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vote:cephYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You were never going to have fun this game, you drew a scum role PM.In post 61, Cephrir wrote:ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game
I'm doing you a favour by yeeting you so quickly, honest. Ripping the bandaid off so you don't need to suffer and drag your feet through it all.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'll give you more. More eliminations that is!In post 66, Cephrir wrote:thank you ma'am may i have anotherYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Yes. You should. That is exactly why I am killing you.In post 68, Cephrir wrote:
how dare i attempt to have fun. i should be burned at the stake for this heinous crimeIn post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mineIn post 61, Cephrir wrote:ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game
For actively seeking fun. It reads to me like you drew scum, hated it, and are now looking for ways to make your own fun.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This isn't a general motivation scumread Ceph.
It's a YOU read. I'm sorry if that feels shitty but I drew green and I'm kind of obligated to drink em if I got emYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh merde I should have kept my trap shut to see this play out.In post 75, Cephrir wrote:
i'd be interested in seeing you try to explain this without copying LLD's homeworkIn post 70, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
Fluff isn't a crimeIn post 68, Cephrir wrote:
how dare i attempt to have fun. i should be burned at the stake for this heinous crimeIn post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mineIn post 61, Cephrir wrote:ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game
It's the scum poking out of itYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If you are town you know what you will need to do to evade this bad outcome then.In post 81, Cephrir wrote:what is the harm in elaborating on that further?
i was thinking of doing this gimmick before receiving my role PM based on my vague impression of what the game is about (i have watched someone play it for exactly 5 minutes), if that helps
I leave it to you to prove it.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I would argue your ability to do it and your success rate goes up if you are green over red butIn post 84, Cephrir wrote:i have to imagine my ability to suss out what i need to do to evade a bad outcome isn't actually related to the color of my role pm, it would be my ability to execute on it that would change
If you wanna bus for cred I will give you cred too. LolYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I mean you were the only one to catch me in several different games where you were left alive because of your lack of ability to convince people and then killed as the final vote.In post 89, Cephrir wrote:
you expect me to catch scum? when have i ever done thatIn post 86, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I would argue your ability to do it and your success rate goes up if you are green over red butIn post 84, Cephrir wrote:i have to imagine my ability to suss out what i need to do to evade a bad outcome isn't actually related to the color of my role pm, it would be my ability to execute on it that would change
If you wanna bus for cred I will give you cred too. Lol
I believe in your ability to catch. Not your ability to push. Both are normally required hence the failure rate.
But now you have my angy firebird self at your heels and possibly willing to push something of yours to test your alignment.
So you only need to solve, not push this time.
So do the work. If you are town, i trust myself to see it. If you arent, I trust myself to kill you.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I told you. We are a system. We differ every game.In post 93, Bell wrote:Who killed LLD and replaced her with generic good player variation #5Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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It is hard to explain because it is a thing Cephrir has only shown and told about in places I can't really draw evidence from but given Ceph's lack of outrage at the claims I am making I think you can infer the logic is at least true. Whether it is valid and reaches Ceph scum this time you can evaluate yourself but.In post 96, Ircher wrote:
Can you explain how this is scum indicative for Cephrir? I'm not familiar with his meta.In post 63, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine
This seems really reachy. A lot of people mess around during the beginning of a game. How is this scum-indicative for Cephrir specifically and not for anyone else?In post 71, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:For actively seeking fun. It reads to me like you drew scum, hated it, and are now looking for ways to make your own fun.
The logic is not fallaciousYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Mush feels town to me tbh.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I don't explain town reads. Provides scum with insight into my blindspots and makes my reads worse.
Here is a counter point. You ask this question without providing your own feelings. What is your read on Mush?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I am here to let you know that your tone meter is off because I will happily kill you before them.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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vote:ircherYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You were warned, Ircher.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Mush not scum so.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ceph no stealing my gimmickkkk
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Not wholy sure I'm comfortable enough making this confident but I am not looking to kill greeting today, noIn post 232, Save The Dragons wrote:greeting is still town thoYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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We will see what Ceph does. For now I am comfortable giving them the space to do the thinga I described and hunt. Hard to do that with a flashlight in your eyes.In post 239, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Yeah, votecount good -- and on that note! LLD I wanna doublecheck on Ceph, cause I reread the ISO and it doesn't smell as bad as I remembered, and its not just effortposting either. Feels legit. Thoughts?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I am willing to argue I know mush better than almost anyone in this game and these posts are 100% within mush range.
Now doesnt make them immune from being scum but... Within range and not weird? Yep.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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This is extra funny because both my parents were high level private sector and government defense lawyers.In post 256, The Three Bears wrote:I want to have LLD and Galron thunderdome and not have Galron get chewed up and spit out solely because LLD is that good a prosecutor.
I also want a million dollars after my student loans are paid off.
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And one of their preferred abuse methods with me was to sit me down and cross examine me before deciding I was lying and well... You get the idea with the word abuse.
So it is possible that is part of what made me good at mafia. Hah.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Been playing for 18 years now, since I was 10. So yeah.In post 272, Greeting wrote:
Sounds like you were destined for this game!In post 271, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
This is extra funny because both my parents were high level private sector and government defense lawyers.
And one of their preferred abuse methods with me was to sit me down and cross examine me before deciding I was lying and well... You get the idea with the word abuse.
So it is possible that is part of what made me good at mafia. Hah.
Jokes aside, I'm very sorry, that sounds really abusive.
And yeah they suck lolYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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It... What? Quoi?
Are you sure you understood the argument?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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The argument is that Cephrir actively has no fun as scum and has done and said many things that I can't really pull as evidence to essentially show this to be true.In post 282, Greeting wrote:EBWOP: first sentence of 278 - I meantMUSHSHAGANAand notCephrir, as in - the confusion regardingMUSHSHAGANA's posts.
Was there something I misunderstood?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It... What? Quoi?
Are you sure you understood the argument?
And so attempting to create their own fun is what I would expect scum ceph to try and do to make things bearableYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh, so that's a meta argument. Gosh, meta seems to be dictating everything players rely on this game. I care less about meta than about actual content.In post 285, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
The argument is that Cephrir actively has no fun as scum and has done and said many things that I can't really pull as evidence to essentially show this to be true.In post 282, Greeting wrote:EBWOP: first sentence of 278 - I meantMUSHSHAGANAand notCephrir, as in - the confusion regardingMUSHSHAGANA's posts.
Was there something I misunderstood?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It... What? Quoi?
Are you sure you understood the argument?
And so attempting to create their own fun is what I would expect scum ceph to try and do to make things bearable
The irony of you saying this to ME of all people is just SO high.
I don't really work on Meta, this is a behavioural read based on past experience. This is not "When Ceph does this, he's scum!" it's "based on my experiences with Ceph, this behaviour leans this way"
just... just FYI. I hate meta. I'm not a meta practicioner.
Oh, and also also, nothing of your posts has really kind of said anything which is the irony part. You're saying a lot of words and accomplishing... not much. I'd probably swallow the ego a little and dig in a little more.
Sorry, I'm trying to be nice person LLD this game but this made me itch.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Not really? like Meta is literally taking tendancies from one game and kind of trust telling them into another. See: Mastina always claims Mason as a memeIn post 291, Greeting wrote:
Isn't that what meta is, though? Judgement of someone's play by how they played in other games, regardless of whether you've been in that game or not?In post 290, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: I don't really work on Meta, this is a behavioural read based on past experience. This is not "When Ceph does this, he's scum!" it's "based on my experiences with Ceph, this behaviour leans this way"
I quite disagree and my ego has very little to do with anything I do in mafia games.In post 290, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh, and also also, nothing of your posts has really kind of said anything which is the irony part. You're saying a lot of words and accomplishing... not much. I'd probably swallow the ego a little and dig in a little more.
That's meta.
As for your posts... like there's a lot of words and not a lot said. Like you wrote a lot about Ceph but missed Mush's point and completely misunderstood mine.
The Ego part of this is that you could have dug into either of our arguments with lines of questioning that might have informed you about our alignments but you thought you understood our arguments and now I'm here telling you that you've gone 0/2 on that regard.
Hence... Ego.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Hmm, maybe "overconfidence" is the word to use. Overconfidence in ones interpretations.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I'm about 30 seconds and 20 characters from dayvigging your slot.In post 295, The Three Bears wrote:
Dont tell Curse I said this o-o but another reason I scum read you was actually your control over the gamestate. Curse normally doesn't have that O_O I think it's partly because you're a little more like "let's make a huge mess out of this thread" than Curse and people like it. I keep thinking survivor things because I just played two ORGs back to back but I'm thinking that you seem like you're more a good shield/in the middle and people are more interested in keeping you around and are more okay with you leading things. Anyways...In post 289, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:FIIIIINE Curse can have the wheel for the night, stg can't have shit in this town, peace
-baby bear
Say something townie or die.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Sure.In post 299, The Three Bears wrote:
do itIn post 297, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I'm about 30 seconds and 20 characters from dayvigging your slot.In post 295, The Three Bears wrote:
Dont tell Curse I said this o-o but another reason I scum read you was actually your control over the gamestate. Curse normally doesn't have that O_O I think it's partly because you're a little more like "let's make a huge mess out of this thread" than Curse and people like it. I keep thinking survivor things because I just played two ORGs back to back but I'm thinking that you seem like you're more a good shield/in the middle and people are more interested in keeping you around and are more okay with you leading things. Anyways...In post 289, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:FIIIIINE Curse can have the wheel for the night, stg can't have shit in this town, peace
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Say something townie or die.
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You told me to. I did.
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Fucks sakes you're linking me Epic Mafia too?
I playtested that site for Lucid some fucking 18 years ago. Maybe a little shorter than that. It was a long ass time ago. I was friends with Willain Gallis. lmfao
God I feel old as fuckYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You sure don't sound like a townie who just got killed. I feel like I shot correctly.In post 311, The Three Bears wrote:like im literally such an easy mislim that would've happened someday anyways wtf was the reason.
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We can multitask, it's fine.
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I've played with you once, Noraa. And I called you scum. And you were scum.In post 319, The Three Bears wrote:i hope so because this was stupid if not a joke. lld's read rate on me is actually laughably bad that if that was a genuine dayvig, thats literally horrible.
Did we ever play again?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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HahahahahahahahaYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Noraa you're so fucking free.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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What's going on is I decided to fakevig Noraa when it was just her and Titus and Flea weren't around to coach the reaction.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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AhahahahahahahahaYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So.
Fucking.
Free.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I was literally scum in Tenet. And I didn't shoot you in death curse BECAUSE I THOUGHT SOMEONE ELSE WOULD. AND THEY DID.In post 339, The Three Bears wrote:if it helps, this was gonna be my last post but cakey cut me off before i could post it so i just went and ate dinner:
did you read me right in tenet? did you shoot me in death curse when you could?
NO.
You're hilarious. You've named 2 games, one of which I WAS SCUM IN AND WON A PERFECT VICTORY.
and the other one I SCUMREAD YOU IN AND ONLY DIDN'T KILL YOU SO I COULD TAKE A SHOT AT SOMEONE SCARIER.
ahahahahahahhahahaYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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So,
Fucking.
Free.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I can't believe you literally named a game where I was scum and won with 0 scum deaths as an example of where I couldn't read you.
AHahahahhahahahahYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I've no idea what your alignment is, besides "Clown".In post 342, The Three Bears wrote:So you think im scum?
I'm kind of lost in the sauce of my own laughter. I'll go back and look at how you reacted later.
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According to Rhi I have had my fun and I need to calm down and be nice again, but ye gods I haven't had this much fun in forever.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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It means that you of the 3 of them is the most likely to give me a real reaction to a fakevig and not reserve themselves, and that had they been around I don't think I could have trusted your reaction not to have been controlled and editted for my viewing pleasure.In post 347, The Three Bears wrote:I dont get how this is funny. Doesn't seem like you even got anything out of it at the end of the day.
You waited for a time when titus and flea weren't around to coach me. What is that supposed to mean? I VERY RARELY take my hydra buddy's advice. So many of my hydra buddies have been good mafia players but die day 1 in a hydra with me. So what was the purpose of this test?
Now I get to go look at that and say "Noraa reacted this way, it was likely a real reaction, what does that say for her alignment"
that's whyYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Oh it's me being rude since you were rude to me. I'm making fun of you for being easy to fool/fuck with.In post 349, The Three Bears wrote:What does Im fucking free even mean also?
I'll be nice from now on, I've had my kicks. Just had to get my own in.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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yeah probablyIn post 356, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Noraa is probably town.
I have to go re-read the interaction to be sure but that's my gut instinct after the fakevig too.
Plus titus felt towny soYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I went wild, tbh. Someone gotta put bird back in the cage.In post 357, Bell wrote:This sure was a few pages of posts all right.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Shhhh, you'll give away my secrets!In post 360, Greeting wrote:Lady Lambdadeltaused this to get out of a lost argument and I'm not even mad.
No but seriously, I was a beta tester for Epic Mafia. If anything behavioural is meta then we're covering a large ground here.
I'm willing to use some meta/experience to read people but I won't scour games and look for things you can fake/change. There's a difference, IMOYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Eh? Noraa's reaction should tell you somethign.In post 366, Bell wrote:I'm not mad, per se. Just confused and don't see anything AI.
Agree that my fakeviging is not AI, but noraa has to give you something...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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??? When? with me?In post 367, Tet wrote:Yeah I've played with everyone here except roden and Elodie. Unless they're alts too.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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n0 cop?In post 353, Tet wrote:I retract my n0 cop on LLD.
Still reading but page 7 threw me for a loop and I thought Bell was responding to themselves for like 7 straight posts.
But I've got arcade, lld, maybe ceph as townleans.
I have mush as a neutral read not in the nonread sense. My first inclination is scummy with a townie mask but I could see it as townie with a lapse in logic that makes them look scummy if I stretch it.
Not thrilled with std yet and I kinda think norwee rolled scum.
Mastina looks kind of ok with the vote pass off thing to LLD.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Man this does not make me feel better about Ceph. I feel ike you named 2 townies as town, pushed townie mush as scum and Ceph kind of stands otu.In post 370, T3 wrote:not in the mood for analysis. long day.
mush is scum, ceph, bell, and std are town
I'm saying this read list is weird.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAIn post 372, Tet wrote:I think our only game together LLD was a scum game. You convinced someone to claim masons with you...or something absurd like that.
Wait that's your only experience with me?
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Hmmm, okay.In post 377, T3 wrote:
these were my reads at page 5, i'm stilll catching up.In post 374, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Man this does not make me feel better about Ceph. I feel ike you named 2 townies as town, pushed townie mush as scum and Ceph kind of stands otu.In post 370, T3 wrote:not in the mood for analysis. long day.
mush is scum, ceph, bell, and std are town
I'm saying this read list is weird.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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You posted a reads list?In post 389, Tet wrote:LLD why'd you push T3 on his readslist over me? They're nearly identical.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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I will just start posting in French lmfaoYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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The flipless anticonnective between greeting and I is very strange to me.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Did I say that?In post 652, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’d locktown LLD too for that fake dayvig thing, but then they were like: "i’d do this as scum too" which was a bit uhhhhh.
I mean I would do it as scum, it's not indicative of my alignment. Nothing at this point is outside of my scum range. I convinced someone to fake claim masons with me and then janitor killed them to win a game.
I'm pretty well locked into "don't locktown me ever" for life. I'm comfortable with that.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Did anyone need me? I swear I saw my name pop up a few times before I passed outYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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