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Yeah but this time I replace into an obvious town slot instead of lurkscum where I start picking fights just to throw people off balanceIn post 2037, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:syryana's popcorn n death curse get stuffed in the same locker
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Did you not have a read on Greeting before this?In post 2039, The Three Bears wrote:please why was peta's alt outed now i cant even meta catboi. it feels so weird to realize they are the same person i hate this.
also im not reading up atp. like ugh i just cant. i thought the day was over and i was like ok bye. but then it wasn't and now im just feeling dead yay.
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...okay, you didn't.Howdid you not have a read on greeting?
Day 1 in a 21 player game is gonna be about compromise ┐(´-`)┌In post 2040, The Three Bears wrote:i mean im happy the wagon is not on roden but also like i don SR ircher so its really just a ok whatever kind of vibe from me.
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Dunn's last few posts are some of the towniest posts he's ever madeIn post 2041, The Three Bears wrote:oh wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT hold the fukc up. i just skimmed dunnstrals iso.
thats scum. can we bring that wagon back please
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So do you not care about solving the game, or whatIn post 2044, The Three Bears wrote:no i didnt have a read on greeting. i wasn't reading their posts literally at all.
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Also I altslipped in donner party, a game you were in, you space cadetIn post 2039, The Three Bears wrote:please why was peta's alt outed now i cant even meta catboi. it feels so weird to realize they are the same person i hate this.
also im not reading up atp. like ugh i just cant. i thought the day was over and i was like ok bye. but then it wasn't and now im just feeling dead yay.
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That's not what I mean but okIn post 2049, The Three Bears wrote:
no im not particularly concerned with solving the whole game on day 1. im only working part time as cabd, sorry.In post 2048, catboi wrote:
So do you not care about solving the game, or whatIn post 2044, The Three Bears wrote:no i didnt have a read on greeting. i wasn't reading their posts literally at all.
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I'm wondering why you are seemingly unconcerned with developing a read on someone who had been active and posting a decent level of content- catboi
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Great, glad to hear itIn post 2055, Malakittens wrote:
Yasss.In post 2035, catboi wrote:Hai kittens~ You town this game?
I just been slightly under the weather, but I’m on the mend!!
Maybe we can be the dance masonry that never was this game (=^・^=)- catboi
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Not really a hard read but IMO to get your head in the game just ISO some of the lower postcount playersIn post 2058, Malakittens wrote:Yesss pls.
When I’m done being the solo tech + break - I’ll try to catch up. This game had to start as soon as I became symptomatic for Covid and I basically died in a ball.
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Response in particular was prompted by a Galron post but Grendel is doing that too and neither of them inspire warm feelings in meIn post 2068, Bell wrote:Other than me, who is distancing from the wagon?
Noraa hasn't but I don't really see them that way and their trejectory is sort of the opposite where they hard defended Ircher before becoming relatively bleh on them.
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noraa casing STD with "too towny to be town" in 1773 is pretty funny. Can't say I agree though - not like that level of depth in his reads is typical of his scum game either. Simplest answer is when a hard to read player is more involved than they typically are is that they're town and just happen to be extra motivated that game.- catboi
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Holy crap, it's way too late to finish catching up. Stopping on page 74 now.
Had STD/mush/ceph/tet/norwee/bell as town from reading to varying degrees of confidence.
Liked three bears but honestly didn't like noraa's posts when I subbed in, Lmao. Still probably town but with reservations.
Have vague positive feelings toward toogeloo/tictac/roden, Arcade Pals wasn't hot but don't think Dunn tries to case Bell as scum here- catboi
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Hmm, seems I struck a nerveIn post 2072, TheWayItEnds wrote:
this a hot takeIn post 2060, catboi wrote:thewayitends is probably scum simply because in a game that seems fixated on running up lurkers his name has not come up which suggests scum are more interested in pushing other targets
scum are only pushing lurkers
makes lurker push
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Confirmable role, I assume people are going to want to give it a day?In post 2076, Ircher wrote:I am Helen Marshall, a non-consecutive night friendly neighbor.- catboi
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I ggget what you're saying about bell but don't think it's entirely uncharacteristic for him, and, uh, his real life is kind of hell right now so I'm kind of inclined to give him a pass for that and when I looked at him there were some posts I thought were all right. I might be too attached to the idea of "Bell is psychologically incapable of posting as scum", but meh.In post 2077, Dunnstral wrote:
I don't think their tunnel on me due to our slot voting bell "when they were leaving" is very convincing. The argument isn't good and that they haven't found anything else to talk about is bad. 3 Bears also defaults to talking about me because it feels like they have not much else to say, maybe. Bell looks scummy to me as I outlined, and yes even if you are busy Bell and putting in a different amount of effort, I feel that you are pushing me on very little with not much else for readsIn post 2063, catboi wrote:Also not really sure why Andante is getting town reads at all- catboi
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Shrug, if scum burn a roleblock on a friendly neighbor rather than an actual good role that's pretty stupid IMO.In post 2086, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Well they better not wait a day with ysing the role.In post 2082, catboi wrote:
Confirmable role, I assume people are going to want to give it a day?In post 2076, Ircher wrote:I am Helen Marshall, a non-consecutive night friendly neighbor.
I feel like scum claiming confirmable roles to stall for time has become somewhat more common than it used to be but in a 21 player game I'm not that scuffed about it and never thought the case on Ircher was all that impressive. His walls aren't that bad.
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Elaborate on tictac?
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Friendly neighbor is a role that mod confirms itself as townIn post 2096, Galron wrote:
Could be a scum neighbor as easily as a town neighbor.In post 2083, Andante wrote:yeah definitely a confirmable role, I'm not voting ircher out, I'll deal with reads later
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my impression is that tictac tends to be quiet as either alignment, posts with actual content have some level of solvyness I don't hate, trajectory point is eh, could see it either way reallyIn post 2102, Tet wrote:I didn't hate his early posting, the back and forth with your slot actually. But I don't like that the contentious slots he's leaving open ended. What's specifically relevant now is his Ircher trajectory which goes :
Early ping/null with a downward trajectory because of It hers lack of posting (which didn't pick up) -> Ircher town because too many slots are scumreading them...ok -> wouldn't touch that wagon as it's about to flip.
But what really rubs me wrong is the posturing with the vote on Andante with nothing to back it up. As opposed to just riding his vanity wagon on std where he has at least pushed a case. It all comes off very fake. Even under the premise of compromise since it's just jumping from a nothing wagon to another nothing wagon.
I also did have the brief thought that tictac throwing mud at std might be important timing-wise on a red flip but I'd have to look back at who the leading wagon was. Or just a direct chainsaw for roden maybe.- catboi
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Meh, I think for Roden in particular he has a history of getting tilted at pressure as town. Ragequit the two anon dance games simply at the suggestion he was scum because he wasn't solving. He needs to, uh, not do that but ideally I'd rather just give him space and see what he does on his own rather than have him arguing endlessly with people about a read he gave in the very early game. But maybe I'm just a softy.In post 2150, Tet wrote:
It's not firm I just think their responses to pressure have been awful. I've seen the defense of them being "town can respond that way too" and it's like . . . So?In post 2122, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:rodens ehhhhhh i think roden/grendel are same alignment n i waffle back n forth on both slots when i think abt it
what do u see that makes it firmly scum play tet
Grendel's posting has been alright and I like the way they've engaged with reads. My only real issue with the slot is their predecessor, which isn't fair to them. But I can't shake that Meg was caught scum, so you can see my dilemma. I've decided I'll give them a day to make an impression removed from Meg.
Of course, he can emulate that tilt as scum so it's by no means clearing but the aggrieved self-meta felt somewhat believable. The read on my slot/LLD being unaligned did feel like hot nonsense and does him no favors but like I said, don't think you're going to get anything more useful out of it.- catboi
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Openly not reading the game/doesn't care about solving, pushing easy votes, playing reactively in response to how people are reading her, doesn't seem town at allIn post 2157, Cephrir wrote:i don't really understand why we're voting andante so i'm going to ask for an explanation since i assumed the ircher wagon would generate one without my asking and it didn't
places i would be happy to vote rn: grendel, roden, val, tictac
im sure there are other places i could be sold on
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How do you possibly square townreading galron more than bears?In post 2166, Val89 wrote:
I'm not feeling it, but I am sitting on a townlean on you, so I am willing to listen.In post 2156, Galron wrote:Bears is town- catboi
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Hey do you mind telling me whether the flavor of Ircher's claim makes sense?In post 2171, Toogeloo wrote:
Agreed, your reads are shyte.In post 2165, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Damn. Looking that over feels terrible. Full disclosure: my reads are shit because I'm too busy thinking about the girl I'm dating to care much about the game. Don't read too hard into my reads, trust Shrike's judgement, this is its game.- catboi
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I would be honored to~In post 2207, Malakittens wrote:Catboi will you dance with me?!?- catboi
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felt like she's not really paying attention to the game and making easy pushes + has felt very reactive to other people's reads on her. But also I'm just compromising somewhere I don't townread to get a wagon before deadline.In post 2216, Malakittens wrote:Can someone explain andate scum cuz she feels different than holiday party where she pinged me early game
Would not oppose grendel simply because meg's posts were obviously bad and a lot of grendel's catchup felt like someone going through the motions, scumread on norwee didn't feel like it was based on anything tangible. No strong impressions either way on Val.In post 2217, Cephrir wrote:Seems like tictac is not going anywhere. Can I interest anyone in a val or grendel wagon? I dont think andante is playing like someone concerned about their image at all.
(also I don't think it's alignment indicative, at all, but I think it's funny how Grendel's like "LLD's name precedes her" in his first post and then is like "buhh are you someone who does gambits and targeted mind games" like...c'mon)- catboi
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I don't think playing differently = scum inherentlyIn post 2235, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Val just feels so unlike their usual self in this game.
Andante i think would always feel scummy, but it should be easier to tell if Val is town imo. So the fact that i can't here is not a good sign.- catboi
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then whoIn post 2277, Save The Dragons wrote:if tictac is scum what's up with his random vanity vote on me
i'm not feeling val either personally
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Not thrilled by either of those. I mean it's day 1 and my reads are bad, but meh. Think toog being against the grain is a towntell for him in that he's more likely to try to look town as scum. Arcade Pals posts were underwhelming but the case on Bell from dunn felt like he had ~conviction~ and all thatIn post 2284, Save The Dragons wrote:Dunn maybe or toog- catboi
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In post 1893, Grendel wrote:I started looking through both their isos, but got distracted. I'll have to pick this up tomorrow when i have some free time.- catboi
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It does, thanksIn post 2316, Ircher wrote:I think the cliff notes were something like:
MUSH --- Scum
Lambdadelta --- Town
Dunnstral --- Null
Bears --- Maybe town?
Roden --- Neutral but probably town on net
Val --- Scum
mastina --- Scum for low activity
Bell --- Null
Greeting --- Town
I have more reads, but I want to take some time to do ISOs. I've been lacking the time though. I guess this doesn't count as meaningful reads, but maybe it gives you and others a better idea of where I am at.- catboi
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If you want to scumhunt off it go aheadIn post 2393, The Three Bears wrote:
We had ooo I dunno...In post 2390, Galron wrote:Imagine being this mad over that. There were 11 of us. Start interrogating.THREEalternatives that were actually scummy.
and like I said, there's other concerns at the moment.
What I'm miffed about, is the "oh no look what we did, oh but we had to..!" attitude when tehre were better elimination options.
Also you want me to start revving up the interrogations I will. But remember you lot just asked for it though. I said I was going to have a look at the reason why, you're the ones on the defensive - and telling me far more than i've asked for.
-Pinkie the sinister bear.
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I did not receive any friendly neighbor notification.In post 2392, Ircher wrote:I targeted catboi last night. Hopefully they'll confirm receipt in their next message.- catboi
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- Flavor- The video game Control
- Number of players- 21
- Are hydras allowed (Yes/No)- Yes
- Your modding experience- Defcon 5.0, TENET, Jigsaw's Revenge, The Thing Mafia, Adventure Mafia, loads of Minis, Micros and Newbies
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- Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)- No
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DebatableIn post 2655, Save The Dragons wrote:Andante is hunting- catboi
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Nothing in particular. Vaguely got the feeling andante isn't scum, just wildly antitown. Fine with killing Ircher for science.In post 2719, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:whats ur thoughts catboi- catboi
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I was actually tilted at you tho just for different reasons, I just worked myself into a shootIn post 2884, Bell wrote:
As a master of the fake tilt what makes their current tilt real instead of that other one.In post 2883, catboi wrote:Andante tilting is frustrating but she is locktown for it, doubts have gone away
I do not think Roden arguing with Ircher is actually productive at all
But it's not in her range, the premature breakdown and randomly claiming VT just doesn't happen as scum
There's a genuine indignation to it because she gets upset at getting misread as town, she got whiny under pressure as scum in mini 2249 but it was mostly demanding people give a case on her and the like and calling their reasons garbage, I don't think it's really comparable to the outburst on the last few pages
He should provide commentary on literally anyone else (you can keep doing what you're doing)In post 2886, Ircher wrote:
Why don't you suggest more productive activities then?In post 2883, catboi wrote:Andante tilting is frustrating but she is locktown for it, doubts have gone away
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