Open 839: White flag Holder [Game Over]

[RH9]

Luckily, I have played with and won before as a Jester, during a session of Face-to-Face Mafia. In fact, it was winning as Jester that got me into Mafia which lead to Chat Mafia which finally lead to Forum Mafia.

But then, I promise that I'm not Jester this game. If I break this promise, you can just scream at me postgame.

[RH9]

Is numberQ trying BBB's Gambit or something like it? I am probably wrong about the Gambit's name though.

[RH9]

Is numberQ trying BBB's Gambit or something like it? I am probably wrong about the Gambit's name though.

can u explain wht the gambit ur thinking of is?

i dont know too much abt gambits

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... 27s_Gambit

It's basically just reverse psychology. NumberQ isn't really doing this though, Dwlee is.

I got confused. Thank you.

[RH9]

M&M obv scum.

RAWR

VOTE: Milk & Mocha

~G

Explain.

[RH9]

you

Who?

M&M was talking about

Dwlee99

aka 'you'.

[RH9]

you

Who?

M&M was talking about

Dwlee99

aka 'you'.

EBWOP

[RH9]

Question, are we trying to eliminate jester or let jester get night killed?

Let Jester get NKed. It's safer beecause it stops Mafia from NKing as well as letting us win once two Mafia are dead. However, hunting by association is said to be bad with the White Flag mechanic. See this page on the White Flag Gambit.

[RH9]

As for actual claims so far there is no reason to take anyone's claim seriously.
Every player in this game has already claimed VT in practice. No role (except jester) wants to look otherwise and jester won't outright claim scum.

That's kind of true which makes it harder for us to scumhunt.
@Kerset May you please do a VC?

i am waiting for pagetop

[RH9]

VOTE: vote: not_mafia

I think that MegAzumarill meant something like

Code: Select all

[v]Player Name[/v]

But I don't think N_M's entrance is AI. Was it one of his other posts that pinged you? I find them quite NAI, to be honest with you.

[RH9]

Complaining about NM and expecting something to change is like complaining to Wells Fargo and expecting them to give your money back

Kind of true. It's not like N_M is magically going to change his entrance, which I've gotten used to.

[RH9]

Question, are we trying to eliminate jester or let jester get night killed?

>:/
seeing as it getting nightkilled makes the mafia lose that ability, I would think the answer obvious
VOTE: Andante
I fail to see what the aim of the question is besides busywork.

I can get your point. It does seem like she's trying to appear like she's solving.
VOTE: Andante

[RH9]

Why does one question about mech strategy make Andante worth voting?

Well. I guess that you're right and I overeacted. UNVOTE: Andante

[RH9]

are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false

Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

towns would have true feelings about who they think is mafia and they would share them

they would not make up fake feelings and post a fake list

that is what the mafia do to try to confuse us

You forgot about the Jester. Why wouldn't the Jester want to confuse us? Don't they want to do that to get themselves eliminated?

[RH9]

are you guys talking about me? im not frustrated i just think that he acted really confident about his list when he had no good reason to... i think it shows that all of hsi feelings about the list are false

Hey, Dwlee already brought this up earlier, but please make sure to use the correct pronouns when referring to them, as well as everyone else here.

To address your post though, what makes you think confidence = scummy? Even if their feelings about their reads list was false, why would that be scummy?

towns would have true feelings about who they think is mafia and they would share them

they would not make up fake feelings and post a fake list

that is what the mafia do to try to confuse us

You forgot about the Jester. Why wouldn't the Jester want to confuse us? Don't they want to do that to get themselves eliminated?

And why wouldn't Mafia share their 'true' feelings? Sure, it's White Flag but it doesn't mean that Mafia will share 'fake' feelings. And what do you define as 'fake'? If you think that Dwlee faked that list of names, have you thought that they were genuinely thinking it and were sharing their 'true' feelings? What if Dwlee was confident in their POE and it was their 'true' feelings?

[RH9]

What's this PoE? How accurate is it?

It's 111 and you can decide its accuracy through reading it.

[RH9]

RH9 what do you think of marci voting you?

[RH9]

RH9 would you say IIoA is a playstyle thing for you

Depends. I could be analytical at times.

[RH9]

i feel like people are askng me too many questions, please just post who you think is mafia and we can vote

I still think it's Dwlee - becaues he is just sitting back not committing to anything but being confrontational and trying to make something out of nothing

he wants to look like hes town by posting reads but nothing on the list is justified, its all made up and i dont think he has any idea how to explain it

vote: Dwlee

Dwlee prefers 'they'.

[RH9]

i feel like people are askng me too many questions, please just post who you think is mafia and we can vote

I still think it's Dwlee - becaues he is just sitting back not committing to anything but being confrontational and trying to make something out of nothing

he wants to look like hes town by posting reads but nothing on the list is justified, its all made up and i dont think he has any idea how to explain it

vote: Dwlee

Dwlee prefers 'they'.

T H E Y

[RH9]

How did you reach said PoE?

Ah wow actual questions. I based my townreads on how people interacted with my opener. I felt that scum were more likely to just kinda ignore me, whereas town kinda jumped in giving opinions on my slot

That makes sense.

[RH9]

Hmm... I ignore most people though. Seems flawed.

I didn't even notice Dwlee's entrance.

[RH9]

@Kerset VC again

[RH9]

I agree with everything Three said about Nooky. And, their play isn't really Jester indicative.

calling us Nooky is offensive.


I demand you address us as God Empress Poora III, Ascendant to the Golden Bear Throne, High Guardian of O839, Ruler of the Known Universe and immediately unvote us as well as apologize for making me type this.

Can't I just call you M&M?

[RH9]

Also can we just stop for a second and think about how ridiculous it is that Mr. Bad Body Hygiene is accusing us of not doing anything when we literally are the #1 posting slot by post count not even including the posts I made from my main account?

it's positively scummy

VOTE: Three

I see. That sounds evil of Three. But I see why I should vote him. Please convince me.

[RH9]

Post Count=/= productivity

True.

[RH9]

yes i do have a reason wtf isnt it obvious

It is obvious. It's because I unvoted too fast.

[RH9]

I feel like half the player list is trying to jester-tell. Either that or I'm going insane.

I think that you're fine.

[RH9]

It must've been stolen by the mafia to make us look bad.




townread us for my dank meme selection plz

OK.

[RH9]

We are open for recruiting btw

no scum need apply

So if I join, will I get benefits?

[RH9]

We are open for recruiting btw

no scum need apply

So if I join, will I get benefits?

what can you do for us?

TR you.

[RH9]

We are open for recruiting btw

no scum need apply

So if I join, will I get benefits?

what can you do for us?

TR you.

Just joking.

[RH9]

Dwlee wagon is bad.

How about M&M wagon?

[RH9]

I don't think anyone's explained the case against M&M yet tbh. At least not addressing my questions about it from earlier.

Do you think that they are deliberately doing it or do you think that they just missed them?

[RH9]

I don't think anyone's explained the case against M&M yet tbh. At least not addressing my questions about it from earlier.

Do you think that they are deliberately doing it or do you think that they just missed them?

No clue.

If someone who wants me to vote M&M could look at 294 and elaborate on your read a little, you'd really only be helping yourself. Because right now I feel like I only have townreads, and I'm pretty sure it's because this setup has a jester so it's making me question any other kind of read.

So the M&M wagon makes no sense and people still vote for them? That makes no sense to me.

[RH9]

M&M wagon exists because this is both players scum meta, and they have low Jester equity.

I comprehend.

[RH9]

bruh my scum meta is awesome

Are you the Noraa head? Because I know that you are so good that I thought that STD was your scumbuddy in Open 833 (for a while).

[RH9]

bruh my scum meta is awesome

Are you the Noraa head? Because I know that you are so good that I thought that STD was your scumbuddy in Open 833 (for a while).

Don't know about Pooky though.

[RH9]

I am Pooky

I really don't know your scumgame or scumrange.

[RH9]

throw two roles in there get double the odds of being rite

You mean 'right'?
A 'rite' is some kind of ceremony ritual thing.

[RH9]

Australians and their "correct spellings"

Really. Does the worst do it as well?

[RH9]

Australians and their "correct spellings"

Really. Does the worst do it as well?

And DeasVail?

[RH9]

@Kerset VC please

[RH9]

@Kerset Didn't ahhlo vote for Dwlee99

Votes are being declared with vote tag (rule IX).

[RH9]

Have you considered that Mafia is trying to coordinate a miselimination?

[RH9]

Have you considered that Mafia is trying to coordinate a miselimination?

Where's the coordination?

Most of the others, apart from you, only voted due to the Andante vote-unvote. They probably thought that it would be an easy wagon because one mistake can take you down. I think that you're the only person on the wagon who actually has a good reason.

[RH9]

DArby hasn't unvoted Dwlee99.

[RH9]

DArby hasn't unvoted Dwlee99.

But then, DArby has been gone since ages.

[RH9]

Also I forgot DArby was in this game lmao

exactly, and that isnt a good thing

Why vote for no activity when you can vote for scummy activity?

Great question considering that she was an early advocate for my wagon.

[RH9]

everybody flocking towards it isnt my cup of tea

Aww. Thank you.

[RH9]

Things are quietening down.

[RH9]

Take in the peace.

[RH9]

numberQ, do you think that I am Jester or scum?

[RH9]

numberQ, do you think that I am Jester or scum?

By scum, I mean Mafia.

[RH9]

Obviously, I'm not Jester.

[RH9]

Harley Quinn, do you think that numberQ knows?
(Not hinting anything.)

[RH9]

I'm not going to tell.

[RH9]

Harley Quinn, do you think that numberQ knows?
(Not hinting anything.)

I haven’t read anything yet including why Darby voted Dwelee. So I need to understand why you and M&M are the top wagons.

I was talking about your main because then numberQ will realise that somebody knows him from Squid Game and will know his scumgame and scumrange.

[RH9]

And I spoiled it.

[RH9]

I was in squid game...

Oops. I spoiled it even more. Now you know who Harley Quinn is.

[RH9]

I'm still not going to say who she is though.

[RH9]

Harley Quinn, do you think that numberQ knows?
(Not hinting anything.)

I haven’t read anything yet including why Darby voted Dwelee. So I need to understand why you and M&M are the top wagons.

I was talking about your main because then numberQ will realise that somebody knows him from Squid Game and will know his scumgame and scumrange.

Okay fair and thanks for not actually outing it. It’s only one game though and I have zero experience with town!him, so any of you could probably ISO him in Squid game too, right?

If you are into meta, Open 835 is the one time I played with town!numberQ.

[RH9]

Harley Quinn, do you think that numberQ knows?
(Not hinting anything.)

I haven’t read anything yet including why Darby voted Dwelee. So I need to understand why you and M&M are the top wagons.

I was talking about your main because then numberQ will realise that somebody knows him from Squid Game and will know his scumgame and scumrange.

Okay fair and thanks for not actually outing it. It’s only one game though and I have zero experience with town!him, so any of you could probably ISO him in Squid game too, right?

If you are into meta, Open 835 is the one time I played with town!numberQ.

I replaced into that game.

[RH9]

Maybe mentioning Squid Game was a horrible idea.

[RH9]

At least, there was conversation.

[RH9]

Have you considered that Mafia is trying to coordinate a miselimination?

Where's the coordination?

Most of the others, apart from you,

only voted due to the Andante vote-unvote.

They probably thought that it would be an easy wagon because one mistake can take you down. I think that you're the only person on the wagon who actually has a good reason.

That's not why we voted though.

~G

Ok. So your vote was a reaction test?
And datsi's was because I am 'lacklustre' and 'muted'. Technically, because I'm trying a new playstyle since this is a Jester game. And I could talk more, if you want.

[RH9]

Looking back, it seems that I misread posts.

[RH9]

Maybe I am the best elimination wagon!

[RH9]

Like if I'm Jester, I win! If I'm VT, Town goes around screaming at each other! If I'm Mafia, Town gets smug and the other scum cause an implosion!

[RH9]

Though, I claim VT in advance.

[RH9]

And I promise that I'm neither the IC, the Jester, nor Mafia.

[RH9]

My scumgame involves a lot of diversion but sadly I have no completed scumgames to exhibit

yet

.

[RH9]

I might have one in the

future

but by that time,

this game

would have

ended

.

[RH9]

By the way, don't take the bolding seriously.

[RH9]

It was meant as a reaction test but I got no results.

[RH9]

Where is everybody?

[RH9]

I can't gamesolve when nobody is interacting with me.
Other than that, I'll keep quiet.

[RH9]

Where is everybody?

I am.... HERE!! (sorta)

What did you think of my random bolding of words?

[RH9]

Where is everybody?

I am.... HERE!! (sorta)

What did you think of my random bolding of words?

In 506 and 507.

[RH9]

I can't gamesolve when nobody is interacting with me.
Other than that, I'll keep quiet.

you're joking right

Yes.

[RH9]

Do you find it weird that I randomly bolded words?

[RH9]

Ok. Should we talk about what you think of the M&M wagon? I don't recall M&M doing scum-indicative things.

[RH9]

M&M posted not too much content though.

[RH9]

Could be because they want to have fun on Day 1.

[RH9]

And solve after Day 1.

[RH9]

I am allergic to content

also I already caught three scum

Is this Pooky?

[RH9]

And which three scum? The ones voting you?

[RH9]

I don't think that voting you is illegal.

[RH9]

Though, not voting you isn't either.

[RH9]

Though, not voting you isn't either.

why'd you feel the need to add this?

So M&M doesn't feel offended.

[RH9]

That's because M&M takes great offence by three people voting them.

[RH9]

That's because M&M takes great offence by three people voting them.

That would be Noraa, Pooky probably only notices if he’s close to being run up.

Oh. I can't tell.

[RH9]

I have no idea what to make of RH9 right now. I feel like the smart move as jester at this point would be to shut up and let yourself get voted, so by that logic it reinforces my belief that he's scum trying to jester-tell. But maybe I'm biased because I'm already voting him.

What if I'm Jester trying to avoid getting NKed?

[RH9]

I have no idea what to make of RH9 right now. I feel like the smart move as jester at this point would be to shut up and let yourself get voted, so by that logic it reinforces my belief that he's scum trying to jester-tell. But maybe I'm biased because I'm already voting him.

What if I'm Jester trying to avoid getting NKed?

Or VT trying to confuse scum?

[RH9]

I have no idea what to make of RH9 right now. I feel like the smart move as jester at this point would be to shut up and let yourself get voted, so by that logic it reinforces my belief that he's scum trying to jester-tell. But maybe I'm biased because I'm already voting him.

There’s definitely an interesting 1v1 going on between your slot and RH9 and I intend to figure that out.

It is interesting.

[RH9]

I have too little investment in this game to care if I get flipped instead of M&M, for multiple reasons.

Why do you want M&M flipped?

[RH9]

That's because M&M takes great offence by three people voting them.

That would be Noraa, Pooky probably only notices if he’s close to being run up.

Oh. I can't tell.

It’s easy to tell because their posting styles are extremely different.

I can't tell. Can you remind me?

[RH9]

That's because M&M takes great offence by three people voting them.

That would be Noraa, Pooky probably only notices if he’s close to being run up.

Oh. I can't tell.

It’s easy to tell because their posting styles are extremely different.

I can't tell. Can you remind me?

Well using regular case like I did, is probably Noraa and using phrases like “scumbaggo” are classic Pooky. Cutesy talk as in “bearbearbear” is Noraa.

I see.

[RH9]

Me counting the many good vibes I'll share with

HQ

this game

<3

~Taly

<3

I really love your gifs. That’s from a Tim Burton film right?

I think that it was 'The Nightmare Before Christmas'.

[RH9]

Me counting the many good vibes I'll share with

HQ

this game

<3

~Taly

<3

I really love your gifs. That’s from a Tim Burton film right?

I think that it was 'The Nightmare Before Christmas'.

I thought it might be.

So, I haven’t yet caught up but since M & M and three are hard gunning for each other, what’s your take on that?

Confused. I think that they are bound to put more effort getting each other eliminated than actually solving the rest of the playerlist.

[RH9]

Three seems distracted by M&M while M&M seems to be putting a lot of emphasis on getting rid of Three. It's going to end up being a big distraction due to Three seeming like a capable scumhunter if he wasn't so distracted by M&M, while Pooky and Noraa are usually good players and seem unlikely to benefit from hyper-focusing on Three. I would recommend them to take a break from getting at each other's throats too much of time.

[RH9]

Three seems distracted by M&M while M&M seems to be putting a lot of emphasis on getting rid of Three. It's going to end up being a big distraction due to Three seeming like a capable scumhunter if he wasn't so distracted by M&M, while Pooky and Noraa are usually good players and seem unlikely to benefit from hyper-focusing on Three. I would recommend them to take a break from getting at each other's throats too much of time.

But how do you read both of their alignments is what I’m trying to determine?

I think that M&M is posting too less content so maybe Jester? Three seems to be scumhunting, so I guess Town? Though, Three could be clever scum as well. I'm unsure.

[RH9]

But if I vote Three, maybe this will break the vicious circle. I might decide later.

[RH9]

I'm tunneled because the reverse tunnel on me pings me. If I'm still alive Day 2 I'll be able to evaluate the rest of the player list more efficiently since we'll have some flips to analyze.

Town reads right now are Ahhlo, Datsi, Marci, Toog, maybe Dwlee, maybe Harley. Everyone else is just null at the moment.

OK. This is good. I don't want you wasting your time in that vicious circle with M&M. Speaking of which, they are trying to get rid of you by giving out TRs to those who help.

[RH9]

But if I vote Three, maybe this will break the vicious circle. I might decide later.

Disliking this as it feels like Rh9 trying to distance themselves of fallout from a mislim on three.

Bad logic for a vote either way

Mislim? It takes more than M&M to mislim Three. And I only said it because Three's focus on M&M was a bit unnerving without the explanation.

[RH9]

A vote this late in the day is essentially saying I want this person dead more than anyone else. I was referring to you saying you might vote three over their arguement with M M

I comphrehend. Also did 506 and 507 make you think of anything?

[RH9]

I randomly bolded words but nobody is giving the response I was hoping for.

[RH9]

poooooky can we vote rh9? pretty please!!

Yes, Noraa! Then, you can be BFFs with Three after.

[RH9]

I think m&m is scum

Really? M&M seems like a hydra containing two prodigies.

[RH9]

RH9 wtf are you on about with the bolding?

yet future this game ended

Is this the reaction you've been looking for? Total confusion and a little frustration?

No. It's because scum (and a certain somebody) would pay attention to it. All these words refer to the fact that nobody knows my scumgame so I was expecting scum to go like 'nobody knows scum!RH9, let's get him mislimmed so that we can end the game before that can ever happen'. At least, I did get some kind of reaction to it. (The one, I don't think scum would have.)

[RH9]

RH9 wtf are you on about with the bolding?

yet future this game ended

Is this the reaction you've been looking for? Total confusion and a little frustration?

No. It's because scum (and

some certain somebodies

) would pay attention to it. All these words refer to the fact that nobody knows my scumgame so I was expecting scum to go like 'nobody knows scum!RH9, let's get him mislimmed so that we can end the game before that can ever happen'. At least, I did get some kind of reaction to it. (The one, I don't think scum would have.)

EBWOP

[RH9]

By certain somebodies, I think that they know who they are.

[RH9]

I'll give the benefit of doubt regarding who they are for now.

[RH9]

UNVOTE:

I don't know if

Galron

agrees with this but I don't feel comfortable with this push.

~Taly

You didn't consult with Galron?

[RH9]

UNVOTE:

I don't know if

Galron

agrees with this but I don't feel comfortable with this push.

~Taly

You didn't consult with Galron?

Is that the bad thing about hydrae? The heads don't agree on who to push.

[RH9]

nah because it did not cross my mind until now so

uh

how do you read

Toog

?

~taly

I remember that Toogeloo (as Color Red) once got Nancy Drew 39 (as Pentagon Shape) to 180 her read on them in Mini 2250.

The reason I thought Diamond TMI'd was because as far as I know, we don't know what our powers or modifiers are. So when he claimed that Mafia would have a Roleblock, I assumed he was talking about one of their powers and not the delay action (which isn't a Roleblock).

Shortly after, Pentagon states he didn't like Diamond, which is why I considered Pentagon a good spot to pair with.

I haven't really been trying to scum hunt, so much as figure out who would be my ideal partner.

I think this post pretty much never comes from scum.

So if Toogeloo is scum, they sure are good. Even I didn't realise that they were scum until MegAzumarill replaced in and Cabd scumhunted very well, catching them. (I had Color Red as Null. By the way, what pronoun does MegAzumarill prefer?)

[RH9]

Toogeloo is the best scum player ever after fferyllt that I know. (Always seems null.)

[RH9]

vote toogeloo pls beautifuls :/

Why?

Good question. Why?

[RH9]

vote toogeloo pls beautifuls :/

Why?

Good question. Why?

cuz hes scum

Why are they scum?

[RH9]

Toogeloo is the best scum player ever after fferyllt that I know. (Always seems null.)

Woah now.

Oh, hai Marci.

Though Galron is still better than you at pocketing me.

[RH9]

Toogeloo is the best scum player ever after fferyllt that I know. (Always seems null.)

Woah now.

Oh, hai Marci.

Though Galron is still better than you at pocketing me.

You are good at scum in that you do things which are NAI. Which means that I can't catch scum!you.

[RH9]

Pretty sure ahhlo's voting Dwlee

Yeah. At least with the bold tags.

[RH9]

Toogeloo is the best scum player ever after fferyllt that I know. (Always seems null.)

Woah now.

Oh, hai Marci.

explain why ur scum

How do I know this is town!marcistar saying this?

[RH9]

By the way, look at Micro 1036 for my first completed scumgame.

[RH9]

I got carried by the conf!Town and my scumbuddy. I think that MegAzumarill knows that I was super LAMIST.

[RH9]

By the way, look at Micro 1036 for my first completed scumgame.

Sir you made one post that game

Because I got vigged.

[RH9]

By the way, look at Micro 1036 for my first completed scumgame.

Sir you made one post that game

Because I got vigged.

I was planning to make more if I had survived to Day 2.

[RH9]

We could totes no elim every day, and just let scum shoot hoping they kill the Jester or stump it.

OK.

[RH9]

We have just more than a half of a day to decide.

[RH9]

Why aren't you voting M&M since we were/are on such a crunch with the deadline?

Why should we?

[RH9]

I see no point in lol-voting M&M.

[RH9]

I can see the case for an M&M vote, I'd rather not vote them out right now though, no one else is even close to active... surely we have another option here

Spam posting isn't really "activity," though. Most their posts aren't even game relevant lol.

I see. You know maybe they got bored. Too bored and wanted to create excitement.

[RH9]

Like being bored is NAI.

[RH9]

like i basically haven't ated here and uh this just isn't my scum game. my scum game is either really chill and LAMIST or its a huge mess. i dont see why i take whatever my approach right now is to this game. like ehhh. like im not trying to look scummy but im also not being that chill town leader. this aint my scum game

That sounds like a more complex version of my scumgame. Mine is just to divert attention from my scumbuddies by doing LAMIST or unusual things.

[RH9]

also i just want to say that i've nearly outed harleys main multiple times. way too used to just calling them their other name <3

You did.

[RH9]

also i just want to say that i've nearly outed harleys main multiple times. way too used to just calling them their other name <3

You did

?

EBWOP

[RH9]

also i just want to say that i've nearly outed harleys main multiple times. way too used to just calling them their other name <3

You did.

fuck what

It's like what Bell said. Muscle memory.

I'm too used to ending all my sentences with a full stop.

[RH9]

Datsi is being replaced. Deadline is being postponed until replacement is found.

Remember to use

Code: Select all

[vote][/vote]

for voting as rule IX says.

Vote Count 1.07

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


RH9 (3): MegAzumarill, datsi, numberQ,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, Three, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, ahhlo,
Toogeloo (2): Andante, marcistar,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
Three (1): Milk & Mocha,
Harley Quinn (0):
Andante (0):
numberQ (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
datsi (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(2): RH9, Blood Puppets,

Deadline:

Postponed

Could be an interesting theory except for RH9 also being a top wagon.

Though, the people voting me seem to have an adequate case.

[RH9]

And N_M's still hasn't posted since two days ago.

[RH9]

why is he allowed to play, if he is only going to make fun o fpeople and say mean things?

i change my mind vote: not_mafia

you want to live? you have to paly

claiming jester is nto good e nough, you have to try if you want to play

This has to be town, unless the scumteam has no familarity with NM.

I don't think that N_M and ahhlo seemed to have interacted prior to this game.

[RH9]

So a lot of it is NAI.

[RH9]

So a lot of it is NAI.

Maybe but a lot of people are very familiar with NM’s play, so I’m saying if he’s scum, he’s scum with players also unfamiliar with NM.

Which means that he's unlikely groupscum because too much people know N_M.

[RH9]

Which is why anybody who doesn't know N_M will eventually know him.

[RH9]

So a lot of it is NAI.

Maybe but a lot of people are very familiar with NM’s play, so I’m saying if he’s scum, he’s scum with players also unfamiliar with NM.

Which means that he's unlikely groupscum because too much people know N_M.

Yeah, that’s my working hypothesis.

I comphrehend.

[RH9]

Datsi is being replaced. Deadline is being postponed until replacement is found.

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for voting as rule IX says.

Vote Count 1.07

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


RH9 (3): MegAzumarill, datsi, numberQ,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, Three, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, ahhlo,
Toogeloo (2): Andante, marcistar,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
Three (1): Milk & Mocha,
Harley Quinn (0):
Andante (0):
numberQ (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
datsi (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(2): RH9, Blood Puppets,

Deadline:

Postponed

Could be an interesting theory except for RH9 also being a top wagon.

Do you think RH9 is scum?

I have no clue but he’s doing enough so I don’t understand why he’s a lead wagon.

I will try to read as much of the game as I can and probably just sheep if I haven’t figured out who to vote before deadline.

I feel like he's just getting votes due to playstyle.

But MegAzumarill and numberQ know my playstyle.

[RH9]

yeah and what does scum me gain from that lol. what does do something to save myself even mean???? if you did your meta so well, you should at least know that i getting mislimmed pretty often. if you didn't even get that, then uh lol ur meta dive was not so successful

Note that you got eliminated as scum when STD replaced in and you (the Noraa head, I mean) failed to pocket him and instead looked like you were trying out some scum theatre.

[RH9]

yeah and what does scum me gain from that lol. what does do something to save myself even mean???? if you did your meta so well, you should at least know that i getting mislimmed pretty often. if you didn't even get that, then uh lol ur meta dive was not so successful

Note that you got eliminated as scum when STD replaced in and you (the Noraa head, I mean) failed to pocket him and instead looked like you were trying out some scum theatre.

i mean the scum games that i lose are all close games but ok your point?

That your scumgame contains a lot of pocketing not exhibited in this game.

[RH9]

Datsi is being replaced. Deadline is being postponed until replacement is found.

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Vote Count 1.07

With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


RH9 (3): MegAzumarill, datsi, numberQ,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, Three, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (2): Not_Mafia, ahhlo,
Toogeloo (2): Andante, marcistar,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
Three (1): Milk & Mocha,
Harley Quinn (0):
Andante (0):
numberQ (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
datsi (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting

(2): RH9, Blood Puppets,

Deadline:

Postponed

Could be an interesting theory except for RH9 also being a top wagon.

Do you think RH9 is scum?

I have no clue but he’s doing enough so I don’t understand why he’s a lead wagon.

I will try to read as much of the game as I can and probably just sheep if I haven’t figured out who to vote before deadline.

I feel like he's just getting votes due to playstyle.

But MegAzumarill and numberQ know my playstyle.

And I think that datsi knew too if they're who I think they are. (And that is not Datisi.)

[RH9]

So therefore, I was definitely not voted for playstyle.

[RH9]

So therefore, I was definitely not voted for playstyle.

At least for the people who are still on my wagon.

[RH9]

By the way, I still disagree on voting for M&M.

[RH9]

also now i think rh9 is pocketing me. pooooooooooooooooky poooook

I would never.

[RH9]

also now i think rh9 is pocketing me. pooooooooooooooooky poooook

I would never.

I promise.

[RH9]

So therefore, I was definitely not voted for playstyle.

idk exactly what "voting you for playstyle" means, but my vote on you was because you were acting outside the town meta I recognized. Now you're more in line with that meta, but idk where else to put my vote. Kind of feeling the M&M wagon after these last few pages actually. I see you're not voting, why is that?

I haven't decided. I don't want to repeat the thing I did before.

[RH9]

I think that it's too late for lol-votes now.

[RH9]

you're so scummy ugh. why does pooky not scum read you goddamn.

Who are you talking to?

[RH9]

And Pooky is a genius, Noraa.

[RH9]

you're so scummy ugh. why does pooky not scum read you goddamn.

Who are you talking to?

you

Then, Pooky is definitely a genius.

[RH9]

Trust Pooky. He has a 100% readrate on me.

[RH9]

liar

Why?

[RH9]

What lie did MegAzumarill say?

[RH9]

M&M: *randomly claims IC under pressure but refuses to reveal*

Also M&M: pretty scummy to try to out the IC ngl

Can we please just lim this slot already?

Well, they are unCCed.

[RH9]

They are an unCCed IC claim.

[RH9]

It does seem safer to avoid eliminating them at the moment.

[RH9]

Because if they are Jester, then we'll be just helping them win.

[RH9]

Because they have been acting like one. We can see after the flip if you are right.

[RH9]

However, out of safety, I'm not voting M&M yet.

[RH9]

imagine trying to elim an ic on d1 w i l d

We should wait for now to see if the mod reveals them or not.

Good idea, though they never posted to the mod that they wanted to reveal themselves. They only claimed.

[RH9]

Which means that Kerset might not mod-confirm them.

[RH9]

Anyways, happy holidays to you and your families!

[RH9]

And, for your notice, I will be on vacation from the 27th to the 29th.

[RH9]

If I do post, it will be on the phone.

[RH9]

Did they just claim or did they actually trigger the mod-confirm ability? I'm not digging through 222 posts of theirs to find the claim.

Also I guess the timer is paused for now. I was looking at an older VC and thought we only had like 4.5 hours left. So I thought things were a little more urgent than they are. But they're still kind of urgent if we want to avoid a no lim, and I don't see a reason we would want that.

Anyway wtf why am I still awake. Going to bed now, hopefully.

pedit: If RH9 is correct then yeah, there's absolutely no reason to believe their claim, and I struggle to even see a valid reason for them to have claimed in the first place.

Happy holidays as well!

They claimed. If I read the rules carefully enough, it shouldn't trigger the 'mod-confirm ability'.

[RH9]

Yes. I reread the setup. It doesn't trigger the 'mod-confirm ability'.

[RH9]

Especially, since that it said that it needed to be 'I reveal myself' in bold.
@Kerset Is it OK to say this?

I won't modkill you for saying this without bold tag, if that is your question.

[RH9]

VOTE: NK15

N_M, Not Known 15 isn't even in this game. Why are you voting them?

[RH9]

abra cadabra!

M&M, if you are telling the truth, reveal yourself instead of claiming.

[RH9]

If they don't reveal themselves in a day, consider my intent to vote.

[RH9]

I am going to give them some time for now but if they don't reveal themselves when on E-1, consider my intent to hammer as well.
(Though, hopefully they reveal themselves by then if they are IC.)

[RH9]

VOTE: NK15

N_M, Not Known 15 isn't even in this game. Why are you voting them?

Probably a joke about Meg voting NK15 by accident.

Yeah.

[RH9]

Should I vote M&M to pressure them into revealing over just claiming?

[RH9]

I think that I'll keep my promise and wait for a day.

[RH9]

Actually, no. I'm doing it now.
VOTE: Milk & Mocha

[RH9]

OK. I'll unvote seeing that it was just a really bad joke. Though, please don't fakeclaim IC again. You could have drawn the real one out.
UNVOTE: Milk & Mocha

[RH9]

Just a warning that fakeclaiming IC is a horrible idea in the case that the real one ends up being drawn out.

[RH9]

Why did the thread explode?

[RH9]

Can somebody give a quick recap?

[RH9]

Voyc hasn't said anything yet.

[RH9]

Looks like we're still stuck with only datsi's content to work from.

[RH9]

Honestly your townread on me a little earlier gave me bad vibes like you were trying to buddy up to survive

Cool.
@Kerset VC please

[RH9]

Should I be voting M&M?

[RH9]

Andante, be careful of the interactions police.

[RH9]

They will probably use anybody who didn't dislike M&M as part of their '

amazing

' and '

totally

not scummy' PoE.

[RH9]

Should I be voting M&M?

Why would you? You've consistently been calling us firmly town throughout.

I did before in this game because I confused your lol-claim with a deliberate fakeclaim.

[RH9]

That's E-2 I believe. Be wary of a NM quick hammer.

Yeah. N_M. He'll quick hammer anybody. Absolutely anybody.

[RH9]

wasn't ahhhlo already voting MM?

No. He was on Dwlee for half the time.

[RH9]

But he just didn't vote in the way that Kerset prefers.

[RH9]

ahhhlo... I do not TR them, but I think half my SR is just a playstyle clash, cause like, I don't see ahhhlo coming from a town viewpoint on any of this... voting yall for a comment, getting called out on that, flipping to dwlee, back to you cause others voting you.. ehhh feels off

I think that it might be a personality clash.

[RH9]

ahhhlo... I do not TR them, but I think half my SR is just a playstyle clash, cause like, I don't see ahhhlo coming from a town viewpoint on any of this... voting yall for a comment, getting called out on that, flipping to dwlee, back to you cause others voting you.. ehhh feels off

I think that it might be a personality clash.

Like ahhlo seems less reserved than half the playerlist. They wanted to share their thoughts really early on.

[RH9]

But then, you also don't seem secretive.

[RH9]

Just that ahhlo gave me those 'I won't hide a secret from you and you can expect me to be transparent' vibes, really early on.