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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:44 pm

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I don't play scum very often. Hope you don't mind carrying lol.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:46 pm

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Lol, the 3 scum are the 3 people in the middle of the playerlist.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:57 pm

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My main advice...

Don't focus too much on fulfilling the setup too quickly, or even making sure we are in separate games. Obviously avoid getting put in the same game, but don't push too hard too fast, or go out of our way to making a only town swap on Night 1.

Try and just be natural.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:04 pm

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I don't know our partner, imaginality. I also am unfamiliar with implosion, Tanner, and Aristeia. I don't follow Alts, lol.

As for what you should do... Absolutely do what you would have done as town.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:14 pm

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You can lead in with that post. It will be slightly AtE, and you could ask permission for Keep. It might appear scummy to complete objectives quickly and avoid the solving aspect. That's what I want to avoid as our perception.

One possible tactic is to have two scum do a little theater and buddy, then when we attempt to get in the same game, we can swap one of us out and make it appear as though scum wanted to separate the pair. Trying to get in separate games may come off forced, so if theater is easier, this is an option.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:21 am

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No opinion from me. I'll play any mini-game.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 46, Lukewarm wrote:I would not be opposed to Toog coming to the keep with me an Ari. They are the only two people on this player list I have ever played with, so might help us read each other ?
This comment would have town me suspicious of you. I can't join you in keep without a few other people saying it's a good idea and gives me the ability to reach that conclusion as well. Joining now wouldn't look organic enough.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:15 am

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Just react as necessary. If I feel like I would normally be suspicious or trusting, I'll do so. I tend to town hunt instead of scum hunt early, so my head space would be attempting to find someone town I would trust in the game with me.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:44 pm

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Hah...

I'm a 12 year old account that is still a JoaT title. I'm not a hyper poster lol.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:13 pm

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I could join the Keep if encouraged, and then we swap Luke with someone like Darby or numberQ.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:32 pm

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I'm also thinking that whoever ends up at the Gate needs to be the most town read person in the game, so we might need to make a swap there. It might not be beneficial to swap Luke and I or put us both in the same game.

If we go with Baltar's suggestion, I'd probably swap Ari with numbers and make Ari the IC. Then we WIFOM Ari into deciding if they were right about me being scum or if it's Darby. Then you get numberQ in the Keep who might be a hard sell to get votes anyways.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:32 pm

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Just thinking out loud. I vomit what's on my mind.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #12) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:23 pm

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Ignoring people is kind of my meta. I live in my own head space when I play, and it helps me keep distance and seem uninformed (I like to think). I generally just spew my thoughts, and then go back to real life lol. I'm not a keyboard warrior when it comes to Mafia, I usually on check the thread once, maybe twice a day.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:18 am

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I might make a post about how bored I'm getting and plop myself somewhere.
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I were to do this, where should I place myself, Keep, Gate, or Wall?

I get bored easily. I could probably get away with it at this point too.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:39 pm

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Swapping two of us might cause some fuckery. But really, what we need to do is get someone other than Tanner or VPB as IC is my guess. Darby is probably going to get replaced and who knows who that is going to be.
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Post Post #70 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:40 pm

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Swapping me with Luke would be hilarious though.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:12 pm

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We can do that also. If we don't mess with the Gate, Baltar might need to be the IC (assuming everyone joins where we think they will(.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:15 pm

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I think most people will assume two scum at the Wall though, and swapping me with Luke will throw the Keep away, but probably make the Wall easily winnable.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:18 pm

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Actually, the Wall is already favored. We may not want to mess with it at all actually.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:19 pm

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Swapping between Gate and Keep will cause a lot more people to question their reads.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #20) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:26 am

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I don't think there is any easy choice. Making a swap from the Wall makes me look worse, unless we are swapping it to the Gate for IC purposes.

If the Keep doesn't make a change, it would show that scum is happy with the status quo, and it might cause reads to be questioned. But if you are worried about how town read implosion is, maybe just swap implosion with Tanner for maximum wifom, or with Baltar for a more questionable outcome.

Swap Darby to Gate with Tanner, make Darby the IC. Darby slot probably wouldn't make a good IC regardless whether replaced or not. But then we might lose the Keep.

Swapping Luke and imaginality might raise enough eyebrows to change reads.

I really don't know the right answer.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:28 am

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Why don't you guys make the swap that increase our chances best in two games with little regard to the third game?
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Post Post #92 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:29 am

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What I like about this game is that one scum can't carry the team. We have to each do some work.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 am

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Since I'm already in the more favorable game, you guys make the choice that benefits us most.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #24) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:57 am

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Fwiw, I think those moves lose us the game, though maybe I'm just paranoid. If implosion is as town read as you guys suggest, we turn each game into a 50/50, but by making Tanner the IC, who has already shown some suspicion on both imaginality and myself (and maybe Luke as well), that might seal the game.

Baltar probably makes a better IC, I think.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:42 am

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I continue to think you two make the actions the best you see fit. I just get a bad gut vibe from the current night actions. You know, those Han Solo moments ("I got a bad feeling about this.")
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Post Post #137 (isolation #26) » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:25 am

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How was your Christmas's?

I've already forgotten what I should be preparing for going into the Day lol.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #27) » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:58 am

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I'll be pushing for other games to resolve first (whether that happens or not doesn't matter) so that I can have more associatives to work with.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:50 pm

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numberQ is pretty much sold on me scum, but doesn't want to out and out say it without implosion's blessing I think.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:17 am

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Yeah, I have some seriously bad sinus congestion going on. I haven't been able to breathe out my nose for two days, my fever is broke from earlier, but I have such an intense sinus headache I'm certain I might have an infection at this point.

I have been immune compromised since my mid 20s after losing both my spleen and large intestine, so everything hits me hard.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:20 am

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I'm going to an Urgent Care later. Thankfully I work from home right now, but winters always hit me hard
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Post Post #164 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:55 am

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So...

I have severe sinusitis and mild pneumonia. I have a couple medications to take for both.

I'm officially requesting replacement in all my commitments.
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