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[Dwlee99]

Hi hello

Get rid of all hyperposters first

VOTE: T3

I don't want to kill t3

VOTE: Hockeyfan

[Dwlee99]

What is different between fireisredsir and surye in that regard?

[Dwlee99]

There's like no difference homie

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: fireisredsir
I feel like 17 is kinda awkward

[Dwlee99]

I did that already keep up

[Dwlee99]

Aren't we all

[Dwlee99]

Then vote him?

[Dwlee99]

But is your read on surye stronger?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Dwlee

This is number one on my list right now.

Scorpius is number two.

VOTE: Stephen
I'm sorry you repped into a scum slot

[Dwlee99]

Nero Cain is here to vote scum but then not get listened to

Nero I need more of this less of whatever is happening with Hockey

Unless you're right on hockey and this is the not get listened to phase

[Dwlee99]

No your list sucks and so you die

[Dwlee99]

You've ignored any actual happenings in the thread in favor of throwing together a random list based on nothing

[Dwlee99]

It makes you scum unless you explain <something> which I am not going to give you for free

[Dwlee99]

It's completely self-evident why that comes from scum

[Dwlee99]

"Why is it scummy to replace in, ignore any of the actual content, and then make a nonsensical scum list?" is what you're asking me right now

[Dwlee99]

Because it's self-evident? What

[Dwlee99]

Things that are self-evident are the hardest to put into words

You might as well ask me why I don't like being punched in the face

[Dwlee99]

"Why is it scummy to replace in, ignore any of the actual content, and then make a nonsensical scum list?" is what you're asking me right now

Ignore this post all you want, you're still scum

[Dwlee99]

It's fundamentally zero solve

[Dwlee99]

Unless

It makes you scum unless you explain <something> which I am not going to give you for free

Here's where I wait for you explanation which I am not giving you

[Dwlee99]

I honestly already said too much

[Dwlee99]

I already answered it

[Dwlee99]

Yes I did. Good talk

[Dwlee99]

Yes I did

[Dwlee99]

I already did LOL

[Dwlee99]

You're not even pretending to be reading my posts

[Dwlee99]

I'm not repeating it for you, sorry. Go find it yourself

[Dwlee99]

I did

[Dwlee99]

I did already though

[Dwlee99]

I actually did you just haven't read my posts

[Dwlee99]

You know that if you post more that doesn't make you more correct or less scum?

[Dwlee99]

You're the one wasting my time asking me to go fetch things for you instead of finding it yourself

[Dwlee99]

Read them again maybe you'll see it then?

[Dwlee99]

That isn't it. Keep going

[Dwlee99]

I mean that's closer to an answer but not there yet

[Dwlee99]

Why don't you want to feel pain stephen

[Dwlee99]

It's fundamentally zero solve

this is another dodge

Oh cool you found it and called it a dodge

[Dwlee99]

Unless

It makes you scum unless you explain <something> which I am not going to give you for free

Here's where I wait for you explanation which I am not giving you

this is a whataboutism

I'm asking you to explain YOUR thought process so I can sort you. That's not whataboutism

[Dwlee99]

Greeting,
We need a centered Stephen a VS DWLEE stat!!!

Also, Stephen is my new favorite player, I read every post in his voice.

Is this meant for the scum thread? LOL

[Dwlee99]

I already told you where I answered the question. Are you seriously not reading anything?

[Dwlee99]

This got old. Cya later

[Dwlee99]

Oh before I go
VOTE: Scorpius
I'm pretty sure he literally scum slipped by saying him and greeting should try to play into our fight

Read 142 and tell me what the hell that means other than my interpretation of it (but don't post it til Scorpius explains it himself)

If you actually want to vote scum go here, Stephen

[Dwlee99]

Oh I understand what you meant
UNVOTE:
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[Dwlee99]

maybe stephen town for continuing to persits 1 thing instead of just letting it go(cuz it doesn't benefit him as mafia to do this).

This depends on who Stephen's main is

[Dwlee99]

you ignored all the meat of what had happened in the game so far, which usually comes from wanting to avoid having to commit to anything or having to come up with a genuine-sounding thought on stuff. there's an obvious scum motivation for that. it's also just classic scumplay to ignore the leading wagon and get distracted by other stuff, town usually will at least comment about why they're ignoring it

Ok show me where [they] say that.

That's just the long version of "it is zero solve"

[Dwlee99]

FA: What you are calling "branching" is Andante's playstyle.

[Dwlee99]

I respectfully disagree, finding scum and town can be down by making people "react" to things. It's not about the momentary solving or the leadership attitude as both alignments can have it. It's about making people jump on things and then question them about how they thought making that jump was a valid move based on their thought process and scum fail in that as they have no valid/consistant thought process. At least that's my take and that's what I saw he did there that I liked.

I mean I was waiting for Stephen to say this but he never did

[Dwlee99]

To make yourself look like town

[Dwlee99]

You ever play with the one and only DkKoba?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Eyes without a face
This kill the replacement thing is silly and I don't like it

[Dwlee99]

hockey can you vote eyes?

[Dwlee99]

Eyes is the obvious LHF right now, but are they scum?

Maybe yea

[Dwlee99]

Yea no rush we have a few days

[Dwlee99]

They actually fabricated a bunch of reads when questioned and had some reactions in-game.

When?

[Dwlee99]

Early townreads on both Andante and Dwlee for seemingly being the driving forces of the game getting out of RVS so quickly.

Well I know this is going to bring a lot of heat my way but I should let you all know I tend to suspect replacements more. I guess it was DGB (if memory serves me right) that once said if we eliminate all replacements town always wins (or something to that effect).

Anyway welcome FA.

Also @Andante I do appreciate the townread but something tells me I have yet to earn it. Do you tend to townread people who townread you?

Dwlee99 replaces LicketyQuickety.

[Dwlee99]

I am thinking eyes + FA could be partnered

[Dwlee99]

yeap that's what I was trying to say

But isn't this a huge cognitive dissonance that indicates eyes is scum?

[Dwlee99]

There's a difference between cognitive dissonance and not paying attention/changing your mind etc.

And if you think all the reads are fabricated then ???

[Dwlee99]

We aren't limming you andante

[Dwlee99]

@Dwlee, in 505, u said eyes+FA could be partnered(presumably cuz of 503?), but why are u big on that being a partnery psot, when the same logic can be applied to u. Eyes TR'D you even after u being a replacement

FA defense + Eyes treating me and FA different for same thing could indicate FA and I are different alignments if eyes is scum which would make me think she is scum

[Dwlee99]

@Dwlee, in 505, u said eyes+FA could be partnered(presumably cuz of 503?), but why are u big on that being a partnery psot, when the same logic can be applied to u. Eyes TR'D you even after u being a replacement

FA defense + Eyes treating me and FA different for same thing could indicate FA and I are different alignments if eyes is scum which would make me think she is scum

Pray tell how I treated you differently. Citation needed of you please

It's pretty obvious

[Dwlee99]

Vote me back or die a coward

[Dwlee99]

Vote me back or die a coward

He claimed we understood it wrong that he was hinting at my slot with his theory posted

what do you about what he said? how will this change your opinion on the slot if it will?

Yes. I think they are still scum

That they're hedgy around voting me for something they think is scummy just further cements it for me

[Dwlee99]

No offense to any Bufords out there but I would hate to be named Buford.

[Dwlee99]

Can we just kill eyes

[Dwlee99]

Eyes still isn't voting me. Please kill

[Dwlee99]

I don't care about whatever is happening with FA/Nero

I sorted both slots town individually, I don't care about this fight.

Eyes is acting scared to actually play the game.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE ME

[Dwlee99]

I don't care about whatever is happening with FA/Nero

I sorted both slots town individually, I don't care about this fight.

Eyes is acting scared to actually play the game.

This is exactly how I expect scum Dwlee to act. Appear focused on one slot and shrug off anything else. They don't even care to take sides on whther someone is right or wrong regardless of their alignment. They decided both slots are town and thus will not comment (so as not to impplicate themselves and/or alienate someone or another). Assuming Nero and Dwlee are scum together Dwlee doesn't want to create a link with their scum buddy. Assuming Nero is town Dwlee does not want to alienate either of Frozen/Nero because they both can bite.

Okay so vote me loo

[Dwlee99]

Like you apparently have this meta knowledge of me you're trying to claim. You're speaking in very absolute terms about my slot... why aren't you voting me? Like if you're town why would you not be voting me right now?

[Dwlee99]

I don't care about whatever is happening with FA/Nero

I sorted both slots town individually, I don't care about this fight.

Eyes is acting scared to actually play the game.

This is exactly how I expect scum Dwlee to act. Appear focused on one slot and shrug off anything else. They don't even care to take sides on whther someone is right or wrong regardless of their alignment. They decided both slots are town and thus will not comment (so as not to impplicate themselves and/or alienate someone or another). Assuming Nero and Dwlee are scum together Dwlee doesn't want to create a link with their scum buddy. Assuming Nero is town Dwlee does not want to alienate either of Frozen/Nero because they both can bite.

It's also interesting to me that eyes does the case coverage on Nero's alignment, not Frozen's.

[Dwlee99]

Someone has to be a first vote on a wagon. Also — I don't know who you are

[Dwlee99]

Town game https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13214557

[Dwlee99]

It's also interesting to me that eyes does the case coverage on Nero's alignment, not Frozen's.

Anyone with half a brain who was reading my posts for comprehension would know I already had frozen as a town lean while Nero is at the bottom of my read list only second to you

Yea but are you so confident that I couldn't be scum with frozen, especially after I played you/frozen as possibly partnered and continued pushing you?

[Dwlee99]

Y'all feeling townie rn

[Dwlee99]

Y'all feeling townie rn

How about a full readlist with some reasoning then?

LOL no

[Dwlee99]

LOL no

[Dwlee99]

Is 861 a copypasta?

[Dwlee99]

Didn't Scorpius early game Vt and then we didn't kill him and he was scum like a few minis ago

[Dwlee99]

Please just vote eyes

[Dwlee99]

Nero & FA

Y'all have played a lot right? Together? Do not get that impression from reading these.

[Dwlee99]

Eyes is not t3. T3 is taking a 6 month break and also repped out

[Dwlee99]

Vig him or something if you feel that strong about it

[Dwlee99]

Scorpius, isn't umlaut doing proportionally plenty? Relative to other people? I at least think Umlaut has posted more content than I have.

[Dwlee99]

Scorpius, isn't umlaut doing proportionally plenty? Relative to other people? I at least think Umlaut has posted more content than I have.

Also, I think you're coasting too much. I know town you makes reads/whatnot, I'd love to see some more of that. Maybe Stephen was right....

Touché

[Dwlee99]

bored VT

wait, I just had the most random realization about this post

When did you ever see me play VT?

[Dwlee99]

Scorpius, isn't umlaut doing proportionally plenty? Relative to other people? I at least think Umlaut has posted more content than I have.

Also, I think you're coasting too much. I know town you makes reads/whatnot, I'd love to see some more of that. Maybe Stephen was right....

Touché

I'm also on to you... Scorpius + Dwlee team?

What do I have to do with scorpius at all

[Dwlee99]

bored VT

wait, I just had the most random realization about this post

When did you ever see me play VT?

not sure,but you've been in like all my games since i came back.

Oh right I just repeated that you were scum like all of day 2 and then got night killed and then you were town. Funny

[Dwlee99]

I only vigged one town ;-;

[Dwlee99]

Are you gonna look at litreally anyone else? cuz eyes seems towny to me

If I have to, and I disagree.

[Dwlee99]

Have u read thier iso after 751? Idk but thier posts are pretty fcking towny

I mean I read the part about me and I think it's bad and they're still sitting on an RVS vote so :shrug:

[Dwlee99]

This wagon actually reeks wow

[Dwlee99]

@Andante

Nero Cain [6]:

Frozen Angel, the worst, Stephen A Smith, Greeting, Umlaut, Andante

I townread... FA? For effort mostly kinda a lazy read? Stephen was still weird to me. Everyone else I kinda feel meh about? I mean at least half this wagon has to be town so I'll give you that at least

[Dwlee99]

Cool story duckie

[Dwlee99]

Guys what if we killed eyes

[Dwlee99]

Nero? Rabbit? Yay or nay?

[Dwlee99]

Why can't we wagon eyes

[Dwlee99]

Be the change you wish to see. We are at 62 pages with a scummy player having claimed VT and it feels like we want to draw out more claims for no reason right now.

[Dwlee99]

eyes was a LHF wagon when it started, then he showed up and started actually posting and he's been fine imo.

dwlee do you have reasons besides that you didn't like the kill the replacement thing and that he didn't vote you when you were his top suspicion? i don't see anything else from your iso

He's just continued being scummy and his reasoning for scumreading me is lazy, wrong, and he is hard shading me without actually pushing anything. He wrote like I was near confirmed scum and did nothing with it which yea that's the vote thing but that's a simplification of my argument here. I also just think these recent wagons feel scummy af, we have a deluge of content no one is going to be looking through in ELO, and my top scumread claimed VT while we might out PRs by continuing this random wagonfest.

[Dwlee99]

Also, this sounds like a contradiction, but the way eyes reacted to the nero/greeting wagons and then joined onto Scorpius gave me the heebie jeebies

[Dwlee99]

eyes is voting greeting not scorp

He voted scorp then greeting

[Dwlee99]

None of my reads have really changed in the past idk a while

[Dwlee99]

have we all learned nothing from this game? Consistency is a town tell so sayeth Frozen. Never mind the fact the scum are the ones that will try to stay super consistent so they don't get called on being inconsistent.

but it's not like a 09' join date knows anything.

Yeah, let’s vote all the most consistently towny players in the game because they are all scum trying to look like that. Your 09’ joindate doesn’t make this look more credible, but more ridiculous.

Nero's literally right

[Dwlee99]

Nero's literally right

an eyes lim isn't gonna happen today. who else you got

I think I'm at the point I'd hammer anything that gets to E-1 unless it's your slot

[Dwlee99]

No, he’s literally not.

Literally anything in this game can be countered by saying that „this can just be good scumplay”. The argument can be applied to any possible objective town sign one exhibits.

Yes he is lol

[Dwlee99]

Look Nero could be scum here and be right about this

[Dwlee99]

Inconsistency is seen as a scum tell. As the metagame has evolved, this has resulted in a realigning of consistency with levels of scumminess. No I don't feel like elaborating further

[Dwlee99]

Look Nero could be scum here and be right about this

scum and right? which team are you playing for here lol

VOTE: Nero Cain

As promised. I am down to yeet him or the duck right now.

I'll get duck tomorrow!!! (or tonight )

Whatever team you're on

[Dwlee99]

Frozen I have no idea what you're talking about because I read none of the context

[Dwlee99]

I was informed pregame you're town

[Dwlee99]

I was informed pregame you're town

hmmmm

I'm your sheep now baaa

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: For Andante ONLY

Eyes please

[Dwlee99]

I will hammer greeting sure

[Dwlee99]

Treat the game like not mafia is in it. I'm hammering anything that hits E-1

[Dwlee99]

DW,
Would you leave the voted alive long enough to claim?

Eh... Depending on my mood

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Greeting

GOOD NIGHT

77 PAGES OF HELL

[Dwlee99]

Hammer is real?

Yes I murdered em

[Dwlee99]

Nope

[Dwlee99]

Unless this flips scum then I'm conftown

[Dwlee99]

Can we kill eyes next actually

[Dwlee99]

Nah

[Dwlee99]

Are you actually flipping town

[Dwlee99]

Okay

[Dwlee99]

Andante get rid of eyes please

[Dwlee99]

Andante, not ducks, eyes

[Dwlee99]

Like for real

[Dwlee99]

Also why are you being so obvious

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: eyes

[Dwlee99]

I really want eyes dead pls

[Dwlee99]

Eyes is just scum and if you wanna make 70 more pages of posts instead of limming them be my guest I guess

[Dwlee99]

Do you actually want me to read more of the game before I flip my number one suspect

[Dwlee99]

So I went back and checked for funsies

There are 56 pages of things since we should have killed eyes

I have skimmed these

I have not read these in depth and if you have you have devoted much more time to this game than I have

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: dwlee

VOTE: eyes

why vote eyes here tho?

Presumably the vig shot failed so scum wanted it to fail. If it was gonna hit town it wouldn't have been blocked sooo

[Dwlee99]

[strikethrough]eyes is scum[/strikethrough]
Eyes lacks genuineness, their entrance today is arguably TMI

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: dwlee

VOTE: eyes

why vote eyes here tho?

Presumably the vig shot failed so scum wanted it to fail. If it was gonna hit town it wouldn't have been blocked sooo

I'm not a vig, I think that much is pretty clear....

I thought I could bait scum to night kill you tbh

[Dwlee99]

[strikethrough]eyes is scum[/strikethrough]
Eyes lacks genuineness, their entrance today is arguably TMI

It's always tough to comment on someone that has a vote on you cause its easy to hit me up with the defensive case, however. His entire case on making me a counterwagon started with the word "assume".

Vote me because you think I'm scum, don't make up so equation that if this does this then that will happen and cause this.

I would support this lim as well. But not enough to come off Nero.

Well eyes also had me as a top scumread for a long time and despite this has just been straight up ignoring me/not voting me/etc.

[Dwlee99]

Okay then vote them ty

[Dwlee99]

Why do I need to find a partner ???

Give me one example of a player who can't be partnered with eyes.

[Dwlee99]

Why do I need to find a partner ???

Give me one example of a player who can't be partnered with eyes.

Scorp

Why?

[Dwlee99]

Eyes' main SR is scorp, and I dont think eyes is bussing

That's so shallow lol

[Dwlee99]

come with up more than 1 sus and come back to me pls

You don't even know if I do have more than one (I do) it's just no need to push it here cause I want eyes

[Dwlee99]

I've been pretty meh on Eyes so far and was literally in the middle of writing a post about how I could vote him, then got ninja'd by 2162.

The fact that Nero and Eyes are the two leading wagons, have been all day, and Eyes is

defending

Nero, is enough to sell me on Eyes town for now.

This pains me so much

[Dwlee99]

I'll agree to lim Umlaut on the understanding we flip eyes next

[Dwlee99]

I have presented my case and umlaut has associatives with Umlaut

[Dwlee99]

With eyes lol

[Dwlee99]

I bet if I click that link you'll actually do townie things there

[Dwlee99]

I am a psychic

Here is my proof

I bet if I click that link you'll actually do townie things there

eyes idk if this game link really helps your case... in that game you seem wayyy more secure in your own thoughts and you are consistently trying to solve the game in your own way. there's none of that tone shifting that i kept seeing here, i don't ever see you putting up a front, you're straightforward about the way you work and you just get to it, i don't see much of trying to buddy up to people or anything like that.

[Dwlee99]

Eyes is still scum btw

[Dwlee99]

LET'S GO

FINALLY

THANK YOU DUCKIE

[Dwlee99]

BLESS BLESS BLESS

[Dwlee99]

For the past like 6 hours I've been sitting here wondering if I should fake a guilty of some sort and was like "omg what if I'm wrong, that would be so bad"

[Dwlee99]

Eyes is scum, mechguilty or not

[Dwlee99]

nero hockey dwlee probly all scum

You're town but your reads kinda poop rn

[Dwlee99]

Just trust me on that one

[Dwlee99]

They literally posted a game of theirs saying "wow look, people pushing me evil ><" and their play was completely different. Idk what to tell you

[Dwlee99]

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

[Dwlee99]

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

Did you hint at this anywhere?

By not voting the Nero wagon?

[Dwlee99]

I don't know why I'd want to hint that someone was a PR if I thought it

[Dwlee99]

I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm

[Dwlee99]

???

[Dwlee99]

They literally posted a game of theirs saying "wow look, people pushing me evil ><" and their play was completely different. Idk what to tell you

THIS from someone who maintains that "meta bad" doesn't look like a farce at all, does it?

Dude who are you an alt of lmao

[Dwlee99]

I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm

Do you really believe scum doubles down on a VT claim when told someone has a mech guilty on them?

Yes what is the other option

[Dwlee99]

I swear we are never going to kill eyes lol

If there is a vigilante please for the love of god shoot eyes tyvm

Do you really believe scum doubles down on a VT claim when told someone has a mech guilty on them?

Yes what is the other option

Claim like Ascetic Visitor or some other low- to negative-utility role, and say you were happy to eat a launch because you were probably worse than a VT anyway.

That's a scum claim. If you didn't claim ascetic in first post...

[Dwlee99]

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

can you explain your thought process and show the progression?

Nero was acting like a PR, I thought he was a PR, I was right

[Dwlee99]

Imagine if we killed eyes instead of outing three power roles. Wow

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Scorpius
Whatever. I think this is scum (and with eyes)

[Dwlee99]

Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")

[Dwlee99]

I felt like Nero was obviously a PR even D1 sad

can you explain your thought process and show the progression?

Nero was acting like a PR, I thought he was a PR, I was right

You need to give me more than that.

like I read post # ___ and it made me think Nero was PR because ___ thought came into my head

I haven't been keeping notes so no clue

[Dwlee99]

Well I do have some now that I've reread something but I don't feel like sharing what made me think he is a PR now that I figured out why I thought that

[Dwlee99]

Gunsmith implies vigilante and based on Nero's claim and no shot N1, I'm guessing there is an even-night vigilante out there. So we can hopefully conftown that player tomorrow and shoot into the poe tonight.

[Dwlee99]

Well I do have some now that I've reread something but I don't feel like sharing what made me think he is a PR now that I figured out why I thought that

he's already claimed PR so you don't really have an excuse why not to share it

I don't feel like outing PR tells

[Dwlee99]

Stephen I need you to help me out here and not push on Hockey who is near conftown right now unless the team is like Nero/Hockey/Eyes exactly.

[Dwlee99]

It is also playing to win this game — outing a tell could help scum find other PRs

[Dwlee99]

I mean the last time I listened to you about an EN Gunsmith claim we got punked so I don't have the greatest confidence in your PR reading skills

Yea but there I didn't have a prior PR read. And like you have to understand that if I knew who that player was I would have killed them but I thought it was a main with a 2021 join date

[Dwlee99]

Also I won us that game pretty much like game was solved but I digress

[Dwlee99]

Town voted you over literal confscum, not my fault homie

And if Nero gets limmed here y'all are throwing

[Dwlee99]

vote count 2.08

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-02-28 12:45:00).

yeet

Nero Cain [3]:

Stephen A Smith, Andante, the worst

Scorpious [2]:

wavemode, HockeyFan

Andante [2]:

Nero Cain, Umlaut

the worst [2]:

Eyes without a face, Scorpious

Eyes without a face [1]:

Dwlee99

not voting [1]:

fireisredsir

mod notes

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VOTE: Scorpius
Whatever. I think this is scum (and with eyes)

lets try this one more time..

VOTE: Nero

Like c'mon just vote Scorpius. Maybe when this flips red the vigilante will put some amount of faith in me and shoot eyes too

[Dwlee99]

Hard claiming no investigative result on eyes here. I just think they're scum

[Dwlee99]

like on a power level

those literally don't move the needle

it's literally garbage

and considering you're claiming some kind of guilty on Eyes I think you should be skeptical too

unless I guess you're saying you're odd night gunsmith

which then lol fuck this setup

I mean we also have a 1-shot rolecop claim and presumably 1-3 more possible town PRs out there

[Dwlee99]

Andante
the worst
Umlaut
Scorpious
Eyes without a face

In preference order (highest most want to lim)

Eyes
Scorpius
Umlaut
The Worst/Andante (kinda same feeling of just like "meh poe")

you want to most lim me? this is the first I'm hearing you sus me... like, you've wanted eyes dead all day? idk I'm confused on reading this, I'm top and bottom, so you most and least want me dead?

The second list is the ordered one, first list was copied from the OP

[Dwlee99]

Cause I townread the other five and I'm the sixth person not included

[Dwlee99]

Not really no

I think you're kinda null rn

The parts of you I want to townread I think fooled me when you were scum so I'm cautious here

[Dwlee99]

We are probably not looking at 4 TPRs unless the fourth is ridiculously strong

[Dwlee99]

Literally though like this info will come out on other days. We probably have an even-night vigilante or something else that can pick up as having a gun (I mean, backup gunsmith already fulfills that purpose of being a gun miller in a sense), so we should just go with limming scum like normal

[Dwlee99]

wait what's the 3rd pr claimed?
gs, gs backup, and?

A 1-shot rolecop that confirmed the GS backup

[Dwlee99]

the rolecop claimed he investigated the gs backup? lol what

what if I told you that I'm a 1-shot rolecop and I know for a fact that hockeyfan is a backup 1-shot gunsmith

so my knee jerk reaction to nero's claim was, how did he know to claim gunsmith of all things? hockey had not told us what he was a backup for

unless they are mafia GS and mafia backup GS? which, wow wtf. but it's technically possible I suppose. still, it's strange to claim that together and become joined at the hip (the typical risk associated with mason fakeclaims)

^

[Dwlee99]

NERO ahhh

[Dwlee99]

I want Scorpious or eyes. If you can't do those for whatever reason I need more than "let's get Andante instead"

[Dwlee99]

will u accept "wanted to eliminate the EN GS so mafia (presumably her team) can shoot the backup"

No

[Dwlee99]

Is there a particular reason to lim eyes over scorpious today?

Like okay I understand I've been pushing eyes longer but I felt like scorpious had more traction to begin with but now it's all going to Eyes? And I'm not quite sure why

[Dwlee99]

I also feel better about the likely hypothetical vigilante shooting the VT claim over an unclaimed person (scorpious)

[Dwlee99]

Okay mb
VOTE: Nero
Scorpious/Eyes still need to be looked into

Andante probably town off this

[Dwlee99]

Okay I still think scorpious looks bad

Ugh fuck okay

I thought no CC meant Nero was town, sorry steph

[Dwlee99]

Okay there goes the even-night vig theory I guess

Seems like my brain clicked a little too well there

Anyway
VOTE: Eyes

Jk
VOTE: Umlaut

[Dwlee99]

I like your pfp Dwlee.

Also, wave claiming 1-shot rolecop with a GS check on me, and then nero claiming gunsmith even though he was mafia alien enabler makes them to be paired, but I feel like thats too good to be true.

so tbh @andnate, i want wave over umulat here(for now), wbu?

Thanks! The mod drew it (:

[Dwlee99]

I thought the way Nero approached his wagon was a PR tell. When he reached E-1 he continued just doing whatever instead of immediately claiming which reminded me of when I was a vigilante and did the same thing. My post here

Nero? Rabbit? Yay or nay?

Was a reference to dogs vs cats mafia where nero was a vigilante cause I thought he could be a vigilante this game based on him responding similarly to the way I did when I was a vigilante to being wagoned

[Dwlee99]

Now we can wagon me for being believing the gunsmith claim in a setup with a gunsmith that held the CC, so y'know I was right to believe a gunsmith claim, when we also had a backup gunsmith claim and a rolecop claiming to confirm the backup gunsmith... or we could not do that

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Scorpious
Okay I still pushed scum let's go ???

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:
One sec

[Dwlee99]

Okay can we get a claim from... umlaut. It might be useful going into night phase if I can guess wave's third role lol