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[Andante]

lmaooo what even am I walking into, this convo is worse than rvs, and I hate rvs

[Andante]

datisi rolled scum this game lol

[Andante]

i genuinely do like frogsfrogs's tone for town. and considering they said they're a newbie...

A read like this... it could be cause I replaced into a scum game with frogs, but frogs is really good as scum, one look at a scum game from frogs, I feel like you wouldn't have said this about frogs, it feels like you're scum and know frogs town

[Andante]

cause you were bringing up "cause they said they're a newbie" that typically implies you'd at least glance at past games, idk your wording there, I feel like you're scum frogs town

[Andante]

We still in RVS or nah

nahhh

[Andante]

@ Andante: I see you at the bottom of the activity list. But I read elsewhere, that you are an "extreme hyperposter". Your postcount in other games seem to confirm this evaluation. Wha are you so different in this game so far?

I know, that I am at the bottom, too, but that is my normal style I guess.

uhh kinda busy irl/forgetting about this game, I don't do RVS, so I was letting yall just do whatever. and yeah I normally post a lot, but that's regardless of my alignment lol

[Andante]

why are there even votes on me? wanna take those off? or nah

[Andante]

I think this might be scumtisi but I don't want to fuck up my read rate of finding town!datisi the past bazillion games early and then making him hella paranoid when I buddy up to him the whole game

You feel confident in a SR in the first 60 posts? that's... wow

[Andante]

normally it takes me like, at least 200 to feel confident in anything

[Andante]

dang... im never voted in rvs

[Andante]

we getting real wild out here

[Andante]

alrighht definitely still happy with my current vote seeing how things are progression

things are clearly progressing quickly...

[Andante]

Thoughts on the wagon anyone?

the wagon is dumb, pressuring me gets us no where

[Andante]

@ Andante: I see you at the bottom of the activity list. But I read elsewhere, that you are an "extreme hyperposter". Your postcount in other games seem to confirm this evaluation. Wha are you so different in this game so far?

I know, that I am at the bottom, too, but that is my normal style I guess.

however, I do want to sr kenny. Feels like kenny is trying to set up a reason to push me/join that wagon

[Andante]

like, who cares if I'm not an "extreme hyperposter" I post when I want, and I match the room. if no one else isn't talking, I'm not spamming...

[Andante]

I have yet to have a reason to move my vote off of andante so I'm content staying put for now

Actually, I fail to see how there's no reason to move off me

VOTE: Meg

[Andante]

I mean, without me around, no one is doing much, that alone should scream that I’m town.
I’m just highly annoyed all attention is on me, like it’s genuinely wasting time.
Why is wanting to do something an issue? “I want to sr X” just means, I think X might be scum but I’m not sure
I don’t make good reads under pressure so I suggest people actually either start trying, or just flip the votes to someone else, but if no one is actually wanting to play, that’s cool we can vote/interrogate andante some more.

I think that answers all the questions/concerns thrown my way… like seriously I’m the only one even TRYING to play the game here, yet “why should we tr you?” is actually being said to me?? what even…

[Andante]

I have neither seen much scummy from anybody else

you've seen content from others?

[Andante]

But honestly Andante is on a good way to get my vote.

nice

[Andante]

Probably gotta iso again

iso again? now?

[Andante]

So I’m not saying that Meg looks good by any means but when you compare them both they’re doing the same thing just kind coasting. One just jumped on a wagon. But I mean this early I didn’t mind it cos it was a RVS that turned into a “I don’t mind staying here” but if they continue to not scum hunt then that’ll be a problem.



I just wanted to focus on andante

I get you on this with both basically doing the same. For me it's rather that Meg feels more "calculated" while Andante just lashed out. If Andante continues like that it's indeed a problem though in terms of readability.

My problem with Andantescum is that, considering the wagon, with kenny and me (while I am leaning more on town now I was considering voting Andante on first read) this is the only wagon so far that could have gone through, at least from my point of view. If scum her partner is either really passive or bussed. Bussing aside the only viable partner for Andante would be dwlee, maybe frogs to an extent and I am not really feeling that. Like I get it's preflip, however I tend to get skeptical in such scenarios.

well if andante is scum then I have you marked for most likely partner

and what happens for when I'm not scum?

[Andante]

I really need to put actual effort into this game

[Andante]

sorry I've been... not here, holidays are kinda crazy, and it's kinda hard to actually care when this game was just votes on me and "why shouldn't I be voting you" like, uhhh yall do you I guess, but I'm not flipping red

[Andante]

Can you name one townie thing Andante has done this game?

I'm here, and that's towny!

[Andante]

that's fun. I'm not scum

[Andante]

but unless you wanna flip town, go ahead and vote me, cause I'm definitely green lol Not my fault that I can't seem to get motivated for a game that's basically been tunneling me since it started, so mehh. you wanna flip me? go for it. I refuse to claim no matter what, so it's a gamble on flipping me. Am I VT? Am I PR? who knows??

[Andante]

meg, why are you voting andante

"Guilty until proven innocent"

[Andante]

Testerossa is town, that's like a gut feeling, but I feel pretty good about them being town

[Andante]

Eh, not put off by any of Nips' other posts. I kinda like the way their analysis is all over the place.

I can forgive 232.

This is telling me House maf. Nips town

[Andante]

Since this is a frogs game and I have that word in my name TWICE, I think you can all see how I deserve to win by default. Everyone please respond accordingly

VOTE: Dwlee99

Really bad entrance tbh

[Andante]

I like Datisi a lot for town for being the first to share real reads! No clue how he can read bugspray at this point but, like, I don't know anything about them and Datisi says he'll explain, so fine.

mehhh house/bugspray + frogs team?

[Andante]

Your play doesn't warrant it?

What have you done this game to make you think you should be townread?

What answer do you think you'll get, asking Andante to explain why she thinks that she's a townie?

This ISO is a lot of questions, and not much analysis for the number of questions being asked

[Andante]

Actually
VOTE: Andante
E-1!!!
VOTE: Bugspray

Do you have any thoughts, actually, on Andante right now, Dwlee? Or thoughts on anyone besides Datisi?

Could be frogs and dwlee

[Andante]

frogs is looking like maf to me though

[Andante]

What actually made you switch your vote to Dwlee in the first place, Meg? You've said so much less about them

Frogs isn't with meg

[Andante]

Datisi, what are your thoughts on frogs?

[Andante]

Datisi - nice slayer's
MegAzumarill - ???
Emperor flippyNips - ???
Andante - kinda town idk
Testarossa - hella town
frogsfrogs - I meme'd this town but hate the reads list ^-^
bugspray - not scum with datisi but likely scum
Dwlee99 - hella town
kennyk - hella town

my poe rn is bugs/meg/frogs/flippy nips

I was just about to ask why frogs town after that first list where frogs wasn't in your poe, but you only sr a reads list from frogs?

[Andante]

Actually
VOTE: Andante
E-1!!!
VOTE: Bugspray

Do you have any thoughts, actually, on Andante right now, Dwlee? Or thoughts on anyone besides Datisi?

Could be frogs and dwlee

What actually made you switch your vote to Dwlee in the first place, Meg? You've said so much less about them

Frogs isn't with meg

i don't get how the above is +partner with dwlee but the other is -partner with meg

like they both look like throwaway nothing interactions lol

I mean, I'm just saying how my brain works here, sure I "could" be wrong, but like, I'm pretty sure I could see a partner quoting their partner voting and going like... WAIT no, that's for frogs +bugspray/house scum. Dwlee votes frogs's partner, so that's where frogs goes in "heyyyyy so Andante? that's a scumread right?" like, it feels like frogs is trying to shift attention off of bugspray. Instead of "Explain the sr" it's "look over there"

and the Meg thing, I don't see partners interacting like that

[Andante]

House, that was your 4th post into the game, you're not saying that about your partner, thus, if you are scum, it's not with Nips

[Andante]

frogs/house is sounding like my scumteam, and I kinda feel good about that

[Andante]

I mean hey, frogs doesn't read as town to me. I could be wrong on the partner, but I'm pretty certain on frogs here

[Andante]

There is no freaking way Testarossa is maf, that entrance... I never see that coming from scum, strong TR. I also just recently realized 9 people, so this game should be fairly easy

[Andante]

Meg... I don't understand the constant tunneling towards me, but whatever, very well could be from scum, I SR frogs, and that's where my confidence ends

VOTE: frogs

[Andante]

Andante's analysis, now that they've started to give it, seems so goal focused and fake to me. In 314 they really answer "Why are you reading these two similar interactions in totally contradictory ways" with "It's just what I think / No wait, I mean something different"? Still justifying reads solely through vibes, making vague statements about how they see my very first post as somehow substantial enough to be "really bad". I'm seeing these posts as so manufactured for creating the reads they

want

to be giving

Goal focused? yes.
I was trying to find scum, it's a 9 person game, ISO 1 by 1

fake? no.
What's fake about it? I was giving my thoughts in real time. Give me something specific you feel is fake, cause I guarantee you none of that was fake

[Andante]

Cause I'm not really liking this whole "Andante's analysis is fake" thing, like nah, it's real, and I'm happy to explain any part, 314 yeah, what about that, instead of just "I meant..." I left my real time realization in. Corrected what I meant, why would scum even do that in the first place? I'm always open to reconsider my reads. And I will tell you, going at me like "so goal focused and fake" is not a great start...

yeah, my GOAL was to actually start playing the game, up till today, I barely did anything, which isn't hard to notice... now tryhard andante is here, ready to figure something out, cause if no one else wants to lead, I can

[Andante]

you're all good!! not rude at all!! mehhh figured I should at least put some effort into this game... not like anyone else was, I still just love the "fake analysis" I gave... like that was barely an analysis... it was like "these 2 lines seem off to me" to bounce the idea off others, see if I was on to something, no one really helped confirm/deny anything.... I love the effort we're all giving here!! 10/10 job town

[Andante]

This is the longest I've seen someone sit on E-1 and not get hammered lol also the fact frogs doesn't seem to care?
What are people actually waiting for...

[Andante]

interesting kill

[Andante]

VOTE: house
I'm good with house next

[Andante]

Eh, not put off by any of Nips' other posts. I kinda like the way their analysis is all over the place.

I can forgive 232.

This is telling me House maf. Nips town

What actually made you switch your vote to Dwlee in the first place, Meg? You've said so much less about them

Frogs isn't with meg[/quote

If I had spot on reads this game? hahahaha my ego will be very happy

[Andante]

I plan to do some analysis with emp flipping so not sure atm

you are not sure about house at the moment? really?

yeah I was questioning that too lol not sure how that flip changes much read wise, like sure my gut reaction was "maybe I'm wrong somewhere" like, I thought for sure I was dead here, I was the one who basically tunneled frogs
but like, it's not testarossa for that entrance, not kenny- why would partners just leave a vote on each other like that, I don't really think it's you.
That just leaves House, Dwlee, Meg
I think 350 was frogs being like "Dwlee is town, how do you sr that?"

House hammered the frogs vote, Meg wasn't on the wagon

House also said "So, frogs & Meg aren't scum together." like what? just cause frogs was saying meg teams?

I think just because of how long frogs was on E-1 and House went from "Y'all do me a solid and hold off on hammering until tomorrow so I can get some rest tonight." to hammering frogs an hour later? I think it literally has to be House. and if by some odd chance it's not, it's meg, but I'm fairly certain here

[Andante]

evidence points too strongly towards house for me to not vote house here

[Andante]

I'm VT. I don't think this wagon is good at all. Meg/Dwlee nor Meg/Andante can't be maf together but I'd bet at least one of them.

Looking at this though, I don't understand what frogs was trying to say, but I could see meg being partner and saying this like "go get meg not me, meg flips red. tr me"

[Andante]

UNVOTE: house [/unvot]

house claim

[Andante]

UNVOTE: house

[Andante]

in case house is pr or a role with info, I'm giving them a chance to talk

[Andante]

uh when I replaced in with frogs scum, frogs was doing really good, that's all I remember though

[Andante]

If house doesn't show up in 24 hours I take that as a scum claim and I'm back to voting house

[Andante]

If house doesn't show up in 24 hours I take that as a scum claim and I'm back to voting house

Why? Not like they can scheme with their partners anyhow

why what? I'm not sitting here for a week just to vote out maf. Meg, if you're town, house is literally the answer, I'm not making this more complicated than it has to be

[Andante]

If house doesn't show up in 24 hours I take that as a scum claim and I'm back to voting house

Why? Not like they can scheme with their partners anyhow

why what? I'm not sitting here for a week just to vote out maf. Meg, if you're town, house is literally the answer, I'm not making this more complicated than it has to be

I guess we shouldn't start to elim too quickly this early. It is not that the game is solved and we have a breaking strategy. While I have my doubts about house, too, there are a lot of possibilities, that he is town. And in this case a fast elim isn't good for our information level.

if house is town who's maf? if there's all these possibilities... there's literally only 2 options

[Andante]

If house doesn't show up in 24 hours I take that as a scum claim and I'm back to voting house

Why? Not like they can scheme with their partners anyhow

why what? I'm not sitting here for a week just to vote out maf. Meg, if you're town, house is literally the answer, I'm not making this more complicated than it has to be

I guess we shouldn't start to elim too quickly this early. It is not that the game is solved and we have a breaking strategy. While I have my doubts about house, too, there are a lot of possibilities, that he is town. And in this case a fast elim isn't good for our information level.

if house is town who's maf? if there's all these possibilities... there's literally only 2 options

With 7 players left, there are 6 options for everyone except scum. Some might be more likely than others, but they exist.
For example you ticked me off your list of possible partners, because I left my vote on frogs before I left for V/LA. It sure isn't too likely, that scum partners do that. But it was the only vote on that slot at that time.

so you're saying I'm wrong on you?
You're acting like everyone here has an equal chance at being scum, but there's literally interactions that exist that make it pretty impossible for some people to be maf. I'm confused what you're going at, and I'm not dealing with this.

house. claim. I'm voting you in 24 hours

[Andante]

VOTE: Testarossa

This is my best guess, because of:

frogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsfrogsVOTE: frogsfrogs

I ONLY SEE FROGS !!!

I don't know if it's still site meta, but before I left it was common to see a member of scum vote a buddy.

It's safer than picking a random townie and potentially being called on the carpet for it.

uh what? the theme of the game is frogs? that's what I thought the frogsfrogsfrogs stuff was about? nothing related to the player frogs? as soon as I saw the theme and that we had a frogs in the game I laughed

[Andante]

Oh derp again... andante what's with you replying to 407 as if it was about you?

what are you asking? You gave a reason someone was scum. I disagreed, and thus said something

[Andante]

VOTE: House

[Andante]

house maf. that easy

[Andante]

can yall just vote House? you’re both town

[Andante]

lol House has just been sitting E-1 and no one wants to hammer... like can we just end the day?

[Andante]

I mean, House vote ends the game. No one is talking/saying anything. Like, if someone disagrees, make a case. but right now, this game is just sitting here. no one is doing anything. can we just end it?? instead of sitting here for a week. saying nothing

[Andante]

its been a few hours. no one cares. just hammer it to end the game. not hard

[Andante]

woooo gg!! good work all!

[Andante]

@QuietOwl I loved the frog art

[Andante]

Can we see dead and mason PTs?

[Andante]

and here comes andante, out of fucking nowhere, and starts screaming how frogs is scum.

LMAOOOO That thread was a good read