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[Andante]

Can’t a guy just fuckign have fun

nope. no fun allowed.

[Andante]

who’s a cute widdle doggie

ME! ME! I AM!!!

[Andante]

Andante
Holiday

Right with Holiday you say? This game is like a fun holiday for me!! Only, there's some bad fish here trying to ruin it, we kick them out, then we party!!

[Andante]

how confident are you in those reads?

If they say anything like "Pretty - Super confident" I'm gonna be suspicious... 5 green when I hadn't even talked? bruh... cause I'm in the green pool. making 6 green. purple is like the phase before red? so basically 3 red, all else town. hahaha 13 people, I'm assuming 3 maf. APRIL HAS SOLVED THE GAME FOR US!!! WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR FOLKS???

[Andante]

Can’t a guy just fuckign have fun

i have no idea what reaction i should glean from this post

should have my reaction. if you take it seriously? I'm gonna throw you in the party police pile.

[Andante]

how confident are you in those reads?

Not confident enough to expect to be

wrong

right on all 3, confident enough that I don't think all 3 are in my greens.

So that post meant nothing? I'm a little concerned how you are CONFIDENT this early that out of 5 people, you "know" 3 aren't in it. Like, there has been so little that happened, most fish have no significant lines.... I'm not vibing with your reads, especially if you're basically saying you're sticking by them, should've outed some sort of reasoning with them instead of "I'll tell you later, but I think I'm right/on to something" suspicious.

[Andante]

what is andante doing

playing the game. what do you what from me?

[Andante]

I KNOW yall missed me when the game started but have no fear!!! doggo is here!!!

[Andante]

especially if you're basically saying you're sticking by them

You like to put words into people's mouths before they've said them, don't you?

I understand the feeling.

I mean, as a fellow person who will out a lot of reads/whatnot, I usually tr people who out reads/whatnot before me (with reasonings) but the timing, I don't get it, like, you color coded it, but why? what about when you posted it made it a good time to go "here's where my reads are at so far" when there was basically no genuine conversation in the first 100 posts? like, maybe if you wanna share reasons you scum lean people? like, if you SRed someone, wouldn't you want to start pushing them?? I'm trying to figure out your motivations here.

[Andante]

Can’t a guy just fuckign have fun

i have no idea what reaction i should glean from this post

should have my reaction. if you take it seriously? I'm gonna throw you in the party police pile.

the post definitely feels ai
i'm just not sure what alignment
i have some thoughts on this but i'll save them for later

I'm trying pretty hard to just not auto sr you lol like I'm pretty sure I sr you every game regardless of alignment, so this is a new game, new me. but this ain't helping. Like, sure I'm not towntelling super hard right now. I'm here for a good time!!! I'm definitely town this game though, and if you wanna sus me for something non game related go for it lol looks like everyone else is just gonna turbo you and we start the game tomorrow?

[Andante]

especially if you're basically saying you're sticking by them

You like to put words into people's mouths before they've said them, don't you?

I understand the feeling.

I mean, as a fellow person who will out a lot of reads/whatnot, I usually tr people who out reads/whatnot before me (with reasonings) but the timing, I don't get it, like, you color coded it, but why? what about when you posted it made it a good time to go "here's where my reads are at so far" when there was basically no genuine conversation in the first 100 posts? like, maybe if you wanna share reasons you scum lean people? like, if you SRed someone, wouldn't you want to start pushing them?? I'm trying to figure out your motivations here.

For starters, look what happened after I did to one of my middle reads.

You said a lot of "im not confident" and that was all? I'm confused at what you want me to look at?

[Andante]

Can’t a guy just fuckign have fun

i have no idea what reaction i should glean from this post

should have my reaction. if you take it seriously? I'm gonna throw you in the party police pile.

the post definitely feels ai
i'm just not sure what alignment
i have some thoughts on this but i'll save them for later

I'm trying pretty hard to just not auto sr you lol like I'm pretty sure I sr you every game regardless of alignment, so this is a new game, new me. but this ain't helping. Like, sure I'm not towntelling super hard right now. I'm here for a good time!!! I'm definitely town this game though, and if you wanna sus me for something non game related go for it lol looks like everyone else is just gonna turbo you and we start the game tomorrow?

i'm talking about gamma's post

you legit think "can a guy just have fun" is a serious post??? bruh... that post alone isn't alignment indicative, if you think it is, you are really digging

[Andante]

WELCOME TO THE PARTY NORWEE!!!! We are glad to have you!

[Andante]

If you're gonna keep doing this april, I'm gonna need explanation, what made you tr T3 more? cause I kinda sr T3 for trying to take the fun post seriously... yet apparently you TRed that?

[Andante]

APRIL YOU TOOK THE HOLIDAY AWAY FROM ME TOO!!! NO! NOT ALLOWED

VOTE: April

[Andante]

But on a serious note, like, if you expect me to remember your past read chart? fam. I just remember purple left, like, changing reads with no explanation? April, that is not helpful to anyone, so clearly you TR T3, but I want to know for what. Holiday got scummier? Holiday hasn't posted. Like this annoys me the most currently lol you refusing to explain anything, so after they flip town/scum you'll be all "oh it wasn't a strong read anyways" tell us your reasons now, because I'm not gonna deal with this.

[Andante]

Good morning!

GOOD MORNING!!!!!

[Andante]

you legit think "can a guy just have fun" is a serious post??? bruh... that post alone isn't alignment indicative, if you think it is, you are really digging

Ptobably a tone/emotion read

ehhh a weird post to read for tone lol but... I love having fun, so I probably viewed your post differently lol all these people hating fun....

[Andante]

I'm keeping my vote on April, it's a serious vote, not rvs. I like fun and games, but this aint vibing

[Andante]

I like Holiday! People who don't auto tr me are people trying to be careful about their reads! Like, I haven't really done anything significantly game related and I'm aware of it, I was waiting for the first person to point it out

[Andante]

I'm keeping my vote on April, it's a serious vote, not rvs. I like fun and games, but this aint vibing

What sort of vibe do you get from April?

Like, April is feeling weird, idk if I'd call it town or maf cause it's almost too bold to be maf tbh with these reads lists. But there is no towny point to it. When asked to explain a single read. we get nothing. April had T3 as scummy on first one, then a lot townier on the 2nd when T3 said suspicious stuff. Others ignoring April are making me think I'm right

[Andante]

andante's posts just don't feel believable

Which ones, and why? You have thoughts on Andante but you seem reticent to share them, but I think that Andante is a topic of discussion right now and your input would be best put to use now.

it's a general vibe
like andante is scum trying really hrd to be excited

You don't believe I'm happy to be here? that is genuine lol are all your reads vibe reads? do you ever read off content?

[Andante]

When asked to explain a single read. we get nothing.

You could respect my comment about explaining later instead of wanting everything now now now. Just a thought.

No. You changed the list, that is where I'm most concerned. What made T3 towny? I don't tr T3 right now, and I've been trying to ask you why you moved T3 closer to a TR

[Andante]

I'm keeping my vote on April, it's a serious vote, not rvs. I like fun and games, but this aint vibing

What sort of vibe do you get from April?

Like, April is feeling weird, idk if I'd call it town or maf cause it's almost too bold to be maf tbh with these reads lists. But there is no towny point to it. When asked to explain a single read. we get nothing. April had T3 as scummy on first one, then a lot townier on the 2nd when T3 said suspicious stuff. Others ignoring April are making me think I'm right

Why would other people ignoring April make you think you're right? Wouldn't the idea be that: if a general consensus makes little/no comment on the list, and the consensus is going to be majority town, that there's not issue to be found with the reads list?

I think there is a towny point to expressing early reads, even if there is little basis for them thus far. But I assume that there is something to it and it's not an arbitrary assignment.

April gave a list. ok whatever. T3 then proceeded to go "GAMMA IS SCUM FOR SAYING "guess fun isn't allowed"" then April move T3 to townier... Like, sure I don't tr gamma now, gamma is just coasting, but trying to push gamma as scum for the fun line??? it's a bad reason, yet april is all "T3 is town now!!!" So I want April to tell me why my scum lean on T3 is wrong, yet no... "I'll find out later" like what? do you have TMI and know? this is why I try to not take games seriously.... it's genuinely driving me crazy

[Andante]

I’m just wary of hyper tunneling FL and having us argue for 20 pages.
Because that’s kinda how all our games devolve into being.

#goodpost

#agreed

[Andante]

I need to step out for a bit, but it sounds like this is how April always plays, which is annoying :/ Cause yes, this would go on forever, even though it's like, help convince me t3 is town... t3 did something you think it towny, explain... common sense here if we're tying to find mafia, but whatever.

mafia can have doc

UNVOTE: April

[Andante]

Yeah, for my enjoyment I'm taking a break lol and I'll be back when others do something, otherwise I'll probably spend like 100 posts on this and get no where, I just like having fun!!! why is that too much to ask from people :/

[Andante]

What about that is even bad? if you read the context it literally isn't

[Andante]

> what was the motivation behind posting this post?
You act like it wasn't a response to what April was saying

> this is followed by a lot of very exaggerated posts and topped off by some faulty logic
like what?

> but i still think there's a good chance andante is scum.
we wanna play odds here? there's a 3/13 chance any single person here is scum. so if you're town, push on 10 people and you'll for sure have had 1, so post game you can go "I pushed scum!!!" congrats.

Considering you're actually voting me, and didn't look at the context, I don't think there's good intentions behind it.

Free Spirit, you like that post?

[Andante]

HIIII!!! All the party people are here? heck yeah!!!

[Andante]

hahahaha I am always doggo!!! No regrets XD lmao I still can't believe I was miller and clueless...

[Andante]

you know, normally i would ask why the fuck is andante so hung up on the reads lists, but seeing as this is andante i realize literally nothing good can come out of that, so i wont do that

this was not a question, please do not answer it

I have missed you too!!!!

[Andante]

I'm ignoring Jeff till later tbh

[Andante]

hold on a second, why the fuck am i town in aprils list? at that point i had posted 7 times and only written something about t3 being obvscum and myself being the oracle and really intoxicated

i'm not sure how any of that amounts to me being town

And you wanted to know why I was questioning the list? There's 2 lists and the changes to the 2nd make no sense unless the ranking isn't game related

[Andante]

What is happening??

[Andante]

hold on a second, why the fuck am i town in aprils list? at that point i had posted 7 times and only written something about t3 being obvscum and myself being the oracle and really intoxicated

i'm not sure how any of that amounts to me being town

And you wanted to know why I was questioning the list? There's 2 lists and the changes to the 2nd make no sense unless the ranking isn't game related

hmm i wonder if i asked a question as to why you were having a meltdown in response to the list...

you know, normally i would ask why the fuck is andante so hung up on the reads lists, but seeing as this is andante i realize literally nothing good can come out of that, so i wont do that

this was not a question, please do not answer it

oh look! i didnt!

oh how I've missed you my good friend!!!

[Andante]

i hope the rumors arent that im a complete dick

I think I've only played with you once. You fought a lot with me, but you were right and I was scum.

So if osuka is fighting with you this game you're scum. got it!

[Andante]

tbh green name scares me ._.

[Andante]

Day 1 in this game is going to be impossible to get decent reads isn't it.

probably, I mean everyone seems to be fine with april outing lists and changing them with no explanation, sooooo

[Andante]

tbh green name scares me ._.

Should wear off pretty quick when you realize how toothless of a game I play.

Also nice to meet you! I don't believe we've played together before

We shall see... I have noticed you're just kinda hiding in the shadows, like toothless the night fury ready to attack, kinda scary if I do say so

[Andante]

I'm ignoring Jeff till later tbh

You saying stuff like this hurts, you know. My most important questions in this thread are directed towards you. You not sparing the patience to deal with Hella jeff is already starting to feel frustrating.
Maybe this is futile, and our relationship is pointless. I don't think it is though, I do believe that we can work it out, but only if you really care about making it work, if this relationship is important to you. Please explain yourself.

I know you're not a monster.

Sent from my iPhone

Dear Jeff,

I am sorry. I care deeply about our relationship!
I do not mean for it to end!!! I was only saying that I couldn't understand something you said!

I am sincerely sorry for hurting your feelings, and hope you understand it wasn't intentional,
Andante

Sent from my iPhone

[Andante]

probably, I mean everyone seems to be fine with april outing lists and changing them with no explanation, sooooo

On the scale of annoying things he can (and probably will) do, it seems pretty mild.

hahaha oh no, I've never played with april before, sounds like I'm in for a good time!!!

[Andante]

Pizza is Knowledge

[Andante]

andante has been online twice since everything (my cases) unfolded and the conversation is already rapidly shifting away in only a day. unless andante comes in and explains, i am not budging an inch off this wagon. if this flips town, i accept the blame and im sorry but this is just far too scummy to me at this point. i can't shake the feeling that andante is just scum and scum are trying to change the topic. i also think the wagon is mostly pure.

lmaoooo game solved. I'm scum that's been caught. you are so smart!!! So from what I can tell, you've been pushing me, the only person not here, nonstop all game.

Yet I'm scum cause I was pushing april cause I was genuinely SRing T3 and April moved T3 up to more of a TR, and I was trying to ask for a reason for the change of read?

I am so glad the past 48 hours have been wasted lmao

[Andante]

Also, yall love to talk about me <3 I feel like I was missed!!!! I LOVE ALL OF YOU TOO!!!

I shouldn't be gone again, I missed yall!!! Not really vibing with the "Let's push the one not here" like what, what kind of reaction is the person gone for 2 days going to give?

"I just know she'll come back if we vote her" lmaooo I ran a half marathon and was dead after, knew I'd be dead, still sore today, but guess what.... IM HERE FOR MY FRIENDS )

[Andante]

PARTY'S OVER FOLKS

NO! THE PARTY HAS JUST BEGUN!!!!!

[Andante]

I skimmed what I missed earlier, and the only things that really stood out:

A) Yall did absolutely nothing but call me scum?
B) Aza has ONLY talked about me all game. and is literally death tunneling me, and I'm not sure if there's good intentions behind it, cause at what point would town go "I will tunnel Andante till the end of time, and basically ignore reading anyone else here" like, even for me, there's a point I'll just step back go, ok, maybe this read is wrong, let me look elsewhere. And especially changing the reasoning towards the end to "omg Andante has been on the site!! this is a fake v/la" omg, I was on and didn't post... I wonder how it got announced I went v/la... almost like I had to tell someone... we're so smart over here.

I'm struggling to get a genuine read on Aa, cause I'm really likely to just turn around and tunnel those tunneling me when there's no logic to it... but come on!!! 2 whole days of "Andante not town!!!" dude, so we flip me now, then what? I flip green and you go all "can't be me!!!" cause I hate to break it to you, I'm not scum lmao

[Andante]

Also, I have more posts than a lot of people here, so I'm not quite sure, why I MUST return for anything to happen, someone was even like "have them claim" like seriously? Is this a game town seriously would just want a massclaim d1? In WHAT WORLD does people instantly claiming help town?

[Andante]

No joke, the only things I read in the mess from the last 48 hours was all this talk about me... how is it so strange to believe I'd want to know why my SR is wrong... Why is it bad I answer a question for someone else with sarcasm? like seriously... A whole bunch of that was making me mad, well guess what Aza, I'm here now, say stuff to my face

[Andante]

am I really a LHF slot? dang... that's kinda sad not gonna lie

[Andante]

If there's anything actually important that happened please someone at least tell me who/what happened, but like, I genuinely don't think much more happened than Aza screaming I'm wolf, I mean yeah sure, doggo wolf, close enough, but all these "cases" COME ON... trying to make something out of nothing. Literally nothing was happening in the game, someone had a different read than me, I wanted to know why. this is like the 10th time I've said so, definitely said it back when it actually happened too, yet I'm being pushed and voted for nothing?

[Andante]

If there's anything actually important that happened please someone at least tell me who/what happened, but like, I genuinely don't think much more happened than Aza screaming I'm wolf, I mean yeah sure, doggo wolf, close enough, but all these "cases" COME ON... trying to make something out of nothing. Literally nothing was happening in the game, someone had a different read than me, I wanted to know why. this is like the 10th time I've said so, definitely said it back when it actually happened too, yet I'm being pushed and voted for nothing?

T3 spent 1 hour and 16 minutes reading Something_Smart ISOs and has come with the verdict that they are

TOWN

LMAOOOO WAIT WHAT?

[Andante]

I'll look into that, I just skimmed SS's ISO and saw nothing that screams town to me, like, more null than anything, idk how anyone spend 76 minutes on that lmaoooo

[Andante]

I just tried to meta ss and got nothing except general just different vibes between scum and town games. This game he’s got the *town vibe* so that’s good I guess?

lmao, does anyone here have a good iso?

[Andante]

Cause skimming T3, it's just "meta this, meta that" "town post" "vibes" for someone with almost 100 posts, I want actual content...

[Andante]

but I have a real strong suspicion the only "content" in 600 posts is "OMG ANDANTE HAS TO BE SCUM!!"

[Andante]

Andante (2) NorwegianboyEE, T3

I demand reasons please Norwee and T3. Reasons said to my face are preferable. Thank you.

[Andante]

but I have a real strong suspicion the only "content" in 600 posts is "OMG ANDANTE HAS TO BE SCUM!!"

Do you have any other reads to talk about?

No cause there is literally nothing of significance. I still sr T3, like I did at the start, I saw April tried to explain the townyness or something, but I don't see it, and everyone else has been coasting/chilling and kinda joining the push on me for 0 reason.

[Andante]

Andante (2) NorwegianboyEE, T3

I demand reasons please Norwee and T3. Reasons said to my face are preferable. Thank you.

I am also voting you currently and have an explanation as to why. After you speak about other slots, you can visit that as well if you want.

Please share why I'm the best lim here. Like I don't mind going if it gets town closer to finding scum tomorrow, but limming me is giving no information lmao

[Andante]

Cause skimming T3, it's just "meta this, meta that" "town post" "vibes" for someone with almost 100 posts, I want actual content...

What do you consider to be actual content?

idk, like an actual push on someone for a legit reason... all the stuff on me is garbage, and it quite literally looks like I'm the only person people talked about, which doesn't help me at all cause unlike a lot of the folks here, I actually want to find scum, and am not known for accuracy in my reads, yet everyone going "ANDANTE SCUM!" doesn't help me at all here

[Andante]

Andante (2) NorwegianboyEE, T3

I demand reasons please Norwee and T3. Reasons said to my face are preferable. Thank you.

Ok.

*Moves uncomfortably close to your face and whispers"

"...I think you've been scummy buddy"

Ok what part? the fact I was busy for 2 days? wow real life happened. so scummy. Trying to ask why someone had a different read than me? so scummy.

[Andante]

I’m also not eliminating for information, but to kill scum. If you’re town, can you please give us something to work with/dialogue more on?

WHAT ARE YOU WANTING FROM ME SPECIFICALLY?

[Andante]

Ok, I'm ignoring these people deadset on tunneling me, whatever, Jeff I'll answer you in a sec, Holiday/Norwee do not seem to have good intentions at all right now

also, I troly appreciate waiting for me to enter to pounce on me and attack me for all the wrong I've done. How I talk? this is me, it's how I play, if you hate it? not my problem

[Andante]

Ok actually, I hate this, you are all literally ganging up on me right now, I'm trying my best to adress concerns. "You feel very reactiony" like what the heck is that supposed to me??? I see ESSAYS written as to why I'm maf, yet no one even cared to look at the basis for it? I have 4 votes on me, I knew I had a lot, I liked it better when people just insta voted me before I got the chance to come back

[Andante]

idk, like an actual push on someone for a legit reason...

What makes a reason legit?

Like, a legit reason, not trying to make stuff up I said to call me maf? people clearly have issues with the way I talk over here. like, I can't change my talking style, and the entire table ganging up on me doesn't help

[Andante]

"I expect you to come back with perfect reads" yeah right. whatever.

[Andante]

Andante (2) NorwegianboyEE, T3

I demand reasons please Norwee and T3. Reasons said to my face are preferable. Thank you.

i said that i agreed with azaariah, what else do you want?

WHAT PART DID YOU AGREE WITH? THAT ENTIRE FREAKING "CASE" IS GARBAGE. BASED ON STUFF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

[Andante]

oh. my. freaking. goodness.... I HAVE SAID IT LIKE 20 TIMES ALREADY....

[Andante]

no one reads anything I say? that's great to know.

[Andante]

maybe I need to be more like Dwlee or gerain and just say nothing instead of actually put in effort.

[Andante]

VOTE: Holiday

[Andante]

Cause skimming T3, it's just "meta this, meta that" "town post" "vibes" for someone with almost 100 posts, I want actual content...

but I have a real strong suspicion the only "content" in 600 posts is "OMG ANDANTE HAS TO BE SCUM!!"

Do you have any other reads to talk about?

No cause there is literally nothing of significance. I still sr T3, like I did at the start, I saw April tried to explain the townyness or something, but I don't see it, and everyone else has been coasting/chilling and kinda joining the push on me for 0 reason.

Dwlee has provided

much less

content than I have.
This post just doesn't come in good faith and Andante/Dwlee might be s/s together.

Dwlee also only has 1/5 the posts you have

[Andante]

Cause skimming T3, it's just "meta this, meta that" "town post" "vibes" for someone with almost 100 posts, I want actual content...

What do you consider to be actual content?

idk, like an actual push on someone for a legit reason... all the stuff on me is garbage, and it quite literally looks like I'm the only person people talked about, which doesn't help me at all cause unlike a lot of the folks here, I actually want to find scum, and am not known for accuracy in my reads, yet everyone going "ANDANTE SCUM!" doesn't help me at all here

you might think it's garbage, i don't think it's garbage

What is good about it?

April gave 2 lists, I asked for what made you towny, that's quite literally it. I answered a question for someone, yes, sarcastically.

I seriously don't freaking get it... Everyone expects me to what? be like "A B AND C ARE MAFIA BECAUSE X" like, how the heck am I supposed to have any clue, when all you have to do is tunnel me and I fight back, and pretty much everyone here knows that.

[Andante]

Gamma town, I love Gamma so much right now, SS is fairly good too, they're the only ones trying to let me breathe and not death tunnel me... notice how everyone appeared after I entered? yeah waiting to attack... like sharks in this ocean... bye bye sharks

[Andante]

idk, like an actual push on someone for a legit reason...

What makes a reason legit?

Like, a legit reason, not trying to make stuff up I said to call me maf? people clearly have issues with the way I talk over here. like, I can't change my talking style, and the entire table ganging up on me doesn't help

>_>
okay then i'll actually meta you

you spent 76 minutes on SS meta and got nothing, what makes me even think you'll find anything on my meta? plus I haven't played in a while, so whatever

[Andante]

Spoiler:

VOTE: murdercat

Eliminate all cats!!!

I have changed my avatar to represent our team! Go doggos!!

whaaatttt you must be mistaken!!! I am no enemy....

I love Chara!!!!

I'd say we trust lizards for now... cats are the number 1 enemy

oh wait, is it cause I refuse to fall under your rule?

andante i'm a town dolphin this time what about you

I'm a town doggo!!! WOOF WOOF

Anya I want questions!!!

@andante

can you explain:

why you joined the dog alliance
why you called yourself andante
why you're a wolf
why you voted for nero cain
why you're lurking and not answering my questions

YEESSS

why you joined the dog alliance- WOOF WOOF WOOF BARK WOOF
why you called yourself andante - BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
why you're a wolf- AWOOOOOOOOOO
why you voted for nero cain- WOOF BARK BARK WOOF WOOF
why you're lurking and not answering my questions- WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

@cakez u don't have to worry too much about me hyperposting. I will be alot less active starting tomorrow till weekend. This is day off. I also have interview/final exam and normal working hours this week so yeah...wont be spamming like my usual stuff. I think right now everyone will be posting alot and speed will die down in 24 hours after excitement of game start gets over with.

@chara good. all going according to my plan

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

I'm glad you love my posts!!

non doggos rise up

i will be the chameleon shepherd to lead us to greatness and wipe these dogs off the face of this farm

Woah there... we can't have a rebellion happening!!!

VOTE: Anya

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

i liked Andante's very first post where i was complimented and the avatar was different, so absolutely no biases here.

You should also be in the high doggo ranks!!

A bear has appeared...

but I like the "death to all cats"

Pooky always looking at the bright side of life! Spoken like a true doggo!!! I think he's actually one of us!

all dogs must be killed to death

such a shame that we outnumber you

andante has a stroke by page 2 but has noticeabely less of a stroke and does not recover from said stroke

yeah what about it? They turbo'd me, as town, d2, a lot of this table was there.

[Andante]

Spoiler:

VOTE: murdercat

Eliminate all cats!!!

I have changed my avatar to represent our team! Go doggos!!

whaaatttt you must be mistaken!!! I am no enemy....

I love Chara!!!!

I'd say we trust lizards for now... cats are the number 1 enemy

oh wait, is it cause I refuse to fall under your rule?

andante i'm a town dolphin this time what about you

I'm a town doggo!!! WOOF WOOF

Anya I want questions!!!

@andante

can you explain:

why you joined the dog alliance
why you called yourself andante
why you're a wolf
why you voted for nero cain
why you're lurking and not answering my questions

YEESSS

why you joined the dog alliance- WOOF WOOF WOOF BARK WOOF
why you called yourself andante - BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
why you're a wolf- AWOOOOOOOOOO
why you voted for nero cain- WOOF BARK BARK WOOF WOOF
why you're lurking and not answering my questions- WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

@cakez u don't have to worry too much about me hyperposting. I will be alot less active starting tomorrow till weekend. This is day off. I also have interview/final exam and normal working hours this week so yeah...wont be spamming like my usual stuff. I think right now everyone will be posting alot and speed will die down in 24 hours after excitement of game start gets over with.

@chara good. all going according to my plan

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

I'm glad you love my posts!!

non doggos rise up

i will be the chameleon shepherd to lead us to greatness and wipe these dogs off the face of this farm

Woah there... we can't have a rebellion happening!!!

VOTE: Anya

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

i liked Andante's very first post where i was complimented and the avatar was different, so absolutely no biases here.

You should also be in the high doggo ranks!!

A bear has appeared...

but I like the "death to all cats"

Pooky always looking at the bright side of life! Spoken like a true doggo!!! I think he's actually one of us!

all dogs must be killed to death

such a shame that we outnumber you

andante has a stroke by page 2 but has noticeabely less of a stroke and does not recover from said stroke

yeah what about it? They turbo'd me, as town, d2, a lot of this table was there.

this was early day 1

What are you trying to say about that game? If you even looked at the context that stuff was said in, it's fine... I was having fun, people were laughing. I like games where I have fun. shocking I know

[Andante]

Spoiler:

VOTE: murdercat

Eliminate all cats!!!

I have changed my avatar to represent our team! Go doggos!!

whaaatttt you must be mistaken!!! I am no enemy....

I love Chara!!!!

I'd say we trust lizards for now... cats are the number 1 enemy

oh wait, is it cause I refuse to fall under your rule?

andante i'm a town dolphin this time what about you

I'm a town doggo!!! WOOF WOOF

Anya I want questions!!!

@andante

can you explain:

why you joined the dog alliance
why you called yourself andante
why you're a wolf
why you voted for nero cain
why you're lurking and not answering my questions

YEESSS

why you joined the dog alliance- WOOF WOOF WOOF BARK WOOF
why you called yourself andante - BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
why you're a wolf- AWOOOOOOOOOO
why you voted for nero cain- WOOF BARK BARK WOOF WOOF
why you're lurking and not answering my questions- WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

@cakez u don't have to worry too much about me hyperposting. I will be alot less active starting tomorrow till weekend. This is day off. I also have interview/final exam and normal working hours this week so yeah...wont be spamming like my usual stuff. I think right now everyone will be posting alot and speed will die down in 24 hours after excitement of game start gets over with.

@chara good. all going according to my plan

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

I'm glad you love my posts!!

non doggos rise up

i will be the chameleon shepherd to lead us to greatness and wipe these dogs off the face of this farm

Woah there... we can't have a rebellion happening!!!

VOTE: Anya

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

i liked Andante's very first post where i was complimented and the avatar was different, so absolutely no biases here.

You should also be in the high doggo ranks!!

A bear has appeared...

but I like the "death to all cats"

Pooky always looking at the bright side of life! Spoken like a true doggo!!! I think he's actually one of us!

all dogs must be killed to death

such a shame that we outnumber you

andante has a stroke by page 2 but has noticeabely less of a stroke and does not recover from said stroke

yeah what about it? They turbo'd me, as town, d2, a lot of this table was there.

this was early day 1

What are you trying to say about that game? If you even looked at the context that stuff was said in, it's fine... I was having fun, people were laughing. I like games where I have fun. shocking I know

true. looking at your later posts, even on day 2 you were still joking around a lot
there was quite a bit of content in there too, also
my scumread on you is waning after reading that though

I'm glad a game I was screaming "IM A DOG" has convinced you.. I've seen a lot of "x is town, y is town, this is towny" from you, so who isn't town?

[Andante]

I think the point about Azaar not having done anything except just talking about Andante is interesting, but i fail to see it really being all that scummy.
Focusing on a single player isn't an inherently scummy trait.

What has Aza done except tunnel me? and repeat the same thing over and over?

[Andante]

Spoiler:

VOTE: murdercat

Eliminate all cats!!!

I have changed my avatar to represent our team! Go doggos!!

whaaatttt you must be mistaken!!! I am no enemy....

I love Chara!!!!

I'd say we trust lizards for now... cats are the number 1 enemy

oh wait, is it cause I refuse to fall under your rule?

andante i'm a town dolphin this time what about you

I'm a town doggo!!! WOOF WOOF

Anya I want questions!!!

@andante

can you explain:

why you joined the dog alliance
why you called yourself andante
why you're a wolf
why you voted for nero cain
why you're lurking and not answering my questions

YEESSS

why you joined the dog alliance- WOOF WOOF WOOF BARK WOOF
why you called yourself andante - BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
why you're a wolf- AWOOOOOOOOOO
why you voted for nero cain- WOOF BARK BARK WOOF WOOF
why you're lurking and not answering my questions- WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

@cakez u don't have to worry too much about me hyperposting. I will be alot less active starting tomorrow till weekend. This is day off. I also have interview/final exam and normal working hours this week so yeah...wont be spamming like my usual stuff. I think right now everyone will be posting alot and speed will die down in 24 hours after excitement of game start gets over with.

@chara good. all going according to my plan

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

I'm glad you love my posts!!

non doggos rise up

i will be the chameleon shepherd to lead us to greatness and wipe these dogs off the face of this farm

Woah there... we can't have a rebellion happening!!!

VOTE: Anya

im really enjoying all of andante posts and don''t know how much is due to avatar lol

i liked Andante's very first post where i was complimented and the avatar was different, so absolutely no biases here.

You should also be in the high doggo ranks!!

A bear has appeared...

but I like the "death to all cats"

Pooky always looking at the bright side of life! Spoken like a true doggo!!! I think he's actually one of us!

all dogs must be killed to death

such a shame that we outnumber you

andante has a stroke by page 2 but has noticeabely less of a stroke and does not recover from said stroke

yeah what about it? They turbo'd me, as town, d2, a lot of this table was there.

this was early day 1

What are you trying to say about that game? If you even looked at the context that stuff was said in, it's fine... I was having fun, people were laughing. I like games where I have fun. shocking I know

true. looking at your later posts, even on day 2 you were still joking around a lot
there was quite a bit of content in there too, also
my scumread on you is waning after reading that though

I'm glad a game I was screaming "IM A DOG" has convinced you.. I've seen a lot of "x is town, y is town, this is towny" from you, so who isn't town?

i'm not sure yet. my style of play is to form a poe and go from there.

So who are the names towards the bottom of your poe then? people who haven't talked?

[Andante]

tbh it makes me feel better that even though you don't tr me, you have aza with me XD
but I kinda want to go in norwee/holiday here, something tells me going in there is good

[Andante]

but I kinda want to go in norwee/holiday here, something tells me going in there is good

Seems like an odd choice based on who you've been ranting about these last pages.

Seems like a great choice to me, the 2 of you are acting the exact same, and ganging up against me, one yall could be town, but there is no freaking way you both are.

[Andante]

1. Almost50 - town but depends on meta
2. Azaariah - poe
3. Andante - poe
4. geraintm - not limming today
5. Dwlee99 - poe
6. Holiday - lean town
7. osuka - poe
8. T3
9. Free Spirit NorwegianBoyEE - town
10. Hella Jeff - town
11. Gamma Emerald - poe
12. April Ludgate - town
13. Something_Smart - lean town

this is not a poe KEKW

welcome to the club!

[Andante]

tbh it makes me feel better that even though you don't tr me, you have aza with me XD
but I kinda want to go in norwee/holiday here, something tells me going in there is good

nope
norwee/holiday both town imo

idk, I can't think when people are messing with me, like, both of them, identical, seem to do a lot more of "well you're not doing anything" rather than do stuff themselves, idk.

[Andante]

"Let's push the one not here"

unfortunately for you, when i first posted my case against you, you were not at all inactive. you even replied to my case shortly after. i chose to hash out the case afterwards which would've happened regardless of if you were here. this isn't about me pushing you because you're inactive. that's clearly not the case because i started this push on page 8 when you were active.

Excuse me, it 100% turned into "lets vote Andante for not posting" do I need to quote it?

[Andante]

so you just randomly change your mind on reads over time?

What are you trying to get at?? I was referring to, if all I have done is tunnel someone, I'll take a step back and think about if I'm tunneling to tunnel and win an argument, or if I actually think that person is scummy

[Andante]

Why is it bad I answer a question for someone else with sarcasm?

people giving reads early in the game isn't exactly a strange thing. it makes no sense to be replying "with sarcasm"

People TRing someone who has been scummy is a strange thing, and the question was definitely worth sarcasm, like someone asking april how confident, yeah I felt like answering, what you gonna do about it? hate? cool.

[Andante]

i am not satisfied with andantes posts.

Why should I care? I'm not satisfied with the pushes on me, nor the reasoning behind them.

[Andante]

I think SS here is kinda suspicious, like the way he was asking me questions/whatnot, just enough to be like "hey I'm contributing" but honestly, he's always here, yet never seems to have significant thoughts, seems to avoid any major conversation, mostly tried to stay out of aza/I.. idk something seems off about ss

[Andante]

Cause skimming T3, it's just "meta this, meta that" "town post" "vibes" for someone with almost 100 posts, I want actual content...

What do you consider to be actual content?

idk, like an actual push on someone for a legit reason...

What makes a reason legit?

this is not a poe KEKW

It sure looks like one to me...

This feels like scum to me, like, none of these posts are doing anything!!! but hey, T3 calls SS town... T3 and SS scum, thank me later

[Andante]

which are almost all entirely on you

oh I'm well aware

[Andante]

I think SS here is kinda suspicious, like the way he was asking me questions/whatnot, just enough to be like "hey I'm contributing" but honestly, he's always here, yet never seems to have significant thoughts, seems to avoid any major conversation, mostly tried to stay out of aza/I.. idk something seems off about ss

The irony of you whining about people attacking you for playstyle and then posting this.

Yeah see, I'm ignoring all that, I hate being tunneled, that's whatever, but I've had time to collect my thoughts, and I do think you and T3 are a team. Everyone else is all focused on me, so that one is whatever, you 2, feel like partners, idk how to explain it, Individually, both yall scummy. but if I actually look at it, I can see you 2 as partners. but the question is, who is number 3.

[Andante]

Also, SS, notice how you only talk after I go "I really don't think SS is town" mhm.. suspicious, I think you know aza and I are tvt, you're staying out of it, letting us nail the other one's coffin closed only to get the opposing one tomorrow or something, cause T3 put us both in poe. Like, I think I'm on to something

[Andante]

I may not agree with aza at all, and aza may hate my guts, but that's not my focus. Norwee/Holiday were just being annoying earlier, I think I'm actually standing by SS and T3 as both flipping scum.

[Andante]

My point is you're scumreading me for my playstyle.

Please knock it off.

No, see, it's not exactly your playstyle, it's more, I sr one person, T3, think about interactions with people, such as you, and how you've interacted with T3, bam! I think Dwlee could be 3rd. Dwlee hasn't talked much, but T3 seems fascinated with Dwlee, bam!! IM PRO LEGGOOOOO T3/SS/Dwlee 3/3 gg. good game. game over.

[Andante]

Also, SS, notice how you only talk after I go "I really don't think SS is town"

Are you actually giving me shit for staying out of the discussion that you asked people to stay out of because you (rightly) felt you were being dogpiled?

no!!! I appreciated it!!

[Andante]

why do you immediately jump to "T3 is scum defending his buddy SS"?

from my t3 convo earlier, like, T3 "meta read" SS and "meta read" me. for me, T3 quoted stuff, I didn't see much from T3's SS read, it feels like a lazy attempt at like "hey let me read my partner, cool partner is town. just trust" and T3 was calling me/dwlee scum, like, what? why are you bringing someone with no lines into it??

[Andante]

No, see, it's not exactly your playstyle, it's more, I sr one person, T3, think about interactions with people, such as you, and how you've interacted with T3, bam!

I mean, that's fair. You're welcome to come after me if T3 flips red. But doing it now seems pretty backward.

I'll probably have to read into other team options before we flip someone today, but this is essentially how I get my reads, partner interactions. It's just hard when there's not a whole lot of interactions amongst people

[Andante]

everyone stop posting. close this tab. take a break. please

Why are you saying this now that the conversation has finally moved to a productive place?

Cause everyone LOVES when I'm here, and we're all talking trying to solve, yet when I leave, we need to shift the attention to "omg Andante isn't here!!! time to push them!!!" and as I noticed, conversation was mega dead while I was gone lmaoooo

(also, definitely not flipping you today, I'll be getting your partner you're pretty cool, so you'll live another day, not that I'd have to fight to save you cause these folks are sheep... and will follow anyone)

[Andante]

Aza, you'll be fine, just skip over my lines, and bam! caught up. You can ISO me later if your heart desires, but like, instead of writing paragraphs about me, I'm here now. why not spend the time asking me stuff? And maybe I can help clear up your concerns, otherwise I'll just give all my wild theories.

[Andante]

can we vote az for acting like they want to help but not actually posting anything helpful

We can vote whoever we want for whatever reason we want

[Andante]

I'll probably have to read into other team options before we flip someone today, but this is essentially how I get my reads, partner interactions. It's just hard when there's not a whole lot of interactions amongst people

Imo using partner interactions between unflipped players is... ambitious. It's not like it can't be made to work, but I usually don't see it accomplishing much especially early on.

But you do you, and I think this is the kind of content everyone wants to see from you. Just don't try to push me for something T3 did unless he's dead and flipped scum.

(And fwiw I agree that his meta read is really weird and eyebrow-raising. It reminds me of this. I would like to hear him elaborate on it if at all possible.)

LMAOOOO I definitely laughed way too hard at:
"I don't know what I expected out of this game but it was not to become conftown on page 6."


See here's the thing though on my reads, the only point in this game where I'll be right, is through this, but it is extremely easy to talk me out of them/convince me I'm wrong. Like obviously this SS/T3/Dwlee thing. I'm not 100% sold, I don't have any flips, basically no content from Dwlee, and almost no interactions amongst yall, but like hey, we're only 3 days into this D1, not quite sure why anyone is expecting high quality posts/reads from anyone, most don't even have 50 posts, I missed 2 days and basically have the most... lmaoo some could argue I talk a lot, but we're going places!!! Have no fear, by the end of this (unless people wanna yeet me quickly again) I should have settled on my top 3, and have giant cases as to why each is clearly scum, I'm definitely an ambitious person XD but I still like having fun, I am SO SAD no one else joine on to any of my fish comments this game... none yall like making comments about flavor? I see why we're all getting along so well!!!

[Andante]

but i am also so weak to ate.

I really don't care much for the AtE earlier.

I unironically think Andante looks slightly better now because she's actually posting some reads and thoughts, even if i don't really agree but whatever.

Look, we don't have to agree on everything right now, all that matters is by the end of this, we agree on a lim.

[Andante]

I am SO SAD no one else joine on to any of my fish comments this game... none yall like making comments about flavor? I see why we're all getting along so well!!!

No no. I have a really big joke coming up. I just haven't had a good opportunity to post it yet.

AHHH YES!!! I'm so excited ) Norwee is town for now yall!!!

[Andante]

i actually have to go right now but i thought it was getting tense again so posted that. i'll be back tomorrow. i have a ton of things of do tonight.

I am slightly concerned by aza... Like, I'm here, Aza's entire game has been dedicated to going "Andante scum!!" Asked everyone to be quiet while they caught up, then has to leave again. Like, nothing wrong with leaving, but, I'm here now? did you want me? hello? darkness my old friend.... Also usually when people say they're rereading, they'll say SOMETHING about what they read, like, give some sort of takeaway from it. kinda suspicious if I do say so, now. who would the partners possibly be is the real question

[Andante]

Ok, but here's the issue on that, I don't even strongly believe Aza maf? like, I'm looking at this giant case on me, super early on. is this normal for aza? Like ughhh hang on, need to go meta read Aza for 1 hour 16 minutes, just to see, like, I sensed some genuine towniness like "oh... Andante is back, maybe they are town" idk!! this leaving thing, and saying nothing about anything read is odd to me, not gonna lie

[Andante]

Update: Aza has no meta. No other games.
uhhh if Aza is genuinely new, I don't see a new person casing at all, so that idea goes out the window. Reading what Aza has this game so far doesn't help me, I need more, cause for the most part the casing stuff I'd write off as town, but parts of it are odd. Ok need a new soul to dig into.

[Andante]

Ok, not gonna lie, I was going down the list for "who has posted the most" and landed on Jeff. The more I think about it, the more I can't get it out of my head, then looking at the ISO, Jeff + Aza is looking real plausible.

T3 (5) Dwlee99, osuka, Hella Jeff, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald [E-2]

HOW did i NOT NOTICE THIS AHAHAHA

That instant T3 wagon is interesting as well, Jeff had an initial comment about not liking Gamma's alt hunting, early game. I know this wagon was RVS, and this is said without looking at Gamma's ISO, but possibly Aza/Jeff/Gamma as a team. Like "oh haha partner, you're scummy for alt hunting!!" Jeff is gonna be a hard read, I have that feeling, but there's something odd about Jeff's ISO, like ok sure, gimmick, but like, his lines, there's no focus anywhere, seems to be getting by by just aimlessly talking. I could be wrong about Aza/Gamma as partners, but he quotes Aza a LOT compared to the other lines

[Andante]

And kinda funny how, just like Aza... no other games to compare Jeff to :/ Like, I can only put in so much effort here, with people not talking, and people having nothing to compare to, if this continues, I'm down to just lim whoever spoke the least and go "YOLO"

[Andante]

6 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes for people to do stuff. Fun

[Andante]

can we vote az for acting like they want to help but not actually posting anything helpful

We can vote whoever we want for whatever reason we want

I’m saying that’s what y’all

should

be doing

Ok, if that's what we should do, what do you

want

to do?

[Andante]

6 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes for people to do stuff. Fun

More like 6 days for Scum to wagon Town and get claims, and 20h 45m for Town to rush a deadline mislin

hahaha the accuracy of that is way too real. It's always a last minute "QUCIK WHO CAN WE GET!?!?!"

[Andante]

And kinda funny how, just like Aza... no other games to compare Jeff to :/ Like, I can only put in so much effort here, with people not talking, and people having nothing to compare to, if this continues, I'm down to just lim whoever spoke the least and go "YOLO"

I’d rather not just default to: "posted the least" slots.

I know I know!!! I'm just saying, it's a tad frustrating when I feel like the only one trying, and people are listening, but no one else is bouncing ideas off ._. it's like, hmmmm if I randomly guess, call 3 people maf, get it right, and am right... I'm pro

[Andante]

I’m already voting azaariah for that exact reason

I'll wait for Aza to return, there's not exactly a rush, but like, they're busy, ok cool, I understand, and once they're back, I wanna have a conversation, cause ultimately whoever we lim today, I want their reads, thoughts on stuff, anything to help tomorrow.

[Andante]

Idk who to vote anymore and that makes me want to end the day. But if i don’t know eho to vote then the day won’t end.

Shucks.

The endless cycle that always ends in the final hours of the day with "Who do we have, and who can we vote with the votes we have, and we hope it flips red!!!"

[Andante]

6 days, 20 hours, 45 minutes for people to do stuff. Fun

More like 6 days for Scum to wagon Town and get claims, and 20h 45m for Town to rush a deadline mislin

Oh look, mr cheerful over here.

Thanks, buddy. I promise I will make you mayor of Trondheim once my plot to take over the world pays dividends

Hold up... Norwee gets to be mayor?? Need a town doggo?

[Andante]

Wait y'all

I just realized

When people were townreading me why did no one mention I'm Miller

Seriously it was in my first post. Are y'all reading or just posting?

Is the plan to just claim miller and do nothing else?

[Andante]

Is the plan to just claim miller and do nothing else?

Correct!

So like hypothetically speaking, If I was a cop, I should check you yes?

[Andante]

It's not jeff and gamma. hahahaha there is no way these 2 are partners, Jeff who are you thinking is town?

[Andante]

Just used my 1 shot instant action day cop ability. Dwlee is guilty. gg gottem

[Andante]

UNVOTE: Holiday

just so no one does anything dumb while I'm sleeping, I'm unvoting, plus it's not even a genuine vote

[Andante]

okay
kinda curious what T3 is looking for from me, not saying he should have me as town but he started off saying he didn't know how to read what I was doing and hasn't really progressed past that

I just don't townread you.

But you TR ss?

[Andante]

omg woah Gamma!! You have 59 THOUSAND posts?? wow... That is crazy lol I should definitely be able to go read past games to help figure out your alignment

[Andante]

It's not jeff and gamma. hahahaha there is no way these 2 are partners, Jeff who are you thinking is town?

i'm still definitely content on townreading a50 and holiday, i think a50's play has felt pure and 'individual', as incredibly vague as those two terms are. i don't think it's something i can articulate without actually sitting down for it
i haven't called out every instance of it (but i can if asked) but i've melded with holiday more than once. lots of agreement, same reactions to specific posts its like god damn!

then i get below and it gets super shaky.
{andante, T3, azaariah} are a tier below, but while

all three of them are in wagons

, honestly can't look at them badly right now, i think all of them have shown genuine conviction in game-specific topics
and uh sure i'll take dwlee's claim at face value
that's my top 7

Ooh I really like this post, it's good, like, I think this single post sends you to the top of my TRs, it's just the way you answered my question, I really do like it, and I think I'm gonna look more into your TRs tomorrow, and if I have questions I'll ask, cause if I can figure out town, the scum pool gets smaller, and ultimately that's gonna make life so much easier. But I really do love how you answered "who's town" it's so much better than "well idk" which is how I feel some others would've answered. I also have this feeling with a handful of Holiday posts, like "Holiday has to be town" but like, it scares me, I'd almost bet it's the same posts as you, but there's certain posts that stand out a lot, I think that list and Something_Smart (ss sounds too much like a snake, and no snakes here! only fish) contains most if not all town, possibly norwee too. Then that leaves April, gamma, gerain, osuka, and in that I get good vibes from Gamma, osuka, I think was maf in the game I played, I need to check, but osuka seems to be almost identical to the last normal game I played, looking that up real quick... yes, osuka maf this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86324 and I think osuka is playing very similar, if not the same way. YOOOO I think we're on to something here!!!

hahaha sorry I just kept going, letting my brain flow, this is something I'm 100% revisiting tomorrow, but I did link the osuka maf game, however, I think a lot of it is just osuka's personality, so mehhh I don't think I ever SRed osuka that game hahaha ok goodnight yall!! I don't need to start going into Complex Mafia Theory tonight, cause let me tell yall... I could go on forever about some stupid thing. ahhhhh ok, agreeing with jeff, turned into a brain dump, and with that. Goodnight friends!!!!

[Andante]

Aza your giant speech on me made me so freaking sad... it sounded like you were just wanting me dead cause I talk a lot, but like, when I'm not talking, this stuff feels super dead, I bring LIFE!!!!

(Also, going "I don't care if andante flips town, it's better for the gamestate" is a terrible motto to live by, also if you're town, there is no freaking reason as to why you should be discussing my possible role here)


And one more thing, how often do scum fake claim miller?
Cause I was thinking about that miller thing, and due to my past experiences, "miller" has me scarred lol, only takes getting yelled at once for not claiming it to have that just set in stone in your mind lol

[Andante]

It's not jeff and gamma. hahahaha there is no way these 2 are partners, Jeff who are you thinking is town?

i'm still definitely content on townreading a50 and holiday, i think a50's play has felt pure and 'individual', as incredibly vague as those two terms are. i don't think it's something i can articulate without actually sitting down for it
i haven't called out every instance of it (but i can if asked) but i've melded with holiday more than once. lots of agreement, same reactions to specific posts its like god damn!

then i get below and it gets super shaky.
{andante, T3, azaariah} are a tier below, but while

all three of them are in wagons

, honestly can't look at them badly right now, i think all of them have shown genuine conviction in game-specific topics
and uh sure i'll take dwlee's claim at face value
that's my top 7

Ooh I really like this post, it's good, like, I think this single post sends you to the top of my TRs, it's just the way you answered my question, I really do like it, and I think I'm gonna look more into your TRs tomorrow, and if I have questions I'll ask, cause if I can figure out town, the scum pool gets smaller, and ultimately that's gonna make life so much easier. But I really do love how you answered "who's town" it's so much better than "well idk" which is how I feel some others would've answered. I also have this feeling with a handful of Holiday posts, like "Holiday has to be town" but like, it scares me, I'd almost bet it's the same posts as you, but there's certain posts that stand out a lot, I think that list and Something_Smart (ss sounds too much like a snake, and no snakes here! only fish) contains most if not all town, possibly norwee too. Then that leaves April, gamma, gerain, osuka, and in that I get good vibes from Gamma, osuka, I think was maf in the game I played, I need to check, but osuka seems to be almost identical to the last normal game I played, looking that up real quick... yes, osuka maf this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86324 and I think osuka is playing very similar, if not the same way. YOOOO I think we're on to something here!!!

hahaha sorry I just kept going, letting my brain flow, this is something I'm 100% revisiting tomorrow, but I did link the osuka maf game, however, I think a lot of it is just osuka's personality, so mehhh I don't think I ever SRed osuka that game hahaha ok goodnight yall!! I don't need to start going into Complex Mafia Theory tonight, cause let me tell yall... I could go on forever about some stupid thing. ahhhhh ok, agreeing with jeff, turned into a brain dump, and with that. Goodnight friends!!!!

Ignore this, I need it for reference, and no I'm not making a word doc/organizing my thoughts elsewhere, we do it right here on the spot! sorta lol

[Andante]

also, if anyone has any questions for me, lemme know!!!

[Andante]

And one more thing, how often do scum fake claim miller?

I have not seen a true or fake miller claim in a while. The role has become pretty rare.

It used to be... relatively common, I would say, but maybe I'm biased because I've done it (and got away with it, too, though I probably shouldn't have).

Given that miller has become rarer I would say fakeclaiming it would also probably be rare.

Hmm alright, I was just curious if it was a common thing around here, my "recent" game I was a miller who didn't even know I was miller, so I'm half thinking it's just a joke cause of that game lol but realistically thinking about it, probably town, I just don't like the "I'm miller and plan on doing nothing" attitude, like, that's what also isn't selling it

[Andante]

Oh! Jeff,
if you're around, I would love some explanation on T3, you say you can't look at him badly and that he's shown "genuine conviction in game-specific topics" I would really love some help seeing what makes him towny, A50 I'm not fully certain on, but I can see a Holiday/aza/dwlee town world. T3 is the one I would really love to hear more on though if you have a moment

[Andante]

lol Jeff, this started as me going "Ok, Jeff doesn't think T3 is scum, I just need to see enough, and I'll take his word for it" well, turned into a little case on T3, tldr at bottom:

It’s that i had an particular thought about A50, but T3 seemed to just want to agree that it was a weird tone, but nothing scummy. Which begs the question of why he’d agree on something but then tone back on it when asked to elaborate.
Just reads really scummy to me.

his post was weird tone
his post was also nai
logik

^ "T3 seemed to just want to agree that it was a weird tone, but nothing scummy" Only after Norwee talks about how T3 reads scummy, does T3 "explain" the post in question, but like for me, looking at a lot of these other lines I quoted, T3's entire playstyle seems to be "This has this tone, so this person is this" or "this has these vibes, so this is town" why make a point to go "it's weird but nai"?

as both alignments i do spur of the moment posting
town me tends to get burned out after a while and makes less sense
scum me can consistently post and makes more sense

^ Rather than try to read anyone, he's giving "self meta" like, if you're aware of it, you can change how you play, people sharing meta about themselves? what even??? "Hey so scum me does this, notice how I'm not doing that?" idk I hate the entire concept of people trying to rely solely off meta. I understand wanting to look at past game for people, but that's where you go "I read Something_Smart's past few games, he does this as town, and he did that this game, I think both match up" I don't tend to just straight to meta on day 1 though, I like having it in the back of my mind for difficult reads, but ehhh, and self meta? yeah no thanks.

ninjad
dunno
i'll meta her and see ig

^"time to meta someone 300 posts into the game" right, cause there is so much content here for that.

idk andante's meta, I just know T3 reacted to me and andante the same way and I think T3's reaction to me was scum dodging giving a stance, and I feel like the execution of that would be different on a townie vs a scum partner, so the matching execution is town indicative for andante

Ehhh, which posts were these?

the post where gamma says can i just have fun
then you call it towny and try to argue people out of it
if you were koba, which i thought you might be, then that sequence makes you/gamma decent s/s
i decided to pry further into it by asking the question about the alt
you then promptly altslipled

^ " I think T3's reaction to me was scum dodging giving a stance" was initially said by Gamma, and instead of going "I wasn't trying to ignore you, I genuinely didn't see it" and trying to clarify anything, T3 gives a recap of something I was making a deal out of, and tries to change the topic. Doesn't seem like a towny mindset to me, like it wasn't even a challenging question!!!

your play here seems very similar to that so you can get a towered

^ Are we sure T3 is actually trying to find scum here? "ehhh seems similar. town" without sharing anything to try and convince anyone else of this tr.

I just tried to meta ss and got nothing except general just different vibes between scum and town games. This game he’s got the *town vibe* so that’s good I guess?

^ more meta talk

We should flip t3

I took 76 minutes to meta ss

^ Why do any of us genuinely care an hour and 16 minutes were spent on Something_Smart, when I'm pretty sure no one was really pushing him??




~~~ Conclusions ~~~
I don't think T3 is town, and am confused how anyone has him better than null tbh.
EVERY SINGLE line is just "good tone, this person town" or "meta says X is town"
like, T3, if you are town can you please try to actually help show that your TRs are town or something? idk, I know a lot of this is playstyle related, and this playstyle drives me crazy, but unless something happens, I'll be ending the day with a vote on T3 tbh. T3 has so many posts, and none are game advancing at all.

[Andante]

Andante is town, like cmon

I know I am, but are you?

[Andante]

Another thing that doesn't sit too well with me, A50, yes they subbed into a maf slot this game, but I think their play thus far has been super similar to:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=86330

The carefree, "I'm not doing anything" personality. I'm just struggling to see A50 as anything higher than null here as well.

[Andante]

Free pagetop for me

[Andante]

SHARK!!! IT'S A SHARK!!!!

[Andante]

And with that -ladies and gentlemen- we come to the end of today's episode of "post without thinking twice". I hope you enjoyed it. See you next time.

What was the point of it? None of it was game related

[Andante]

HAPPY SCUMDAY SOMETHING_SMART!!!! Today is a good day!!!! Love seeing cake first thing in the morning

[Andante]

I'm all for fun, but like, can we not spam the thread with only nonsense, it's fine if you sprinkle something game related with it, but I'm not down for this kind of spam.

VOTE: Almost50

[Andante]

Rainbow fish

[Andante]

I remember A50 being a real hard solver back in earlier games with him.
Is this really how his towngames are nowadays?

A50 mafia

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=86330

subbed into a maf slot, so didn't play the whole time, but still

[Andante]

I'm not a fan of how everyone ignored me going "t3 doesn't look towny" not a single person interacted with my giant post

[Andante]

Ok fine.

Let’s presume A50 is town doing the bare minimum of activity other than the posting of music vids.

Who do we kill today.
Because that’s kind of our job, and A50 doesn’t seem to be helping with figuring that one out.

i don't want these people slaughtered today. at all

{hella jeff, gamma emerald, holiday, a50}

these people ill have a mild resistance to going

{andante, osuka, april* azaariah}

which leaves the "poe" (5 people = 5 total condemns disregarding like, those roles that fuck up parity)

{norwee, T3, SS, dwlee, geraintm}

* - for some reason i haven't critically evaluated this slot. like at all.

How the heck are april,osuka, aza and I on the same level?

[Andante]

And saying Andante is a hot topic? She's already yesterday. The giggling schoolgirls at the lunchtable are already mocking them for being old-fashioned.

hot topic you say? Is that a good thing?

[Andante]

Page top is mine

[Andante]

Norwee.. I'm NOT scum hunting in this game. I am in fact TOWN hunting. OK? Gamma is in my PoE. I don't know if he's Scum or not, so he's as good a vote as any of the other 6 (Yes, I have 7 in my PoE, and only 5 TRs so far.. aside from my own slot)

I like this, town hunting typically works best for me.

VOTE: T3

I'd like to bring more attention to T3, cause there's been like no conversation here, and he's not towny

[Andante]

I mean, does literally anyone else have a better idea for a direction to go today? It's just like, "I go I can't understand how you have T3 as anything more than null Jeff" and everyone pretty much just ignores T3, T3 doesn't do much, and there's a page of youtube videos, Jeff has A50 as the strongest tr?? I would be ok with T3/Jeff/ Possibly A50 going today, I think in them, we don't go wrong

[Andante]

I think we need some pressure going Jeff's way tbh

[Andante]

I have a question, Andante, what is that doggie from?

no clue, I googled dog avatar or something and saw this, I love it

[Andante]

PAGE TOP TOO!!! YES!!! I wasn't even trying

[Andante]

osuka - idk

hahahaha I love this one!

But overall love the effort on this post!

[Andante]

In case of an investigation by any federal entity or similar, I do not have any involvement with the Mafia or with the people in it, I do not know how I am hard aligned with them, probably a false narrative by similarly nefarious thrid parties, I do not support any actions by the members of the Mafia.

Are you also claiming miller?

[Andante]

Ok, but to be fair that initial T3 wagon was RVS, people unvoted once they were like "ahhh e-2" and trying to say anything about the first rvs wagon?? It doesn't mean a lot, only useful for seeing how the person reacts, What I find more suspicious is that everyone was like "aza case good. andante scum" I show up, people back off. Like, if you strongly believed I was scum, what changed to convince your mind? Or were you really just going for the lhf? like here, T3 is basically gone, wagon shifts to T3. Sure I'm voting T3 right now, I don't have strong conviction behind it though, I'll probably shift to A50/Jeff, might stay here, idk I don't magically expect anyone to push for a vote on anyone soon, after classes end today I'll be able to do what I've been wanting, just haven't had a chance yet.

Also, I'm confused why Aza is a top wagon. It could just be that I feel really bad, like, I have been in the situation where I'm hard tunneling someone, then go, oh... I could be wrong, I don't think this person is as bad as I initially thought.. but that also means idk where my reads are at. And a lot of what aza says feels genuine, I mean, I probably won't fight yall on voting aza, but I'm not gonna be voting aza here. A50/Jeff/T3 are better. Gamma?? I'd love to hear more from A50 on why Gamma scum, and I don't think I'm touching Norwee today

[Andante]

ayyy congrats on your first vote of the game Something_Smart!!! What made right now the time to vote?

[Andante]

What made right now the time to vote?

T3 keeps dodging my requests to explain his read on me

ahh alright, I mean, voting does get people's attention!! It was just typing my last post, I was like, interesting, Something_Smart's vote hasn't moved all game... but I know that's a playstyle thing, then I was like "a random vote? what?" makes sense though!!



ok, I'll be back later, gotta finish this week strong!! No classes next week!! wooooo

[Andante]

Something_Smart's vote hasn't moved all game... but I know that's a playstyle thing

Out of curiosity, what gave you this impression? I don't think we've played together before.

Cause I never used to move my vote much, didn't understand people who changed it a bunch, and since coming to MS, most people change votes a lot lol
Yeah, don't think we've played before


Look, I briefly skimmed this morning, saw Jeff claiming miller? and I wanted clarification there, that's really the only reason I even posted, I don't recall any of your recent lines tbh

[Andante]

UNVOTE: T3

E-1?? bruhhhh

[Andante]

it's a good slot to fade. I'm ready for day 2

I don't disagree with you here!!! However, I'd like to at least give him a chance, like, I'm busy with classes today, he said he had exams, so I wanna hear him out, probably won't hear anything I like, however, I know regardless of alignment how frustrating it is when you're genuinely busy, and show back up with e-1 or e-2, there's no point in trying. so, yes, I just wanna flip him, but that doesn't have to be done right now this second.

[Andante]

Cause I never used to move my vote much, didn't understand people who changed it a bunch, and since coming to MS, most people change votes a lot lol

Good save if that was a TMI. I am notorious for not using my vote much, especially early on. So I'm with you

LMAOOOO "Something_Smart doesn't use his vote, call him out!!!" XD

[Andante]

it's a good slot to fade. I'm ready for day 2

I don't disagree with you here!!! However, I'd like to at least give him a chance, like, I'm busy with classes today, he said he had exams, so I wanna hear him out, probably won't hear anything I like, however, I know regardless of alignment how frustrating it is when you're genuinely busy, and show back up with e-1 or e-2, there's no point in trying. so, yes, I just wanna flip him, but that doesn't have to be done right now this second.

frankly, if you ask SS, they've gotten multiple chances at this point.

You and Something_Smart both suddenly voting T3 also makes me nervous. I literally made a case back on why I didn't tr T3, and it got ignored, now it's just "T3 is the easiest slot to push!!!" ahhhh yall making me nervous. Scum is probably laughing at me somewhere "Andante was 3/3, and is on track for 0/3"

[Andante]

how the heck do we have a 53 page, 1300 post DAY 1.. this is insane.

ok, I'll be back later, I actually do have to go lol

[Andante]

lol I was about to post here too, like nothing is happening, no one is doing anything, should just end the day then if no one cares

but then my wifi died and have to go mobile so whatever, We’re not getting T3 here anymore, I don’t understand why T3 picks ger when there has been almost no ger talk, and then a random Holiday wagon, I still want A50/Jeff here

[Andante]

lol I was about to post here too, like nothing is happening, no one is doing anything, should just end the day then if no one cares

but then my wifi died and have to go mobile so whatever, We’re not getting T3 here anymore, I don’t understand why T3 picks ger when there has been almost no ger talk, and then a random Holiday wagon, I still want A50/Jeff here

[Andante]

I hate mobile so much

[Andante]

I like Something_Smart here and A50 just wants to wagon him? lmaoo ok my job on figuring out who im voting is easy today
VOTE: A50 [\vote]

[Andante]

VOTE: A50

[Andante]

Unless you think someone on the wagon is scum why is it bad?

It’s bad cause it was just suddenly voted without anyone giving an actual reason. Holiday has had decent lines, and they’re decent enough to the point I’m not yeeting Holiday D1, A50 is a lot worse than Holiday

[Andante]

Also also, if Holiday goes through and flips red, we go after both S_S & Andante. I did have Andante as a relatively high TR but his interference here wreaks a rotten smell like a skunk.

and what happens when we flip a red A50?


I also do not buy that claim based on how T3 has been playing, but yeah, don’t yeet PRclaims D1

[Andante]

This is the most conversation in like 48 hours, also if osuka shows up and makes another big fight happen, I’m just voting osuka out. I know it’s tied to how osuka plays, but if it happens again, I don’t think there’s good intentions behind it

[Andante]

Not sure if I want to vote A50, I feel like this is a relatively towny response? I'm pretty townread this game, why go after me as scum?

I wouldn’t say townread, I’d say not scumread, and I’m agreeing with what you’re saying, I wouldn’t say you’ve done anything to be super townread for tbh
that green name is still scary lol name is green, has us thinking you flip green, I see how the mind games work!!!

[Andante]

And I saw the wagon before I saw the claim so that contributed to me being spooked

You? Spooked? LIES!!

tbh I got on to see if anyone decided to do anything and was just gonna vote T3 and call it a day, cause like T3 still hasn’t done anything, wants to vote ger, gave no reason, ger seems fine to me so far, but the claim, so I’ll settle for A50, I mean if people still really want Holiday, I can look into that, but I hate mobile, and dog wants a walk, so byeeee

[Andante]

that green name is still scary lol name is green, has us thinking you flip green, I see how the mind games work!!!

Ah yes, all part of the master plan

Now to get zoraster and kison to join a game and they'll be easy to mis-exe

LMAOOO OMG a game with the 3 of yall??? I’d be like uhhh hi scary people... green = bad and red = good, I think... but yall all seem nice and I don’t wanna vote out town, so I’ll sacrifice myself!! or, try to find y’all’s partner(s) and call it a win. And if you 3 were the maf team.... unfair lol

[Andante]

LMAOOO OMG a game with the 3 of yall???

That probably won't ever happen, zor plays very rarely and I don't think kison plays at all.

But we could get a game with 3 greens; I've played with all of them before, and PP and lilith quite a bit.

hahaha 1 green in a game is plenty!! if the green names outnumber... ahhhh scary stuff lol I’ll just beg zor to play!! “I know I have never talked to you, but we need you in a game!!” then auto yeet zor d1!! hhaha jkjk


ok I’ll go back to the holiday stuff when Im back, I was just laughing too hard at this and had to respond now lol 1 green is scary to me, greens and reds? HAHAHAHA it would be good to watch!! tough to read people

[Andante]

I'm really not a fan of "well worst case, we flip Holiday and Holiday really is VT" and the ONLY reasoning for the Holiday vote it "we don't like early posts in the iso"
I've been distracted lol, but I honestly still think A50 is better, like A50 is actually scummy. I understand all the "but we don't want everyone to claim" but like, I'd rather vote out someone I think is red. like if NO ONE has a good reason, there's probably no way we flip scum, idk I feel like I'm the only one looking at the game the way I am, I just really don't feel like casing people right now, but I don't see us going wrong with an A50 lim.

[Andante]

give me a reason

[Andante]

cause I can just come back at you and go "you should vote A50"

[Andante]

I feel bad for new people coming in to a 100 page day 1 when there's basically nothing in those 70 pages lol


In response to #1740

but they were also being the type of player that wasn't really saying anything unpopular or unfavorable
> sounds like a play style thing, I mean, what has Something_Smart said that's unfavorable? yet I don't see you going after him

when people tried to think of any actual things Holiday had said, nobody was able to remember, which naturally means they were off of people's radars
> again, sounds like a playstyle thing, I generally prefer voting out people who are actively being scummy/ people who I believe are flipping red

so on top of the needing to stop further claims this day phase, and move on, Holiday is the optimal flip,
> why are you so concerned about moving on now? I mean the past 48 hours have had no progress, why not be concerned then? what makes right now, this moment so special? and if I recall no one even asked Holiday to claim, that just kinda happened.

Holiday is a plant in the ground, and we need to stake it down, and use this as a moment to push the game forward, but to do so, the slot needs to flip. Then we can progress forward rather than in a circle.
> Sounds like you're not even trying to find scum tbh


Honestly, I'd be down for getting April instead of A50, this long post is honestly just april going "vote and move on, who cares" and if I recall April is the one who said we can just massclaim D2, like, if we start d2 with a massclaim, why would you be concerned about claims? T3 is a bg, so if there is an investigate, T3 saves them? I feel like April is contradicting themselves

VOTE: April

[Andante]

I like Something_Smart here and A50 just wants to wagon him? lmaoo ok my job on figuring out who im voting is easy today
VOTE: A50 [\vote]

?????????????
omgus by proxy?????

???

[Andante]

This is the most conversation in like 48 hours, also if osuka shows up and makes another big fight happen, I’m just voting osuka out. I know it’s tied to how osuka plays, but if it happens again, I don’t think there’s good intentions behind it

that's cute but really if i call you out for saying dumb shit, it's your fault for having said dumb shit to begin with

I mean, there's no excuse for being rude to everyone... We're all new at some point, and if we bully every new person away, they'll never improve.

[Andante]

Are we just gonna make a mass claim or something. Holy shit.

Down to mass claim tomorrow if y'all want.

cause I can just come back at you and go "you should vote A50"

You should vote Holiday because we have had multiple claims this day phase, and Holiday was the final claim, and a Vanilla claim, meaning it's a low risk misfade based on scum wanting PR's faded, not Vanilla. Yes, it is a win for scum to get through a day phase, but they do not need to get through 1 day phase, they need to be able to survive until the end.

Ending the day phase before any further PR claims can happen is optimal.

so on top of the needing to stop further claims this day phase, and move on, Holiday is the optimal flip

"we should massclaim tomorrow" "claims today are a MAJOR NO"

[Andante]

Are we just gonna make a mass claim or something. Holy shit.

Down to mass claim tomorrow if y'all want.

cause I can just come back at you and go "you should vote A50"

You should vote Holiday because we have had multiple claims this day phase, and Holiday was the final claim, and a Vanilla claim, meaning it's a low risk misfade based on scum wanting PR's faded, not Vanilla. Yes, it is a win for scum to get through a day phase, but they do not need to get through 1 day phase, they need to be able to survive until the end.

Ending the day phase before any further PR claims can happen is optimal.

so on top of the needing to stop further claims this day phase, and move on, Holiday is the optimal flip

"we should massclaim tomorrow" "claims today are a MAJOR NO"

no one had any reaction to april pretending to not want claims yet also asking for a massclaim tomorrow just before that?

[Andante]

How did we lose Gamma and end up with this.

LMAOO I felt this so much after reading the comics

[Andante]

Those are different

They're actually not. "Down to massclaim" and all the "we have to avoid any more claims at all costs!!!" like the bg literally outed. so if something important gets outed in the process and dies tonight, we turbo T3 tomroow

[Andante]

Those are different

They're actually not. "Down to massclaim" and all the "we have to avoid any more claims at all costs!!!" like the bg literally outed. so if something important gets outed in the process and dies tonight, we turbo T3 tomroow

Except t3 can't protect multiple PRs at once..?

I'm not saying we massclaim now? I'm just saying we don't "have to lim holiday" like, I genuinely SR A50 and April, and can see them both flipping scum

[Andante]

Okay but holiday isn't the only scum, holiday would have partners, can you see a50 and/or april as a partner?

[Andante]

You really seem like you're trying to hit scum here

[Andante]

I gotta be real honest with yall, I have only skimmed since yall last heard from me, the holidays have had me super busy, and my wifi was acting up half the time I was trying to post, excuses over, I think this town is in desperate need of a scum hunting doggo!!! means I probably need to read the last 500 posts :/ I can try and answer questions for yall, but I mean, without any of yall's new info, I'd probably still push for an April lim. April did a lot where I was like, they are not town... basically went "limming the vt is our best option" along with "no one can claim, yet we can mass claim tomorrow" so unless I see something to change my mind, I'll likely still go for April here, I don't care that april claimed doc. I find it funny we have 2 dead VTs and alive outed BG/Doc

[Andante]

wait, is norwee just now considering my d1 suspicions? day 1 I wanted A50/April

[Andante]

My success rate at reading some certain people is actually pretty sick. And i think Geraint is one of those people. He just seems a bit clueless at this game, and i believe that is town indicative for him.
So i don't really want him as the lim, i see far better options.

You TR someone for being clueless? How the heck is that town indicative? wouldn't it just be null if they haven't done anything? Not scummy = not scum. easy read. not this "I think cluelessness is town indicative" like wtf?? weak reasoning

[Andante]

I think norwee may be scum here tbh, especially the "andante/osuka/A50" "read" they seem to have, like what?? me and osuka not really posting recently, and a50 being a50? that "read" in 2373 is so weak

[Andante]

My success rate at reading some certain people is actually pretty sick. And i think Geraint is one of those people. He just seems a bit clueless at this game, and i believe that is town indicative for him.
So i don't really want him as the lim, i see far better options.

You TR someone for being clueless? How the heck is that town indicative? wouldn't it just be null if they haven't done anything? Not scummy = not scum. easy read. not this "I think cluelessness is town indicative" like wtf?? weak reasoning

This is an argument i use all the time.

ok and?

[Andante]

I mean, I'd argue against my slot being weak, but it's been like 3 days since I did anything, and osuka/a50 are weak slots this game, so by your own logic, you're pushing weak slots, also known as not even trying to play

VOTE: Norwee

[Andante]

whatever, doggo is town lmao you are not even trying to play this game. just tunneling "do nothing" slots, look how far that's gotten us

[Andante]

I mean, I'd argue against my slot being weak, but it's been like 3 days since I did anything, and osuka/a50 are weak slots this game, so by your own logic, you're pushing weak slots, also known as not even trying to play

VOTE: Norwee

Yes, you're an weak slot.

So you're saying maf is the 3 weak people this game? woooow such great detective skills. someone give this guy a gold medal in scumhunting

[Andante]

I think it's freaking histerical the 2 times I've been pushed are when/cause I've been gone. like wow. I'm sorry I'm busy!!! Sorry yall don't like the reads I do give, I don't trust April, never have, but guess what, Aza tunneled me for that, and now you are, cause you know it worked so well for aza. this is ridiculous

[Andante]

And your OMGUS here is also scummy.

the heck? I went to ISO you after your garbage read of "all the weak people are scum"

[Andante]

I think it's freaking histerical the 2 times I've been pushed are when/cause I've been gone. like wow. I'm sorry I'm busy!!! Sorry yall don't like the reads I do give, I don't trust April, never have, but guess what, Aza tunneled me for that, and now you are, cause you know it worked so well for aza. this is ridiculous

I pushed April earlier, did you even read that?

You didn't push april seriously, and I think it's cause April pushed you back

[Andante]

Annoyed i am

[Andante]

ayyyyy I read nothing. I am back!!!

[Andante]

what did i miss?

[Andante]

Andante looking bad for me right now

ahhh missed nothing

I am here for fun. and fun will happen. fun starts with no negativity

[Andante]

Being scum read is not negativity, it’s part of the game

Honestly, biggest thing people need to understand, it’s literally scum’s job to manipulate the game to make it look like others are scum, and they aren’t.

This is general, i still think Andante has a decent chance of being scum.

I mean, if I'm on the wrong track, and town is on the wrong track, then maf doesn't have to do anything but sit back and watch me burn the village down lol should've seen where I claimed gs d1 and led the village to a loss. good times