secret hitler II [7/7] (fascist victory!)

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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:55 pm

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ok sorry my math was off deck is 4L 5F
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:55 pm

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In post 592, Save The Dragons wrote:i want to know what the math is before i pass it
1 out of 3 (Peta hitler, pass government) is more probable than 1 out of 1 (Nein) is more probable than 2 out of 3 (Enchant hitler, pass government)
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:56 pm

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whick honestly.. idk how we wanna play this
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:56 pm

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I do know it's not for sure 2L 1 F
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:56 pm

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Just vote Ja.

While i voted nein i did because i didn't believe Andante before.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:56 pm

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Who, Dragons. do we want to gamble on the card flip from 4L 5F
or hope Enchant draws at least 2L
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:57 pm

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i wanna gamble on what has the best probability and that's what i'm confused about
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:57 pm

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I haven't voted so like, I wanna know what yall want to do
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:57 pm

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this is kind of suilly because its actually only a 10% swing as to whether we win or lose

but look at it this way

if we nein this gov: 2/5 chance of a liberal card flip, 40%

if we ja it: there are 10 possible card draws. we only in if enchant gets a combo with 2L's. There are 3 combinations of 2Ls and 1 of he Fs. that is a 30% chance
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:58 pm

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Or we can assume i just start openwolfing as hitler instead of silently agreeing with everything and waiting my turn so i can just win instantly?
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:58 pm

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yeah.. well deck is 100% 4-5 right now
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:58 pm

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i can go over the math in more detail
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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In post 609, Enchant wrote:Or we can assume i just start openwolfing as hitler instead of silently agreeing with everything and waiting my turn so i can just win instantly?
hitler can't be chancelor, no one said hitler couldn't be pres
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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It's... Well.

40-50%?
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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i think i just needed
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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peta, what are you thinking here then.. ja or nein
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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In post 610, Andante wrote:yeah.. well deck is 100% 4-5 right now
it's not 4-5

cards are taken out when they get passed

there can only be 2 liberal cards left in because the others got played
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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Okay done all the calculations:
If Peta is hitler and we vote Ja: Guaranteed win. (Even if 3 fascists, veto into guaranteed lib)
If Nein: 2/5 chance of win.
If Enchant is hitler and we vote Ja: 3/10 chance of win.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:59 pm

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In post 612, Andante wrote:
In post 609, Enchant wrote:Or we can assume i just start openwolfing as hitler instead of silently agreeing with everything and waiting my turn so i can just win instantly?
hitler can't be chancelor, no one said hitler couldn't be pres
If i am hitler and making in president i just force fascism and win instantly wtf.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:00 pm

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For this to happen i just needed to nod, and agree with you.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:00 pm

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hmmm fun, ok just nein it and see what happens?
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:00 pm

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In post 615, Andante wrote:peta, what are you thinking here then.. ja or nein
i laid out the math for why nein is optimal fmpov since i know enchant is hitler
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:00 pm

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My degeneracy confirms me as liberal
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:00 pm

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In post 618, Enchant wrote:
In post 612, Andante wrote:
In post 609, Enchant wrote:Or we can assume i just start openwolfing as hitler instead of silently agreeing with everything and waiting my turn so i can just win instantly?
hitler can't be chancelor, no one said hitler couldn't be pres
If i am hitler and making in president i just force fascism and win instantly wtf.
can't force it if you get 2 Ls
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:00 pm

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So two out of 100% 40% 30% are our options.
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