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Does scum Gamma talk about reading a past scum pt?In post 164, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just read the scum PT from mini 2246 and I’m pretty happy datisi ID’d I was his traitor pretty effectively- Andante
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In post 732, Gamma Emerald wrote:I could combat this wagon but idek what to even argue
so I'm just gonna do my own fucking thing until I die ig
Yeah I noticed when I had to go find NM, this game has too many replaces, it's DAY 1... I think Gamma and VP are partners looking at this ISO, I'm just reading through Gamma's stuff, and it's like, at first I was like "I'm really not seeing scum!Gamma" but then like how VP called gamma out? idk, that feels off, I still haven't finished the ISO reading, and I need to look at VP's as well as Darby here, but gut is saying something is off with Gamma and VPIn post 740, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't rlly have much that I feel good about other than what I literally just posted
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this makes me want to vote you lmao and I haven't read anything else from you/dunnIn post 1860, Toogeloo wrote:I'm 10 pages in. I want to vote skitooky from what I've seen. It's Thanksgiving weekend, I'll probably be fully caught up by the end of it.
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lmao a VP/Gamma/Dunn team? If it's seriously this easy...In post 480, VP Baltar wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: dunn
Legit think there are two scum in (Dunn, Gamma, enchant, Ico)
Game is moving too fast and they can't keep with the pace. Sleeper scum in the actives.- Andante
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In post 1143, DArby wrote:Halfway through. A50 and Enchant are town so far.
Like to me, why would you go "A50 and Enchant are town, I'm pretty certain" then in your NEXT post "I'm on the fence but will TR Gamma for this" like, it feels like you're trying to convince others that Gamma is town, yes you just replaced in at this point, but if you flipped scum, you know your team, so it feels like, knowing Gamma is your partner, you're like "yeah look, see, town!" Cause if you actually TRed A50 and Enchant, why not quote towny stuff from them??In post 1144, DArby wrote:
Gamma is on the fence but I townread her for this.In post 856, Gamma Emerald wrote:I kinda wanna vote somewhere that isn't VP but I also fucking hate him trying to act like I owe him anything
It's that age-old thing of "you respect meas an authorityand I'll respect youas a person" which I do not support or abide in any form- Andante
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You're just mad cause I just showed up and have your whole team already lolIn post 1876, VP Baltar wrote:
You're probably scum based on your own logic! Better check that role PMIn post 1873, Andante wrote:lmao I SR the 3 top wagons, this is funny- Andante
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I love how you have to repeat this to yourself to keep you from slipping up cause you know very well what we haveIn post 1885, Toogeloo wrote:Scum know what they picked town to have, town don't know. Hypocopping is just going to circle jerk the town.- Andante
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In post 1891, Almost50 wrote:
1- Toog literally NEVER rolls Scum.In post 1886, Andante wrote:^Toogeloo scum
2- EVEN IF it was someone else, I don't see how these two posts point to a scummy mindset
I mean, I'm not going there today, I think Darby is a really good vote, Penguin put the vote here, I'm staying, I see no way in which Darby flips town, I do know I have a town in toog/dun, gamma, VP, darby, but unless the town in that acts towny, I'll just push them, don't really care. I'm pretty dang certain all scum is in this.
'Scum know what they picked town to have, town don't know. Hypocopping is just going to circle jerk the town."
That reads towny to you? interesting- Andante
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Why?In post 1899, Enchant wrote:
Can we kill this?In post 1890, Andante wrote:Cop should check me, I know my reads are right. so clear andante= I yell at yall to vote in my 3/4- Andante
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people were talking about a cop? there's no way maf gave us a 2 shot vig, and I think it's between cop/innocent child
I'm not saying I KNOW there's a cop, literally look at the posts immediately before tat. cop talk. Honestly, I don't care if I'm nk or not? I feel pretty good about my reads, and if I die, I hope they're listened to- Andante
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LMAOOOO I LOVE THIS DESCRIPTION!!!In post 1924, Datisi wrote:literally every single post from andante makes me feel like i'm reading a mafia playing bot that got its "chaotic" setting cranked up to 11
When in reality it was cause I went "ooh yes! I'lll replace in!!" then uhh kinda didn't realize I'd be busy, so I skimmed ISOs real quick, and I don't disagree with Gamma or Darby votes, Penguin voted Darby, I SR Darby, I'm staying here for today. Gamma has returned, and still has a vote on themself, so at the end of the day, I really don't care if Gamma goes, self voting, and making 0 effort to try and go "hey here's scum!!" I also don't TR Darby, so I'm staying on Darby
And with that, Happy thanksgiving friends!!! I figured I'd check in, see what happened, I like where my vote is, and I don't have opposition to other close wagons, so we good
oh and Gamma, if you're town, why the heck are you self voting?- Andante
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Everyone treats their scum partners different, depending on who they are, and personal preferences. Some people won't ever bus their partners, and some start pushing partners for the slightest reasons cause they know their partner is scum, so they see every little thing the partner does as scummy, for me, if a push feels off, that raises a red flag for me, and awkward TRs also raise flags for meIn post 1961, DArby wrote:Are you saying that scum is trying to distance themselves by pushing, but I started doing that by town reading my partner?- Andante
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You were literally self voting yesterday instead of voting your suspicion, that takes away all credibility/influence, and if you're town you should realize you haven't given enough for any of us to trust you.In post 2027, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm just pissed off beyond belief that people aren't listening to my TRs
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like Gamma had an extreme over reaction to losing both our PRs? Like yeah I'm annoyed Gamma/VP/Toog wasn't shot instead, but hey we can't change what happened, no point in whining about it for 20 posts- Andante
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I don't think a dats kill is too weird, dats wasn't on my radar, talked a lot, and honestly, I think it could be up there with fear kill? Dats made me laugh so hard though on how I was a chaotic maf bot XD I mean, I'd say dats/fun and games for a night kill is reasonable, I'm definitely good with voting gamma right now, cause there's a very likely possibility gamma also flips red, so from 1 scum wagon to another, meaning 3rd partner stayed on Gamma, and hey, VP was on Gamma!!!In post 2039, Fun and Games wrote:VOTE: gamma
I think dats is a p weird kill ngl, makes me think there's a p deep scum
I also think that dunn/toog is very +town from the slots interactions with ico
I wonder who's scum offwagon as well
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In post 1830, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
I’m ngl I’m bored as shit with this game but also don’t wanna exacerbate the current revolving door issue and I’m already on the table so why not just accept death
This is probably why I find long D1s insufferable because I think the puzzle box approach to mafia is how I best function and that requires flips.
Cakez/enchant/VP/A50/Penguin slot are like, all town, with help from PRs this game should be ez money
"I TRed Cake!!! How dare Dats not listen to me!!!"
I mean, are you actually serious right now Gamma? You kept talking about a TR on VP way more. and if you believed so strongly Cake was town, you could've town cased Cake, you can't, in hindsight, be all "told you so!!!"
My only issue, is that Gamma!Scum feels too easy, like, has Gamma seriously just played horribly this game?- Andante
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I didn't read anything after hammer. You're still scum, if anything, skimming Gamma's ISO has me believing even more it's you over ToogalooIn post 2048, VP Baltar wrote:Folks who replaced in at the end of the day....can we get your general reads now that you've had time to read the full game?- Andante
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SAME!!! lmaooo like, I feel good in my read I made yesterday, we flip gamma here, then VP tomorrow, and gg game over
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excuse me, how is not wanting to read 2000 posts a personal thing?
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hold up, you don't think VP is scum?In post 2056, Dwlee99 wrote:That's a list of who I think could be scum btw, and it's unordered- Andante
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It's a lot of ISO stuff, with how Gamma/Darby/Toog have interacted with VP, also look at the final wagon. VP stayed on Gamma. Gamma will flip red. Gamma was more obvious than Darby, it makes more sense to try and keep the vote with your obvious partner. Idk how you tr VPIn post 2060, Dwlee99 wrote:I've liked what I've read though- Andante
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Gamma/Darby/Toog's ISOs mostly, they have read as partner interactions, that's how I first suspected VP, and yeah, final wagon sealed the dealIn post 2064, Fun and Games wrote:kinda curious rn if Andante has the same reasons for thinking VP is a scumbag as I do- Andante
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In post 2069, Fun and Games wrote:Andante is either town or hacked into my mind somehow -.-- Andante
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In post 2015, Something_Smart wrote:
DArby was executed. He was a...
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Night 1 begins now and ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 02:00:00).
Actually, I was gonna give a "If gamma somehow flips town speech" but if gamma is town, it's toog and VP lmao like, Darby was not the leading wagon when I replaced in, gamma was leading, the wagon flipped to a darby lim. yeah, I legit think, upon joining, I had a 3/4 of gamma/vp/darby/toog. easyyyyy- Andante
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AND NO ONE LISTENED TO YOU???? Like, the interaction stuff is plain as day. so easy!!!In post 2074, Fun and Games wrote:
I've been saying this for like a week >.>In post 2070, Andante wrote:ok hold up, Darby's Gamma read is 100% textbook reading a partner, that's early ISO, means I think I got my VP read off of Gamma
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Like, honestly I know I just said "if gamma flips town" but I agreed with Darby scum off the gamma read, I don't think gamma can flip green here actually- Andante
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I wanna say I SRed dunn/toog more than VP thogh, I need to recall why, but that's a tomorrow thing, I guarantee you that you're gonna go tonight... yall have 2 brains, and both yall are awesome!! The solve still feels way too easy, it's never this easy...In post 2075, Fun and Games wrote:In post 2072, VP Baltar wrote:
So I'm scum because I was trying to flip someone who was red in your eyes, and arguably is more competent than Darby?In post 2065, Andante wrote:
It's a lot of ISO stuff, with how Gamma/Darby/Toog have interacted with VP, also look at the final wagon. VP stayed on Gamma. Gamma will flip red. Gamma was more obvious than Darby, it makes more sense to try and keep the vote with your obvious partner. Idk how you tr VPIn post 2060, Dwlee99 wrote:I've liked what I've read though
That's an insanely insulting read of my scum playing ability.
And what is the interaction with Gamma you're referring to? You mean where he screeched for my head and put a fake ass vote there for 20 pages?
if you're gonna fight with your scum buddy, you should do it in the scum pt instead of the main thread cuz it looks super fake when you do it in public- Andante
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In post 480, VP Baltar wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: dunn
Legit think there are two scum in (Dunn, Gamma, enchant, Ico)
Game is moving too fast and they can't keep with the pace. Sleeper scum in the actives.
Ico is darby, Dunn is toog
like, Dunn/Gamma/Ico, what is this early thought...
skitter, you really found something towny for toog? toog wasn't voting, sure it was a replace in, but if you replace in, you have some motivation to play, unless the leading wagon is your partner?- Andante
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True, unless you're not here/ don't actually think the wagon is gonna flip, if it's scum/scum you want the partner you think looks worse, and I don't think Darby even realized they looked as bad as they did. I'm kinda thinking gamma into toog here, and if that doesn't end game, reconsiderIn post 2091, Fun and Games wrote:You want to be on the wagon that goes through so you look good tommorrow and get to push the people on the other wagon.- Andante
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THERE WAS A DUNN PUSH? OMG lol give me a sec, ignore my past commentIn post 2095, Fun and Games wrote:there wasn't really a way for you to get an elimination outside of Darby/Gamma.
You guys tried to kill dunnstral but that didn't work out that well.- Andante
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lmao VP and Darby on dunn... that is funny. but, would both partners push someone? I don't think I've seen that, it's always like, a bad town idea that scum joins. like, 2 scum + 1 town? ehhhh
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ok, I'll trust you on that, something about VP isn't sitting right with me right now tbh, means we have someone else out there we need to be looking at, like, no way gamma doesn't flip red, that one is easy. Gamma/Darby (Ico) and who...In post 2098, Fun and Games wrote:Nah the way Gamma pushed back on my readslist strongly indicates its not a gamma/darby/tooge team imo
You're saying A50 flipped the momentum, literally can't be A50
Dwlee's "reads" seem so weird to me at the moment, 1 second I'm in their scum pool, next second "oh Andante town" like, what? I'm playing exactly like I did at eod- Andante
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LMAOOO love it!! I had limited time, less than I thought, we were close to eod, I skimmed ISOs, felt so good about town's top SRs, and I haven't felt like I had (or agreed) with good reads in so long!!In post 2103, Fun and Games wrote:it was like some sonic the hedgehog action- Andante
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Right, cause I come in, and instantly bus both my partnersIn post 2105, VP Baltar wrote:Andante is the last scum. Calling it now. No way town they come out this hard cherry picking and spamming stuff on the day Gamma is going down otherwise.
Pooky is just absolutely terrible at reading me and will shit tunnel the rest of the game.- Andante
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we did!! and I like it a lot!!, now I need to read VP's ISO all the way instead of just skimmingIn post 2104, Dwlee99 wrote:Andante you mind melded with f&g- Andante
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hahaha gottem To be fair, I did read Penguin, Penguin looks like an impossible read lol but yeah Penguin/Andante is townIn post 2109, Fun and Games wrote:I'd be sad if andante was mafia
cuz it'd mean skitter would pull ahead of me in the penguin reading contest.
but like she's so townie
so I really doubt that'll happen.
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town brd indeed!!!In post 78, PenguinPower wrote:
i iz town brd.In post 74, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ego
also hi skitter hi datisi hi ico hi vp baltar hi bingle hi gamma
pengy u better have rolled town this time cuz i miss being town with my best bird- Andante
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hold up, why is gamma not red?In post 2113, Enchant wrote:One of reasons why i even hammered is to protect Gamma from wagon, i am not pleased.- Andante
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Ico= DarbyIn post 182, Gamma Emerald wrote:Would it be wrong to townblock Datisi/Icon/VP already?
lmaoooo,
Pooky/skitter, does scum townblock both partners early game though?- Andante
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I get a sense he’s not worried about making a good impressionIn post 185, Datisi wrote:gamma, why do you think ico is town?- Andante
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LMAOOO YES!!! LOVE IT, I'm bringing this back
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who the heck is the last one. cause I just read an icon/dunn thing that has me thinking it can't be dunn, I'm thinking it's not VP
Gamma Emerald - Flipping red
VP Baltar - might be town
Toogeloo Dunnstral - honestly might be town
Bingle - I like 503, skimming this ISO, Bingle doesn't look bad to me, might be town
Enchant - starts off suggesting what roles town has, I see town do this a lot more than scum, with guessing about the setup, 1500- Sleepless feels like scum in that exchange. overall I think Enchant is town, my least confident townlean, but I'm ok looking elsewhere for now.
Fun and Games (skitter30 & PookyTheMagicalBear) - Town
Almost50 - I'm told A50 was the person who shifted momentum to darby, that makes A50 town
So now we're left with 2:
Dwlee99 Not_Mafia - Read is based on Dw: Honestly, "reads" felt fake, and said a lot of "happy to be here!!!" "excited to play!!!" "no time for reads" I could see this being the reaction of someone replacing into scum, I haven't read N_M, but NM is never an easy read for me
Sleepless Assassin - uhhh idk who this is tbh, I haven't read anything from them, they must be coasting, jk pulled up the ISO, 1846 feels like TMI knowing Toog town, 1956 tries to throw shade on me, like, so what I didn't have perfect reads upon replace in?
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In post 732, Gamma Emerald wrote:I could combat this wagon but idek what to even argue
so I'm just gonna do my own fucking thing until I die igIn post 737, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Unvote, Vote Gamma
This is better than Dunn. 732 feels more like someone who feels they have no value in this game once they're gone. I don't want to say survivalistic because it feels more like giving up but... I'm trying to think how to phrase this. Just the lack of any kind of "if I die do this" or "let me post some final reads" just feels like he thinks he's going down so his game is over. If that makes sense? It's hard to put words to it.In post 738, Gamma Emerald wrote:does nothing about my apathy level rn sink in for you?In post 739, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Pretty sure I just mentioned that.
It feels like scum thinking their partner looks worse than they actually do tbh like "I give up, who cares?" and sleepless acts like "they're not invested, they're flipping scum, flip it and TR me"- Andante
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Sleepless votes are interesting
Icon > Gamma > back to Icon when people started voting Gamma, and stayed there
So if we're right, Sleepless only voted partners. And considering Day 1 was a wagon between scum, looks like maf has no sense of working together. I'm beginning to think Sleepless fits the description for 3rd partner - Andante
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