be the impetus to push a wagon to its end rather than just solidifying it.

odd justification.

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replace out if you have that much of a problem.

this is also against the rules

no it isn't??? Replacing out is definitely what you SHOULD do if you have a personal disagreement that affects your ability to play

As such, do not tell other players to replace out.

I'm not going to litigate this in game. I'm also not going to replace out at 5v2 with less than 10 hours to go and 3 claimed hammers. It's laughable if you think more info was going to come versus the risk of a no lim.

Weren't you the one earlier in the thread saying something about selective quoting? The "as such" refers to bringing outside influence into the game. You were already hammered. There was no outside influence.

It was a reminder given your join date.

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Ok - then we'll just have to disagree on that.

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There was literally no futher information to be gained from a hammer on me at that point - what are you going to push? The answer is either "I'm NM, it's what I do" or "It was deadline and we need a lim."

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No worries - I generally think self-hammering is a horrbile thing to do (same as self-voting late in wagon) - but it literally had no impact at this point in the day and eliminated a risk.

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<3

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yes

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holy fuck - what is wrong with you

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I agree - that is definitely something that is wrong with you.

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I feel like you exist in a world that is not this one with the things you say have happened.

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Case and point.

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Like - you either love making shit up or have a serious lack of awareness.

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If I actually thought you would attempt to understand in good faith, I'd explain further.

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But your approach to me strongly indicates that you won't so.......