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Post Post #22 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:13 pm

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In post 0, lilith2013 wrote:
Exploiting or attempting to gain an in-game advantage by exploiting forum software.


Similar to exploiting game/site rules, forum software is not meant to be used as an in-game tactic. Using any aspect of the forum software to attempt to prove or confirm yourself or your statements can also hold more weight than regular gameplay arguments and harm game integrity. This includes tactics such as: setting your online status to show your most recent login and not logging in for the entirety of the night phase to "prove" that you did not submit any night actions; registering with a username with non-alphanumeric characters and using this to "prove" that you could not be mafia because you would not be able to be added to a mafia PT; etc. You are allowed to make statements about when you or other players were or were not online, as long as you do not attempt to use the forum software to prove it.
To clarify, is using the Online status of other players as proof that you aren't scum with them, unacceptable?
(In my opinion, it should be.)

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Post Post #32 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:04 pm

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In post 30, implosion wrote:
In post 22, RH9 wrote:
In post 0, lilith2013 wrote:
Exploiting or attempting to gain an in-game advantage by exploiting forum software.


Similar to exploiting game/site rules, forum software is not meant to be used as an in-game tactic. Using any aspect of the forum software to attempt to prove or confirm yourself or your statements can also hold more weight than regular gameplay arguments and harm game integrity. This includes tactics such as: setting your online status to show your most recent login and not logging in for the entirety of the night phase to "prove" that you did not submit any night actions; registering with a username with non-alphanumeric characters and using this to "prove" that you could not be mafia because you would not be able to be added to a mafia PT; etc. You are allowed to make statements about when you or other players were or were not online, as long as you do not attempt to use the forum software to prove it.
To clarify, is using the Online status of other players as proof that you aren't scum with them, unacceptable?
(In my opinion, it should be.)
Not certain what's being asked here - how would online status be used as proof of this?
Like saying that you could have quickhammered when this other player was online. And because a quickhammer did not occur, you two aren't scum together.

(This is purely hypothetical.)

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Post Post #47 (isolation #2) » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:31 pm

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In post 46, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 32, RH9 wrote:
In post 30, implosion wrote:
In post 22, RH9 wrote:
In post 0, lilith2013 wrote:
Exploiting or attempting to gain an in-game advantage by exploiting forum software.


Similar to exploiting game/site rules, forum software is not meant to be used as an in-game tactic. Using any aspect of the forum software to attempt to prove or confirm yourself or your statements can also hold more weight than regular gameplay arguments and harm game integrity. This includes tactics such as: setting your online status to show your most recent login and not logging in for the entirety of the night phase to "prove" that you did not submit any night actions; registering with a username with non-alphanumeric characters and using this to "prove" that you could not be mafia because you would not be able to be added to a mafia PT; etc. You are allowed to make statements about when you or other players were or were not online, as long as you do not attempt to use the forum software to prove it.
To clarify, is using the Online status of other players as proof that you aren't scum with them, unacceptable?
(In my opinion, it should be.)
Not certain what's being asked here - how would online status be used as proof of this?
Like saying that you could have quickhammered when this other player was online. And because a quickhammer did not occur, you two aren't scum together.

(This is purely hypothetical.)
I'd consider "proving it" to be something like sending screenshots of the list of people who are online, but I can see why you're thinking this. I also want to point out that the online list doesn't actually constitute proof of alignment because users can hide their online status and wouldn't show up on the list, but attempting to prove it would still be against the rules. Ultimately we'd probably decide on a case by case basis whether we believe game integrity was impacted, which is our primary metric for taking action on OGI.
Thanks for the clarification, Lilith!

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Post Post #109 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:19 pm

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I do think that the rules on talking about ongoing games are good because it means less dependance on things outside of the game which you're currently playing. However, I think that it isn't entirely right to assume that somebody having a vague reason is referring to ongoing games because some people do genuinely play like that. On the other hand, I honestly think that vague reasons shouldn't be the primary option for SRs when there are good reasons to SR somebody other than them.

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Post Post #132 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:45 pm

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In post 131, DkKoba wrote:elitelling is when you call someone out for being active on another part of the site and specifically not in the game thread. i have no clue where the name originated but this is what it means
I think that the name originates from this. (At least, according to Google.)

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Post Post #140 (isolation #5) » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:22 pm

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In post 139, DkKoba wrote:why people play mafia to only win as 1 alignment is beyond me, I am proud of the fact I can hold my own as *both* alignments and not because I play poorly as 1, the game is so much more interesting from your pov if you play to win always
I agree.

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