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Post Post #1230 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:37 pm

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Hey hey haven’t read. My other game just ended and this was on the replace queue. :) seemed small enough to be manageable.

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Post Post #1232 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:37 pm

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In post 1229, House wrote:Yay, it's Towniest Town that ever Towned!
That’s only on my read walls but thanks for the laugh. You can have a townlean for that.
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #2) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:39 pm

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In post 1231, VP Baltar wrote:I'm going to go to the bar, but food for thought: I don't think Lap's wagon was pure and A50 wasn't the scum on it.
Looking at the OP it says the mafia was a goon so probably in the front half and planned bus would be where I would start.
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #3) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:41 pm

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In post 1234, House wrote:
In post 1230, MathBlade wrote:Hey hey haven’t read. My other game just ended and this was on the replace queue. :) seemed small enough to be manageable.

Anyone wanna tldr?
RTP obvtowned himself so much he got nk'ed over claimed Masons.

I retracted my claim of Masons with innocentvillager at the beginning of the day (that he confirmed on d1 after I claimed)

Scum flipped after I prevented iv's wagon from taking off.
Why did you claim masons with IV? Just the wagon? (Asking to see if I can find the narrative I know you claim masons a lot. Hell your phone even did it in Shadowrun lmao)
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #4) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:42 pm

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In post 1236, Aristeia wrote:Hi Mathblade!

Good to see you again
Hi Ari!

Nice to be town this game! I hope to get to sort you proper this game you seem really nice!
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:43 pm

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In post 1238, House wrote:
In post 1237, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1234, House wrote:
In post 1230, MathBlade wrote:Hey hey haven’t read. My other game just ended and this was on the replace queue. :) seemed small enough to be manageable.

Anyone wanna tldr?
RTP obvtowned himself so much he got nk'ed over claimed Masons.

I retracted my claim of Masons with innocentvillager at the beginning of the day (that he confirmed on d1 after I claimed)

Scum flipped after I prevented iv's wagon from taking off.
Why did you claim masons with IV? Just the wagon? (Asking to see if I can find the narrative I know you claim masons a lot. Hell your phone even did it in Shadowrun lmao)
I townread him & didn't want him killed on d1.

That simple, really
Guess I should look for the commonality of both?
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #6) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:46 pm

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Fair but it’s you House. You gambit for lols sometimes. So gotta do my diligence for if you’re scum or wrong.

So I am treating it as an important event for VCA nothing more.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #7) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:47 pm

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In post 1240, Aristeia wrote:awww

thanks
What are your thoughts on the game?
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #8) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:51 pm

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In post 1014, House wrote:
In post 1012, Frogsterking wrote:tl;dr :
Don't give a shit.

VOTE: Frogsterking

Can't say you weren't warned.

Hardclaim Masons with innocentvillager


Softed on page 1 & my reads list (same green color code for me and iv, different code for other hard townreads). Interactions between us show familiarity when I've never been in a game with them. They call me town but don't justify it, unlike their other townreads.

iv didn't want me to out on d1 and one of our earlier public interactions was him trying to discourage me from it when I mentioned in Mason chat that it would suck to out early.

Your chainsaw came back to bite you in the ass. Lap & Frog are scum together.
For my notes later.

Still think Froggy is red with Lap being red?
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #9) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:53 pm

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In post 1111, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:
In post 1095, VP Baltar wrote:Intent to hammer laplacian. Claim.
No one cares what they claim rofl
In post 1112, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:You of all people would understand this if you were town
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #10) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:56 pm

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In post 1249, House wrote:
In post 1247, MathBlade wrote:For my notes later.

Still think Froggy is red with Lap being red?
I dunno.

I'm inclined to sheep RTP, and he ended d1 calling VP scum.
Seems an odd stance to instantly push Datisi today if scum. Datisi is a hard miselim if town. I kinda think if VP is scum it’s with Dat probably but if VP is town Dat might need a looking into.

At the same time RTP vetoed a Datisi elim.

Seems just odd and I don’t know what to make of it
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:01 pm

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In post 1254, House wrote:
In post 1253, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1249, House wrote:
In post 1247, MathBlade wrote:For my notes later.

Still think Froggy is red with Lap being red?
I dunno.

I'm inclined to sheep RTP, and he ended d1 calling VP scum.
Seems an odd stance to instantly push Datisi today if scum. Datisi is a hard miselim if town. I kinda think if VP is scum it’s with Dat probably but if VP is town Dat might need a looking into.

At the same time RTP vetoed a Datisi elim.

Seems just odd and I don’t know what to make of it
It's possible your first assumption is simply inaccurate. *shrug*
You mean that Datisi is an easy miselim?

Nah I tried pushing him when I was scum practically alone in a game where it was me and NM for the most part and NM forgot to kill or do shit and protector intentionally null submitted lols. Or maybe that was the other game either way Datisi isn’t a token push.

Datisi when he tries is a hard to
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #12) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:01 pm

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In post 1255, House wrote:Or, sometimes scum makes pushes they don't actually *expect* to go anywhere, just to look busy.
Possible but not probable. If VP is scum he’s need towncred and fast. It’s a weak manuever
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #13) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:02 pm

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In post 1256, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1252, House wrote:If you're sheeping RTP, why isn't S_S a townread?

Because I don't town-read S_S.

It's also irrelevant if RTP is right about the last two mafia.
Whoelse did RTP want besides VP? Help me out please
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #14) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:10 pm

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That would require reading it once lol.

I am kinda hunting for vibes then going to read it Saturday if it’s quiet.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #15) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:12 pm

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In post 1261, Aristeia wrote:
In post 930, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:btw i think

if a50 flips town

skitter is massively sus for trying to defend lap in the way they are


its like active discouragement of a wagon you supposedly dont care about


but also ive seen skitter have a game where they were way off (chain of command) so wee
In post 905, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:VP IS FUCKJNG SCUM
In post 755, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:VP is trying to discredit my read on laplacian by attaching it to something irrelevant (my read on IV)
Its pretty clear but my read on IV did soften once i saw them post a lot more.
It's not easy for me to abandon solves i have felt high confidence on due to ego. Obviously i pivoted to laplacian because a) people werent seeing him as scum anymore b) he eas posting more robust thoughts

VP is trying to subtly plant the idea that im scummy for this without directly pushing me because his team is probably in a shit spot because I PoEd them all fast
Shrug

I'm unlikely to unvote laplacian here

you should probably re-read Day1 it's not that long.
It’s odd Skitter hasn’t said hi yet. Iirc she’s vocal unless her meta has changed
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #16) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:19 pm

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Nah. I have been on hiatus and I play the game for fun.

You’re more than welcome to push me if you have issues but I would rather just chill and get vibes and then compare to VCs and see what’s in and out of place.
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #17) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:20 pm

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I will read when I want :)
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:21 pm

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The cog dis of that post is really weird.

How can I be the best thing to happen to town and be scum Frog?
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:23 pm

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I think I don’t know enough to answer

Assuming for case and point House /IV has no scum in it >> scum think mason claim is genuine and shoot outside to avoid possible protects?
Assuming House / IV has one scum only >> scum shoot outside masons claim
Assuming both scum >> def outside

So seems more a traditional why was RTP shot?
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:25 pm

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In post 1273, Frogsterking wrote:
I'm curious what kind of an environment the game needs to be in for RTP to eat the night kill and for the scum to get executed successfully D1? Especially if a50 was also scum what it was that could have lead to a scum v scum BWs on D1?
1275 is the answer to that.

Since I am not scum and haven’t read attempting to answer the latter is kinda pointless? I have no idea
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:26 pm

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In post 1276, House wrote:
In post 1273, Frogsterking wrote:
I'm curious what kind of an environment the game needs to be in for RTP to eat the night kill and for the scum to get executed successfully D1? Especially if a50 was also scum what it was that could have lead to a scum v scum BWs on D1?
RTP had a lim boner for VP Baltar.

I want to avenge his death.
I could see a VP+Frog and just was a poor timed/executed push on Dat.
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:27 pm

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In post 1279, House wrote:
In post 1275, MathBlade wrote:Assuming both scum >>
That would be a blatantly incompetent assumption.

There's no world where scum A fakeclaims Masons with scum B AND sacrifices scum C.

That's a recipe for scum loss, because both iv and I aren't going to make it to ELO.
Agreed
It’s more just covering all possibilities.
Either there’s 0,1,or 2 scum between you
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:52 pm

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I mean lol okay.

House is Frog too scummy to be scum here?

Or is Frog trying to deflect a VP elim?
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:57 pm

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Oh yeah absolutely

More just Frog doesn’t sit right with me.

Can’t get a beat on Skitter til she gets back.
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:00 pm

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In post 1288, House wrote:
In post 1287, MathBlade wrote:Can’t get a beat on Skitter til she gets back.
Might as well either read d1 or at least ISO people to get feels, then.
It’s why I am quiet dude lol
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:34 pm

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In post 1296, Frogsterking wrote:I'm considering a Lap/VP/Math (a50) team that went for RTP as a hail Mary for the possibility RTP was both pushing them and also town's only investigative pr and they could dig themselves out. And now thescum morale is low and VP has given up, and Math replaced into this terrible position and is just stalling trying to figure out what they're supposed to do.
Lol at this. My scum game is feared for a reason.
My town game usually is except on MS.

Like I mean you can push it but it’s fundamentally wrong. Like I just need to get into scum’s psyche and they’re good as dead.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:35 pm

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There isn’t a “figure out what to do” ever for me as scum and it just demonstrates you likely don’t know me and if you’re scum neither do your buddies
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:40 pm

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In post 1299, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1297, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1296, Frogsterking wrote:I'm considering a Lap/VP/Math (a50) team that went for RTP as a hail Mary for the possibility RTP was both pushing them and also town's only investigative pr and they could dig themselves out. And now thescum morale is low and VP has given up, and Math replaced into this terrible position and is just stalling trying to figure out what they're supposed to do.
Lol at this. My scum game is feared for a reason.
My town game usually is except on MS.

Like I mean you can push it but it’s fundamentally wrong. Like I just need to get into scum’s psyche and they’re good as dead.
Are you an EM player?
I have played on so many sites with so many handles. Epic mafia if you mean that is one of the few I either didn’t or one game on
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:40 pm

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In post 1299, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1297, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1296, Frogsterking wrote:I'm considering a Lap/VP/Math (a50) team that went for RTP as a hail Mary for the possibility RTP was both pushing them and also town's only investigative pr and they could dig themselves out. And now thescum morale is low and VP has given up, and Math replaced into this terrible position and is just stalling trying to figure out what they're supposed to do.
Lol at this. My scum game is feared for a reason.
My town game usually is except on MS.

Like I mean you can push it but it’s fundamentally wrong. Like I just need to get into scum’s psyche and they’re good as dead.
Are you an EM player?
I have played on so many sites with so many handles. Epic mafia if you mean that is one of the few I either didn’t or one game on
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:58 pm

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In post 1307, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1305, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1299, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1297, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1296, Frogsterking wrote:I'm considering a Lap/VP/Math (a50) team that went for RTP as a hail Mary for the possibility RTP was both pushing them and also town's only investigative pr and they could dig themselves out. And now thescum morale is low and VP has given up, and Math replaced into this terrible position and is just stalling trying to figure out what they're supposed to do.
Lol at this. My scum game is feared for a reason.
My town game usually is except on MS.

Like I mean you can push it but it’s fundamentally wrong. Like I just need to get into scum’s psyche and they’re good as dead.
Are you an EM player?
I have played on so many sites with so many handles. Epic mafia if you mean that is one of the few I either didn’t or one game on
So you feel confident you could attempt to solo carry if you had replaced into the situation I described where Lap got taken out D1, scum missed their pr hit N1, and your buddy was about to get executed and had given up?
Not only could I, I have.

I am the type of player as scum to get strongman killed in multiball for being “too town”.

It’s a hallmark.

Like if you’re scum you’re barking up the wrong tree.
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:01 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=87020

Most recent game with similar scenario.

Had to take the cop to elo and had a guilty on me and still won.

Like seriously I am good at finding the motivations even if I am bad at finding the exact person but figuring out what scum are doing is fun when I have time to do so.
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:05 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... technology

I mean here I had to shoot my traitor and was like 2 v 13 with my buddy always at the bottom of the PoE.

I am good at scum because scum isn’t about a specific plan or target.

It’s about giving towns what they want and making them miselim town.

Because scum was elimmed d1 it’s either a bus or uninfluencial or new scum.

Just need to figure out who and why by interactions
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:21 pm

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In post 1320, Aristeia wrote:I have trouble with coming up with a scum team that decides to bigbrain shoot RTP in order to frame Baltar rather than just let RTP live and death-tunnel Baltar into the ground
I think we should after VP flips get an idea of why the nightkill happened.

VP needs to get in here and town it up.

Given the setup doesn’t allow for multitasking and that the elim flipped goon we may be in that scenario. Mainly still getting vibes but on paper D1 was almost certainly a bus with at least one buddy on.
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:21 pm

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In post 1324, House wrote:
In post 1322, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1317, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1314, Frogsterking wrote:There is something related to this I want to bring up later on D2 actually.

I just looked through your iso for your reads and I saw you had skitter as a nullscum on your reads list, do you want to elaborate on your read of skitter at all?

PEdit: Okay it sounds like this is more along the lines of what you expect from town!Math.
no my read on the slot is based on how I believe A50 plays

Mathblade is a much stronger scum player than A50.

I think skitter's iso leans more towards scum than not, it felt somewhat strange for her to not have concrete thoughts about how the d1 elim went.
I have been wondering if skitter's play in this game is typical of her town game.

PEdit:

My best guess was that it was optimistic and the scum team felt pressure from RTP and maybe convinced themselves RTP was also the pr.

IDK could you see S_S and skitter deciding to do it?

RTP said they might FoS skitter if Lap was scum and a50 was town.
You seen pretty resistant to considering VP Baltar as scum.
No fair idea stealer!
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:23 pm

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Nom nom nom good cookies. Don’t mind me I am the Cookie Monster.
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:32 pm

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In post 1335, VP Baltar wrote:I am at the bar and not reading the thread tonight. In case it wasn't clear, Mathblade is confirmed town. Also, we are not yeeting me today.
100% not going there. I get why you think so, but we aren’t going there and will explain post game.
Enjoy your drinks, but I think we need something to not yeet you.
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Post Post #1340 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:33 pm

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In post 1338, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1336, VP Baltar wrote:Ari and datisi are the most likely candidates for scum.
I'll put you at e-1 if you don't case it now.
And then you die because you never ever stop scum spew so if VP is town or scum never cut off discussion
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:36 pm

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In post 1342, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1333, House wrote:
In post 1332, Aristeia wrote:I would be incredibly impressed if Frogster was mafia here. I don't see how he endgames as it would be weird for him to be alive anywhere near the end.
I'm not calling him Mafia. I'm scolding him for being an obstacle to a scum flip.
I don't think he's being an obstacle to a scum flip - he just wants to take his time and that's important in games that seem
too easy
Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #39) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:41 pm

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In post 1344, House wrote:So, either VP is scum clearing a townie that was set up to be an easy target for shade due to A50's d1, or he's town pr that checked a player he was crowing as scum at the end of d1 & flipped his read on d2 after getting his result.

Stay tuned!
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:44 pm

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In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #41) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:45 pm

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In post 1351, House wrote:
In post 1348, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1344, House wrote:So, either VP is scum clearing a townie that was set up to be an easy target for shade due to A50's d1, or he's town pr that checked a player he was crowing as scum at the end of d1 & flipped his read on d2 after getting his result.

Stay tuned!
Nope. I think I get the vibe. I don’t think this is worth getting into now. If you townread me, trust me enough to say let’s not poke this and pretend we did.
If people are going to soft like an anvil, I'm just going to bring it to the fore because if I caught it when I don't even look for these things, I know scum already knows.
Cool. Keep looking for a blacksmith that doesn’t exist.
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #42) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:48 pm

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In post 1355, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
What about Ari's vibe?
I’ve never had a game with town Ari or at least the town Ari account so more getting a sense.

I promise to share reads when I have them.

If I have to put them in a town block I would but I am not sure how far that would roll and it would depend on a few things if I understand them right.
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #43) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 1356, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1352, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1349, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1343, MathBlade wrote:Not so sure VP is scum tbh. They aren’t giving me dead scum vibes. So help an ol foagie out and let him talk
How familiar are you with VPB scum?
Never played with them. Just don’t feel they’re scum. And if they are they don’t feel trapped. So it’s more how they posted thing.
I think you should do some actual meta research if you are going to use vibe-reads.
I tend to go more off of the vibes of a game and who matches it. A competent scum player can fake meta reads.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #44) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:59 pm

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In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #45) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm

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In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
In other words:

Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego
It’s not ego it’s playstyle difference
I am on the spectrum so trying to be neurotypical leads to fights
So instead I hunt in my own way
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #46) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:12 pm

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In post 1367, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1365, MathBlade wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 1362, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1361, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1360, Aristeia wrote:yes but you are townreading someone off vibes - so at a minimum you should know if those vibes are actually AI?
The vibes I use are based on the gamestate not a player.

Sort of like when the hero in a movie knows when there’s bad mojo.

Reading people is a weakness but games as a whole is strong.

It’s why I am good at TRs and shit at SRs
In other words:

Ari: Says correct thing
Mathblade: egoegoego


It’s not ego it’s playstyle difference
I am on the spectrum so trying to be neurotypical leads to fights
So instead I hunt in my own way
Like by vibing you mean the context of how a player would be acting based on the stage of the game, what they're trying to achieve, and how their posts are going after achieving that goal? As opposed to the emotional tone and syntax of their post?
Correct. That’s like most of it yeah.
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #47) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:13 pm

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Like VP makes sense to be scum on paper so I expect scum to be pushing VP regardless of VP’s alignment.

So unless VP town tells if scum game is over fast. But if VP isn’t scum it’s a safe place to hide.

So once I figure out the motivations it points to scum.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #48) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:31 pm

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I am just weird lol. :P If you know Titus I am her brother
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #49) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:52 pm

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In post 1319, Frogsterking wrote:UNVOTE: Mathblade
VOTE: Unvote

Had a thought when getting ready for bed
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #50) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:14 pm

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In post 1375, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1209, Datisi wrote:ari sheeped me on lap without question and without ever trying to divert me from him.
Ari was fourth on that wagon or something right? This feels like a very questionable townread to me.

Yesterday you agreed with my assessment that Lap was bus bait. So...why wouldn't this be a suspect in a bus to you?

Additionally, do you think the Lap wagon was pure?
Dat I don’t see your answer to the Lap wagon pure or not.
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #51) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:19 pm

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In post 1391, Datisi wrote:
In post 1389, MathBlade wrote:Dat I don’t see your answer to the Lap wagon pure or not.
you'd see it if you bothered to read the wallpost readslist i posted first thing today. a50 very much looked like a partner hammering out of desperation, everyone else's vote looked Good.
Okay…pretend a divine strike came down and I was mod confirmed IC and mod confirmed there’s a scum on the wagon. Who is it and why?
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #52) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:21 pm

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In post 1396, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1391, Datisi wrote:a50 very much looked like a partner hammering out of desperation, everyone else's vote looked Good.
This is worth reconsidering if you are town.
Lol
Dude who says I am confirmed town says that he’d consider me scum if Dat flips town says what?
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #53) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:23 pm

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In post 1335, VP Baltar wrote:I am at the bar and not reading the thread tonight. In case it wasn't clear, Mathblade is confirmed town. Also, we are not yeeting me today.
Uhhhh House?
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #54) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:26 pm

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In case it wasn’t clear, MathBlade (who is A50) is confirmed town, this seems pretty clear to me.
So either A> Not confirmed and can be scum if Datisi is town (in this case why say I am conf town)
Or B> I am confirmed (then why say I am not confirmed? )

Like I am confused
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #55) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:27 pm

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In post 1408, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1401, Datisi wrote:and also. the day was supposed to start at half past midnight for me. i was dead tired at 10:30pm because the construction down my street woke me up yesterday morning. i stayed up studying biology so that i could be up when the day started. then half past midnight passed, and the day want starting. i went to bed, but tried to not fail asleep immediately. i had that copy pasted, and i did not feel like deleting that post considering it was ONE AM and i was on the verge of fucking passing out
I don't want to fight about personal life stuff because I find that tacky.

I'm just saying, even if you wrote the post over night, deleting an obviously unnecessary paragraph is not work. The alternative is you didn't see the flip, which I doubt
Nah it’s NAI

I’ve done that as both alignments
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #56) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:28 pm

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In post 1396, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1391, Datisi wrote:a50 very much looked like a partner hammering out of desperation, everyone else's vote looked Good.
This is worth reconsidering if you are town.
This = A50’s alignment no?
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #57) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:29 pm

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In post 1413, House wrote:
In post 1396, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1391, Datisi wrote:a50 very much looked like a partner hammering out of desperation, everyone else's vote looked Good.
This is worth reconsidering if you are town.
Rewording for Mathblade:

Datisi, you should reconsider your scumread on this player I'm literally calling confirmed town if you are, in fact, town.
Thank you :)
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #58) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:30 pm

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Going to bed.

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Post Post #1426 (isolation #59) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:34 pm

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In post 1420, Datisi wrote:WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE BUSSING SCUM

i'm gonna get up, get a coffee, and then try to read this shitfest
Posting while sleepy

It’s not a requirement but it’s highly probable given the champion of it died and they flipped goon.
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #60) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:35 pm

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In post 1427, Datisi wrote:
In post 1421, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1420, Datisi wrote:WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE BUSSING SCUM

i'm gonna get up, get a coffee, and then try to read this shitfest
Come on now....
i know i am the one that says "why do they always bus" but so many votes looked so non-bussy that i don't think it's out the realm of possibility
It’s possible again but then what we’re scum doing off it?
Give me somethin otherwise you’re looking a saucy place to vote
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #61) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:40 pm

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In post 1431, House wrote:Dumb question perhaps...

Why is Andresvmb town?
Andres is NAI
He shows up when he wants lol
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #62) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:45 pm

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Meh will see

I wanna see Dats answer my question so I can sort Dat in my sleep
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:51 am

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VOTE: Ari

Don’t mind me I am just a lurkin
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #64) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:53 am

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In post 1490, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1453, Datisi wrote:
In post 1452, House wrote:
In post 1451, Aristeia wrote:I don't think VPB claimed PR if that's what you think he did
No, but he softed the shit out of it.
i really REALLY don't think baltar of either alignment goes from "kill a50" to "a50 is conftown" without some sort of mech info, and i don't think this is exactly rocket surgery for scum to figure out either, which is why i'm fine talking about it with this level of openness
Sure, let's be absolutely clear: i received information last night. A50 is town. I won't be discussing the way that information came to me because scum trying to actually figure it out is an exercise in futility. I chose to release said info to stop a wasted discussion about a50 and to completely flip the script on any narratives scum wanted to open today with.

The fact multiple people came out today with "let's sheep Koba, vote:vp!" shows scum could have easily come into today pushing a couple easy misyeets had I not turned that plan on its head.
Agreed. Ari fits the bill as busser and opening up on VFP and has seemingly been trying to pocket Dat. I want to see more from Ari.

Like I kinda feel an Ari/Andres flip.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #65) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:57 am

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In post 1493, Aristeia wrote:Have you actually read the game mathblade?
I have head the like 4-5 pages that game up this morning
VP v Dat seems like a TvT shitfest
You seem content to egg Dat on and push VP

Then combined with a little VCA meaning Andres and you only potential bussers left means I want to see some pressure on you while I do
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #66) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:59 am

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VP and Dat: I get it. Y’all think your shit is the best.
Either come up with some cohesive argument or move on.

This many many posts back and forth is not productive
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #67) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:01 am

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In post 1498, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1495, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1493, Aristeia wrote:Have you actually read the game mathblade?
I have head the like 4-5 pages that game up this morning
VP v Dat seems like a TvT shitfest
You seem content to egg Dat on and push VP

Then combined with a little VCA meaning Andres and you only potential bussers left means I want to see some pressure on you while I do

You just lost a game for town because of VCA perhaps you should read the game before taking some short cuts.
I lost a game because of a unicorn scenario and a few other things.
Like I said I am still going to be reading.

Why the hell are you so defensive if you think me reading helps?
Why not just call me an idiot and keep doing what you’re doing?
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #68) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:04 am

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In post 1503, Aristeia wrote:VCA is a crutch that you can use but without actual context like thread mood, game state flow, reading how things actually unfolded, it can be pretty misleading.

Do the work - be better.
I find VCA can help to narrow or find places of focus. That’s what I use it for.
Had I had an actual miselim or something to work with that other game maybe it goes better.
You don’t join an almost perfect game expecting to win you join it for fun and practice

Again why so defensive?
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #69) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:06 am

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In post 25, catboi wrote:
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Datisi (5):
VP Baltar, Aristeia, skitter30, House, Reformed Toxic Player

Not Voting (8):
Andresvmb, Almost50, Datisi, Frogsterking, innocentvillager, Laplacian, OutWorldER, Something_Smart


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This doesn’t happen without a scum on it lol
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #70) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 am

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VP is miselim bait imho

House is well House
RTP is flipped

Means a scum in you / Skitter

Bus vote seems to be you/Andres

So either you’re scum or Skitter+Andres is a fine start point
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #71) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 am

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In post 30, skitter30 wrote:If i had to guess, no, but its not something i'm particularly confident in, or a read i'd give much weight to
This post is bad from Skitter. She knows better.
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #72) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:13 am

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In post 76, Andresvmb wrote:

I fundamentally do not have an issue if you want to say that skitter gives you Town vibes for Unvoting in that scenario where you had gathered a lot of votes early. On average, I’m going to guess that’s probably correct. But I wouldn’t completely discount the possibility that Scum couldn’t possibly have piled on there and then Unvoted to give the appearance of letting the thread breathe. And let’s get real - if you’re Town, Scum aren’t going to turn around and put
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at E-1 and really think you’re going to get hammered out of nowhere. Not with this player list.
Good post from Andres.

Andres where are you? I summon you from the depths of RL to play. *sniff*
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #73) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:15 am

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In post 85, Aristeia wrote:Mmmm guess what I am making rn Datisi
Ignores the entire game to buddy Dat. Odd.
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #74) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 am

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In post 137, House wrote:This has to be the earliest I've caught scum. :)
This has to be the earliest I disagree with House and townread him for it
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #75) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:20 am

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In post 169, skitter30 wrote:i get nice vibes from , and the last line of
Give me a scumread Skitter. Roar. Your posting is devoid of scumreads too.
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #76) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:22 am

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In post 1530, Frogsterking wrote:Is there any reason skitt and OutworldER CANT be the scum team?
Lack of votes on Lap makes it unlikely.
Skitter is experienced scum and knows optics well.
When you play with experienced people they know to put at least one player on a scum wagon for cred. So since majority of game is experienced leads to Ari/Andres and Andres D1 is better than Ari’s so far.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #77) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:24 am

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In post 174, Laplacian wrote:I've played one game with House so far, and this is exactly how he acted as town in that one, including the fast af claim
Such a buddy move lol like never push House ever
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:26 am

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In post 185, Aristeia wrote:VOTE: laplacian
This vote is a typical sus vote. Naked. No expression of why and no expression of thoughts yet.

Seems more to keep up buddying it’s Dat vs a town who thought Lap was scum.
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #79) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:27 am

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Also where are the memes?
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #80) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 am

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In post 210, skitter30 wrote:i'm not sure if t/t or t/s, but i don't think it's s/s

if it's t/s i think dats is t and ari is s
I actually agree with this. Maybe Skitter needed time to warm up?

Ari/Skitter is out of the question based on this post
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #81) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 am

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In post 1539, House wrote:
In post 1532, MathBlade wrote:Andres D1 is better than Ari’s so far.
Do you even read, bro?
Did you notice the past few posts are me reading the game?
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #82) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:35 am

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In post 273, Aristeia wrote:I think by the way you would have better luck "catching" me if you asked me about things that are relevant to the game
Why do you remember June 17th, 2015? That’s almost 7 years ago lmao
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #83) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:38 am

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In post 284, Almost50 wrote:I would like to think if Mathblade was here he would have screamed at me to "keep my pants on", but I think outing this info is good for if/when time comes to a massclaim and I am still alive.
Sir! I like my pants. Give them back!
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #84) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:40 am

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In post 1545, House wrote:
In post 1529, MathBlade wrote:
In post 137, House wrote:This has to be the earliest I've caught scum. :)
This has to be the earliest I disagree with House and townread him for it
Idk why, it's not like we're ever been surfing the same wavelength in any games we've ever been in, in the history of everything.
For Datisi to be scum there’s have to be an intentional plan to RVS him.

It’s much more believable that it was a coordinated scum attempt to get him off his game than that.
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #85) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:41 am

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In post 290, Aristeia wrote:
Spoiler: placeholder so I can laugh at myself later
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PoE has like no scum and vote is on Lap.
Seems still typical scum play
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:45 am

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In post 1554, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1551, MathBlade wrote:
In post 290, Aristeia wrote:
Spoiler: placeholder so I can laugh at myself later
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PoE has like no scum and vote is on Lap.
Seems still typical scum play
those are townreads
K then you still haven’t expressed a scumread or done anything to push Lap so still bad
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Post Post #1558 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:45 am

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In post 1555, Aristeia wrote:can you stop being tunneled on me!scum and actually read the game without confbiasing yourself.
This is me reading the game.

Until you do something meritting a townread you don’t get one
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:49 am

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In post 392, Datisi wrote:completing the survey would be the first thing i would do as scum because i don't believe for a second that someone who has zero prior experience with me can accurately read my alignment based on seeing a personality test report
Yeah Dat is town I bet the game on it.
The survey is free white noise and spam and so yeah.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:51 am

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In post 408, Aristeia wrote:VOTE: IV
In post 409, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:that was easy
Oooh vote off a buddy at flimsiest excuse without reasons still.

Spicy. My vote is good.

You want to be townread, earn it by doing something.
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Post Post #1571 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:51 am

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In post 1565, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's very odd that House and IV townread each other after neither of them died.
I already went through how it’s not for all possibilities. It’s NAI for either
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #91) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:52 am

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In post 1567, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1565, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's very odd that House and IV townread each other after neither of them died.
Do you see any reason to rule out a VP / IV team?
Yes. I think this doesn’t work. Bad team.
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #92) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:53 am

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In post 1572, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1569, MathBlade wrote:
In post 408, Aristeia wrote:VOTE: IV
In post 409, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:that was easy
Oooh vote off a buddy at flimsiest excuse without reasons still.

Spicy. My vote is good.

You want to be townread, earn it by doing something.
Mathblade

You don't know if I am doing something

because you literally have not read the game.

That is me reading the game.
Up til that point your votes have been naked and you’ve spent you’re entire ISO buddying Dat.
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #93) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:56 am

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In post 459, Laplacian wrote:
In post 455, VP Baltar wrote:I don't know Laplacian's alignment, but he makes me laugh.
I aim to please
This post doesn’t seem SvS.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #94) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:58 am

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In post 474, House wrote:
In post 470, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I read Lap's most recent posts as pr so don't wagon him please if he doesn't seem to be town telling.
There is literally zero town motivation in this post.
Hey I agree with House here!

Ari Frog?
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #95) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:02 am

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In post 524, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 520, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 517, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 508, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 501, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 500, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 498, innocentvillager wrote:Why do you think these responses are towny? The Datisi one I can maybe maybe see, but definitely not the VP Baltar one.
Counterpoint, mine was the towniest answer.
Why?
Because that is what I would do as scum. Take the survey and just tank the results by lying.
Idk maybe, that feels way too first order though. I think scum could approach this in more ways than just that. Maybe it's because I got here late after he posted the survey, but I don't really feel there's that much benefit for scum to take the survey at all.
I already proved it isn't effective by pulling his reads from the last game he used it in.

Posting it is NAI at best imo. It isn't going to lead to actually catching scum, and that's my main problem with it. If he's town, I'd like to dissuade him from pulling this in future games.
That's not how math works - if I claim to have a model that predicts a 50% event with 75% probability and I predict wrong in one instance, that doesn't prove my model is trash.
In post 521, skitter30 wrote:ok vp's town
Okay, why?
Okay I am pausing here to do some fun stuff.
The bad math makes me want to cry.
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #96) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:48 am

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I think the most likely is one and one. Both would be a bit heavy handed and from what I have read didn’t seem like that.
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #97) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:00 pm

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Correct. That’s why I am voting Ari. Still catching up but the move off of Lap to IV is sus. It matches the initial hop I would expect then back on when the wagon was a foregone conclusion. I haven’t read her plop back on but that’s what the vote count says
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Post Post #1667 (isolation #98) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:01 pm

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I also don’t like how Frog is clearing Ari without a good reason.
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #99) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:08 pm

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In post 1660, Frogsterking wrote:So I guess the list of potential bussers who aren't BWing skitter right now might be a good place to look.

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In post 1204, catboi wrote:
Laplacian (7):
Reformed Toxic Player,
Andresvmb,
Datisi, Aristeia,
House
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With 13 alive, it took 7 to eliminate.
In post 1627, catboi wrote:
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With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.



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Andresvmb, House, Frogsterking, Almost50

are the potential bussers who aren't bwing skitter.

So fmpov if I choose to believe everything I heard today and last night, including reading House as town based on dayplay, skitter and andres are the most likely scum team.

So the bias here is that skitter and andres have also spoken the least, so being that the general voices of the crowd are pushing me in a direction toward them, maybe that's not too surprising.

so if I assume that skitter and andres are NOT the correct solve, maybe I can work backwards and isolate the voices until I have a coherent whole with a minimum amount of assumptions.
So how exactly did you go from Ari not bussing to Ari bussing?

And what does BW stand for?
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Post Post #1674 (isolation #100) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:09 pm

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In post 1669, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1666, MathBlade wrote:Correct. That’s why I am voting Ari. Still catching up but the move off of Lap to IV is sus. It matches the initial hop I would expect then back on when the wagon was a foregone conclusion. I haven’t read her plop back on but that’s what the vote count says
the hop where I follow Datisi is suspicious to you.

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Post Post #1679 (isolation #101) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:14 pm

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In post 1675, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1674, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1669, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1666, MathBlade wrote:Correct. That’s why I am voting Ari. Still catching up but the move off of Lap to IV is sus. It matches the initial hop I would expect then back on when the wagon was a foregone conclusion. I haven’t read her plop back on but that’s what the vote count says
the hop where I follow Datisi is suspicious to you.

Amazing
Correct. It looks like you care more about pocketing Datisi than getting scum with the IV vote.
You don't even know what IV's alignment is
I don’t know IV’s alignment for certain no.

However, House is more than likely town. And House defended IV and IV is acting similar to another game where IV was town. So it’s more a probable guess.
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #102) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:17 pm

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In post 1678, Aristeia wrote:Like when you death-tunneled Dwlee into Dwlee revealing themselves as IC you'd think you'd sit down and re-evaluate your game state read but no you continued to not listen to anyone else and believe in your own solution above all else
I didn’t cause them to reveal Koba did. My solution had a greater than 90% chance of being correct. Yes, it wasn’t that game. But I always take what’s more likely over less likely. If someone explains you’re town that I townread I back off.

But you seem to fit the scum slot by VCA and by the play I have seen so I have no reason to Unvote based on some AtE.
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #103) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:19 pm

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In post 1681, Aristeia wrote:You are incredibly confbiased.
Maybe so. But I am not demanding the conversation go my way.
All I am doing is stating my opinion.
I was actually poking Frog to see if they were scum buddying me before you decided to argue I suck vs who is scum or something productive.

I am one person with one vote. If I am unreasonable the wagon doesn’t gain traction. Gonna take a shower and back in a bit.

If you want a townread do something to earn it.
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #104) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:20 pm

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In post 1687, Aristeia wrote:You didn't have a 90% chance of being right

You don't even understand how you messed up.

You still think you are right despite hard evidence you are wrong.
I don’t think you want to challenge me on math. I was wrong that game but the play was correct even though it ended in a loss.

Think of it like a game of poker. If you’re the second best hand the proper play is usually all in because someone having the best hand is very rare. That’s what happened so *shrug*
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #105) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:21 pm

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In post 1685, Aristeia wrote:Mafia is not a dice game.
It is though. I have to make a guess based on incomplete info.
So I make a guess based on what is most likely.
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #106) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm

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In post 1204, catboi wrote:
Vote Count 1.08
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Laplacian (7):
Reformed Toxic Player, Andresvmb, Datisi, Aristeia, House, Frogsterking, Almost50
Almost50 (2):
VP Baltar, skitter30
innocentvillager (1):
OutWorldER
Frogsterking (1):
Laplacian
Datisi (1):
innocentvillager

Not Voting (1):
Something_Smart


With 13 alive, it took 7 to eliminate.
So you think two scum in VP,skitter,outer,IV, and SS yeah Ari?
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #107) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:26 pm

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In post 1692, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1690, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1685, Aristeia wrote:Mafia is not a dice game.
It is though. I have to make a guess based on incomplete info.
So I make a guess based on what is most likely.
You really have learned nothing from the loss and that is a shame.
You have also failed to remember AtE is meaningless here.

If you want it to mean something you’d have to tell me what I was supposed to gleam from repping into an almost unwinnable game.

I’ve spent my whole life with belittling comments that aren’t constructive and that’s exactly what this is and those type of comments will cause me to stick with my vote on you.

So then miss high and mighty put up or shut up. What was I supposed to learn?
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Post Post #1698 (isolation #108) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:27 pm

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In post 1694, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1689, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1687, Aristeia wrote:You didn't have a 90% chance of being right

You don't even understand how you messed up.

You still think you are right despite hard evidence you are wrong.
I don’t think you want to challenge me on math. I was wrong that game but the play was correct even though it ended in a loss.

Think of it like a game of poker. If you’re the second best hand the proper play is usually all in because someone having the best hand is very rare. That’s what happened so *shrug*
I have never voted incorrectly in elo so you probably don't want to challenge me on how to play town.
I rarely have either but I also understand I am human. I also maybe have played a few more games than you. Even if I grant your premise it is a logical fallacy. Your perfection or lack thereof in elo is not this game.
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #109) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:29 pm

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I am going to step away but this type of posting saying I am bad for simply scumreading you is not constructive.

If you think I am bad then what in my logic is flawed. Be constructive or I won’t care
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #110) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:32 pm

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In post 1702, Aristeia wrote:because you replaced into a slot with near perfect reads and you decided to throw them out the window to go down your own rabbit hole.
Because Dwlee plus those made no sense and that was correct
So I went to VCA.

And I was right Dwlee wasn’t scum with them.
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Post Post #1706 (isolation #111) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:34 pm

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I don’t blatantly disregard my replace ins reads but try to see if they are valid. They didn’t make sense so I started fresh. Yes I guessed wrong but I worked with probability. The fact you see tunnel when I actively asked questions is a problem

And the fact you won’t hunt and instead characterize a valid scumread as a tunnel is a problem
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #112) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:37 pm

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In post 1707, Aristeia wrote:Instead of taking the lesson that you should not tunnel and you should re-evaluate the way you approach games, you seem to have taken the idea that

a] it was a unicorn situation
b] your plan would've worked 90% of the time
c] that game was unwinnable for town.


these are all making excuses for your mistake and not one of them is actually true.

I hope you become a better player because it's infuriating to watch you mess up, learn nothing then come here and tunnel me.
Those are all valid.
The proper play is to get you to town tell or flip you here as the most likely person to have bussed Lap.

You can either town tell by hunting or finding a better scumread.

It really feels like you don’t give a shit about why I scumread you or the case which Frog summarized

What’s illogical about it? Is Frog buddying me? Are we both town tunneling you?

Give me a break.
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #113) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:37 pm

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In post 1709, Aristeia wrote:you took my townread list on page 10 and called it a poe

i corrected you and said no thats a townread list,

you then said im still scum

thats literally the definition of a confbiased shit tunnel.
Yes. One misinterpretation of a post doesn’t change a shit ton of bad.
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #114) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:38 pm

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Why do I scumread you Ari? What’s wrong about it? Are you even listening or are you just screaming tunnel?
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #115) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:40 pm

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In post 1713, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1711, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1709, Aristeia wrote:you took my townread list on page 10 and called it a poe

i corrected you and said no thats a townread list,

you then said im still scum

thats literally the definition of a confbiased shit tunnel.
Yes. One misinterpretation of a post doesn’t change a shit ton of bad.
this is literally the definition of confbias
No it is not.

Conf bias is the tendency to hunt for and search for information supporting ones current belief even if presented with information to to contrary.

You have presented I read one post wrong,

That doesn’t mitigate your piss poor voting pattern and you haven’t expressed or pushed anyone.

You’ve put more effort into Math is tunneling than any read all game
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #116) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:41 pm

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In post 1716, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1714, MathBlade wrote:Why do I scumread you Ari? What’s wrong about it? Are you even listening or are you just screaming tunnel?
you are scumreading me for sheeping Datisi. It's pretty stupid.
Nope that’s a minor minor part
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #117) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:42 pm

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In post 1719, Aristeia wrote:you said i am jumping off Lapla into IV in a scummy way. except I am sheeping Datisi so I would have to somehow hack into his brain and get him to move his vote first. It's ridiculous.
Correct it’s scummy not because of the Datisi vote first

It’s a naked vote off of a scum wagon, and no justification and no reads.

Just because it’s after Datisi is a coincidence

Replace Datisi with RTP and it’s still bad
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #118) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:43 pm

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In post 1720, Aristeia wrote:this conversation is a waste of my time

dont talk to me i dont care anymore.
Lol we agree! Do something Townie or I keep voting you.

Laterz.
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #119) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:57 pm

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That’s the thing. I am not. You’re pushing that.

I put out what I believe to be the most likely theory with evidence for peer review.
Peers review if and if it’s wrong it gets rejected then I build another theory.
I do the same for others. That’s how the game works.
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #120) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:58 pm

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What you’re doing is well crafted Ate nothing more
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #121) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:59 pm

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In post 1727, Frogsterking wrote:I think you might want to work on another theory this looks TvT to me.
Why?
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #122) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:07 pm

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In post 1729, Frogsterking wrote:

The only players I've seen who are manipulative enough to craft AtE like that are extremely low in agreeableness.
Tbf I don’t think that’s ate. Seems like just results crafted from a website. Something iirc called out that as busy work. Do you have another reason you think she’s town besides emotion? I don’t like emotion in reads as anyone can do it so almost all of it is NAI.
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #123) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:18 pm

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VOTE: Andres

If Andres flips town I will come for you no holds barred

Because that wagon wasn’t pure
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Post Post #1735 (isolation #124) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:18 pm

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I still think you’re the most likely to be fair I am just testing a theory
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #125) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 pm

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In post 1736, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1733, MathBlade wrote:Because that wagon wasn’t pure
You literally don't know this
This is correct. I don’t know this. It’s the most probable.

Lap flipped goon and went down without a fight or struggle,

So lap being bussed is much more probable than not
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Post Post #1738 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:22 pm

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If Lap had flipped PR then I would look off wagon.
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:25 pm

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In post 1739, Aristeia wrote:That's what infuriates me about your playstyle.

Because if that wagon is pure and you spend 3 mislims killing on it and then we lose, you will just be happy with the loss and say "ooh it was a unicorn pure wagon"
If it is pure then we’d likely know before three miselims as we’d have invests poke there and sort it out. That’s the thing with everyone focused on it we’d deduce if it’s right or not.

You and Andres are the only viable scum on the wagon. If neither of you are scum then it’s unicorn and off. You haven’t given a reason to think it’s pure when strategically it’s most likely not.
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #128) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:30 pm

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https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/ ... ry.141207/

You mock my play but it caught the top scum PR early and set us up for success.

Wake was scum and deviations occurred and Iso pocketed the thread neighbor.
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #129) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:32 pm

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Wake had deviated from what they do in their introduction.
It was statistically significant and I pushed them to elim.

So Andres and you are the most likely to be scum.

Until someone proposes someone else more likely there is no reason to change the theory
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #130) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:40 pm

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Every single mechanical probability I had there was accurate

The double voter was scum
Wake was outside of usual patterns

The realistic odds of a wagon not containing a scum are slim. It requires select 7 of 12 no scum.

Odds of first slot 9/12
Second 8/11
Third 7/10
6/11
5/10
4/9
3/8

Multiplying those together is around .22 percent

So 78% odds either Ari or Andres are scum.
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #131) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:42 pm

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Now if you really want to go through and make me demonstrate the math of the other game we can, but quite frankly I prefer logic as logic can’t lie
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Post Post #1749 (isolation #132) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pm

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When I had to go subjective reads is when I fell to ISO’s emotional crap.
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Post Post #1750 (isolation #133) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:44 pm

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Cut that in half because Lap flipped goon. I’d call this a unicorn game if Andres or you aren’t scum
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Post Post #1753 (isolation #134) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:48 pm

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VOTE: Ari

Like I can’t not when she continues to push it.

Will hop on Andres if it becomes a major wagon.
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #135) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:07 pm

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In post 1754, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 1684, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1677, OutWorldER wrote:Yeah, I'd agree that the other scum were likely off wagon.
Can you walk me through your reason for believing this?
RTP is already flipped, assuming you are town and you are being truthful about your info on A50's slot, then A50/Math is town. House is all but conftown because of the mason claim. Frogster had been pushing Laplacian basically since they arrived to the game and was one of the kickstarters of it along with RTP.

The only viable candidates for a bus are Datisi, Andres, and Ari. Datisi's push before Lap in and do not read as distancing to me and the same goes for his pushes later in the day, nor does Datisi have a reason to kill RTP. The same goes for Ari and Andres, I don't think either of those slots kill RTP N1.
Why do you think neither of those slots kill RTP?
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Post Post #1808 (isolation #136) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:54 pm

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VOTE: andres

Skitter knows why I focus on her. Not only was I asked she’s as good at scum as me if not better. She’s one of the few I BoP.

So she needs to shape up.
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Post Post #1810 (isolation #137) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:55 pm

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Bahhh blatantly sheeping House.

I want Andres or Ari so if Andres is town it locks Ari. So Andres is forced to play and if Andres is red I want Skitter
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Post Post #1813 (isolation #138) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:00 pm

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In post 1812, House wrote:Math, I honestly have no idea how you can be so sus of Ari.

She just oozes town.
I don’t believe that’s possible for anyone.
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #139) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:01 pm

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She hasn’t expressed a scumread all game (from what I have read)
Her votes suck
When I bring up credible concerns she deflects with “woe me Math is a tunneler”

She has no interest in solving the game imho
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #140) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:09 pm

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In post 1816, House wrote:
In post 1814, MathBlade wrote:She hasn’t expressed a scumread all game (from what I have read)
Her votes suck
When I bring up credible concerns she deflects with “woe me Math is a tunneler”

She has no interest in solving the game imho
So?

That sounds like the kind of shit scum would use to shade LHF.

Do better.
It’s the truth for all scum. Don’t see your point.

Until she does something remotely protown she stays in my PoE I just won’t push her as it’s toxic.
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Post Post #1821 (isolation #141) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:10 pm

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Because she just spammed a ton of ate

I haven’t heard a viable reason why she’s town other than “she is”.

So nothing to learn nothing to change
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #142) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:17 pm

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In post 1822, skitter30 wrote:I dont think she sheeps dats onto a partner, and she's beinf a lot more circumspect abt her read on me than i think she would be as scum
I think she would. Why do you think she wouldn’t? What Townie thing makes you think that?
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #143) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:19 pm

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In post 1826, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1823, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1822, skitter30 wrote:I dont think she sheeps dats onto a partner, and she's beinf a lot more circumspect abt her read on me than i think she would be as scum
I think she would. Why do you think she wouldn’t? What Townie thing makes you think that?
There was no hesitation either time dats voted him, i think scum-ari would drop the schtick and try to avoid bussing a partner, no?
Dropping the stick becomes suspicious.
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Post Post #1829 (isolation #144) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:27 pm

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In post 1828, skitter30 wrote:I mean yes but voting out a partner kinda sucks, no?
Not always as scum. It’s about painting a narrative.

Lap flipped goon so relatively low on the PR side
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Post Post #1831 (isolation #145) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:31 pm

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In post 1830, skitter30 wrote:Ok but scum-ari doesnt walk out of that bussing vote with a good narrative
She does right now considering how many of you are fighting for her being town without being able to give me a Townie thing she did
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Post Post #1833 (isolation #146) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:32 pm

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Look let’s just agree to disagree and move on.

It’s been beat to death. I can case her til I am blue in the face and no one cares.

Convince me Andres is scum more than her
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #147) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:33 pm

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In post 1832, Frogsterking wrote:Because we're reading by tone so we can tell Ari is town. Math doesn't read by tone so Math can't tell Ari is town.
Reading by tone is fundamentally flawed and a good way to get in someone’s pocket. I love using tone when scum to fuck with people.
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #148) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:34 pm

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In post 1834, House wrote:
In post 1831, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1830, skitter30 wrote:Ok but scum-ari doesnt walk out of that bussing vote with a good narrative
She does right now considering how many of you are fighting for her being town without being able to give me a Townie thing she did
I also didn't tell people why I townread you prior to Baltar's claim.

Get used to it, broheim.
I can be Townie enough without having friends vouch for me
I’d rather get scum.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #149) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:34 pm

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In post 1836, skitter30 wrote:If that's at me, i also dont think andres is scum
Then who is the scum on the Lap wagon?

78% odds there is.
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #150) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:35 pm

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And don’t tell me mafia isn’t a game of Numbers. Most of the time that comes from scum complaining about the PoE I have. If you agree with it you don’t complain.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #151) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:37 pm

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In post 1841, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1838, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1836, skitter30 wrote:If that's at me, i also dont think andres is scum
Then who is the scum on the Lap wagon?

78% odds there is.
I answered this earlier, i said i thought it was your slot
I am confirmed town by VP.
Try again. Who else?
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #152) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:39 pm

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In post 1843, House wrote:
In post 1832, Frogsterking wrote:Because we're reading by tone so we can tell Ari is town. Math doesn't read by tone so Math can't tell Ari is town.
Image
House is a tunneler for Ari town x 200

See? Can I have free town reads from the whole game now?
No? Then give me the real reason
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #153) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:40 pm

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Unless you can explain your read I am not going to care so drop it and move on.
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #154) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:44 pm

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In post 1851, skitter30 wrote:Notice how i'm not voting you, but am voting iv...
Notice how you didn’t answer the question

Regarding the IV wagon, wagon on masons claim is bad. Should have dissipated faster
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #155) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 pm

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You should be answering who is the scum bussing Lap
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #156) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 pm

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In post 1857, Frogsterking wrote:skitter kinda seems scum here ngl
+1
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #157) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:52 pm

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In post 1864, Frogsterking wrote:Haha you aren't gonna like this guess Math but I'm getting the feeling it's skitter and IV here, and they got screwed over by VP clearing a50's slot.
Nah IV doesn’t go with the masons claim as scum imho.
Too easy to just vote House.

I think Skitter + Ari or Skitter + Datisi or Skitter + Andres if I have to pick a team.

I’d rather go on wagon.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #158) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:54 pm

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Intent


I don’t think that’s actually e-1 unless wagons in my head are wrong
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #159) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:54 pm

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In post 1872, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1869, MathBlade wrote:Nah IV doesn’t go with the masons claim as scum imho.
Why not?

You know that IV was in serious danger of dying otherwise, right?
Nah d1 wagons almost always dissipate early. Seemed like any other RVS wagon
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #160) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:56 pm

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Yeah this game has a long RVS
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #161) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm

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In post 1889, House wrote:
In post 1884, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1881, House wrote:Asked & answered.
I didn't ask you
And I didn't answer FOR math.
I mean like he kinda did because I answered this question earlier today? Not sure why you’re asking again.
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Post Post #1900 (isolation #162) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:01 pm

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In post 1892, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1879, skitter30 wrote:Also these last like 4 votes are sus as anything

Again look at math
Make vp claim his mechanical stuff
Iv is sus

Idk that's what i have

Dont vote frog
Hellll yeah

I mean skitter is like bleeding town now
No she isn’t.

If she thought I was scum she’d vote VP to try to prove I am scum but since I am town it’s probable VP’s flip would prove it.
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #163) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:02 pm

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In post 1898, skitter30 wrote:Because ...

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Math why are you scumreadibg me exactly

If i get hammered before he articulates that plz make him explain his read tom
Because you’re better than the content you’re producing.
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #164) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm

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In post 1275, MathBlade wrote:I think I don’t know enough to answer

Assuming for case and point House /IV has no scum in it >> scum think mason claim is genuine and shoot outside to avoid possible protects?
Assuming House / IV has one scum only >> scum shoot outside masons claim
Assuming both scum >> def outside

So seems more a traditional why was RTP shot?
Why House/IV doesn’t die as any alignment.
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #165) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:03 pm

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In post 1905, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1900, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1892, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1879, skitter30 wrote:Also these last like 4 votes are sus as anything

Again look at math
Make vp claim his mechanical stuff
Iv is sus

Idk that's what i have

Dont vote frog
Hellll yeah

I mean skitter is like bleeding town now
No she isn’t.

If she thought I was scum she’d vote VP to try to prove I am scum but since I am town it’s probable VP’s flip would prove it.
How is that going to help anything rn ...
And mo i wouldnt
VP says I am mech inno like you’ve been told several times.
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #166) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:06 pm

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As do I. I am very familiar with scum you.

Pedit
Because there’s three possibilities

VP is town and truth telling I am inno. God father can’t exist because normal.
VP is scum and fake clearing me and I am town. Acts as a de facto clear
VP is scum and I am (this is false listing for completeness sake).

The only world I am scum is with VP.

Town you can process this and votes VP.
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #167) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:07 pm

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In post 1921, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1908, MathBlade wrote:Why House/IV doesn’t die as any alignment.
Ok but what I asked us why scum IV doesn't go along with the mason claim.
Because free house elim or at minimum drama moves away from IV.
Scum sticking with a masons claim is Suicide
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #168) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 pm

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In post 1920, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1918, House wrote:
In post 1916, House wrote:
In post 1912, skitter30 wrote:Asks ss ari or dats, they have experience with scum-me, outworlder does not
Dats is already voting you.
So is Ari!
Why are either of these things relevant ...
So skitter + dats/Ari cool.
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #169) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:09 pm

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In post 1927, skitter30 wrote:Right, so them retracting it is scummy, no?
Nope because it’s house
He does shit like this.
Annoys me but not scummy
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #170) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm

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In post 1929, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1924, MathBlade wrote:Because free house elim or at minimum drama moves away from IV.
How is it free House elim? Nobody's going to buy that House wouldn't do that as town, and IV just draws attention back on himself.
Lol mason claims that are fake go horribly unless you can trust the other person to agree
Have seen claims like that fall apart
Funny enough in the offsite game I mentioned scum got bit by a similar gambit.

So it never goes well so always best to cc
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Post Post #1936 (isolation #171) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm

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In post 1933, skitter30 wrote:Math why is me + dats/ari plz

They're literally both voting me already
Because you won’t talk about them or who is the scum bussing.
So you + Dat/Ari maaaybe Andres
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #172) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:13 pm

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In post 1940, House wrote:
In post 1936, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1933, skitter30 wrote:Math why is me + dats/ari plz

They're literally both voting me already
Because you won’t talk about them or who is the scum bussing.
So you + Dat/Ari maaaybe Andres
In post 1938, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1934, MathBlade wrote:Lol mason claims that are fake go horribly unless you can trust the other person to agree
So why did this one not go horribly? Why would IV be afraid of what's currently happening if he's scum?
How could he predict the reaction of the claim being retracted?
Which he? I don’t follow the question.
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Post Post #1946 (isolation #173) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:16 pm

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In post 1943, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1939, skitter30 wrote:What does that even mean ... i talked about my ari read extensively ...
You’ve said she’s town.
No viable reasons why.

We’ve been on the road to no useful answer
One I have no interest in continuing.

Who is the scum bussing Lap?
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Post Post #1947 (isolation #174) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:17 pm

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VOTE: Skitter

My wim is like 0
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #175) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:17 pm

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This isn’t hammer due to Unvote but caring is hard atm.
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #176) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 pm

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In post 1948, skitter30 wrote:I said i dont know, and that i think its you, and that asking me again wouldnt change my answer ...

And again, how are you getting that teamread - i havent really talked abt ss - am i scum with him?
Confirmed inno can’t bus.

Scum was bussing Lap.

You’re the most likely scum off

Those are if I am forced to team up
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #177) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:19 pm

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In post 1955, skitter30 wrote:You arenr a confirmed inno
...
Again I am through VP.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #178) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:20 pm

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In post 1958, skitter30 wrote:Also how do you know scum was bussing lap

If its not you, i dont think there was scum on that wagon
Odds and goon flip
Asked and answered yawn
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #179) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:23 pm

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In post 1964, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1961, House wrote:
In post 1955, skitter30 wrote:You arenr a confirmed inno
...
The only way math isn't confirmed town is if VP retracts his claim.

Any other scenario, Math is IC.
Ok, and rn i dont trust that so yeah

Pedit i'm not
Town you is smart enough to realize this goes nowhere and it’s spam to piss me off.

Skitter Ari maybe Skitter is desperate to kill me and knows I don’t buy the tone BS so I am a threat.

Otherwise no reason to vote me if skitter scum
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Post Post #1979 (isolation #180) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:30 pm

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In post 1978, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1976, House wrote:VT's don't normally fake claim Mason to protect a townread everyone wants dead on d1, but there ya go.
Yeah maybe stop doin that
That’s like telling House not to be chaotic
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #181) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:34 pm

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In post 1982, House wrote:"I'm gonna shade the cop, vote the inno, and then wonder why I get hammered."
And not give any other scumreads
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #182) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:38 am

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In post 1428, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1423, House wrote:
In post 1421, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1420, Datisi wrote:WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE BUSSING SCUM

i'm gonna get up, get a coffee, and then try to read this shitfest
Come on now....
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Y’all this is a guilty.

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Post Post #2077 (isolation #183) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:44 am

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In post 2075, Datisi wrote:math, you claiming your own guilty or you pretending you don't know baltar was the scum kill? :)
I am a named Townie.

Still catching up on the day but looks like scum did a null kill and Baltar visited you.

Also if you were town you’d remember I am a named Townie and you would be like “guilty isn’t possible”.

Get rekt.
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Post Post #2083 (isolation #184) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:48 am

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I think VP visited you.
Vig shot could have happened on Outworld like crumbed but I think VP visited you and if scum shot VP then double shot.

So I think Datisi is scum here
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #185) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:50 am

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In post 2081, House wrote:
In post 2078, Datisi wrote:ahahahahaAHAHAHHA yeah ok math is scum

because town definitely has more incentive to remember claims than scum does

and because you totally can't backtrack a50's lolclaim, SUREEE
After n1 passed, a n1 backup is essentially a named townie.
This.
I think VP visited Datisi.
Therefore my vote will not change.
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Post Post #2089 (isolation #186) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:51 am

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In post 2086, Datisi wrote:there is a claimed vig shot on outworld, lmfao

i can't wait for the "well ok vp's n2 action doesn't mean anything but datisi is still scum"
It’s crumbed not claimed.

VP’s last post is a crumb about going to visit you.

If scum also shot VP sucks to suck.
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #187) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:52 am

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In post 2087, House wrote:
In post 2083, MathBlade wrote:I think VP visited you.
Vig shot could have happened on Outworld like crumbed but I think VP visited you and if scum shot VP then double shot.

So I think Datisi is scum here
You think..

scum...

double...

shot...

???

???
I think Datisi had to shoot there to prevent a 100% guilty.

Assume Outworlder was vigged
Assume scum kill anywhere else
Assume VP visited Datisi

Datisi is guilty.
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #188) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:55 am

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In post 2093, Something_Smart wrote:If House and Frogster and Math are all town, as I believe they are, then there's a 0% chance that if they actually manage to all agree on something, it will make a lick of sense.
Dude look at VP’s last post
Remember the game with LLD and you were hider?

Look at it and tell me that’s not a crumb of visiting Datisi.
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #189) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:59 am

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In post 2073, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1428, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1423, House wrote:
In post 1421, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1420, Datisi wrote:WHY DOES THERE HAVE TO BE BUSSING SCUM

i'm gonna get up, get a coffee, and then try to read this shitfest
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Y’all this is a guilty.

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Post Post #2108 (isolation #190) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:00 am

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I don’t see Datisi town here
He knows me better than this and is trying to get one last elim

I compromised on Skitter
But will not compromise on Datisi who
Has a crumbed guilty on him
Matches every goddamn VCA pattern
And is trying to shade the fucking inno
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #191) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:01 am

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In post 2106, Datisi wrote:1428 happened 20 HOURS before end of d2

calling that his last post is utter bullshit
Sorry I am on my phone and it’s early.
Last post is bullshit

My point is that’s a freakin crumb
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #192) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:03 am

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In post 2111, Something_Smart wrote:Where can I submit my resignation letter for this game?
I wish I could too

The most likely scum Datisi and Ari
No one wants to do because ???

Then when I provide airtight cases it’s all
Tone and I don’t wanna elim the guilty
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #193) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:08 am

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In post 2116, Datisi wrote:math is trying to use circular logic of me both being guiltied by vpb and me having shot him to not get guiltied, weak roles do not work like that

math is bs'ing about me fitting vca patterns after i started hardpushing lapla on page fucking 8 and after his slot did a shady af hammer and had an all-town counterwagon on them

math is calling me scum for shading an inno that happened after a weak role didn't die, and after that said weak role HEAVILY crumbed their night action
Correct. VCA patterns indicated a planned bus when Lap flipped goon.
So first half of the wagon is inherently more sus.

Hammer was shady but I am inno’d and it was A50 who did it not me. For A50 it’s less sus.

Weak = die on visiting opposite alignment

Short of someone outright claiming the vig shot (making them inno as I doubt two shot vig) you’re dying

I see one person who crumbed it, but they can be a bit weird at times.
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Post Post #2122 (isolation #194) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:10 am

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In post 2118, House wrote:
In post 2117, Datisi wrote:
In post 2115, House wrote:
In post 2113, Datisi wrote:
In post 2108, MathBlade wrote:Has a crumbed guilty on him
HE WAS SHOT BY SCUM THE GUILTY IS MEANINGLESS
Was he though?
if you wanna retract your vig claim for funsies to have me killed, have fun, just kill math tomorrow
Everything I do is for funsies.

VOTE: Something_Smart

Like that. Great fun.
I like that vote.
SS would be agreeing as town because it matches the format of the hider crumb from that game.
Even if somehow Datisi is town which I doubt
Datisi + SS makes sense
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Post Post #2126 (isolation #195) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:12 am

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In post 2121, House wrote:
In post 2119, MathBlade wrote:I see one person who crumbed it, but they can be a bit weird at times.
This is wholly inaccurate.
The they can be weird part? Pretty sure this person and I sometimes have trouble communicating like there is a brick wall or something in the way. Maybe that’s my personality or the layout.

Or are you saying there is no vig crumb/claim?
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #196) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:14 am

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In post 2120, Datisi wrote:because i am definitely the type of egoistical masochistic asshole to plan a bus on page 8, you got it

i know how weak roles work, that's why i'm calling the inno bullshit

have fun with vig fishing i guess
It’s not fishing.
If there is a vig they should claim who they shot and then become inno
And we do whatever the fuck they want.
Otherwise it’s a guilty on you as there is no vig
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Post Post #2134 (isolation #197) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 am

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In post 2133, Datisi wrote:
In post 2130, MathBlade wrote:Otherwise it’s a guilty on you as there is no vig
aren't you allegedly a backup n1 vig lol???
Correct.

But backups don’t require the role to exist. Only implies it.
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #198) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:17 am

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In post 2135, House wrote:
In post 2130, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2120, Datisi wrote:because i am definitely the type of egoistical masochistic asshole to plan a bus on page 8, you got it

i know how weak roles work, that's why i'm calling the inno bullshit

have fun with vig fishing i guess
It’s not fishing.
If there is a vig they should claim who they shot and then become inno
And we do whatever the fuck they want.
Otherwise it’s a guilty on you as there is no vig
Fine, Math.

Hardclaim vig


n1) meant to target frog, pm didn't send but I thought it did. Fucking glitch.
n2) OutworldER

Dammit.
VOTE: Something Smart

Let’s gooo!

House is a double voter
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Post Post #2140 (isolation #199) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 am

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In post 2135, House wrote:
In post 2130, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2120, Datisi wrote:because i am definitely the type of egoistical masochistic asshole to plan a bus on page 8, you got it

i know how weak roles work, that's why i'm calling the inno bullshit

have fun with vig fishing i guess
It’s not fishing.
If there is a vig they should claim who they shot and then become inno
And we do whatever the fuck they want.
Otherwise it’s a guilty on you as there is no vig
Fine, Math.

Hardclaim vig


n1) meant to target frog, pm didn't send but I thought it did. Fucking glitch.
n2) OutworldER

Dammit.
Datisi is still scum btw. Like seriously.
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