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[Flea The Magician]

*waves*

VOTE: MegAzumaril
Gengar is better.

[Flea The Magician]

@Titus: I'm pleased to see you're town this game
Please don't spend the entire game trying to figure out the same about me, so we can work together.

Kthx.

VOTE: House

[Flea The Magician]

We should NOT claim any submitted preferences

We absolutely should.

The mafia might lie about theirs, but they are only 3/10 of the players. They can't prevent 10/13 players from telling the truth.

If we have players truthfully claim their alignment preference (without claiming PR/Vanilla preference), then we can narrow down the gamestate.

For instance, if we have 12/13 or so claim they submitted town preference, then that means that everyone who submitted scum preference probably got it and some of them lied.

In contrast, if we have 6/13 or so claim they submitted mafia preference, then that means that everyone who submitted town preference probably got it.

There's zero downsides to this. It genuinely can POE the game on D1.

Subject to WIFOM.
People know I favour a scum roll. I submitted 2 things which were pro for whichever alignment I ended up being, and 1 anti-town thing.
I submitted town preference. I did not submit a pr preference.

[Flea The Magician]

If you want my submissions I submitted Jailkeeper, Informed Townie/Goon, and Miller.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: mastina

Well that was easy.
Mastina knows my scum game, and knows I thrive more on scum because I actually find it easier to make reads as scum. I also have a pretty comprehensive wiki, which miraculously seems to have been forgotten about.

My scum games do such admittedly, but it's no secret I play for fun over form.

I'm also strong mislim bait because of my erratic behaviour and thought patterns.. the PoE seems too convenient to me and the reasoning lacks her usual convictions.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: mastina

Well that was easy.
Mastina knows my scum game, and knows I thrive more on scum because I actually find it easier to make reads as scum. I also have a pretty comprehensive wiki, which miraculously seems to have been forgotten about.

My scum games do such admittedly, but it's no secret I play for fun over form.

I'm also strong mislim bait because of my erratic behaviour and thought patterns.. the PoE seems too convenient to me and the reasoning lacks her usual convictions.

Yeah an easy vote to make as scum.

:BEAK:

How is it an easy vote for scum? It's an easy vote for scum to discredit if anything.

[Flea The Magician]

Well, what reads do you disagree with?

I'm more curious about how my vote is an easy vote to make than being wilfully disected currently.

[Flea The Magician]

Well, what reads do you disagree with?

I'm more curious about how my vote is an easy vote to make than being wilfully disected currently.

You're contesting the PoE off the basis that you're in it and not digressing into why the solve lacks conviction or has potential fallacies to it.

Hence why I prompted you to voice any discontent because I can't tell your alignment based off your current reply other than I disagree with your take on

mastina's

intentions.

VOTE: mastina

Well that was easy.
Mastina knows my scum game, and knows I thrive more on scum because I actually find it easier to make reads as scum. I also have a pretty comprehensive wiki, which miraculously seems to have been forgotten about.

My scum games do such admittedly, but it's no secret I play for fun over form.

I'm also strong mislim bait because of my erratic behaviour and thought patterns.. the PoE seems too convenient to me and the reasoning lacks her usual convictions.

The PoE is irrelevant. She's gone to some lengths to gather meta on people and generate reads.

House I think has stated his town/scum preference before, but I sadly can't remember it and he has no real wiki so I have to keep him in the pool for now until I track it down.

Ditto for Flea; fae might've stated faer preference but I can't remember it.

This is my staging point against this. Mastinas seen me at my best and worst of both alignments, and has no difficulty in reading me. If I can't pocket her, I nk her.
Going back to the post, to me this reads as Me and House may have stated preference, but don't have wiki's to check what we're like.

Go look at my wiki, I'll wait a moment.... Flea The Magician if you need the link...
It's pretty comprehensive. I need to add a couple games and clean up a little but still. There's more than enough there to work with.

Spoiler: Notes

TOWN

PREFERENCE:

mastina

House
Scorpious
Yume
Greeting
Flea the Magician
CheekyTeeky (after much resistance)
ɀefiend

NO ALIGNMENT PREFERENCE:

Taly
Titus
Galron

SCUM

PREFERENCE:

Enchant? (Not sure if serious)

PREFERENCE NOT YET STATED:

MegAzumarill

Same post, ftr. Mine and House's alignment preferences are there.

So sadly, that doesn't narrow the pool down as much as I want, but it still helps as a starting point.

It's a false start imo, and one setting up to secure the usual suspects for elimination, I know House also tends to be limbait.
The PoE is flawed. But hey lets address it based on what we have so far.
I believe this would be considered the equivilent of pissing into the wind.

If I had to go gun to my head, I'd say that in {Yume, Flea, House}, towniest to scummiest it'd be House > Yume > Flea.

This is funny. I made 4 posts, 2 RVS votes, one projecting doubt on the logic that was coming, and my claims.
Yume has 1 post, and it's their claims.
House has several and is being themselves, he's laid back and doesn't seem to be taking this seriously.
So we're left with this.

All 3 scum are in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill, House, Yume, Flea the Magician};
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill have a high chance of being scum;
House is less likely scum;
There's 1-2 scum in {Yume, Flea the Magician};
There's basically a guaranteed scum, 1-2, in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill}.

We have a PoE of 4, early D1, from a mechsolve attempt in a uPick where we don't know if someones lying or not.
Me, who has said from the start this is all subject to wifom and hasn't taken this seriously but gone with it anyway.
Yume the One-Post-Wonder
Azu who I haven't read
CT who seems to be quite into the game and sits just above null with me currently.

I struggle to make reads beyond the snap reads I can be pretty decent with. I'm confident in this one.

[Flea The Magician]

The logic is mechanically sound.

No it absolutely is not.

I would fully openwolf this game and trueclaim because of this thinking.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: Quote Wall

Well, what reads do you disagree with?

I'm more curious about how my vote is an easy vote to make than being wilfully disected currently.

You're contesting the PoE off the basis that you're in it and not digressing into why the solve lacks conviction or has potential fallacies to it.

Hence why I prompted you to voice any discontent because I can't tell your alignment based off your current reply other than I disagree with your take on

mastina's

intentions.

VOTE: mastina

Well that was easy.
Mastina knows my scum game, and knows I thrive more on scum because I actually find it easier to make reads as scum. I also have a pretty comprehensive wiki, which miraculously seems to have been forgotten about.

My scum games do such admittedly, but it's no secret I play for fun over form.

I'm also strong mislim bait because of my erratic behaviour and thought patterns.. the PoE seems too convenient to me and the reasoning lacks her usual convictions.

The PoE is irrelevant. She's gone to some lengths to gather meta on people and generate reads.

House I think has stated his town/scum preference before, but I sadly can't remember it and he has no real wiki so I have to keep him in the pool for now until I track it down.

Ditto for Flea; fae might've stated faer preference but I can't remember it.

This is my staging point against this. Mastinas seen me at my best and worst of both alignments, and has no difficulty in reading me. If I can't pocket her, I nk her.
Going back to the post, to me this reads as Me and House may have stated preference, but don't have wiki's to check what we're like.

Go look at my wiki, I'll wait a moment.... Flea The Magician if you need the link...
It's pretty comprehensive. I need to add a couple games and clean up a little but still. There's more than enough there to work with.

Spoiler: Notes

TOWN

PREFERENCE:

mastina

House
Scorpious
Yume
Greeting
Flea the Magician
CheekyTeeky (after much resistance)
ɀefiend

NO ALIGNMENT PREFERENCE:

Taly
Titus
Galron

SCUM

PREFERENCE:

Enchant? (Not sure if serious)

PREFERENCE NOT YET STATED:

MegAzumarill

Same post, ftr. Mine and House's alignment preferences are there.

So sadly, that doesn't narrow the pool down as much as I want, but it still helps as a starting point.

It's a false start imo, and one setting up to secure the usual suspects for elimination, I know House also tends to be limbait.
The PoE is flawed. But hey lets address it based on what we have so far.
I believe this would be considered the equivilent of pissing into the wind.

If I had to go gun to my head, I'd say that in {Yume, Flea, House}, towniest to scummiest it'd be House > Yume > Flea.

This is funny. I made 4 posts, 2 RVS votes, one projecting doubt on the logic that was coming, and my claims.
Yume has 1 post, and it's their claims.
House has several and is being themselves, he's laid back and doesn't seem to be taking this seriously.
So we're left with this.

All 3 scum are in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill, House, Yume, Flea the Magician};
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill have a high chance of being scum;
House is less likely scum;
There's 1-2 scum in {Yume, Flea the Magician};
There's basically a guaranteed scum, 1-2, in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill}.

We have a PoE of 4, early D1, from a mechsolve attempt in a uPick where we don't know if someones lying or not.
Me, who has said from the start this is all subject to wifom and hasn't taken this seriously but gone with it anyway.
Yume the One-Post-Wonder
Azu who I haven't read
CT who seems to be quite into the game and sits just above null with me currently.

I struggle to make reads beyond the snap reads I can be pretty decent with. I'm confident in this one.

I'm going to be honest this post feels pretty fluffy

You're only giving reasons to doubt

Mastina's

PoE, it's hard to tell how you actually read her people in it or not in it...

And I am weary that you're deflecting from 194

Two things here.
That would infer there's any substance to mastinas reads, there is not. There is mechanical reads subject to wifom which means I disagree with all of them.

I said I struggle to read people D1, beyond any snap reads that I get.

Instead say what you mean and ask for a reads list. To which the answer will "I started refusing those requests a while ago."

[Flea The Magician]

Dangit. I always break it.

[Flea The Magician]

I am loving the Cheeky today, just saying.

Can't remember if there was something I was meant to respond to.

Something something "Wouldn't trueclaim a scum preference but submitting a town preference" dark side.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Enchant

*pokepokepoke* your ISO is emptier than mine.

[Flea The Magician]

Please tell me of I got the pronoun right.

Yes you did ^_^ Have been a bit on the naff side of MH so still playing, just quietly.

speaking of, Dunno house, you tell me

[Flea The Magician]

Someone explain to me how enchant is town

[Flea The Magician]

Someone explain to me how enchant is town

What is scum indicative to you there?

I'd rather find out what people are seeing that I'm not.
There's nothing there TO read, feels like attempting to stay under radar to me.

[Flea The Magician]

Someone explain to me how enchant is town

I feel like Enchant's scumgame is pretty obvious usually. Here they are posting in a carefree way that I assume comes from town them more than scum them.

wilfully ignoring this because I have a good amount of respect for Enchants scum game.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: 1987 was a good year for music.

Literally #1 here when I was born. I was born into the rickroll...

Meg give me some insight on your Mastina read?

[Flea The Magician]

You.

ADHD is a possibility. I'm no doctor. You're just reminding me of someone I used to know.

Now you're just sombody dat i used to know!!

also nah, that energy level isn't adhd indicative. It can be an indicator of MAAAANY things.

ya'll haven't seen us energy burst in a while....

mwahaha

[Flea The Magician]

eugh ya'll gunna make me try and effort... maybe D2.

[Flea The Magician]

large number of prs to compensate for the large chance of many scum prs

Okay, and how this is case here?

Only thing garanted is 2 VTs.

I can't even see where thats mentioned...

[Flea The Magician]

Do I get spicy....

[Flea The Magician]

Design Process

Sample Roles

: Below are an example role for a

Vanilla Townie

and a

Mafia Goon

.

At least 2 players are a Vanilla Townie. 1 or more players might be a Mafia Goon.

Ah fair.

please extra spice thank you

VOTE: Taly

[Flea The Magician]

please extra spice thank you

VOTE: Taly

That was predictable, not spicy.

Then predict my reason.

[Flea The Magician]

At least you have been engaged in the game more than me I feel like a spectator, been nothing to sink my teeth in to

[Flea The Magician]

I am not sure how many, but this reaction is unrealistic at all.

While it's possible moderator put up 8 MOTHERFUCKING PRs, i only can wonder how. I bet on atleast half of town being VT.

brain is failing, same bet because lots ungated

[Flea The Magician]

please extra spice thank you

VOTE: Taly

That was predictable, not spicy.

Then predict my reason.

Could be about what I last said to

Galron

.
The dissonance in my progression with

Meg

.
My on/off 1v1 with

Cheeky

.
Perhaps my readied belief in

Mastina's

intentions.
Or you agree with

Enchant's

solve
And may think the high energy

House

detected is scum indicative.

I've got plenty of ammo against me.

At least you have been engaged in the game more than me I feel like a spectator, been nothing to sink my teeth in to

So is your vote partially a reaction test?

None of the above

[Flea The Magician]

Also while this is "UPick", mod chooses PRs, so game will be balanced.


UPICKGAMEDOESH'TMEANTHERE'SFUCKINGPRSEVERYWHERE. Mod as well could add one or two and left mafia with just one PR as well.

It's basically "OH HEY MEG YOU ARE SUS
1. YOU CLAIMED VT WOW SO FITTING YOUR PLAYSTYLE I BELIEVE THAT!
2. WOW YOU CLAIMED PR WELL I QUESS YOU CAN BE KEPT ALIVE FOR A WHILE!

Literally it's so fucking lame unbelieving excuse even i can do better.

No just fuck, it's actually hilarious, can't believe you doing this. You probably can't see but every voice in my head laughs.

Also yes i expected it from start. Magician.

huh? Also every voice here thinks you're scum, A, M, S and D. Even N and N doesn't play mafia actively.

[Flea The Magician]

Also while this is "UPick", mod chooses PRs, so game will be balanced.


UPICKGAMEDOESH'TMEANTHERE'SFUCKINGPRSEVERYWHERE. Mod as well could add one or two and left mafia with just one PR as well.

It's basically "OH HEY MEG YOU ARE SUS
1. YOU CLAIMED VT WOW SO FITTING YOUR PLAYSTYLE I BELIEVE THAT!
2. WOW YOU CLAIMED PR WELL I QUESS YOU CAN BE KEPT ALIVE FOR A WHILE!

Literally it's so fucking lame unbelieving excuse even i can do better.

No just fuck, it's actually hilarious, can't believe you doing this. You probably can't see but every voice in my head laughs.

Also yes i expected it from start. Magician.

huh? Also every voice here thinks you're scum, A, M, S and D. Even N and N doesn't play mafia actively.

Mafia NK this

please do, it means I'm on a streak <3

[Flea The Magician]

Also yes i expected it from start. Magician.

I want this expanding on, it's the only reason G hasn't declared yet lol

[Flea The Magician]

I've seen you play hard, and I dont recall seeing you eat the D1

[Flea The Magician]

Given you've given nothing here, are you surprised there's a little teensy bit of momentum?

[Flea The Magician]

I'm kind of happy I accomplished my goal of sus'ing the shit out of my slot.

Reason I voted you is because it was funnier than just unvoting ftr.

[Flea The Magician]

If mastina, Dwlee99, Taly, me, House and Scorpious hold firm, town wins. Just need to add more.

Crossed fingers for a neg result.

Thanks.

I only disclosed it bc Covid supposedly has a mental component, so it makes me doubt if I should push scum. As long as my core is ok, we can recover.

Depends on the severity of the infection. Much love anyway titus and fingers crossed for you <3

[Flea The Magician]

House

do you feel like your 1v1s are going anywhere?

Do I strike you as someone that concerns myself with productivity of squabbles?

Sufficient for the day is its trolling.

Just gunna confirm this.

House is trollier than the character they portray

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah pretty much Taly I'm down for a Mastina, Enchant or maybe a Scorp lim at the mo i think...

[Flea The Magician]

or Meg I guess... whats the time on....

[Flea The Magician]

also why I don't remember having like any decent interactions with anyone? I'm sure I've tried at some point D:

[Flea The Magician]

You're disgusting, and I love it.

Who am I hammering?

[Flea The Magician]

Greeting

, which group do you think contains 2 scum?

My mind is telling me this: (

Flea The Magician

,

Dwlee99

,

ɀefiend

), my gut is telling me this: (

Titus

,

mastina

,

Taly

,

Galron

,

House

,

Scorpious

,

Enchant

). So... I don't know. lol.

However, even if we assume that my gut and not my mind is correct, we have a 1/3rd chance of hitting scum in this group (

Flea The Magician

,

Dwlee99

,

ɀefiend

) and 2/7th of hitting scum in this group (

Titus

,

mastina

,

Taly

,

Galron

,

House

,

Scorpious

,

Enchant

). 1/3 is 33.3% and 2/7 is 28.6%. The first one is higher.

I do have some townreads for the bigger group that could potentially narrow down the pool, but I'm not very confident about them. The assumption itself about the wagons isn't very firm, so if we add more shaky assumptions, the whole reasoning is more likely to be fallacious.

I do not, however, have any townread for players in this group (

Flea The Magician

,

Dwlee99

,

ɀefiend

).

Which is why I think that my focus will lie with those three players on Day Two.

For you, I can see this being a good group to work in.

For me, I've enough enough all scum/all town wagons to be able to work on that and you grab any 3 players you have 1-in-3 ish chance to hit scum.
So I won't be working in that pool.

[Flea The Magician]

Flea is very fluffy looking.

That's just my default, honestly.

[Flea The Magician]

What happened to Enchant Mech Clear? Hmm?

[Flea The Magician]

I need to regather my thoughts from D1, brain has wibbled on this game. Vague memory of posting earlier but soup gotta soup.

[Flea The Magician]

OK, vaguely back with it, I need Mastina to post and my day will be decided from there ^_^

[Flea The Magician]

Yay mastina posted.

Team is Enchant, Mastina, and 1 other.
Will deconstruct mastina later when I have laptop and some time.

<3

[Flea The Magician]

Oh and VOTE: Enchant

[Flea The Magician]

Flea if scum, attempts a pocket you here if you're town.
Youre stuck in mechsolve. Which is Scumstina.

[Flea The Magician]

OK, vaguely back with it, I need Mastina to post and my day will be decided from there ^_^

Yay mastina posted.

Team is Enchant, Mastina, and 1 other.
Will deconstruct mastina later when I have laptop and some time.

<3

Oh and VOTE: Enchant

Not a fan of this progression,

Flea

.

You base your play today on

mastina

but then vote

Enchant

as an associative to

mastina

.

Since I'm certain

You/Mastina

are not S/S, I wonder why you're picking sides in

House V Enchant

instead of pursuing

mastina

. Regardless of

Enchant's

alignment in relation to you, it looks half-hearted.

But tbh it's not a bad thing you aren't.

Mastina

remains confidently town for me and if anyone should sheep any of my reads this game it is here.

Fine phone post it is.

Mastina is a tricky read. In my experience she's less flat then she has been here and less mechsolvey.

I've been against mastina and more again enchant since D1. I can and will pull receipts (as the cool kids say).

I was set on scum.enchant for a while, quite a while if you remember. Waiting for mastina to post was waiting for her to tell me how right or wrong I am.

And now if you'll excuse me...

Wish, upon, a star! Believe in a realm, the realm of the King - of fantasy!

[Flea The Magician]

I want an elimination

House

would you want to compromise on

Enchant

Not particularly.

I'd compromise on flea or the fiend.

Bring it housey.

Cause you got nothing on me

[Flea The Magician]

I want an elimination

House

would you want to compromise on

Enchant

Not particularly.

I'd compromise on flea or the fiend.

Bring it housey.

Cause you got nothing on me

With Scorpious & fiend pelts under my belt, I'd steamroll you if you are actually bold enough to leave me alive.

Even if I was red, you're not on my kill list

[Flea The Magician]

I want an elimination

House

would you want to compromise on

Enchant

Not particularly.

I'd compromise on flea or the fiend.

Bring it housey.

Cause you got nothing on me

With Scorpious & fiend pelts under my belt, I'd steamroll you if you are actually bold enough to leave me alive.

Please do feel free to lock, load and fire your none sustainable read on me housey <3



Going to do my mastina deconstruction tonight, busier day than expected.

[Flea The Magician]

Titus whats your current thoughts on Scorpius btw?

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah cause I'm that kind of player.

You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.

[Flea The Magician]

And I'm not asking for proof, I'm asking you to case me. Or give some reasoning, cause these always amuse me :3

[Flea The Magician]

We have three scum who submitted scum preference and then either refused to state their alignment preference (Cheeky, Meg) or lied about it and said they had town preference. (Technically, they could lie and say 'no preference', but I've reason to believe that everyone who claimed 'No Preference' is actually town here, just off of who the names claiming no preference are. I don't think scum truthfully claimed no preference given Enchant, and I don't think scum lied about it being no preference given who the names are and basic psychology in mafia play in that mafia would be afraid to claim 'no preference' if they thought that claiming no preference would make them more likely to be seen as a scum candidate.)

Spoiler: Notes

TOWN

PREFERENCE:

mastina
House
Scorpious
Yume
Greeting
Flea the Magician

CheekyTeeky (after much resistance)

ɀefiend

NO ALIGNMENT PREFERENCE:

Taly
Titus
Galron

SCUM

PREFERENCE:

Enchant? (Not sure if serious)

PREFERENCE NOT YET STATED:

MegAzumarill

[snippy snip]

Between the players having stated town and the player refusing to state a preference, we have 9/13 players.

So what this tells me:

Taly and Titus are town;
Galron is

probably

town.

If Enchant is town, which he probably is, then all three scum would be in those that didn't claim or claimed town.

Removing myself, that pool?
{House, Scorpious, Yume, Greeting, Flea the Magician,

CheekyTeeky

, ɀefiend,

MegAzumarill

}.


[snippy]

It gives us 3/7.5 names as scum from a narrowed list.

Not quite 50% odds of hitting scum, but 40% odds of hitting scum beats the default 25% we'd have otherwise (3/12).

And from this, we can get into the reads on players from that list.

{

House,

Scorpious

, Yume, Flea the Magician,

CheekyTeeky,

ɀefiend,

MegAzumarill

}

Cheeky's play looks like scum;
Meg's play looks like scum.

¹

Even if both are scum, that'd leave 1/4 of the remaining prime suspects as candidates.

[Quote of Zefiends 174 snipped] This makes me lean town on zefiend.

Which leaves 1-3 scum in {House, Yume, Flea the Magician}.

I could see it being any of them, but while I can't read House worth a damn, loosely, I think his contributions are town. I think 102 was accurate regardless (if House is scum, he was the scum; otherwise, it's probably Meg), and find the Cheeky House vote there sus.

If I had to go gun to my head, I'd say that in {Yume, Flea, House}, towniest to scummiest it'd be House > Yume > Flea.

So right now, I'm thinking:

All 3 scum are in {

CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill,

House, Yume, Flea the Magician

};

²

CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill

have a high chance of being scum;
House is less likely scum;
There's 1-2 scum in {Yume, Flea the Magician};

There's basically a guaranteed scum, 1-2, in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill}

.

This post aged well.
1)This bit aged amazingly. But hey 2 of the peeps mentioned are in...
2) This which is basically a solve at this point. But you spend so much of the post flattering house and disregarding any sort of negative read on him.
3) This is a primary mechsolve focus on a uPick, I expect some mechsolve from Mastina, but not this much and definitely not influencing her reads as solidly as this.

Oh there was a fun thing I noticed here too. Will point it out later because it's just for fun. It kinda ties into my 3rd candidate and honestly if it's true I am going to lose so much respect for Mastina while giving her so much more because who the fuck does that. Anyway.

Official Votecount 1.4

MegAzumarill (4): Titus, House, mastina, Taly

[E-3]

Btw there's a high chance of these all being town.

Four town voting a player.

If MegAzumarill is town, then it still gives information on the gamestate.

+Scorpious to that.

¹

I genuinely think that the 5 main names on the wagon have a very high chance of being town.

^1.5

Taly is definitely town; Titus is very strongly likely to be town; I maintain that both House and Scorpious are highly likely to be town.

I realize the scum killed CheekyTeeky when Cheeky was a mislim target and that both Cheeky and Meg were town.

But while I think that does necessitate a reassessment of prior assumptions, I don't believe the correct thing to do is "throw out all prior reads in favor of starting from scratch and immediately paranoia-scumread prior townreads".

²

I still believe my mechsolve was more right than not.
I still believe my townreads separate from mechanics were more right than not.

^2.5

I will need to assess things more, but for a start?

{Galron, Enchant, Greeting, Flea the Magician, Dwlee, zefiend} is the initial sorting pool.

Greeting is very very very obviously town here, so should be removed (not to mention mechanics support this as town anyway).

³

{Galron, Enchant, Flea the Magician, Dwlee, zefiend} is the remainder.

I'm not really sure who the scum in there is, but I'll say that I have scumreads on both Flea and Dwlee here and my Galron townread has evaporated and literally the only thing keeping me from thinking Galron is scum is the mechanics-theory since without that I'd just lock the scumteam as {Galron, Flea, Dwlee}.

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I still like Enchant as town for both my mechanics theory and Enchant's play, but it's not nearly as strong.

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5

I do need to reassess, which is why I'm not casting a vote. Might not get around to reassessing tonight, but I'll be doing the dive into the probable scum here soon(TM).

ROCK CONCERT MOMVEMENT NUMBER 982: DESTROYING A POST. READY? GO.

This vote count and my modifications are relevant.

MegAzumarill

(7):

Titus, mastina, Taly,

Galron,

House, Scorpious, Enchant

[E-0]
Enchant (2): Greeting,

MegAzumarill

Taly (1): Flea The Magician
ɀefiend (1):

CheekyTeeky

Scorpious (1): Dwlee99

Not Voting (1): ɀefiend

Number match the pinks above.
1) Ah yes, All four players on the wagon must be town despite that being a green flip and statistically you're looking at 1-2 scum on there.
1.5) After Meg's townflip you stick to that information and add a name to it. Curious. Also one of those names is you and seem far more keen than usual to force the impression that you're town. The reason I added the vote count is that by your process so far, Galron is absolutely scum based on vote counts.
2)One thing we agree on, those flips require you as a town player to reassess when you're doing here.
2.5) You didn't have independent reads. Your reads were influenced by your mech.
3)

*faepalm*

4) Your scumread on me was gut and PoE. 234 - and mechPOE. I will take a moment to challenge what you think I gain from openly claiming yes I tend to prefer mafia aligned games but I submitted town.
5) Speaking of mech, thought you were assessing outside of that?


I ain't even quoting 983 because I think you actually TMI'd. That is a big post and more mech which goes absolutely nowhere and does nothing. With that in mind, 984 is sus.

985 is also a lot of hot air. The mechanical and play solves have no difference really and if anything your mechanics spec reads like your play spec should and vice versa.

990 is cute. Because I've said I'm coming for your post, I'm scum. Mastina when do I ever come for you as scum? also (991) like I said, if I'm scum I pocket you here because your mech spec is a good thread filler and distraction.

You're covering a lot for Enchant, who while I respect as a scum player, I'm sure I remember them struggling to play scum.

As for your 3rd... well theres 2 candidates, one stronger than the other. And I fully expect the strong one to attempt to destroy and discredit me in every way possible again. >:)

Spoiler: Closing statement

Riding

hard

every

shooting

star
Come

to

life,

open

mind,

have

a

laugh

at

the

orthodox
Come,

drink

deep

let

the

dam

of

mind

seep
Travel

with

great

Élan,

dance

a

jig

at

the

funeral

I love that script... and that song... oh and made you look.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah cause I'm that kind of player.

You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.

"Currently".

Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.

If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?

One bad flip

*might*

do it, but I'm confident you're town here.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah cause I'm that kind of player.

You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.

"Currently".

Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.

If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?

One bad flip

*might*

do it, but I'm confident you're town here.

Deal.

Vote Scorpious. Help me push it through, and hold me singularly accountable for the outcome.

That would only work if Scorpius is one of the bad flips in question

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah cause I'm that kind of player.

You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.

"Currently".

Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.

If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?

One bad flip

*might*

do it, but I'm confident you're town here.

Deal.

Vote Scorpious. Help me push it through, and hold me singularly accountable for the outcome.

That would only work if Scorpius is one of the bad flips in question

If he's a good flip, we have killed scum.

Win/Win.

You have no grounds to object.

I do. You're town, I'm pretty sure Scorp is too at this point. Though Scorp goes into PoE before you. You got your work cut out to get on my scum list, ngl.

[Flea The Magician]

Come on people, just vote Scorpious.

Don't make me say the word.

Say the word

Galron before making post 1258:

Ngl curious.what the thinking is here.
Galron?

[Flea The Magician]

Titus whats your current thoughts on Scorpius btw?

VOTE: Scorpious

I disagree with your read here but I do owe you.

Tituuuuus this doesn't tell me your thoooooughts??

[Flea The Magician]

We're still trying to spec over a hider death?

There is literally too many options to narrow down at this stage.

Just saying.

[Flea The Magician]

, push me harder and more reasonable or get lost.

*laughs in chaos fiend*

[Flea The Magician]

Right.

Because scum is immune to anger.

Fake ass post is fake.

I'm tired, see you folks tomorrow.

It’s not that they are immune to anger, Richard..

It’s that it was written with genuine emotion…

Get out of your own ass and think outside the box for a change.

Yes, right... because rolling scum makes one immune to being annoyed by dipshittery.

Wish I rolled scum every game, in that case.

It’s not my fault you feel beta when I introduce logic that never even crossed your mind.

When someone types 96 posts one way and types a 97th with entirely different cadence and syntax, I feel it warrants at least a second look, especially when it’s someone I could be wrong about(cough).

Calling my posts fake because it makes new neurons fire for you isn’t just dick like, it’s ignorant.

Or we can just this same bullshit that you apparently love to do based on the post counts from some of your games and just bicker about nothing, and accomplish less..

Go to bed… You’re tired..

There is so much to deconstruct here we're going to need snacks.

Bbs getting snacks

[Flea The Magician]

Btw I'm

pretty

sure that Flea's 1217 is a scum-Flea case?

I'm pretty sure that's not how Flea cases as town and I'm pretty sure I've seen Flea write a case almost exactly like that one when fae were scum.

This is purely from memory and my memory is shit, so it's something which ideally should be verified when I have more time, but yeah, I do think that Flea has a quite significant chance of being scum here.

Problem is I'm never out of scum range. Go dismantle the case if you think it's bad. I'm looking forward to it.

Also from memory yes you're on oarnpostinf with CT mafia

[Flea The Magician]

Wow phone.
"On par posting"

[Flea The Magician]

Btw I'm

pretty

sure that Flea's 1217 is a scum-Flea case?

I'm pretty sure that's not how Flea cases as town and I'm pretty sure I've seen Flea write a case almost exactly like that one when fae were scum.

This is purely from memory and my memory is shit, so it's something which ideally should be verified when I have more time, but yeah, I do think that Flea has a quite significant chance of being scum here.

Problem is I'm never out of scum range. Go dismantle the case if you think it's bad. I'm looking forward to it.

Also from memory yes you're on oarnpostinf with CT mafia

So what's a reliable way to deduce that you are town? Because I can easily see you as scum posting 1217. It's just poking at

mastina's

readrate after-the-fact when you gave no strong stance against the major wagons D1. This is largely because your focus was much more aligned with scumreading

mastina

other than finding town.

This is a convenient perspective to take as scum and I don't readily see the town motivation.

Fluidity if reads and emotional range from self analysis.
As scum my reads seem more fluid, and they're more flat.

As it stands I gain more from Enchants flip than I do mastinas and both are scum here.

Waiting to for mastina to post to direct my day was telling me how liable she is the slip up, currently I reckon I solve the game through her.

[Flea The Magician]

Unless you think I'm bussing mastina, or scared of her.

Which ftr she's on my n1 kill list.

[Flea The Magician]

Go dismantle the case if you think it's bad. I'm looking forward to it.

Oh it is a bad case and I could, I just see no reason to, but it's not the case being bad which makes it scum; it's the case being what it is combined with your perspective where you're focused on "dismantling" which makes me pretty sure it's you as scum.

Because you're just trying to jedi hand wave it and me away.

Sadly being a set of droids jedi hand waves don't work on me.

[MSE-T5T-1 to 5 - I may be in a starwars droid game... playing mouse droids...]

[Flea The Magician]

Go dismantle the case if you think it's bad. I'm looking forward to it.

Oh it is a bad case and I could, I just see no reason to, but it's not the case being bad which makes it scum; it's the case being what it is combined with your perspective where you're focused on "dismantling" which makes me pretty sure it's you as scum.

Because you're just trying to jedi hand wave it and me away.

Sadly being a set of droids jedi hand waves don't work on me.

[MSE-T5T-1 to 5 - I may be in a starwars droid game... playing mouse droids...]

[Flea The Magician]

Go dismantle the case if you think it's bad. I'm looking forward to it.

Oh it is a bad case and I could, I just see no reason to, but it's not the case being bad which makes it scum; it's the case being what it is combined with your perspective where you're focused on "dismantling" which makes me pretty sure it's you as scum.

Because you're just trying to jedi hand wave it and me away.

Sadly being a set of droids jedi hand waves don't work on me.

[MSE-T5T-1 to 5 - I may be in a starwars droid game... playing mouse droids...]

[Flea The Magician]

Wow a triple... I only clicked that once.

Which ftr she's on my n1 kill list.

Yeah about that.

If Cheeky wasn't killed by scum, there's a pretty damn high chance I was, so...

Again with the NK Spec...

[Flea The Magician]

mastina/titus/greeting

are town, try again

*throws body onto the floor and starts hitting the ground screaming*

*Pokes with the pointy stick*

[Flea The Magician]

No idea.. but I'm sure I remember hating them as a kid when we could get them over here without import...

[Flea The Magician]

It's almost like I know that and that's why I'm thinking your town.

Also, you need to be in F5/F3 for me to be considering scum!you at this point housey.

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah anyone who isn't townhunting is giving me a bright ass orange flag. Very scumsided gamestate.

*waves two red ones and signals in semaphore.*

[Flea The Magician]

Let's play a game!

Give a townread or get voted.

I hope you realise this is actually impossible for me.

And people don't take me seriously, and I'm manic af sooooo you get unbridled chaos non-solvey flea now because frankly if a jedi hand wave is enough to dismiss my case, then my solve and input isn't worth the effort of typing

*Gold and diamonds, love and fame... and music meant to remain.... You've been dying for glory, you've been looking for love. Why don't you read the signs when we're about to get lose....*

[Flea The Magician]

Let's play a game!

Give a townread or get voted.

I hope you realise this is actually impossible for me.

And people don't take me seriously, and I'm manic af sooooo you get unbridled chaos non-solvey flea now because frankly if a jedi hand wave is enough to dismiss my case, then my solve and input isn't worth the effort of typing

*Gold and diamonds, love and fame... and music meant to remain.... You've been dying for glory, you've been looking for love. Why don't you read the signs when we're about to get lose....*

It's almost like I know that and that's why I'm thinking your town.

Also, you need to be in F5/F3 for me to be considering scum!you at this point housey.

Yeah cause I'm that kind of player.

You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.

"Currently".

Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.

If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?

One bad flip

*might*

do it, but I'm confident you're town here.

Deal.

Vote Scorpious. Help me push it through, and hold me singularly accountable for the outcome.

That would only work if Scorpius is one of the bad flips in question

If he's a good flip, we have killed scum.

Win/Win.

You have no grounds to object.

I do. You're town, I'm pretty sure Scorp is too at this point. Though Scorp goes into PoE before you. You got your work cut out to get on my scum list, ngl.

I would so be voting you right now in ordinary circumstances.

So kind of the good doctor to prove my point.
Vote me housey and yeet me.

[Flea The Magician]

Not to be an ass, but didn't we have a list of all the things people claimed?

:p I'd go get it, but cba and it's a Mastina post which she precleared Taly in for some reason...

[Flea The Magician]

Also none of you actually professed a townread.

So saying house isn't even a consideration until YOLO isn't professing a townread? kewl.

house is a tr, as is dwlee and scorp ^_^

[Flea The Magician]

Again.
I’m trying to think outside the box on why a game that was hyper X10 just died..

The game literally ignored Taly, as a whole.. and there has been almost zero response to a claim.

There were 56 pages is like 7 days before that..

One of the hyper posters gave up.

It was was faer mania or just general grouchiness with being able to be jedi'd away that has stopped fae from posting constantly is a different question...

[Flea The Magician]

Hye I was right on Titus gg peeps