Mini 2250: Role-A-Pair Mafia (Game Over)

[Color Green]

Is it better for us to let town or scum be unpaired? Discuss.

[Color Green]

And a question to all, what do you think of players who have unusual posting patterns? For example, posting near midnight, writing in an unorderly fashion, you name it.

What do posting patterns have to do with alignment? Especially in an anonymous game, with anonymous time zones?

[Color Green]

Is it better for us to let town or scum be unpaired? Discuss.

the delayer power seems to be almost entirely pro-scum

i dont see a town benefit in having it


ideally the unpaired player is the day 1 lim because otherwise youre breaking up a pair and taking a pr out of the game before it has a chance to be used

but ive seen how these games go

and you dont really have control over who pairs with who

if someone pairs with a scummy scumfuck who is obvious that doesnt mean you should lim them because of prs or whatever

So my reasoning was, if town gets it, they can choose not to trigger it because it's non-compulsive. But if the person who sits out is also the D1 elim, then it's either we lose a townie and we don't have a delayed PR, or we get rid of one scum at the cost of a delayed PR. I can get behind that.

[Color Green]

I feel like I'd rather leave a town unpaired because even if delayer is anti-town, I'd rather have it in town's hands. I think a good strategy might be to never use it until 2 scum are dead?

If not used by the end of D1, it never gets used.

[Color Green]

I wanna kill green.

Tell me how you really feel...

[Color Green]

Pair: Arrow

Your move.

[Color Green]

Unpair

[Color Green]

Koto warau?

Might need a translation for this though...

[Color Green]

It meant no.

I don't want to kill myself.

Interesting takeaway, considering a) one partner's death doesn't kill the other partner in this game (not a lovers dance game), b) if you did have a vig shot, it would require your partner's consent, and your partner knows your true ability. But also, if you thought I was scum and we were partnered, wouldn't that basically just be the same as walking out to take down a scum dance partner? (which admittedly, walking out also isn't in this game)

[Color Green]

If I had a point, I would be an arrow.

All seriousness aside, I was both concerned by your valuing self-preservation in that scenario, but also very curious because I would expect scum to be aware of the fact that it's not a lovers game. I think that's what I found interesting about it.

[Color Green]

Pretty sure reading is not exclusively a scum trait.

I think scum are more likely to be careful, though.

[Color Green]

I did say I was probably a vig right?

If arrow = vig then green could = loyal. Which would be an awful pairing.

I'm sure that's how the roles were rolled.

If you must tunnel town read me, could you please do it in a corner.

I wish I could say it's as strong as a tunnel town read. But I'm ok with looking at other slots for now.

[Color Green]

Today was a rough one, and tomorrow's not looking better. I should be able to engage on Sunday; for now, I'll do my best to catch up/stay caught up. Catching up now.

[Color Green]

I think I'm focused way too much on trying to figure out Blue and not enough on sorting the shapes. Refocusing as I type.

re:Blue - her entrance with the early reads made me think either Blue is way better than I am, or those reads are really premature. 116 suggests the latter. Her catch-up is largely a bunch of likes/dislikes with no context (for example, what does Blue see in 113 that I don't?). And the "way too early readlist" didn't feel too early, compared to their very early reads.

re:Shapes - I don't feel equal to the task of being the one to share a PT with Triangle's plaintext messages and trying to sort that slot. I can probably count on one hand the number of text messages I have sent in my life, so that's a tough gimmick for me to parse through. As for the rest, I'm a bit nervous about Star trying to go for the Delayer. And, like, if Star is scum, we really can't stop them from getting the delayer, right? If the Delay lands on something like a doc or a jailkeeper, it would be pretty difficult to prove that the delayer was holstered if we leave the unpaired slot alive. And also, Star hasn't really posted much except to talk about or defend that plan. I can support Purple+Heart. I think I would be ok with pairing with Diamond (or Circle, but I think someone more widely townread would make a better pair with Circle).

[Color Green]

I think I'm focused way too much on trying to figure out Blue and not enough on sorting the shapes. Refocusing as I type.

Mmm while I am somewhat flattered by the attention, why are you so interested in figuring me out ?

Your posts just kind of stick out, so as I'm trying to solve they just draw my attention? Like, they just seem weird to me coming from a town POV.

Also:

I've caught up.

Blue seems townie. They're a bit artificial, but I don't find it being used to much advantage other than being inoffensive to reduce scum reads/suspicion.

They don't feel like passive scum to me, due to some of their suggestions.

What does this even mean? Like, if you think it's artificial, why do you think they are being artificial, and why is that townie?

[Color Green]

I think I would trust a Diamond/Orange pair more than I would trust some of the other pairs that have already formed.

[Color Green]

I have good news, and I have bad news, folks.

[Color Green]

I have been sitting outside the fog of war, following along since the beginning.

Here are my reads prior to replacing in. (Obviously, this ignores my own role PM, but I was fairly confident it was a town slot)

Extremely Town:

Color Blue
Color Purple
Circle Shape

Town:

Color Green
Triangle Shape
Color Orange
Arrow Shape
Pentagon Shape

Could Go Either Way:

Color Yellow
Diamond Shape
Star Shape

Please Deny Endgame:

Heart Shape

Kill As Soon As Able:

Color Red

I do believe all remaining unpaired folks are town, and that the delayer is going to be town as such. Damn the torpedo(s), we eliminate scum, not drag our heels at what could have been with all PR pairings being intact.

I explicitly chose not to replace into the red slot as I felt the posts that caused it to be replaced were extremely scum indicative, even in a vacuum of a general unnamed player.

[Color Green]

The good news is I have reads, the bad news is, I'm not going to shut up about them, and I urge us to pair up as quickly as possible so I can get to voting them out or becoming dead trying!

[Color Green]

Wait your reads are kind of cute though.

Tell me more?

[Color Green]

Oh I meant to bold that as a tell me more, in our private gathering channel once we get one.

One pair closer to getting to vote for mafia~

Pair Diamond

(You didn't mention redread btw?)

[Color Green]

I do believe all remaining unpaired folks are town, and that the delayer is going to be town as such. Damn the torpedo(s), we eliminate scum, not drag our heels at what could have been with all PR pairings being intact.

But you say Star/Diamond could go either way?

Yep!

Gutread based upon game state. Scum paired off early, often, and soon to be dead.

[Color Green]

I'd like to lim whoever is taken out.

Are you scumreading Triangle, then?

[Color Green]

It's going to be used for town benefit, town should have a say in how it's used.

(And this is why people should be declaring their scumreads NOW so that such consensus is unambiguous)

[Color Green]

It's certainly very bold!

Probably because there's a gap the size of the marinas trench between red and everyone above them!

The sooner we pair up the sooner I can murder heart and then red!

[Color Green]

It's certainly very bold!

Probably because there's a gap the size of the marinas trench between red and everyone above them!

The sooner we pair up the sooner I can murder heart and then red!

Nailed it.

I wanna kill green real bad.

Well if you're trying to kill me via trajectory whiplash you're off to a good start?

[Color Green]

I mean hell the mod gave you two freebies by making role PM color match account name and here you are still screwing up!

[Color Green]

I was being sarcastic. Your response to Blue was awkward as heck.

Mafia is a textual game but I'd still hardly qualify my response as awkward. Overeager perhaps. Or maybe even bloodthirsty.

[Color Green]

Your face is all over the place.

Not sure how you get that when I've made my two scumreads immediately and extremely loudly clear but you do you Mr and or Mrs and or missing gender tag fog of war dweller.

[Color Green]

Reading is clearly too hard for some of you.

Everyone else
Literal ocean trench
Red
Smaller gap
Heart

I'm at least a little shocked nobody else sees the glaring perspective slip from heart....

[Color Green]

Reading is clearly too hard for some of you.

Everyone else
Literal ocean trench
Red
Smaller gap
Heart

I'm at least a little shocked nobody else sees the glaring perspective slip from heart....

Is it 608 or am I wrong?

It is not.

Don't everyone post at once?

[Color Green]

I admit I didn't read every word but I didn't get much out of ORange v Pentagon

other than the obvious they're not TvS.

This then gets immediately dropped but...

A: How is that "obvious"
B: If you're ruling T-S out somehow, why not do partner analysis to sort between S-S/T-T?

It's a throwaway statement that shows a mindset of not actually caring, and I'm gonna bet that it's because they're T-T but subconsciously Heart avoided closing the door entirely with a committed read.

[Color Green]

Also I lied I have a third scum read but only if red flips red.

if someone pairs with a scummy scumfuck who is obvious that doesnt mean you should lim them because of prs or whatever

It should be noted that partnering with a scummy scumfuck still allows the you to essentially Roleblock the PR since both parties must agree to use the ability.

In regards to pairing, I want to be picky with my partner. As a modifier, I feel it's my right to be so since powers need me and not the other way around.

Ideally we would leave scum out of the pairs. Having a delayed PR is bad, but denying scum a PR is worth the tradeoff imo.

And a question to all, what do you think of players who have unusual posting patterns? For example, posting near midnight, writing in an unorderly fashion, you name it.

Picking out midnight posting is very strange to me; we don't know anyone's schedules or timezones, so how would we even judge something like that? Why would it matter even if we could?

"Town walk into a thread with fresh eyes, Scum walk into a thread having already talked amongst themselves" -something like that, Thor, a long time ago.

No quote-introduction-etc to red, but one to purple.

[Color Green]

VOTE: Heart <3

[Color Green]

Circle has been making this case long before since I replaced in as well, no?

[Color Green]

they're voting Heart and not Red right now

Are you going for the "I read the least actual posts this game" award, or?

Reading is clearly too hard for some of you.

Everyone else
Literal ocean trench
Red
Smaller gap
Heart

[Color Green]

The sooner we pair up the sooner I can murder

heart

and then red!

[Color Green]

Arrow, you're treating pairings like a dance game. This is NOT a dance game, pairings in a vacuum mean nothing, as we don't know our own roles/modifiers in advance.

I know you're clearly not reading posts fully and processing them, but for the love of ~deity~ stop and think about how this changes things from a setup look.

Partnering just gives you a 1 on 1 sorting or snowing room if town or scum, alongside a "work together" role to do interesting things with.

You are so blind to the game state that you weren't able to see that the game was stagnating with the inability to form wagons while waiting for a few low-content slots to form up in pairs?

[Color Green]

Arrow feels rather stagnant, if you will?

His reads come across the same since the beginning of the game regarding green, pent, and orange. It doesn't feel like he's evolving that much throughout the game.

I still don't think willingly shoving his head into the obtuse sands time and time again while also admitting fault comes from scum, like, ever, though.

[Color Green]

what are your actual reads heart

the only opinions i can seem to find from you is that you think purple and arrow are town

I don't have a whole lot yet. I think this preliminary stage isn't necessarily the best way to locktown or lockscum anyone.

i did not ask you to locktown or lockscum anyone

this seems a curious exaggeration on your part

Take it any way you want. Doesn't make my thinking on this any less valid. I don't know how anyone can have anything but tentative positions until we actually know what's what. Right now people, including myself, are developing reads based on what exactly. We don't even really know what's going on yet.

I feel Heart is getting scumread based off playstyle n not content, if that makes sense

It makes sense.

Please let heart answer the questions on their own, and stop trampling on the pressure and lines of questioning. You are literally harming the game state no matter heart's alignment here.

[Color Green]

I swear to ~Deity~ if one me person asks about the fucking trajectory "issues" when my single focus since replacing in is to murder the shit out of Heart and Red.

Red-1's posting that was IMO manipulative being an alt-slip doesn't mean it was intended as one, so you take it as if it had been posted as red directly, and that was a tug at emotion, is the last line:

The reason I thought Diamond TMI'd was because as far as I know, we don't know what our powers or modifiers are. So when he claimed that Mafia would have a Roleblock, I assumed he was talking about one of their powers and not the delay action (which isn't a Roleblock).

Shortly after, Pentagon states he didn't like Diamond, which is why I considered Pentagon a good spot to pair with.

I haven't really been trying to scum hunt, so much as figure out who would be my ideal partner.

To me this reads as trying to make you (yes you, the person behind the screen) feel sorry for not liking their approach to the game.

[Color Green]

I think the problem isn't really trajectory so much as you have very palpable reads that were supposedly made pre-getting your role and then you don't seem to be following them afterward. You are giving the impression you changed some of your reads before your first post.

Wonder why that could be?

VOTE: Green

This is the hop off the bus btw~

[Color Green]

If it's Yellow-Red-Heart then I believe I am owed a beer.

[Color Green]

kay yeah bake 'em away, toys.

[Color Green]

Is a very strange look.

A very strange look indeed.

[Color Green]

How many times do I have to re-iterate that I entered the game hating heart and red, and STILL hate heart and red, will it take to make people stop stating they know my mentality better than I do?

Like Talokfuckingchrist, Pentagon is here asking questions LITERALLY answered in my ISO. Why is it shocking that I can have two scumreads, and a wagon is already joined and viable on one of them so I vote it AND for bonus it's more than my scumread on red was.

(Although Blue nailed it, we're in "chainsaw cross-attack Green" territory from two scum here)

[Color Green]

The way you expressed your desire to murder Heart initially doesn't make sense to me. Calling for someone to "never make endgame" seems more like you find them not towny but also not a pressing elimination.

Did you ever respond to this, Green?

Answering this in specific detail would be practically main-claiming, but please chalk it up to you misreading my phrasing. "Never make endgame" to me means "murder it and if people won't let me murder it, at least have them agree to not let it to endgame"

[Color Green]

misinterpreting you this whole time

If only I had been stating that time and time again in my posts, to the point of getting quite irate about it.

Oh, wait.

[Color Green]

The sun'll come outtomorrow
So ya gotta hang on'til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow tomorrow
I love ya
Tomorrow

[Color Green]

Fun fact: Heart is not even voting ME, or ANYONE for that matter.

Unofficial VC:

Heart Shape (5): Color Green, Color Blue, Diamond Shape, Arrow Shape, Pentagon Shape
Color Yellow (1): Color Orange
Color Green (2):Color Red, Star Shape

Not voting (5): Color Yellow, Color Purple,

Heart Shape

, Triangle Shape, Circle Shape

[Color Green]

I very well could be wrong on Yellow, it was jsut a passing thought. Today's not the day to deal with Yellow regardless. Today is the day at which Hearts get broken.

[Color Green]

We're at the "pasta" stage of the Heart elimination, folks.

Aka "throw shit to the wall and hope it sticks"

Hence why past-heart and current-heart disagree so visibly about nolim.

[Color Green]

We're at the "pasta" stage of the Heart elimination, folks.

Aka "throw shit to the wall and hope it sticks"

Hence why past-heart and current-heart disagree so visibly about nolim.

What do you think of Star’s wanting to lim you?

Meh?

I think Star is suffering openly from apathy and just kind of going with feel instead of reading the thread logically. If that was outright scum indicative, I'd be dead a lot more often.

[Color Green]

Hey Circle?

Sometimes it really is that simple.

==[]

[Color Green]

Save the mod having to do two vote counts back to back. You can do it, player reading this not currently voting heart shape!

[Color Green]

By the by if we do have investigative power into the hard unknowns like yellow and such please.


Yellow if you want a free ticket to day three hammer as soon as you join then read over night one phase with your PT~

[Color Green]

Hi new yellow.

Hammer obvious scum in your first post challenge.

You can even take a selfie with the resulting crater in the scum team holes and dreams.

[Color Green]

Actually I'd like your reads from that first initial read before you state your updates.

Did you town read or null read your own slot? Why?

[Color Green]

Green can you make a succinct post on why Heart is scum?

Yes. But only if you still feel it's needed after you've fully read the thread.

[Color Green]

I'm looking to see your reactions, yes.

But... those aren't actually that far apart. I feel the case on Heart is completely self-evident and I expect once you've read up, since you have decided to do so instead of hammer for the fun of it, that you won't NEED a case.

[Color Green]

it's okay Triangle, I townread you for the effort~

[Color Green]

If heart flips scum as I suspect, I could see a case for delaying red, but otherwise nah.

[Color Green]

What do you make of the vanity wagons?

What do you define as "vanity" vs "not vanity" here?

[Color Green]

Color Green (1): Color Red
Color Yellow (1): Color Orange
No Elimination (1): Heart Shape
Star Shape (1): Circle Shape

Even if you call these all "vanity wagons" I feel like my thoughts on the players being voted for and voting on them are exhaustively clear, and this feels like a question that is done for question asking's sake, not a wish to find my own reasonings any deeper given the open-ended nature of it?

Not a good start :/

[Color Green]

Don't worry you're excused, I'll be dead long before it matters.

[Color Green]

Tldr star is very lost town on an apathy spiral. Orange probably town but meh.

Votes on me were much higher but people got off eventually.

And people voting you have good reasons given your predecessor.

[Color Green]

Game got fairly quiet for a Saturday evening.

Sigh.

Just waiting on yellow at this point in time.

[Color Green]

I hope the pause is because you'e deep-diving the rest of the pages.

What about pentagon?

[Color Green]

I guess with five unpaird there probably is scum in there, but I'm not sure I have a preference as far as who should get the delay. If scum get it, I don't know if that's a terrible thing when we don't know what the powers even are yet.

This feels like town.

I take back my comment about having a similar approach.

Green, did you expect your first post to get such a reaction?

I didn't particularly think anything about it one way or the other. Things needing saying so they got said.

[Color Green]

Heart has completely given up just end it.

[Color Green]

New yellow's posts are fine. Enough to quell the ire I had for the first one.

I am as pharaoh. My compassion is as stone. It will take more to shake my pings.

It's not actively jumping off the deep end as far as posting goes though.

[Color Green]

Got any more of them there those darn catch-up posts in your noggin?

[Color Green]

Green's play suggests that their scum range probably does include immediate aggression

Meh. Not really but it's fine to approach it with caution.

[Color Green]

Impatience? Or just testing?

[Color Green]

A little of both overall. 1082 seemed impatient, though. I've been sitting here reading and writing for the last 5 plus hours. I can't process 40+ pages any faster. I don't intend to stop until I'm done or the thread is locked.

Its because Im looking for something specific. I'll tell you one way or another tomorrow.

[Color Green]

Well nap time. Cheers for waking up tonthe rest of your catch-up saga.

[Color Green]

Make the mod relock the game by hammering a nail into heart challenge.

[Color Green]

Pour one out yellow. You know you want to.

[Color Green]

If he flips red

Then we flip color red!


The mutual chainsaw blue noticed is not to be forgotten.

[Color Green]

LMFAO you got robbed.

[Color Green]

But yeah, Red next assuming scumflip. Evaluate from there with hopefully night action data but not holding my breath that PR pairs do much.

[Color Green]

VOTE: Red

And then...

[Color Green]

Spoiler: Where To Next?

I see your post, so I'll go ahead and post some more catch up.


I retract <Pentagon> based on page 11. New-Red's discomfort with Pentagon's town-read of his predecessor feels genuine. Not a strong town point, but a point.

Purple's 282 gave me a little pause but it's a philosophical pause. I like the way they post their reactions and musings. It seems in the moment and unguarded.

Blue's thoughts on Diamond in 287, especially the latter portion of that post are close to my thoughts on Diamond at this point. I'm a little more harsh about the emotional stuff.

I did NOT see Red's pair offering to pentagon coming!

Circle's 302 yep yep yep!

I like Red's 312 shape reads. I disagree about Green being lackluster in 313, but my impression could be due to time compression in catching up.

I will have some postgame thoughts about Blue's 326 if they turn out to be town.

Hedged approval and soft defense.

Star's 351 is a departure from the focus on his plan, but it's pretty harsh. I doubt this is an aligned interaction.

Red pntagm
slve cmplte.

What led to adding Red to your solve?

Actually, Triangle's attitude has me townlean them, now. Scum is almost never that peculiar. Scum usually try to make themselves seem super reasonable as opposed to what Triangle's been doing so far.

Oh you sweet summer child.


I'm almost to the halfway point and it's slow going now.

I'm hungry for interaction but I can't stay awake much longer.

I'll finish up tomorrow morning.



I hope.

More red-soft-defending without outright commit.

I like Orange's catch-up on page 22, especially 512 and 513. It's also a good touch point in my big catch up to see some of the same observations and questions on my mind from someone coming back to the game at that point. However, I think 517 discounts what looked like genuine frustration and irritability from Pentagon regardless of alignment.

519 makes me feel like an bitter cynic.

Circle and Blue popped in with my own impression in 523 and 524.

The Orange vs Pentagon argument on page 22 brings to a head some of my impressions from earlier in the thread. Orange felt cold and Pentagon got completely wrapped around Triangle's arguments for them being scum. There's a fair amount of depth to both of their positions.

I like 552 from Pentagon. They're taking on board the viewpoint of a townread and taking a step back on their conflict with Orange.

Reading through both their posts through page 23, genuine looking course corrections are setting in. It seems the cold sense I get from Orange's posts is personality and playstyle.

I guess with five unpaird there probably is scum in there, but I'm not sure I have a preference as far as who should get the delay. If scum get it, I don't know if that's a terrible thing when we don't know what the powers even are yet.

If scum this is something to look back at.

I should've waited and paired with Orange.
RIP.

I'm taking this as a personal challenge to give you reason not to regret your choice!

Red's posts on page 25 harden a slowly growing impression that their observations about other players have usually been surface level and comparatively they're not digging into the meat of the game.

I see a reads list!

And this is a good break point.

Start of the turn and burn.

I'm still here and reading. The game feels more data dense now that I'm well into the voting discussions. I have about 8 pages to go.

Since you asked, have another post.

With 806 I should stop calling out Circle posts. I haven't read a single one so far that has shaken my initial read. I'll comment if I ever do see something that bothers me.

I think the problem isn't really trajectory so much as you have very palpable reads that were supposedly made pre-getting your role and then you don't seem to be following them afterward. You are giving the impression you changed some of your reads before your first post.

Wonder why that could be?

VOTE: Green

I still like the heart wagon but I feel them and green aren't s/s.
Green feels scummier for a few reasons and they are actually active.

Feels a bit like a chainsaw in the wild.

823 feels like a sincere pushback, but NAI at best.

I have trouble believing it's artificial from Green!scum because he pushed at you ~12m after replace in.

IMO that's far too short a time for someone to rep in, see they are scum, then scan the thread for things to attack with.

The belief that you are mafia because of that post should probably have been formed prior to replacing in, making it a belief Green had prior to receiving his role pm....

I guess it's possible he's a very daring scumbag who has no hesitation about getting into it aggressively right off the bat but I don't often see that.


I am wondering do you have any reason to townread Heart? I don't think there was anything in his iso that seemed townie and Circle does make a good case that he does seem to be just coasting with making some very noncommital comments.

I can't remember if I posted it and I'm not going to look back for it, but at some point I thought that your play suggested your scumrange isn't wide enough include the playfulness you exhibited in your spoilered post about shapes thoughts.

Green's play suggests that their scum range probably does include immediate aggression. I don't townread the slot off of that. It's more about targets and effects for me. Also, just a sense of when stances on me personally don't feel like they're from town. That's hard to discern right now due to not much time in the game, so I'm weighing that I've come to a fair amount of our reads coinciding at the point where they posted their pre replace in reads. The similarities of their reads to mine versus the much fewer similarities of Orange's reads list a page or two later shook up my read of Orange a little.

calling it now yellow is the scumbag for this game that people will let coast too long for ?reasons?

I on the other hand don't coast as any alignment.

If it's Yellow-Red-Heart then I believe I am owed a beer.

No beer for you!

Heart's thoughts on Star, delay, etc on page 34 and 35 don't make me hate them more. But they don't really sway me either. I was a little surprised at Circle's unvote there.

Note again the read not given as a direct read, but given space for backpedal.

Questions? Comments? Exclamations?

This is to everyone.

Mmmmm. Thoughts on where to look after heart flips, depending on alignment? (I'm assuming heart shutting down means he's scum, but always good to consider contingencies)

I'm mostly assuming that, too. I didn't like the content of his last series of posts about 5 pages back. But, there was a fair amount of effort to it.

If they're town, I'll want to rethink Red. It's possible scum-Red would take their side, but the potential downside if Heart's wagon faded was Red looks like the player votes would flow to.

I'd want to look harder at Star and maybe Pentagon.

Where would you want to look?

Note that red as a place to go after heart-scum-flip is not mentioned.

[Color Green]

I mean FFS the cross-chainsaw thing is a shining beacon of a redcase.

Also, you know, the incriminating result diamond and I have.

[Color Green]

incriminating result

To be clear, I submitted a name cop action on Red and got back "red" as a result. Diamond did a name cop on me and got back "green" as a result, so clearly alignments are now known for the both of us!

[Color Green]

Murder (In Order~!)

Color Red
Color Yellow
Star Shape
Color Orange
Pentagon Shape

Don't Murder (Roughly in Order)

Color Green
Circle Shape
Color Blue
Arrow Shape
Diamond Shape
Triangle Shape
Color Purple

Honestly only purple would I even deem should go into the limpool from the don't kills.

[Color Green]

It's a joke you nerds.

[Color Green]

You weren’t supposed to tell them. >:(

I mean it might as well be a real cop though.

[Color Green]

Heart Shape (7): Color Green, Color Blue, Diamond Shape, Arrow Shape, Pentagon Shape, Color Purple, Circle Shape

Color Green (1): Color Red
Color Yellow (1): Color Orange
No Elimination (1): Heart Shape

Not voting (3): Color Yellow, Triangle Shape, Star Shape

I mean realistically I think the entire Heart wagon is pure there. But I added more names to the murder list (in order recall) just in case I'm turbowrong about Yellow.

[Color Green]

VCA

VCA can die with a sharp pointy stick up the arse.

Not useful in anon games.

[Color Green]

2. If me and heart are s/s, why would I ever hop off when they still have a good chance of being eliminated today? It would be objectively better to stay on to try and gain towncred. Instead they try to discredit my concerns about their slot because "oh they are just jumping off their bus of my other scumread" It's very obviously not being aware of the gamestate because they aren't interested in actually sorting.

thinking more about this and I think its kind of disingenous.

Because I don't really see why town!red sheeps circle's vote on heart and then switches off before heart can even respond to the pressure on him...

also if you read the page this vote flip is on, its quite clear what the motive would be for the vote switch...

Orange votes for Green,

Penta says he might vote for green

Arrow expresses doubt about green

purple says "oh heart isnt a consensus tr?"

red is seeing momentum/opinion change on heart wagon and seems to be taking oppurtunity to try to change direction.. feels v convenient based on thread movement - not actual read change.

[Color Green]

he never asked me what his modifier was.

It's because they gave up and are in antispew mode.

They're trying to get the third one deep and not hurt that third's chances.

Hint: It's yellow who has actual WIM power note the entry.

[Color Green]

Well, I'll be over here with a VCA-less day one solve I'm extremely confident in after having nailed heart's heart to the wall.

Let me know when you want to win I guess.

[Color Green]

Okay, that came off as harsh. Sorry.

Just anxious to get red deaded.

[Color Green]

No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die. Eventually.

[Color Green]

I'm afraid for me, the sins of your slot have stained it for good.

Your focus on defending yourself is pointless. Sell me a universe in which it's Heart-Red-SomebodyElse with a convincing case if you care to extend your time on the mortal coil.

[Color Green]

Was? I still am, and I'm not gonna let them weasel out of it.

[Color Green]

Please don't get modkilled for quoting your PT.

Unless you're scum AND unethical, then do that I guess.

[Color Green]

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 players for an elimination vote.

Vote Count 2.01:

Color Red (4): Color Green, Color Blue, Diamond Shape, Pentagon Shape
Color Orange (1): Arrow Shape,

Not voting (6): Color Red, Color Orange, Color Yellow, Color Purple, Star Shape, Triangle Shape

Day Two ends as soon as two of you cowards hammer this shit

FTFY

[Color Green]

When life gives you obvscum, make obvscum limeade.

[Color Green]

Come on yellow, you can hammer and deny me further agency~

[Color Green]

Hammer red before they even get to check in challenge.

[Color Green]

DO IT FOR CIRCLE

[Color Green]

VOTE: Yellow


Explain.

[Color Green]

Cool.

Orange today and if orange is town, everyone IMMEDIATELY nukes yellow because it's a nokill gambit in that case, aye?

[Color Green]

None of that waffling about diamond shit either from you lot if the game doesn't end.

You kill Yellow tomorrow, no exceptions. Don't let yellow wiggle off the hook, they have the WIM to try it.

[Color Green]

You're missing the additional data of my pair's action.

But like I said, I don't expect you to play, I expect you to die, Mr. Bond.

Either way the game is over if we eliminate both yellow and orange. I'm going to want yellow first but might get overruled!

[Color Green]

"We roleblocked orange" well, no, you didn't actually, not according to the card I've got here.

[Color Green]

I'm cursed.

We have/had 3 abilities that block?

Unless Red was lying about Penta being a jail keeper.

Trying to collect claims for everyone. here's your bridge. Can you quote where red said this? I'd like it if every pair that has NOT stated what they are to claim the TYPE of their ability, in order of reads.


Yellow-Arrow claims Roleblocker, unknown modifier, targeted Orange Night Two
Green-Diamond claims tracker with unknown modifier, that Yellow-Arrow did NOT target Orange Night Two.
Orange-Triangle claims jailkeeper with unknown modifier, targeted Yellow Night Two.
Red-Pentagon claims..... something? Please find where they claimed it so I can check.

That leaves Blue-Circle, and Purple-Heart.

Purple can claim what heart was. Blue can claim what both halves were.

[Color Green]

It's not in this thread. But you know where it absolutely WOULD be?

In the scum PT from night one.

[Color Green]

Oh no you don't, you don't get to backpedal away from THIS scumslip.

[Color Green]

Red must have been lying unless there's somehow duplicate powers. Our ability is Jailkeeper as well.

Red didn't say SHIT itt. Neither did pentagon.

There's ZERO indication that either of them are claiming or even softing a roleblocker/jailkeeper action in the thread.

Go run both their ISOs. I'll wait.

[Color Green]

Oh no you don't, you don't get to backpedal away from THIS scumslip.

I can't scum slip.

Right sure you just out of sheer coincidence based an entire setup argument on data you pulled out of the ether.

If pentagon walks in here and confirms that they're a role blocker this dies without ceremony.

[Color Green]

Insert nodding chuck Norris gif here.


Suuuuuuuure you did.

[Color Green]

I don't really care why you chose what you chose.

I care about what pentagon has to say upon their entry.

And don't worry. You absolutely will die for it.

[Color Green]

Before you joined the game, actually!

[Color Green]

It's a shame you joined after the scumteam had already made the grave error of letting town find town while they lurked it out; but as a replacement there's nothing you can do but make us earn the win.

[Color Green]

Hi Pentagon.

Is your pairing a blocker/jailkeeper of any sort?

Because if so yellow scum claimed because red told yellow your pair's ability in the scum topic and yellow forgot it wasn't public knowledge~

[Color Green]

I mean, you can if you want to.

[Color Green]

be the shining star you always wanted to be? Or don't, idk.

[Color Green]

be the shining star you always wanted to be? Or don't, idk.

[Color Green]

Wow, rare site being laggy as shit doublepost.

[Color Green]

(But yeah, put Yellow out of their misery, or they'll feel the need to keep tryharding)

[Color Green]

This has to be any% and not 100% or Hitless since they got off a kill on poor circle.

[Color Green]

K yellow fess up before the mod gets here.

[Color Green]

You two really ought to get a goddamn room~

I hear Sybaris has great specials going on right now.