Mini 2250: Role-A-Pair Mafia (Game Over)
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well thats a surpriseIn post 8, Color Purple wrote:Let's get pairing! I will start.PAIR: Circle Shape, one of my favourite shapes.
i suppose pairs not being loverized means its not quite as big a deal to pair early
and i think lol-pairing is >rand town
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the delayer power seems to be almost entirely pro-scumIn post 9, Color Green wrote:Is it better for us to let town or scum be unpaired? Discuss.
i dont see a town benefit in having it
ideally the unpaired player is the day 1 lim because otherwise youre breaking up a pair and taking a pr out of the game before it has a chance to be used
but ive seen how these games go
and you dont really have control over who pairs with who
if someone pairs with a scummy scumfuck who is obvious that doesnt mean you should lim them because of prs or whatever- Circle Shape
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why do i townpingIn post 15, Color Blue wrote:I have townpings from Circle and mild scumvibes off Purple's entrance.
I am looking for a partner with a great taste in music and also hopefully very active.
Must like long walks and have a great sense of humor.
Also preferably of town alignment because I don't need to be pocketed in a PT that would not be fun.
i must know
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the delayer works on power implementation from pairs not the factional killIn post 22, Color Orange wrote:I feel like I'd rather leave a town unpaired because even if delayer is anti-town, I'd rather have it in town's hands. I think a good strategy might be to never use it until 2 scum are dead?
but im going to give a townread for this attempt at a strong protown strategy- Circle Shape
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fos on players for contrived reasons ("TMI on roleblocker", "LAMIST")In post 68, Arrow Shape wrote:Why is red mafia?
blatant TMI read on pentagon- Circle Shape
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they look like reasons scum attacks people for in early gameIn post 72, Arrow Shape wrote:Aren't all reasons at this point contrived.- Circle Shape
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im gayIn post 77, Star Shape wrote:I like Circle's posts. Say more wise things for us.- Circle Shape
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correctIn post 79, Arrow Shape wrote:I notice you didn't actually specify which reasons you had for town reading green, nor did you say anything about what your reasons were for moon logicking a town read on green.
those are for me right now- Circle Shape
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no i just think they are a little trivial and as town i sometimes find it better to not explain every little thing right away
but i guess since i am inferring something about your own read me being coy is unhelpful
im guessing you scumread green for his page 1 posts all being related to the discussion of mechanics
my thought as purely mechanical discussion is such a cliche scumtell that most scum will avoid opening that way
but it was only a lean at the time like i said since that can easily be a playstyle thing
i think his response to you was townie though
i was going to type things about blue but realized i asked blue a question that i want answered first- Circle Shape
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i mean i did call you scum you knowIn post 103, Color Red wrote:
Not sure what that means lol.In post 100, Pentagon Shape wrote:Red definitely has chutzpah, I’ll give them that. lol
are you just not reading the game- Circle Shape
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thats fineIn post 109, Color Blue wrote:In post 60, Circle Shape wrote:
why do i townpingIn post 15, Color Blue wrote:I have townpings from Circle and mild scumvibes off Purple's entrance.
I am looking for a partner with a great taste in music and also hopefully very active.
Must like long walks and have a great sense of humor.
Also preferably of town alignment because I don't need to be pocketed in a PT that would not be fun.
i must know
my ego demands it
I liked:
"and i think lol-pairing is >rand town"
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"the delayer power seems to be almost entirely pro-scum"
i suppose i accept that read
second one is a simple mechanical observation but i can see liking it- Circle Shape
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what do you mean?In post 127, Color Blue wrote:
I don't understand how people are where they are- Circle Shape
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assume that alignments are randomly distributedIn post 143, Pentagon Shape wrote:So I know it isn’t me and unless I’m wrongly reading circle and arrow and it isn’t star, then it would have to be between heart and diamond, assuming only one scum in shapes?
But with one extra power, it would seem likely at least one.
I really don’t have a read on either but based soloey by PoE, scum is probably likely in at least one. Red looks the worst from the colors with my liking yellow, orange, blue and maybe purple?
Have no idea on green yet but slots that haven’t impressed me yet are: red, heart, green, diamond.
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well i cant pair with youIn post 259, Diamond Shape wrote:I... kind of don't care if I'm paired anymore.
It feels like the thoughts I did give were kind of brushed over so I don't think anyone is particularly interested in picking my brain so, if everyone else wants to play together go for it.
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this is basically how i feel yeahIn post 167, Diamond Shape wrote:- Pretty sure this has been said to some degree but Purple is probably down, weird entry but they feel very... earnest in their replies in a way that I don't think scum can easily fake. The content itself doesn't seem sound but the spirit matters.- Circle Shape
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pentagon probably town here although i dont think i agreeIn post 178, Pentagon Shape wrote:
No red is locktown for me now.In post 111, Color Purple wrote:
Oh I agree. On Red. Blue is definitely a townread for me as well as Arrow and Green.In post 108, Pentagon Shape wrote:So far liking circle, arrow, blue, orange
Suspicious of purple, star, red
early reads from red had an element of showiness to them
triangle obviously doing a gimmickIn post 180, Pentagon Shape wrote:
Triangle gives me tstbs vibes but could be, just seems too godawful to be scum, since scum usually at least try to come up with decent reads but if noob scum, then obviously the jury would still be out on that.In post 173, Color Purple wrote:
I was trying to see how people react to lurking and other obvious scumtells. I dod have a scumlean which became a null read. To be fair, you can see 111 for my one ephemeral scumlean. I immediately ended up rereading and found nothing scummy and thus lost my scumread.In post 157, Color Blue wrote:I appreciate the effort but there's like no scum reads and it feels kind of robotic almost in the way he is town-reading people for doing fairly minor things.
Also if you townread people who took issue with your entrance, did you make your entrance deliberately scummy on purpose? I'm confused about your thought process there.
Also I still nullread Triangle. Triangle does seem to be deliberately writing in a way which I find unreadable. (That being said, this could be a playstyle thing.)
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i thought about it and maybe pentagon has a point about that one red post
i assume the read change for other reasons
still quite like the change from pent where scum would not be likely to give credit for that post
that is not what i saidIn post 198, Color Orange wrote:
Why do you think chutzpah is a scummy thing?In post 105, Circle Shape wrote:
i mean i did call you scum you knowIn post 103, Color Red wrote:
Not sure what that means lol.In post 100, Pentagon Shape wrote:Red definitely has chutzpah, I’ll give them that. lol
are you just not reading the game
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more than the fact that the logic holds its that i dont see scum making that reversal on you at that moment in timeIn post 280, Color Red wrote:Can someone go over why purple seems to be a consensus townread, I've seen a lot of "purple is town" but I haven't seen why. I have seen a lot of effort but that isn't completely AI.
As far as I can tell Triangle this game has made basically one point which is a really odd roundabout TMI accusation on penta.
Still don't really understand Penta's 180 on me, but others seem to believe the logic holds and its right so I guess it can be left be.- Circle Shape
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i think its a weird thing for scum to complain about being ignoredIn post 287, Color Blue wrote:The reason I have Star/Diamond as SRs is because I got whiplash reading through Diamond's ISO:
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Diamond calls out Star for volunteering and taking it backsies - he calls it a bit-LAMISTY
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He more or less makes the same kind of LAMisty appeal.
I do think it's possible he is just fustrated town who feels like he is being frozen out - but the game has barely been running for 2? days so I'm not sure that's something that's genuine.
It feels to me that the game state is still wide open and I think people are happy to mingle and talk - we've only paired 2 players so far.
I guess I think if he's town I just want to give him a big hug.
Maybe even if he's scum I would too? I am a sucker for AtE.
like if im scum no one paying attention to anything i say would be pretty much the ideal like why do you care if no one talks to you as scum haha
although i dont know what diamond posted that they are upset about being ignored for
looking back they had one big post with some thoughts and not much else
i still feel like when ive seen people upset at being ignored theyve always been town
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im not scum but i could pocket you anyway hahaIn post 296, Color Blue wrote:Spoiler: embarrassing confession don't click on this unless you are mafia
im actually not sure yetIn post 297, Color Blue wrote:@Circle how do you feel about pairing with Orange?
I think she might be interested in you and she is quite the catch.
felt oddly apprehensive at her catchup
but i feel like i really need to reread the game and take notes now to wrap my head around it- Circle Shape
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this post is very meh to meIn post 310, Star Shape wrote:Just finished catching up. So far I like Arrow, Circle, Heart, and Pentagon for town shapes. I was null on Heart for a bit, but their recent posts don't feel panicked about a potential PoE closing in on them, which is +town.
Diamond's defeatist attitude wrt perceived lack of interaction is very meh to me, several people myself included have given him content to work with but he hasn't responded to much. It also seems odd that he's acting like he's going to have to go solo since no one is poking at him too much, even though he's guaranteed to pair up with a color. Also don't like Triangle's gimmick the longer the game goes on, since my eyes tend to glaze over when reading their posts and that may just be the point. It seems like borderline encrypted text, intentionally making their posts hard to read just seems anti-town.
For colors, Green, Purple, Red, and Yellow all feel pretty townie to me.
Not really liking Blue's posts, early reads felt off and her scum reads ping me with Ro3. If Blue ever flips scum I'd want to get Diamond next immediately. Orange meanwhile is null scum for me, mainly just vibes since a lot of early posts were just "I like this/this seems townie" without giving a reason, plus the early shade on Purple that didn't go anywhere and just faded once he started towning it up. It got weird because Orange seemed to be so impressed by Purple's town read on me that she went from believing Purple was fishy to hard town reading him.- Circle Shape
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i want to reread everyone first but im considering itIn post 396, Color Blue wrote:
I think I would like that very much if you could!In post 383, Circle Shape wrote:im not scum but i could pocket you anyway haha- Circle Shape
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Why do you like Orange?In post 423, Arrow Shape wrote:Orange should pair with circle.- Circle Shape
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In post 433, Arrow Shape wrote:Their posts seem largely reasonable and sort of unusual for to make scum.really
most of their stuff has een quoting things and responding with the occasional read question or mechanical comment
its fine but not really anything that cant be faked
hasnt had any thoughts that were brilliantly town to me
i think bluntness is a personality trait tbhIn post 436, Color Blue wrote:I like how blunt Orange is about her opinions - tonally it feels very earnest. I think she believes in her reads.
you might be right im just not sure of it yetjust changing my typing style
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hope you dont take it personal i justIn post 454, Color Orange wrote:Based on this last page I see Blue seems to have paired with Circle. I wish her the best, as I should have tried harder if I really wanted to pair with Circle. Aside from that, been a bit busy, so have only really skimmed things between my last post and now. I do wish to apologize if my actions made Diamond feel unhappy though, because I feel like I did not try to interact with them outside a very shallow engagement. So I would not be surprised if that was a factor in the displeasure they expressed upon coming in a couple days ago.
felt like blue really spoke to me you know- Circle Shape
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the problem is that even if triangle doesnt believe it should be considered triangle is also willfully disregarding it being a factor in pentagons read on redIn post 497, Color Orange wrote:I see Triangle disregarding the main slip post as evidence. I asked the mod and we can analyze them as long as the actual player identity isn't a factor in that analysis. As is, I do think that post is a town thought on general principle.
you cant just discard parts of reality you find inconvenient which is what triangle is doing
even if triangle thinks nothing of that post it doesnt mean someone else cant
granted bad logic doesnt mean scum but frustrating to deal with
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getting frustrated at a gimmick is nai imoIn post 517, Color Orange wrote:
I do not like this. I'm already slightly favoring triangle's position in the clash between you two specifically (I do not place much weight in the rest of the solve), and you telling them to talk normal this way feels like a shady discredit of their position. Someone also recently mentioned people complaining about the gimmick might be scum and this feels like it might be that.In post 270, Pentagon Shape wrote:
When you speak English and actually stop misrepping my posts, let me know.In post 220, Triangle Shape wrote:Pntagn alws bad hre.
trd usng me as ezkill.
we cnt vrify ne modQs clm. Ony clmd modQ aftr cll out.
ezpz.
"prgssn" mns i hv 2 stp txtspk... duck.
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i read the last two pages and it feels like a car spinning its wheels in the mud
does not feel like this is any meaningful sort of progress
for some perspective here: the top 6 posters in the game take up 75% of the non-mod posts in the game
this is not a healthy balance
Orange, I would please ask you to consider compressing your catch-up and working in a summary format rather than responding to each post individually. The way you are doing things now is both inordinately slow (you started off responding to posts that were 270 posts behind the current page. you are now responding to posts that are 220 posts behind the current page) and does not help for the sake of readability, either for the thread in general or for your alignment in particular. Nothing against you personally, I just feel your current approach to the thread could use some adjustment.
what i would like is to hear more from heart/diamond/green/star/yellow and a little less from the top posters in the game (and i include myself in that group)- Circle Shape
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i did not ask you to locktown or lockscum anyoneIn post 577, Heart Shape wrote:
I don't have a whole lot yet. I think this preliminary stage isn't necessarily the best way to locktown or lockscum anyone.In post 575, Circle Shape wrote:what are your actual reads heart
the only opinions i can seem to find from you is that you think purple and arrow are town
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i think to some extent it feels like town entitlementIn post 585, Arrow Shape wrote:I wanna kill Pentagon now tbh. Circle's post on Pentagon is reasonable, but I actually do not think that their string of defensive posts was townie.
It's been awhile since I've seen a player basically say "how dare you scum read me, stop that" with multiple posts while pretending they aren't doing that.
remember its not actually a dance game the player left out doesnt dieIn post 603, Pentagon Shape wrote:
So guaranteed a town dies with this then.In post 602, penguin_alien wrote:Star Shape has been prodded.
In post 594, Pentagon Shape wrote:@mod what happens if no more pairs form before deadline?In post 1, penguin_alien wrote:* Any players who are not paired by the end of Phase One will be paired at the scum team's discretion in a special 24 hour phase (Phase One Point Five).
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even though this is a nothing post i sort of want to believe it which i know is dumb
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wait but you want to elim the last shape that happens to be unpaired besides you just because without reading anythingIn post 631, Star Shape wrote:
Being completely transparent, I disagree with the philosophy of the last star. I don't want to put trust in someone else. I'd like to lim whoever is taken out. I'm reading as much as I can before I do more stuff irl, but if you're willing to solve with me, I'd love to have you as my partnerIn post 218, Color Orange wrote:Also unless Triangle promises to speak coherently in the PT, I will not be pairing with that one. I want to be able to actually discuss in a PT without having to decipher garbled text.
pair: orange
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oh i should read before reactingIn post 637, Star Shape wrote:
Not necessarily what I'm saying. If I was here from the beginning I would be in the camp of not trusting whoever is left out because the ability to delay a pr can either be used maliciously by scum or haphazardly by town. I'd rather it being taken out to begin with. That would have been my starting philosophy.In post 633, Color Green wrote:
Are you scumreading Triangle, then?In post 631, Star Shape wrote:I'd like to lim whoever is taken out.
my bad
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same tbh i have been holding back on my reads with that in mindIn post 737, Color Blue wrote:I was stupid and didn't read the rules and thought we'd get our PTs right away.
dont want to end the day instantly or anything but feel all right with heart votes- Circle Shape
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