open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Mare]

I town.

[Mare]

[Mare]

You could probably lim the first three names and hit scum so remember this advanced strategy if we’re flailing EOD.

[Mare]

IV why do you seem self-conscious about your number.

[Mare]

i just picked a number that I thought was under picked

don’t think many people have picked 10 if not ever in the games I saw

Dunno this just sounds weirdly vulnerable compared to your posts so far.

Shrug.

[Mare]

Also, FWIW I’m of the opinion that scum are almost always going to try for a high or middling number. The benefit of WIFOM exists but it seems useless when you can just get caught by the PRs you’re handing over to town.

[Mare]

VOTE: IV

[Mare]

i just picked a number that I thought was under picked

don’t think many people have picked 10 if not ever in the games I saw

Dunno this just sounds weirdly vulnerable compared to your posts so far.

Shrug.

well everyone was talking about their numbers and picks and shit and I wanted to jump into the discussion

for example, I thought it was unlikely scum chose both 8 and 9, but knowing SS always chooses 9 I may need to rethink this thought a little

pedit: skitter dw I’m obvtown

I don’t... really think this a real passing thought you had.

[Mare]

It’s just one of those awkward sounding things that feels like you’re making up thoughts to tell us.

[Mare]

Not really thrilled with skitter's start. I instinctively did not like the statements about catboi and IV, and checked it against several games but it doesn't line up with any she's played with me as either alignment.

VOTE: Mare

Meh.

Slipped your alt and now you’re slipping your alignment. Better get that checked out.

[Mare]

mare why do u think that faker post was scummy?

I don’t.

I wanted to add something like *condescending movie-like face pat* or something but that felt too weird.

[Mare]

It’s just one of those awkward sounding things that feels like you’re making up thoughts to tell us.

ok well I don’t really know how to respond to something like this

let me know if you think of something more specific

I mean, if you want me to nail down the exact, “rethink this thought” is strange.

[Mare]

Amd why mare?

I just woke up and decided my vote wasn't doing much. I did not think 78 was a real process.

I believe I answered your other question already in a response to Datisi.

If anything I think my point stands more given the spat of energetic posting IV made following.

[Mare]

If anything I think my point stands more given the spat of energetic posting IV made following.

The few games I have seen of IV (9:12 and a few specced) lead me to lean that towards both his initial statements and the followups being very NAI.

Normally I don't like to go out of my way to say this, but you seem to be want me to reassess and engage directly with the attack in a substantive way, so I will humor you.

I’m rarely in a mood to play in a more... direct way rather than fleeting thoughts, but I am this game, so it felt important to press down on something for once.

That being said, IV made a post about what scum would subconsciously do rather than just basic “scum doesn’t do this because it looks bad” which is something that appeals to me and I think less likely to come from scum.

(In an effort not to clutter as much myself, @IV, the spewing wasn’t clutter.)

UNVOTE:

[Mare]

Also, given the meme/fun numbers of the last set’s iteration and this one, scum team’s probably taking it seriously/coordinating what they do together more than an average team might.

[Mare]

My new wack theory is midway/flow are scum together, midway came into the game agreeing with a very specific thought because it was on his mind because scum did in fact pick a number to sabotage a townie and look a little better/out of the spotlight.

[Mare]

VOTE: flow trap

[Mare]

I don’t... really think this a real passing thought you had.

Why not

Already explained.

[Mare]

VOTE: sleepless assassin

Why this of all the options.

[Mare]

VOTE: sleepless assassin

Why this of all the options.

They haven't made any towny posts

You could probably lim the first three names and hit scum so remember this advanced strategy if we’re flailing EOD.

Brilliant strategy from 4th place

Sure is.

[Mare]

Mare, I have spoken in several different games of my intentionality in interacting with you to either shut you out of the game or to stay out of your way. It should be obvious that I intend to do neither this game.

However, in previous iterations (ex. Slaughter Hour) your response has been to be (rightfully) extremely skeptical of my intentions and to steer clear as much as possible. Your only real post about me that game came to warn off someone townreading me for tilt, and you only quoted someone else rather than added any commentary of your own.

I don't see the same skepticism of my intent here. I am very happy voting you.

I don’t have a reason to be skeptical yet and I’m not going to waste my energy on it until you do something worth skepticism. There are other people who are currently worth it and you’re not.

[Mare]

If you want me to do the little song and dance I do going oh, you’re so stupid, nice try reading me and failing again, I’m... really not interested in acting like that this game.

[Mare]

I don’t have a reason to be skeptical yet and I’m not going to waste my energy on it until you do something worth skepticism. There are other people who are currently worth it and you’re not.

Weird, considering I've exploited the assumption of good will before and you've correctly adapted to it before.

Responding to your latest post, I am critiquing your

leaning into

the dance rather than cautiously away.

I don't really want to match your tone here, and I don't think it's NAI, but I think going out of your way across multiple posts to suggest I am not worth effort is disappointing.

I mean, I wanted to push a point I felt was important at the time. It didn’t really matter the past treatment or the weird distance in games.

You’re not worth the effort of a scumread currently, which... don’t really think is worth disappointment. Of interacting/as a whole you are or else I wouldn’t attempt to interact with you. I thought that was clear but it probably wasn’t, apologies.

[Mare]

I don’t have a reason to be skeptical yet and I’m not going to waste my energy on it until you do something worth skepticism. There are other people who are currently worth it and you’re not.

Weird, considering I've exploited the assumption of good will before and you've correctly adapted to it before.

Responding to your latest post, I am critiquing your

leaning into

the dance rather than cautiously away.

I don't really want to match your tone here, and I don't think it's NAI, but I think going out of your way across multiple posts to suggest I am not worth effort is disappointing.

I mean, I wanted to push a point I felt was important at the time. It didn’t really matter the past treatment or the weird distance in games.

You’re not worth the effort of a scumread currently, which... don’t really think is worth disappointment. Of interacting/as a whole you are or else I wouldn’t attempt to interact with you. I thought that was clear but it probably wasn’t, apologies.

To clarify a bit, because I feel bad about the implications I left: it’s frustrating to feel like there are expectations of play you’re not allowed to break, but yeah.

[Mare]

VOTE: midwaybear

;?

[Mare]

How is it townie.

[Mare]

Flow’s been doing memey/not really serious posting for the majority of the game so far so I don’t think a contradiction that falls into that same vein does a lot for me. Doesn’t feel towny in the context of all posts.

[Mare]

Jesus.

[Mare]

@Faker: To not drag out a conversation that will get mired in meta and make us look like two people standing around some medieval table doing royal mindgames, I don’t think the foundation’s existence is so important that it must always play out as such.

[Mare]

Hard disagree on Cakez. Felt pretty insubstantial so far.

[Mare]

700 and counting posts. (Image of me in pain here.)

~

I'm not ~vibing~ with the hyperposting but at least a lot of it is content and not just pure fluff. Going to just go along with what everyone else is saying about Andante, town for now, nothing egregious and it seems... difficult I think for someone on day one to be able to churn out that amount of Stuff. Will judge it later down the road but sliding it a pass for now. Same for IV.

On the other hand, hate flow trap's iso, the things that are in there can't justify the amount of nonsense.

I am holding out my hands trying to townblock with people who will not post 1123123 times a day. Any offers will be taken.

[Mare]

Delusional Ingrid stans projecting their horse-isms onto the world.

[Mare]

@Datisi: I think the issue with your response to NSG is that... it felt a little vulnerable to ask if it was weird and you admitted to wanting to shut down someone saying “oh you agree you’re scum”. In the immediate moment you didn’t seem to care about the things NSG said about you as vague as they were and instead switched it around to what you thought of her. And when it’s a townread and there’s nothing given to her points it... looks very strange.

[Mare]

Reconciliation can be a more subtle type of defense basically rather than the overt “why”, dunno... Reading back I guess I would have expected a different kind of engagement on the points.

[Mare]

VOTE: SirCakez

Getting the same feelings as I did in Final Fantasy.

[Mare]

you admitted to wanting to shut down someone saying “oh you agree you’re scum”.

yes? to me the "oh, so you agree you're scum?" is a kindergarden-level gotcha that i would've guessed someone like iv would love to say because he thinks he's funny and i wanted to not waste time there.

why should i ~care~ about things nsg said about me? like, i know she's wrong on my alignment, i'm not gonna be wasting time trying to convince her she's wrong there because i do think i'll be able to show it as the game goes on, but i *will* use the opportunity to try to read her.

@iv, if i'm wrong, i'll figure it out. i wanna see her response.

I guess the vulnerability in that is not wanting to deal with it at all and stomping it out, I guess I get it though.

And if you wanted to read her... it felt like a relatively neutral springboard to use? Despite the scumread on you she was mild and I think it could’ve been good discussion to figure out where she was coming from and thus motivation and thus alignment, etc.

[Mare]

Is that not the right use of the word. ._.

[Mare]

No, that is the correct phrase and usage, I was just commenting that before you used a different phrase instead that made your alts easily identifiable.

The joke is all of my alts are easily identifiable. And I... actually have no idea what else I would have said.

And if you wanted to read her... it felt like a relatively neutral springboard to use? Despite the scumread on you she was mild and I think it could’ve been good discussion to figure out where she was coming from and thus motivation and thus alignment, etc.

i didn't specifically set out to have a read on nsg, i just saw something that made sense to me from town!nsg's point of view, and considering it's relatively early and i'm currently prioritizing quantity over quality, it felt fine. also it was like 1am.

do you find me scummy for it? is this conversation helping you read me?

Huh. To me, if someone comes out of the gate thinking I’m scum on entrance I think I’d personally want to know why like... immediately. And then discern from there.

I think it’s a little strange. Not the most but a little, but yes this conversation is helping me more than just reading everyone else’s conversation.

[Mare]

LOOK.

When I was growing up I lived in a super rural place and we didn’t have a pool but there was a lake and the neighbor kids made a diving board out of some loose planks. One of them jumped onto a catfish and had to be hospitalized.

[Mare]

And clearly this was not a DIVING BOARD that we called it but a jumping one.

[Mare]

Huh. To me, if someone comes out of the gate thinking I’m scum on entrance I think I’d personally want to know why like... immediately. And then discern from there.

if i had thought the scumread is uncalled for, i'd have called her out and demanded explanation.

what is this conversation telling you?

That I think your way of thinking is different to mine, I find it strange, and that I’m going to read closer into you as the game goes but for right now it’s *enough*.

[Mare]

That’s a lot of words to spare for everything but your vote.

Hmm.

[Mare]

People higher up in draft more likely to be scum.

[Mare]

You're just jealous cause you were bottom of the draft

I literally spent the entirety of the last PYP game I played correctly calling the top drafter scum

Didn’t stop me from killing you. :^)

[Mare]

Scum want power roles and to deny town power roles, I said this before but the cost of wifom and picking a lower number sucks when every townie is a PR catching you because you picked something bad or rolled goon.

[Mare]

Going through previous runs slowly on mobile, looks like the first two runs of this setup scum were in the top of draft. Lol.

I picked top last time as scum, etc.

Pretty sure it’s a stable pattern and to be expected that at least one will try to grab something good.

[Mare]

so why am I the only low number we feel like tunneling/calling out?

I mean all of the top people so far have had suspicion, so, you’re not.

[Mare]

And given experience I’d argue the top number is scum, so impasse.

[Mare]

Also for what it’s worth I think the only meaningful duplication to look at is Pooky and Datisi because I can imagine a funny world where they pick that as scum together to guarantee middling positions.

[Mare]

except if a townie picked 1 too, then we'd be completely fucked. while choosing multitasking no less.

pedit: @mare

Oh, would it resolve you at the bottom?

[Mare]

also shouldnt we just leave all the low number choices alone cuz scum have to shoot there to kill our PRs no?

Yup.

[Mare]

Another observation is Andante immediately jumped on the numbers when used against her to swing at everyone else/deflect.

[Mare]

Shocking.

[Mare]

VOTE: skitter

Hi everyone. I pretty much agree with Datisi’s thoughts on flow trap not being w/w with SS. It is more likely than not that scum has someone who was aware of SS pattern, but not guaranteed. Having meta numbers seems a little broken lol

this post kinda bothers me tonally. it feels too agreeable (ok and not just because they said I agree with Datisi)

VOTE: midwaybear

I am not saying we should not do the raids. I am saying we should let the entire game check in first.

VOTE: mirio
This post gives me tonally gross vibes

Same exact vibe which made me instantly suspect him in a previous game. Same exact slow catching up with eh takes as the previous game. Mediocre draft placement.

SirScumz strikes again.

[Mare]

Like beyond being in "catch-up mode" he literally just feels like he's posting the same kind of content in catch-up mode. It's bad!

[Mare]

Him being slow catching up isn't a tell

Like

beyond being in "catch-up mode"

he literally just feels like he's posting the same kind of content in catch-up mode. It's bad!

In case I must reiterate given the quotes: my issue is not with him catching-up.

It is with him making the same kind of read/post on someone as he did as scum.

[Mare]

I dislike people who do catch-ups but I know for some people they're necessary, cool. SirCakez probably does it as both alignments but that's not really the comparison I'm trying to draw here.

[Mare]

In case I must reiterate given the quotes: my issue is not with him catching-up. It is with him making the same kind of read/post on someone as he did as scum.

counterpoint: slaugherhouse
literally nai

How is it NAI.

[Mare]

"I think this post is tonally gross!" Votes.

"This post bothers me tonally!" Votes.

[Mare]

Same shit mildly different language.

[Mare]

Don't care, was right last time and I feel the same about him so far, gonna stick with my vote.

[Mare]

Another observation is Andante immediately jumped on the numbers when used against her to swing at everyone else/deflect.

>.>
you're feeling a bit off tbh

Want to slapfight me so you can figure it out sooner rather than later that I'm not off?

[Mare]

Okay, my counterpoint:

I viscerally felt that SirCakez was scum from the moment he began posting in a previous game. I cop checked him N1 and he was elimmed the next day.

Why should I ignore it when I get the same exact feeling from his posts here? Should I not immediately press on something familiar when I am familiar with it as scum?

[Mare]

And, let me say, once more.

I really don't give a fuck if he's catching up. People do it. I dislike it. Whatever.

I dislike what he's saying.

[Mare]

Okay, my counterpoint:

I viscerally felt that SirCakez was scum from the moment he began posting in a previous game. I cop checked him N1 and he was elimmed the next day.

Why should I ignore it when I get the same exact feeling from his posts here? Should I not immediately press on something familiar when I am familiar with it as scum?

i mean your visceral feeling is: a) not something you brought up as part of any of this earlier in this convo b) not something that i feel/vibe/have any opinion on
so it's just like ok?

and my response is basically, again, you're scumreading him for something that's nai, and i'm a little surprised that you're not seeing why i think it's nai

I don't believe the things he's saying are NAI. To say you dislike/like something, to invoke tone, means you are providing your opinions on someone. And that's AI.

[Mare]

To say "I dislike this, I find it weird," to place a vote because of that? How is that NAI?

[Mare]

Like you want to be ? but you're sitting here saying that he hasn't done anything AI which is patently false soooo.

[Mare]

VOTE: Skitter30

[Mare]

The wording of it?

"This post"/"this post".

Distancing himself from his thoughts/things he's saying when he's immediately saying it.

[Mare]

Like you want to be ? but you're sitting here saying that he hasn't done anything AI which is patently false soooo.

that's not what i said, i said the things you're pushing him for are nai
(incidentally i also don't think he's done anything ai but i also haven't said that)

Kind of but "the stuff you're voting him for is a nulltell and it's a bad case" is different from "noo he's so townie you're wrong"

fair enuf!
and yeah i wouldn't really argue that he's townie (or scummy) here,

so much as he's done nothing ai

and pushing him is kinda ? to me

Nope! You said the things he's done aren't AI!

[Mare]

Like you want to be ? but you're sitting here saying that he hasn't done anything AI which is patently false soooo.

that's not what i said, i said the things you're pushing him for are nai
(incidentally i also don't think he's done anything ai but i also haven't said that)

Kind of but "the stuff you're voting him for is a nulltell and it's a bad case" is different from "noo he's so townie you're wrong"

fair enuf!
and yeah i wouldn't really argue that he's townie (or scummy) here,

so much as he's done nothing ai

and pushing him is kinda ? to me

Nope! You said the things he's done aren't AI!

[Mare]

Nope, not born out of nothing.

[Mare]

Still sticking by my read, don't care about the other posts in town games. Way he worded it was the same.

Distancing from his own ideas.

[Mare]

Thumbs up!

[Mare]

I think Mare is coming off worse here mostly because I don't get why she's this up in arms over disagreement on a read ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because it's going to turn out again like the last game where my thoughts on things are weird, until there is basis in mechanical action, etc etc. It's frustrating and unfun when I try to play like this again and again and I am consistently felt out as weird despite trying to apply myself to the game in a different way.

So, fuck it, doubling down on the stuff that I think is right.

[Mare]

mare are you ok?

Shrug.

Gonna leave for now.

[Mare]

VOTE: Mare

[Mare]

ok i hope things get better soon <3
maybe let's try this again tomorrow

UNVOTE:

Thoughts on mare?

--
Also i'm kinda meh on pooky but not sure its ai for him

Lets wagon mare!

[Mare]

Skitter's opportunistic scum. Second place in draft too.

Cakez is OMGUSing me for a bad push when he's reading Pooky the same way.

[Mare]

I wanna vote Mare out solely for selfing, after going on about how we hate when people are catching up...like, pooky is scum, but idk what mare is doing?? saving pooky?

This can be scum too for egregiously misrepresenting my posts in which I have repeatedly expressed that I dislike catch-ups on a personal level, but was voting Cakez for content.

[Mare]

Ok i do kinda object to that characterization tho ...

Don't care. You went from "take this up tomorrow" to "okay wagon time" without blinking.

[Mare]

And it's with an upswing of more people saying they want to kill me, so just go ahead and vote me, and when I flip town my grave will be a fucking arrow pointed at you.

Go on.

[Mare]

The jealousy is palpable.

[Mare]

UNVOTE:

Don’t know if I’m in the headspace yet to play without throwing a fit at the first roadblock but if I can tonight I’ll be around, if not tomorrow.

[Mare]

Midway, IV town.

Andante probably town for the level of sporadic jumping around? But so quick to jump on anything and push it without a sense of continuity beyond a few posts. Sleepless probably town.

Cakez still scum beyond just tonal things but doing not a lot but being agreeable.

Probably a scum in skitter/Datisi/catboi.

Rest is in null-world right now.

I'm playing Sona in an ARAM. Life is good.

[Mare]

I would classify that as an epic win.

[Mare]

I kind of got over being voted because I remembered my early reads are good and I am smart and my eyes were open but I appreciate the moving of it.

[Mare]

So if you want my GUT READ on a team it's like Andante/Cakez/Cat.

[Mare]

My eyes were open to the crimes.

~

There've been things that Midway's said that I looked and thought, yeah, I've said/thought something like this before as town. What's the bad parts about him?

[Mare]

My eyes were open to the crimes.

~

There've been things that Midway's said that I looked and thought, yeah, I've said/thought something like this before as town. What's the bad parts about him?

this seems like something a buddy writes to try to bail out another buddy

How exactly are my efforts here attempting to bail out MWB, exactly?

[Mare]

you're basically saying like "what's the case" which is such a typical scum buddy thing to post
defending them by implying there's no reason to vote them

Okay, so what's the impetus for me asking a question and then just never going back/caring about the followup or like... actually offering the thoughts that I thought MWB said that were towny? And just making a throwaway comment without the follow through. Which would kind of... be important to saving him?

[Mare]

Not feeling this game or much of anything, will be around a bit because deadline and stuff.

[Mare]

I’ll acquiesce to being wagoned tomorrow as long as I can neighborize someone and vibe a bit with them first.

[Mare]

Shrug emoji.

[Mare]

PTs are always more fun for me anyways, might as well put myself and ask who would want to hang out in a PT, I can compose a few thoughts and then if I die I die.

[Mare]

[Mare]

Still don’t understand why...

[Mare]

VOTE: Cakez[/b]

Disliked the “nobody bit” retort to me because like yes no one did but then it also is like... I feel like me not following up with the initial question I had about MWB neutered any attempt to save him in the first place and just leaves an awkward associative hanging out there without any payout.

[Mare]

VOTE: Cakez

[Mare]

VOTE: Cakez[/b]

Disliked the “nobody bit” retort to me because like yes no one did but then it also is like... I feel like me not following up with the initial question I had about MWB neutered any attempt to save him in the first place and just leaves an awkward associative hanging out there without any payout.

This is so overjustified and gross gosh

...how is it overjustified, exactly, or “gross”.

[Mare]

Like you’re saying I tried to deflect from a partner.

I’m saying the way I approached trying to do so and then, subsequently, did not kind of... undermines your entire point.

[Mare]

Why do you feel the need to explain your vote on me again when you've literally spent most of this game pushing me? It's like no one here is thinking you're suddenly townreading me

Because I wanted to explain something you posted recently that didn’t make sense to me, and why, and it was best accompanied with the vote.

[Mare]

Like I still don’t fundamentally get why MWB is the inevitable ending point for the day and it goes against what I saw of him previously. So I don’t want it and I find it weird that you jump straight to tying me to him.

[Mare]

Without considering how... like, genuinely terrible that would look on a flip.

[Mare]

Okay, so no one bit on me trying to save my buddy. What’s the scum motivation I have for not following up at all with it, not intervening, not changing to bus, like...

Like I just say “why” do nothing he dies and then there’s this awkward beat there in an ISO that has already left me POE’d...?

[Mare]

PT Fun.

[Mare]

I town.

[Mare]

Spoiler:

Ydrasse.

[Mare]

@S_S: Did you miss when you referenced the last game and I quoted you saying I still killed you despite correctly nailing me as scum? ._.

[Mare]

I picked high to try and get neighborizer specifically especially after last game when everyone wanted it.

[Mare]

I picked high to try and get neighborizer specifically especially after last game when everyone wanted it.

Wouldn't that be a reason not to get it, because it increases the chance of PR's being missed?

Huh?

I tried to pick high like being the first or second pick.

[Mare]

Kind of very exhausted what is happening?

[Mare]

._.

[Mare]

Sorry I used the energy I would use for mafiaon yelling about my Keague of Legends fanfic and now I am dying and I will vote tomorrow since I was technically already supposed to be sleeping >_>

[Mare]

Noooooo

[Mare]

VOTE: Sleepless

^_^

[Mare]

[Mare]

[Mare]

I would follow up for appearances; as someone who is keenly aware of absolutely everything I do as scum I don’t just leave something floating out there as apparent as that when my partner is going to flip. I’m too selfish to sink myself for the sake of a teammate.

Like my God that’s basic scum play.

[Mare]

VOTE: Cakez

[Mare]

Do you genuinely think up until any point that there was a wagon on Cakez that would get him limmed.

[Mare]

Not limp wristed ...

[Mare]

Do you genuinely think up until any point that there was a wagon on Cakez that would get him limmed.

I haven't read anything recent, so who knows

That was only three votes total on Cakez, I believe.

[Mare]

I’m content with my vote.

[Mare]

: ?

[Mare]

Feels like you were leaning into paranoia to try and have continuation from previous games and now you’ve lost the dynamic you were counting on you’re dropping it.

[Mare]

Who is that talking to

Clearly Catboi as it came after his post.

[Mare]

Ok but that doesn't make any sense if you think I'm the scum in the interaction

*Head pat.*

[Mare]

Looking for neighborhood partner who will teach me how Mafiascum chess works.

[Mare]

I’ve played one chess game in like the past year.

[Mare]

Holy hell.

[Mare]

From out of left field.

[Mare]

Then vote Cakez.

[Mare]

Think about how funny it’s be for him to flip scum after he spent all day trying to replicate paranoia and seeing the scumminess just to drop it the second the person propping it up dips.

[Mare]

Because I literally can’t play logically no matter how hard I try and I have to let whatever my subconscious brews speak out despite having zero real evidence but also I am psychic so it’s Cakez.

p-edit: I thought I wouldn’t even have to do anything to get you on my side. :c

[Mare]

Mena I missed you so much you’re so cool I won’t pocket you you’re like my favorite player your avatar is looking cute today vote Cakez with meeeeee? *twirls* <3 <3

[Mare]

Now I’m gonna guilt trip you for forgetting to reply to me instead!

[Mare]

Mena I missed you so much you’re so cool I won’t pocket you you’re like my favorite player your avatar is looking cute today vote Cakez with meeeeee? *twirls* <3 <3

I rescind my earlier read, lock mafia

Not my fault he’s pocketable.

[Mare]

[Mare]

Like you did on Gamma. :<

[Mare]

:<<<<<<<<<

[Mare]

!!!!

[Mare]

NSG do you like neighborhoods?

[Mare]

Speaking my truth.

[Mare]

VOTE: flow trap

[Mare]

I was walking to the break room to get ibuprofen and I had a vision that the scum team was skitter/Faker/Sleepless.The reason I needed ibuprofen was because it inhibits the headaches that my psychic abilities create.

VOTE: Sleepless

[Mare]

Flow and Sleepless feel like the functionally same elim so I prefer Sleepless who has said stuff recently that can be read posthumously and be somewhat meaningfully.

[Mare]

Sleepless.

[Mare]

Flow and Sleepless feel like the functionally same elim so I prefer Sleepless who has said stuff recently that can be read posthumously and be somewhat meaningfully.

the 2 are in no way the same.... sleepless is actually scummy, flow just isn't talking

They are in fact the same.

[Mare]

Also I don’t actually think this has a great chance of flipping scum and would still prefer Cakez but c’est la vie.

[Mare]

Also I don’t actually think this has a great chance of flipping scum and would still prefer Cakez but c’est la vie.

Did I already get u to walk me through the why bit on cakez!scum?

No but you’re leaving already soOOoooOoo.

[Mare]

Flow and Sleepless feel like the functionally same elim so I prefer Sleepless who has said stuff recently that can be read posthumously and be somewhat meaningfully.

Also I don’t actually think this has a great chance of flipping scum and would still prefer Cakez but c’est la vie.

What does the stuff he's said actually matter if you think his chances of flipping scum aren't great?

Because it has some like ~weight~ to it if he’s town and if flow flips town it’s like okay waste of info because it’s fluffy stuff that knows what it is.

Also think that people have weighed in more (?) on Sleepless but that’s a feeling. Maybe more people have had slap fights over SA.

[Mare]

I will powerlim you both if Sleepless flips scum per my vision esrlier.

But for now I have Swedish Fish.

[Mare]

Lying about dreams is easy towncred tbh. Advanced strategy.

[Mare]

VOTE: Flow

[Mare]

only a true weirdo fakeposts about mafia game dreams as scum

Lying about dreams is easy towncred tbh. Advanced strategy.

I don't see the contradiction

[Mare]

Dream team is town.

[Mare]

VOTE: Sleepless

[Mare]

Can we just make Andante claim and move on the noise ratio is fucking atrocious in here and her posts are too ... much to process.

~

I haven’t thought about this game much ‘cause of dance game.

[Mare]

Also I’m a little ? right now at the Datisi push.

[Mare]

am i the only one who finds midway's push on me *really* sketchy here? like singling me out of "being lazy" and characterizing my oed play the way he did is, uh. yikes.

Yes because I literally cared less about the vote and did so openly lmao.

[Mare]

Can we just make Andante claim

lmao cause that's a towny idea

You’re one PR in the bucket.

[Mare]

VOTE: catboi
This guy is scum and I bet that's why Faker was killed

Ah, there it is

fuck off I can push you without it being some grudge-related thing you always try to make it out to be

Touchy.

Why’s he scum other than the kill then?

[Mare]

VOTE: catboi
This guy is scum and I bet that's why Faker was killed

Ah, there it is

fuck off I can push you without it being some grudge-related thing you always try to make it out to be

Touchy.

Why’s he scum other than the kill then?

I think the way he maneuvered around the wagons day 1 was scummy now that we have some flips

Okay so where at?

[Mare]

Power.

[Mare]

I don’t really want to go for the Pooky/Mena slot.

Might just vote Flow/Alyssa after a bit.

[Mare]

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[Mare]

It feels physically impossible to care about this game for some reason and also I forgot to neighborize someone so I’m in anti-fun mode.

[Mare]

VOTE: SirCakez

This never changed so whatever happens my vote’s here stare at it a lot if I get voted out please.

[Mare]

Yeah I thought there was more time and I was lazy and didn’t submit it so.

Can do it tonight if I live if not shrug.

edit: Because I had all of my focus into a scumgame that left me not even checking anything else and by the point I am so distanced from a game I’d rather do other things, thought we had more time, woke up and didn’t and shrugged like “whoops”.

[Mare]

I have like exactly one or two stances this game anyways so it’s not like people are missing out on a riveting solve from me.

[Mare]

VOTE: Mare

Okay let’s put your money where your mouth is.

People gave me cred. I didn’t ask for it.

You’re sitting in the 2nd place freaking out over me forgetting something.

I’m willing to die and have my corpse stare you in the face when it flips town neighborizer, and have the rest of the town stare you down for these posts.

(:

[Mare]

Like do you genuinely think I’m a moron who wouldn’t just use my ability and like... you know... do the thing I’m good at and just play in a neighborhood.

There’s no fucking way you believe this lol.

[Mare]

“Sorry I need you to have a perfect memory about stuff otherwise it doesn’t make sense to me and die.”

Like fuck off.

[Mare]

I don’t really think this is scum!Mena.

[Mare]

The same can be said about... pretty much every claim here given the odds of it being town or scum.

VOTE: Cakez

[Mare]

Cakez wagon Cakez wagon Cakez wagon.

[Mare]

I'm like always "around" but choose not to post often.

[Mare]

Cakez wagon Cakez wagon Cakez wagon.

you have a reason? or is it just cause it's funny?

I've been trying to kill Cakez literally all game.

[Mare]

I'm like always "around" but choose not to post often.

fun, you didn't want to jump in when dats/ss were roasting me for claiming? you're more than welcome to jump into stuff like that...

Why would I care.

[Mare]

Cakez wagon Cakez wagon Cakez wagon.

you have a reason? or is it just cause it's funny?

I've been trying to kill Cakez literally all game.

I know, and one of your early reasonings was like "it's funny" or something, so I was just wondering if there's actually something there that you sr, and like a reason we should get cake

Bad vibes, bad early tone, floating around and not doing a lot.

Pot to kettle on the last point but dude's mafia.

[Mare]

You'll have a good read eventually. *Pat pat.*

[Mare]

Or you'll flip scum but that's down the road.

[Mare]

Andante’s not worth really questioning. If she’s still alive in a few days just lim her without thinking about it.

I still think Cakez flips scum.

Also given Pooky’s... departure (yes I’ve been burned by this logic before and it sucks) and Mena being busy like all the time now I think the scumreads there are kind of just the lazy low content ones.

[Mare]

My yolo-whatever solve is something stupid like skitter/Andante/Cakez all doing a ring of protection around one another alleviating pressure.

[Mare]

Mare who do you want a wagon on

Cakez

[Mare]

He’s V/LA so it won’t bring a lot reactionwise probably but it’s more like just kill him and move on.

[Mare]

My yolo-whatever solve is something stupid like skitter/Andante/Cakez all doing a ring of protection around one another alleviating pressure.

that solve??? no WAY skitter is maf, possibly cakez, but skitter isn't

+10 magic resistance.

[Mare]

I dont think the full scumteam is in you, nsg, catboi, cakez
And the game is still kinda and dead and still without wagons ... makes me think scum are either v complacenr or under the radar

Feel better andante <3

Pedit that wasnt abt u, ur one of the reads i'm *not* questioning rn

Thanks <3
lol ok cool! I was like, FAM...
I think scum is very under the radar, this entire day 2 has been like me dats ss and you talking, others poke their head in probably just to avoid prod timer, then dissapear, thus I've been trying to get dats/ss to like actually work with me for a second on sorting half the table

I really do think cakez town

and if you = alyssa
alyssa,nsg,cat... I probably wouldn't disagree with a single one of them being maf, but I'm not too sure on that being the team lol

I need to read midwaybear, I have no notes there, my notes say I sr nsg and mare for posts like 700-800... long ago. these are old notes lol

My yolo-whatever solve is something stupid like skitter/Andante/Cakez all doing a ring of protection around one another alleviating pressure.

that solve??? no WAY skitter is maf,

possibly cakez,

but skitter isn't

Lmao.

[Mare]

You have little internal consistency in the way you think about things and jump from one statement to another.

[Mare]

I read Cakez as faking most of his anger/paranoia tbh.

[Mare]

You have little internal consistency in the way you think about things and jump from one statement to another.

uhh there's plenty of consistency, I just don't say exactly every thought lol

Thank goodness we’re mind readers.

[Mare]

V/LA few days sick.

[Mare]

VOTE: Northsidegal

SHrug and throwing up of hands to keep game moving.

[Mare]

UNVOTE:

Will vote whatever wagon whenever unless the malaise around my brain lets up beforehand.

[Mare]

Zzz.

VOTE: Mare

Back to bed.

[Mare]

Sorry I am so fucking out of it and was thinking if I was in the right account

VOTE: Midwaybear

[Mare]

Who wants the neighborhood.

[Mare]

I won't forget this time I promise. ;-;