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Post Post #1832 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:18 pm

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In post 1796, Andante wrote:Arcade, do you have like, actual reads here though?
I have a few people I'm willing to push. You're on that list right now. I haven't given the game a comprehensive read-through and I'm not likely to go over all of day 1.
Greeting wrote:
In post 1809, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1805, Greeting wrote:
In post 1755, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: arcade
In post 1756, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: arcade
In post 1758, Tet wrote:im telling.

VOTE: Arcade
What's the case?
Why do people keep asking about this but not asking for one on ircher.
Because the last time I checked the case on
Ircher
was shit and I didn't see anything with regard to it change. Hope it helped!
I'm seconding wanting to know why we should vote for Ircher
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:53 pm

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In post 1833, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Dunnstral where you the one that was posting all the time as hydra?
We were both posting, is there something you wanted specifics on?
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #2) » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 pm

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In post 1852, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Who posted the most? You or Maria?
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #3) » Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:30 pm

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Bell what is your reason for pushing my slot all game?
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #4) » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:58 pm

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In post 1882, Bell wrote:
In post 1872, Dunnstral wrote:Bell what is your reason for pushing my slot all game?
Your posts felt wrong all game.
I don't remember you ever being so vague at an end of day wagons scenario

Or putting in so little effort

In fact, if anyone is interested in looking over Bell's iso, they have spent the last ~7 real life days only pushing on two of the lurkiest slots in the game and throwing out shallow questions to look like they're doing something.

Pay attention to Bell's progression on myself and Grendel's slot. There is no progression, he never had any reasons, and now instead of being honest and saying he's voting me for lurking, he says my posts have "felt off"

VOTE: Bell
In post 1873, Andante wrote:
In post 1872, Dunnstral wrote:Bell what is your reason for pushing my slot all game?
Are you saying we should’ve TRed you?
This post is gross, it's putting words in my mouth and is trying to brush aside a pretty valid question
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:25 am

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In post 1899, Bell wrote:You lurk every game. So saying I’m voting you for lurking is just dishonest. Even as scum I would have a better reason.

Also, schools reopened this week. I’m pretty sure you’re aware of this so I have no idea why you’re trying to even push me using this angle.
Are you saying that schools opening is limiting your posting.

Here, I've got receipts. It's not t he rate of posting, it's what you choose to talk about. Here are some posts I've pulled from games from where you were town, close to the day 1 elimination:

Spoiler: Town Game 1
Subject: Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -
Bell wrote:
In post 1417, Chara wrote:Bell: i think there's a difference between your personal read on a slot and that slot being low-hanging fruit, but i'm also not sure if discussing it further would be helpful. what's your read on Whemestar?
Sure, there is definitely a difference between them, sometimes I don't choose my words carefully enough.
I am idly wondering if frequency of his votes early game is alignment indicative for him. Other wise, I he's floaty and idk.
Subject: Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -
Bell wrote:Wheme seems pretty genuine to me and I suspect half or more of the people on his wagon.
To me, it's a bad wagon. It does not help that it appears to be the most viable and *easiest* wagon with the more obvious town players being the only real objectees.
Subject: Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -
Bell wrote:I’m not a big fan of ircher’s continued push on Notty. It reeks of posturing.


Spoiler: Town Game 2
Subject: Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over
Snarky Fishes wrote:Sure. LLD died to cabd recently and they have expressed a desire to kill them and they have expressed the idea of killing players for non-alignment reasons. Since rhea is playing this game i’m not entirely sure how to weigh their analysis. Their argument appears to be that medea started out with a fall back plan in mind. They said as much initially that they were giving us meat on their role instead of other information for us to generate a town read on them(?)

Pooky is hard to read for me. I find his read accuracy as town pretty good. But he also keeps going back and forth on medea and their reasoning is somewhat unclear. Which isn’t that rare for them. But it makes it difficult for me to sheep.

-Bell.

Okay, now my meeting has actually started so I’m out. Ta ta for now.
Subject: Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over
Snarky Fishes wrote:Annie, Lukewarm and Dunnstral are my town selections for this game day.

I think Titus is scum.
You might as well have posted my thoughts out in the thread in regards to Pooky/Medea, except I'm not as worried that both are town. Though of the two I lean Medea even though Pooky is sort of limp.
But he's a teddy bear, he can't help it.

Uhh Everywhere else is kinda of up in the air. I won't lie, I'm TRing Ceph based on their approach to Medea, I'm Tring unwnd for "things scum don't or won't say.txt with a healthy dose of paranoia.

Everybody else is basically where I left them last time. Spiffeh continues to toe my scum line. Rhea is a vibe town read.

I'm independently SRIng AA9, but whatever, I'll just say I told you so if they wind up being scum this game.

-Bell


In both of these games you are still talking about stuff and considering things at about the point in the game that we're at right now.

Spoiler: This game
In post 1632, Bell wrote:*wiggles outreached fingers*

Vote Grendal, the game has stalled and I want him to claim.
He hasn't made the slot better.
In post 1641, Bell wrote:It does not directly imply it, but I find that non-posters are not gunna post no matter how much or how little everyone else posts.
In post 1643, Bell wrote:Now, how they are perceived or how much attention their posts get in a relative vacuum of activity, that's fair I guess. But it doesn't really change that they aren't posting. It's more of the equivalent of human attention span-news cycle-lurking.

But voting a lurker until morale improves is certainly not terrible at this stage of the game.
In post 1646, Bell wrote:There's almost nothing to agree or disagree with. Neither have posted much.
In post 1869, Bell wrote:
In post 1867, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:bell u should vote ircher instead

or else i will b forced to crush u like a small cartoon puppy dog and literally everyone in the game will cry
I’m okay with eliminating you if you’re wrong on Ircher.

Sound good?
In post 1882, Bell wrote:
In post 1872, Dunnstral wrote:Bell what is your reason for pushing my slot all game?
Your posts felt wrong all game.


In this game you vaguely push at lurkers in multiple posts, make threats at Mush, and simply say vote x, vote y without any reasoning.

You aren't
discussing
or
considering
anything, and it shows.
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:27 am

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That's also why I'm saying you are voting me for lurking - because you made multiple posts indicating that you were going after people for lurking. Am I misunderstanding?

We're on page 77 and the extent of your reads being "your posts felt wrong" and "lurkers bad (except me)" is really unnatural when compared side by side with your town games.
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Post Post #2077 (isolation #7) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:50 am

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In post 2063, catboi wrote:Also not really sure why Andante is getting town reads at all
I don't think their tunnel on me due to our slot voting bell "when they were leaving" is very convincing. The argument isn't good and that they haven't found anything else to talk about is bad. 3 Bears also defaults to talking about me because it feels like they have not much else to say, maybe. Bell looks scummy to me as I outlined, and yes even if you are busy Bell and putting in a different amount of effort, I feel that you are pushing me on very little with not much else for reads
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #8) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:51 am

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In post 2047, The Three Bears wrote:pretty sure i've never actually read dunn wrong before so like

-baby bear >.>
I'm pretty sure this is bogus
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Post Post #2080 (isolation #9) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:52 am

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In post 2041, The Three Bears wrote:oh wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT hold the fukc up. i just skimmed dunnstrals iso.
thats scum. can we bring that wagon back please

-baby bear
In post 2046, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 2045, catboi wrote:
In post 2041, The Three Bears wrote:oh wait wait wait wait wait wait WAIT hold the fukc up. i just skimmed dunnstrals iso.
thats scum. can we bring that wagon back please

-baby bear
Dunn's last few posts are some of the towniest posts he's ever made
NAH. nah. he's gonna flip scum. 90% certainty. im like about 2 posts away from calling him conf scum.

-baby bear
Actually, how about you explain this read?

Also, "skimming" my iso, as in not the hydra, but my 7 post iso?
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #10) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:19 am

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Galron's vote hopping is nonsense, why were they voting for me?
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Post Post #2115 (isolation #11) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:21 am

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In post 2089, catboi wrote:
In post 2077, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2063, catboi wrote:Also not really sure why Andante is getting town reads at all
I don't think their tunnel on me due to our slot voting bell "when they were leaving" is very convincing. The argument isn't good and that they haven't found anything else to talk about is bad. 3 Bears also defaults to talking about me because it feels like they have not much else to say, maybe. Bell looks scummy to me as I outlined, and yes even if you are busy Bell and putting in a different amount of effort, I feel that you are pushing me on very little with not much else for reads
I ggget what you're saying about bell but don't think it's entirely uncharacteristic for him, and, uh, his real life is kind of hell right now so I'm kind of inclined to give him a pass for that and when I looked at him there were some posts I thought were all right. I might be too attached to the idea of "Bell is psychologically incapable of posting as scum", but meh.
OK

VOTE: Andante
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #12) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:24 am

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In post 2116, Galron wrote:
In post 2113, Dunnstral wrote:Galron's vote hopping is nonsense, why were they voting for me?
Why not ask me?
I give you permission to speak
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Post Post #2141 (isolation #13) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:50 am

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Where am I 'trying to please people'?
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #14) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:51 am

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In post 2128, The Three Bears wrote:Everything here is toned down and posted with the PURPOSE of making his reads softer.
And what is this referring to?
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Post Post #2146 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:53 am

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In post 2124, Galron wrote:
In post 2121, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2116, Galron wrote:
In post 2113, Dunnstral wrote:Galron's vote hopping is nonsense, why were they voting for me?
Why not ask me?
I give you permission to speak
Thank you, Cap'n.
In post 1987, Galron wrote:
In post 1946, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 1944, Galron wrote:Andante got scummy all of a sudden
Vote Arcade, even if it's just to see what Adante does.

~Mama
Okay

VOTE: Dunnstral
This doesn't explain anything
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Post Post #2317 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:55 pm

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In post 1921, Andante wrote:I guess Dunn lives till tomorrow, but I'm not a fan of this "I only talk in quote essays cause I'm catching up" there's like no actual live interactions with anyone
Anyone can look at my iso and see how wrong this is. Or were you talking about Ircher?
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #17) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:05 pm

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Galron wrote:Don't be dense Dunn
???
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Post Post #2323 (isolation #18) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:07 pm

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In post 2302, catboi wrote:
In post 1893, Grendel wrote:I started looking through both their isos, but got distracted. I'll have to pick this up tomorrow when i have some free time.
too

VOTE: Grendel
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:08 pm

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In post 918, MegAzumarill wrote:It's because like I said I need to reread. Been dragging my feet on it
I'm really bad at managing larger games (working on it)
I'll probably catch up tonight and we'll go from there
In post 1016, SirCakez wrote:
MegAzumarill has requested replacement.
In post 1893, Grendel wrote:I started looking through both their isos, but got distracted. I'll have to pick this up tomorrow when i have some free time.
In post 2301, fferyllt wrote:
Grendel has requested replacement. Searching...
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #20) » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:15 am

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In post 2333, mastina wrote:
In post 1904, NorwegianboyEE wrote:And people actually said that the Dunnstral slot was scum.
It is tho?
Based on?
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Post Post #2343 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:26 am

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Which is what
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Post Post #2365 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:04 am

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eyes open today
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Post Post #2523 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:57 pm

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VOTE: ircher
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Post Post #2544 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:34 pm

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ok punpun
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:37 pm

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In post 2546, Bell wrote:There’s nothing to pressure, I’m town *shrug*.

Also, how does everyone know what that is manga I thought it was obscure. But everyone and their mom knows about it.
I'm a big manga reader, I got through half of it years ago
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:06 pm

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In post 2577, Andante wrote:
In post 2573, Bell wrote:I wasn’t hinting at poisoning them or w/e, I’m literally happy if they’re going to die, don’t think the poisoner is necessarily scum(depends when/if they claim), and so on.
if I claimed poisoner, does that automatically make it a scum role?
In post 2584, Andante wrote:Bears won't die, they just change alignments lol

???

Claim?
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Post Post #2699 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:50 am

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In post 1301, Andante wrote:I'm not saying I'm confident in this at all, but here's roughly the reads

Definitely town: Andante Dwlee99

Probably Town:
MUSHSHAGANA
Bell
Cephrir
The Three Bears (Titus, Flea the Magician, Noraa)
Save The Dragons

Probably not town:
Ircher - I know there's more Ircher lines I never read though, I keep meaning to ISO.. but I don't so rip
NorwegianboyEE
Arcade Pals (Dunnstral, MariaR)


idk who this is:
Lady Lambdadelta
Galron
Roden
Malakittens
Mastina
TheWayItEnds Princess Elodie
Tet
Grendel MegAzumarill
tictac
Toogeloo
Val89 T3
Greeting


lol update: that was like a waste of time
In post 2363, Andante wrote:VOTE: Malakittens
In post 2611, Andante wrote:Mala is definitely still maf. Mala + Dunn
This is their lack of progression on Malakittens
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Post Post #2700 (isolation #28) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:51 am

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In post 2698, Andante wrote:debating me going hunting? nice!! well we found mala and Dunn, need like 4-5 more yeah?
7 scum?
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Post Post #2705 (isolation #29) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:00 am

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In post 2703, Andante wrote:not sure why you're trying to say there's more to it than there is? look at mala's ISO and tell me it's town.
You went from saying "who is this" to naked voting to saying mala is
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Post Post #2706 (isolation #30) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:00 am

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In post 2701, Andante wrote:sure lol what's wrong with 7? Someone threw it out as probably a joke, so I'm rolling with it, no clue how many scum, probably more likely only 4-5 total, but just calling it 7 is fun :)
That's way too many and I don't believe that you can think that there would be that many mafia
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #31) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:38 am

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In post 2711, Save The Dragons wrote:it's actually really easy to see andante's progression on malakittens
quote it then
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Post Post #2784 (isolation #32) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:12 pm

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In post 2757, Tet wrote:Add on to that the fact that Andante was the next neck up after irchers claim so that would play into their favor a bit.
You are forgetting that I was the counter wagon, not andante, for most of the day
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Post Post #2785 (isolation #33) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:15 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 1828, fferyllt wrote:
Votecount 1.8

(flavor images suspended until SirCakez is back)

"I can hear the Hotline ringing in my dreams, constantly ringing. Ringing so loud I can't hear the voice I'm straining to understand."


Ircher (5) - MUSHSHAGANA, mastina, NorwegianboyEE, Toogeloo, Roden
Arcade Pals (5) - The Three Bears, Andante, Cephrir, Save the Dragons, Tet
Grendel (3) - Ircher, Bell, Greeting
Roden (2) - Arcade Pals, Val89
Save the Dragons (1) - tictac

Not voting (4) - Malakittens, Galron, TheWayItEnds, Lady Lambdadelta

(expired on 2022-01-19 23:12:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

Mastina is V/LA through January 13.
In post 1983, fferyllt wrote:
Votecount 1.9

(flavor images suspended until SirCakez is back)

Ircher (9) - MUSHSHAGANA, mastina, NorwegianboyEE, Toogeloo, Roden, Val89, Andante, Bell, Save The Dragons
Dunnstral (2) - The Three Bears, Tet
Grendel (2) - Ircher, Greeting
Roden (1) - Dunnstral
Save the Dragons (1) - tictac

Not voting (6) - Malakittens, Galron, TheWayItEnds, Lady Lambdadelta, Grendel, Cephrir

(expired on 2022-01-19 23:12:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

Please let me know if you see any errors with this count!
In post 2029, fferyllt wrote:
Votecount 1.10

(flavor images suspended until SirCakez is back)

Ircher (10) - MUSHSHAGANA, mastina, NorwegianboyEE, Toogeloo, Roden, Val89, Andante, Bell, Save The Dragons, Three Bears
Dunnstral (3) - The Three Bears, Tet, Galron
Grendel (2) - Ircher, Greeting
Roden (1) - Dunnstral
Andante (1) - tictac

Not voting (5) - Malakittens, TheWayItEnds, Lady Lambdadelta, Grendel, Cephrir

(expired on 2022-01-20 11:12:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

Please let me know if you see any errors with this count!


Andante clearly wasn't being voted
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Post Post #2832 (isolation #34) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:21 pm

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In post 2830, Tet wrote:I mean, if you want to convince me that me and bears are scum ...go for it I guess?
That wasn't your original argument and you know it
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Post Post #2839 (isolation #35) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:35 pm

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In post 2834, Tet wrote:
In post 2832, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2830, Tet wrote:I mean, if you want to convince me that me and bears are scum ...go for it I guess?
That wasn't your original argument and you know it
Andante and ircher being rivalling counter wagons wasn't my original argument either.
What were you saying then?
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Post Post #2842 (isolation #36) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:36 pm

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In post 2836, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Dunnstral, can I impose upon you to actually produce fucking content? Alignment indicative not on the defensive please and thank you.
The majority of my content has been on the offense rather than on the defense.

Bell, Andante, Bears all started voting me after I initially pushed them.
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Post Post #2845 (isolation #37) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:38 pm

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Not andante, I may have been thinking of someone else
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Post Post #2851 (isolation #38) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:41 pm

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In post 2846, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:If you call that pushing, Dunn, I'm a playground bully who has shoved every slot in the game. You barely gave them a mean glare.

No good. Try again.
I've gone into detail on all of them, pointing to their own posts. I'm not concerned about bears anymore with the mush thing
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #39) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:49 pm

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In post 2853, Bell wrote:
In post 2850, Ircher wrote:
In post 2847, Bell wrote:*raises finger to point out that omgus is commonly town*
Does it indicate a greater than rand chance of being town? I don't think so, but you are welcome to cite the relevant statistical literature and prove me wrong.
No. I don’t mean to say that town are more or less likely to omgus, just that it’s close to NAI unless you get into specifics, but even then it gets hazy pretty quick when it’s all based on supposition.
I wasn't saying that the omgus was scummy, I was saying that I wasn't on the defensive.
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Post Post #2902 (isolation #40) » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:06 pm

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I disagree, if they are both mafia then the majority of remaining votes belong to the town, so the voters pivoting means very little as it is mostly town driven
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Post Post #2929 (isolation #41) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:28 am

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Ircher's role mentions factional kill (+strongman) which disproves the theory that scum use the moss as their factional poison/kill

And today two people are dead, and Bears is alive

And the moss seems suspicious from a flavor point of view, it's hard to imagine that from a town role - I haven't played the game though.
Who is mossed today?
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Post Post #2931 (isolation #42) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:29 am

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In post 2927, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm guessing strongman wasn't used by Ircher the first night. So it makes more sense scum wanted to defend him.
He was being defended day 1
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Post Post #2936 (isolation #43) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:35 am

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Also tictac is claiming ascetic
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Post Post #2941 (isolation #44) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:38 am

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In post 2937, Tet wrote:what does that have to do with andante?
I thought it was relevant, at least
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Post Post #2944 (isolation #45) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:39 am

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In post 2939, The Three Bears wrote:Look at Dunn shading us right into day 3 lol.
I'm not
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Post Post #2951 (isolation #46) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:41 am

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In post 2938, Andante wrote:
In post 2933, Tet wrote:Andante I want you to claim ascetic/not ascetic.
I don't even know what that is tbh
This is a bold faced lie.
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Post Post #2971 (isolation #47) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:50 am

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In post 2952, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:hi

val was green what the FUCK

andante ur scumfuck pls get in pile i will deal w u in time

top suspects rn: bears, dunn, twie -- HI tet ur right n u should say it. whos our overlooked slot cuz someones our overlooked slot someone figure this out for me thank u

val green makes d1 wagon oh so fresh n clean what the gibbering FUUUUUUUUCK omg this fuckin w me
I'm not scum with andante + bears by the way
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Post Post #2994 (isolation #48) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:57 am

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VOTE: TheWayItEnds
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Post Post #3017 (isolation #49) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:05 am

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In post 3004, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:food 4 thought 2nite:

grendel val green, reread d1 w that in mind what stands out?????
I think that this vc is interesting:

Spoiler: 1.7
In post 1706, SirCakez wrote:
Votecount 1.7

Image

"I can hear the Hotline ringing in my dreams, constantly ringing. Ringing so loud I can't hear the voice I'm straining to understand."


Ircher (7) - MUSHSHAGANA, mastina, Save the Dragons, Cephrir, NorwegianboyEE, Toogeloo, Roden
Grendel (4) - Tet, Ircher, Bell, Andante
Roden (2) - Arcade Pals, Val89
Arcade Pals (1) - The Three Bears
Val89 (1) - Greeting
Save the Dragons (1) - tictac
NorwegianboyEE (1) - Grendel

Not voting (4) - Malakittens, Galron, TheWayItEnds, Lady Lambdadelta

(expired on 2022-01-19 23:12:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

Mastina is V/LA through January 13.


It is before the friendly neighbor claim
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Post Post #3022 (isolation #50) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:07 am

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Title: Mafia Scum
Avatar: Wolf

Need I say more?
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Post Post #3026 (isolation #51) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:09 am

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In post 3024, The Three Bears wrote:dunn is showing literally every single scum tell he has ever had in this game.
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Post Post #3041 (isolation #52) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:20 am

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In post 3029, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 3026, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3024, The Three Bears wrote:dunn is showing literally every single scum tell he has ever had in this game.
name 1
ur being overly deferential
In post 3030, The Three Bears wrote:town dunn has so much more snark. this is not town dunn. heck no.
This isn't true. As in, this isn't my meta...
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Post Post #3043 (isolation #53) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:22 am

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In post 3037, Andante wrote:I think I SRed early ircher posts too, so uhh at least 1 partner was definitely on team "BUS IRCHER!"
What is the connection between you sring ircher and mafia bussing?
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Post Post #3045 (isolation #54) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:22 am

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Or are you literally claiming mafia
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Post Post #3060 (isolation #55) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:36 am

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In post 3058, Bell wrote:
In post 3056, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 3041, Dunnstral wrote:This isn't true. As in, this isn't my meta...
oh yes it is. I caught you in your last scum game for this EXACT reason. Did you forget that?
I probably shouldn't step in here, but I would like to press skip here because Dunnstrall is never going to say he was caught for the right reasons.
Uhhh, what
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Post Post #3204 (isolation #56) » Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:23 pm

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In post 3202, Toogeloo wrote:The TV is one of Jesse's Objects of Power after she contains it, and almost all of the Objects of Power in the game need to be contained or cleansed.
So any object of power can be any alignment

Any any character can be a fake claim
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Post Post #3480 (isolation #57) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:43 am

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Claimed flavor, not actual flavor. The flavor cop was probably more like an actual cop.

Looking over Tet's start of day 2, it looks to me like they had a (soft) guilty on Ircher.
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Post Post #3483 (isolation #58) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:45 am

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In post 3469, Tet wrote:Mush you get permission to side-eye bears when I flip. You'll know why.

Also toog, if he doesn't then you might have to worry there too.
Actually, I think this means that Tet checked bears night 1 and they had suspicious flavor.

VOTE: The Three Bears

Claim flavor please
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Post Post #3486 (isolation #59) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:48 am

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In post 2188, Tet wrote:Also your insistence that flavor is irrelevant is weird. It's like the third time you brought it up. If you want to claim something just claim it.
This was @ bears
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Post Post #3487 (isolation #60) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:48 am

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In post 3485, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:i think ur wrong dunn. bears just screamin flavor not important flavor useless flavor doesnt mean anything I THINK U ARE WRONG

anyway nah i wanna kill ceph.
So do you think Tet checked Ircher night 1 instead?
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Post Post #3490 (isolation #61) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:52 am

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In post 3488, catboi wrote:I reread a little and my general POE is galron/ceph/roden/norwee/dunn/mastina

Hopefully a few scum in there
I thought I was unlikely to be scum to you?
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Post Post #3491 (isolation #62) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:52 am

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In post 3489, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:??? no i think u r reaching LOL
Do you think that that is an unreasonable conclusion for me to reach?

What do you think is a better one?
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Post Post #3493 (isolation #63) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:55 am

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In post 3492, catboi wrote:
In post 3490, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3488, catboi wrote:I reread a little and my general POE is galron/ceph/roden/norwee/dunn/mastina

Hopefully a few scum in there
I thought I was unlikely to be scum to you?
Opinions change
And why is that?
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Post Post #3497 (isolation #64) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:57 am

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In post 3494, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:dunn i think its kinda useless? n baseless spec??? tet was dying no matter what cuz townie as fuck n not as much a hot mess as us. n like yea maybe guiltied ircher -- IRCHER DIED what do u hope 2 get from that info it does nothin today LOL
If we consider that their role is similar to a regular cop, then they likely had a guilty or an innocent on night 1. That isn't useless, that is information that is worth looking into, and I'm not sure why you are brushing it aside. If it was Ircher, we don't have any new information. If it was Bears, they are probably scum.

Or do you think that flavor is still not important?
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Post Post #3502 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:02 am

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Which hydra posts are you referring to?
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Post Post #3503 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:03 am

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In post 3499, catboi wrote:Flavor cop says "apparent identity" and no doubt scum are going to scan as whatever their fakeclaim is?
I hadn't considered this
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Post Post #3504 (isolation #67) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:05 am

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In post 3500, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:...if it wasnt irch we dont exactly got anything pointing at n1 target so it DOESNT MATTER like ????

ur trying 2 turn this in 2 a bears push in the weirdest n most desperate fuckin way like bears scummy on their own merits rn why do u need 2 make up a reason.
How do we know we don't have anything if we don't even try?

I'm willing to be wrong if you explain how.
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Post Post #3507 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:10 am

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I quoted a post that can be interpreted as a soft while doing a basic post-flip check of the dead power role and you started throwing all caps at me and accusing me of orchestrating some kind of push instead of assuming that I'm just solving normally. Like, I'm not dead set on the theory that Bears was the target, or that the role works like I thought it did, I don't see how naked voting people at the start of
day 4
without explanation is somehow morally superior to what I'm doing. You're the one that needs to "chill" right now.
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Post Post #3517 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:31 am

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In post 3516, tictac wrote:(ircher &
mariar
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What am I, dried paint?
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Post Post #3523 (isolation #70) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:37 am

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What info would my elimination reveal based on the vca you quoted?
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Post Post #3526 (isolation #71) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:40 am

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In post 3434, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3427, TheWayItEnds wrote:right im caught scum for thinking that eating RBs or getting a confirmed town is more positive EV than lynching my slight scum read

i member
Reminder that "lynch" is no longer an acceptable term for mafia.
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Post Post #3531 (isolation #72) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:44 am

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In post 3527, catboi wrote:The likeliest places for scum are people who were either unnaturally confident in Ircher flipping scum
I agree with this

I still think there wasn't a very strong reason to be pushing Ircher on day 1, but IIRC people were acting like it was obvious and I didn't want to vote that

That's also why I think it's unfair for you to say my hydra had "bad" posts towards Ircher, I assume you're talking about the post where we say there wasn't a good reason to vote Ircher and instead voted Roden?
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Post Post #3532 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:45 am

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In post 3528, The Three Bears wrote:Fair position but disagree. Janitor, without information, doesn't hide much useful. However, that's a strategic debate and can make a bit of sense.
How can you disagree when the night 1 kill didn't happen?
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:54 am

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In post 3536, The Three Bears wrote:Dunn/catboi, Thoughts on Toog?

Gtg

~Mama
I don't have a strong opinion but leaning town based just off of tone and feelings
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Post Post #4054 (isolation #75) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:45 pm

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In post 4037, Toogeloo wrote:So... I have a theory...

I think mold was an attempt to janitor The Bears, but the kill was protected by LLD. The kill was stopped, but the mold was a clue that they were being targeted. I think mastina is using the mold as an attempt to get town cred.
We have Ircher's flip, it doesn't say anything about mold, and the flavor doesn't match
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Post Post #4070 (isolation #76) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:27 pm

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In post 4068, Bell wrote:And, if I were scum, I can just blame it on you if you’re wrong!
It didn’t work with Mush but maybe this time!

Oh no, did I say that out loud.
I'll be that guy: awkward post
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Post Post #4073 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:33 pm

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In post 4071, Bell wrote:Thanks for being that guy Dunn.
Pathfinder earns you points though, my favorite rpg. And enjoying the newest video game too.
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Post Post #4082 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:50 pm

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I'm always town, ask toog
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #79) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:55 pm

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I'm interested in voting Roden.

I remember not liking them early, and then mostly forgetting about what they've done later.
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Post Post #4092 (isolation #80) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:01 pm

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In post 4086, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 4082, Dunnstral wrote:I'm always town, ask toog
mhm. then what do you think about me? what's my alignment?

-noraa
I've been waffling, despite what Mushshanga would have you believe I'm not locked into the idea that Tet checked you.

I don't agree that Andante is town. They seem transparently scum to me. To that extent I guess Roden isn't my preferred wagon today, but I'm not going to fight against it.

It is amusing to me that after ~15 pages of nonsense between you and Cephrir, they revealed that the big thing they saw was what I was already talking about ~18 pages ago anyway, down to the letter.

I didn't find what Titus was doing with vca and me/toog to be towny. Especially because the vca shows your slot and Tet on the wagon that you say will be good for information.
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Post Post #4093 (isolation #81) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:04 pm

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I've responded to you plenty. I don't have the energy to compete with three different people name dropping me over 150 times.

You bring up an argument, and then while that is being argued against as nonsense, you've already started to bring up a different argument, and then you're working on another one. All nonsense, but you flood the thread and make it impossible to engage. So like, you do you, I think that's a slimy tactic, I'm not going to let you act like I'm not responding to you
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Post Post #4095 (isolation #82) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:09 pm

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In post 4086, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 4082, Dunnstral wrote:I'm always town, ask toog
mhm. then what do you think about me? what's my alignment?

-noraa
In post 4088, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 4087, Dunnstral wrote:I'm interested in voting Roden.

I remember not liking them early, and then mostly forgetting about what they've done later.
what alignment am i?

-noraa
In post 4091, The Three Bears wrote: 2) what do you think my alignment is? you seem very waffley on it
Chill out
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Post Post #4098 (isolation #83) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:16 pm

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I am of the opinion that Andante's stance on Malakittens was scummy. And also that their weird sort of mafia claim yesterday was never really explained, just followed up with AtE/Widom
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Post Post #4102 (isolation #84) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:27 pm

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In post 2711, Save The Dragons wrote:it's actually really easy to see andante's progression on malakittens
In post 2713, Save The Dragons wrote:she voted then said she was mafia
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Post Post #4106 (isolation #85) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:02 pm

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In post 4105, Roden wrote:Why are both you and STD ignoring the fact that Ircher and I went at each other D1 and D2?
And that I pretty heavily softed how I knew that Ircher hadn't been Roleblocked?
What are you claiming here?
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Post Post #4109 (isolation #86) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:06 pm

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I'm not voting you, actually. And I'm not blindly sheeping regardless.
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Post Post #4110 (isolation #87) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:08 pm

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Did you target Tet last night?
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Post Post #4111 (isolation #88) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:10 pm

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VOTE: Andante

Moving my vote where my mouth is, will continue to consider Roden claim.
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Post Post #4116 (isolation #89) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:27 pm

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In post 4110, Dunnstral wrote:Did you target Tet last night?
I'm picking up what you are putting down but don't understand this part
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Post Post #4149 (isolation #90) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:30 am

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In post 4136, The Three Bears wrote: Don't try me Catboi, cause I can play your game and better than you can. You may be able to create a toxic environment but I can thrive in it.
very cool
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Post Post #4161 (isolation #91) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:32 am

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I tried
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Post Post #4165 (isolation #92) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:38 am

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In post 4163, Bell wrote:How’d that go?
I got yelled at and called opportunistic, and then somebody else made the same argument as me 15 pages later and got called town

But as for my findings: I think they either checked Ircher or Bears due to these posts:

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In post 2409, Tet wrote:Norwee we aren't doing this.

VOTE: Ircher

Everyone shuts up about night actions and we go next.
This is their first post that isn't talking about the previous elim
In post 3469, Tet wrote:Mush you get permission to side-eye bears when I flip. You'll know why.

Also toog, if he doesn't then you might have to worry there too.
This is their last post


And I'm not seeing arguments for Tet checking anybody else, even though it was asked for multiple times.

Right now I think it is most likely that they simply checked Ircher, which gives us no new information
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Post Post #4452 (isolation #93) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:37 pm

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I am the townie that killed val :roll:

Can we get Andante now? I don't even know why people are voting for me.
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Post Post #6729 (isolation #94) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:14 pm

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In post 6666, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Scum had an doctor? Now that’s extremely annoying.
I wanted everyone to die and the setup screws me over like that.
A doctor which targeted me, which I copied for a second doctor each night
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Post Post #6730 (isolation #95) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:23 pm

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What happened night 7? Galron thought he targeted Roden, but he apparently didn't submit anything
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Post Post #6732 (isolation #96) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:45 pm

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In post 5150, Roden wrote:Dunn also hinted that the Mold actually is a scum ability.
In post 5765, mastina wrote:Toogeloo was apparently molded on N5. Dunnstral is claiming that it's mylo. (Not quite the word used, message used a more "modern" term but I'm paraphrasing here.)
Don't listen to dead flipped scum
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Post Post #6747 (isolation #97) » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:49 pm

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Galron, were you trying to fool me and Ircher into thinking Roden was 3p, thinking we might have a way to communicate with our team?
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