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Mama bear is here.

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April needs to die before Math.

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You think he's our traitor while TRing none of us?

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He's townreading too many town and the core.

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Ok well maybe he didn't FoS any of us either. April can live for now.

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Do we want to cage Enchant? I can, but it's a risk.

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Yes. Alien it again

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Enchant may just shoot town though. Kinda up in the air. Enchant isn't clear with reads. I also just finished a scum game with Enchant where I hard pocketed the town core.

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Let's lim VP then.

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Galron, you should claim a PR.

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Nevermind

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Ok we need you here.

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Frogsterking why bus. Now you are forcing my hand

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Yeet, psychologist?

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Invests after kills.

We may just kill yeet to frame Galron as innocent.

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Killing him and being wrong makes it look like we feared it anyway.

Also flashing eyes isn't serious. It's distancing. It should be too late.

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As long as it's not Galron

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Poor Math is tilted. :/

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I can just visit Math for my cover. Math will likely discredit himself. No one wants April. Galron is "cleared" if we shoot yeet, doubly so if he's the psychologist.

If we're wrong, we can say that scum must have thought yeet was an investigator so Galron is clear.

Then we just have me and eyes to worry about.

That's of course if the vig doesn't shoot.

We could have me cage Enchant and claim I visited Math.

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Frogsterking kills yeet
Titus aliens Enchant
Eyes targets Nero

Subject to change

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No problem. I just like actions early. I put subject to change so the mod knows they aren't locked.

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I understand where you're coming from but yeet being an investigative is a

town lead idea

. While Math suspects the scumteam, he's largely ineffective.

The idea to shoot yeet covers if we're right and wrong. If he flips psychologist, the inno is practically confirmed.

If he doesn't flip psychologist, then scum shot him thinking he was because they shot him over conftown. Thus Galron town.

We only need one to live.

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Any reason in particular to follow Nero?

Galron can you update us on what's going on in the 'hood when you get a chance?

I want to know if Nero's a PR because he's going to tunnel me yet again.

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I think if we turn this into VP versus Nero, we get a huge net positive. Either we get a Nero PR elimination or a VP elimination, which we can use to give credibility to VP's reads.

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Math should get zero traction on me. We'll see though.

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I think Math thoroughly discredited himself.

Galron, it would do wonders for you to support a Nero v VP thunderdome.

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Like he doesn't see that he's not the one working together now, nor does he see how the thread works with him. Kinda sad.

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I need to find a way off of eyes and through fire off my scent. If I jump off too early, that telegraphs partners

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How the hell did I survive Enchant?

We blocked him.

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I think we need to keep Math alive as an excuse to keep Galron alive. It would create the impression that Math is that bad. Instead we shoot Enchant.

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If Nero gets run up, Galron should consider CCing him. I wouldn't lock that plan in yet. I would toss that out there. Maybe a joat claim.

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I want to lose this argument and have VP get eliminated because we know he's not the traitor. Please help.

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Good job Frogster.

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If Nero gets run up, Galron should consider CCing him. I wouldn't lock that plan in yet. I would toss that out there. Maybe a joat claim.

?? Isn't Galron "cleared" by Yeet's flip?? Or are you mixing Galron with Frog??

I'm not. Nero's not getting run up today. We're likely killing him because he took a protective action last night.

If Nero gets run up, Galron CCs him. Galron is "clear" so Nero gets hammered.

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Then Galron claims it was a gambit and apologizes. The plan is worthless now because town won't vote Nero.

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A follower is a decent fakeclaim. The psychologist is an investigative that gets weaker over time usually. A follower gets stronger the more scum get flipped. It can verify some claims but doesn't get guilties. A no motion result means VT or a goon.

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Poor tene, my buddies are laughing and we are playing circles.

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I feel bad for Math. The objectively right response in his situation is to table Galron and insist on him commenting on everything under the sun to "form a townblock" and then just view everything he says with skepticism. State that he'll always think the clear is wrong but constantly search to be disproven. That type of finesse is not in his skillset. He doesn't know how to play with unpopular reads to gambit to catch reads or to use scum to catch other scum. His approach is see scum, eliminate scum, which forecloses communication.

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I'm literally FoSing my buddies that are still viable and Math is all, you will FoS town...

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If it goes to E minus 1, I'll hammer.

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Let's end the day guys. No use shopping or torturing town.

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Fire's right though.

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Eyes wtf are you doing?

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This VC makes zero sense. Two out of the three votes on the counterwagon on scum are scum themselves when scum are winning. IT's insane.

It does arguably set up a follower claim you can walk back from later eyes.

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Why do you wonder that?

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I think we definitely kill Nero tonight. Then Enchant. Then fire.

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A miselimination and a poor vig shot gets us to 12 alive tomorrow. With Nero dead.

That's mylo. If town believes accurately there's 5 scum.

Town no eliminates.

I actually change my mind here and we shoot Math to stop the Math voting Galron play at the end. It does leave a hero vig shot open, but we can just not celebrate at the end.

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A miselimination and a poor vig shot gets us to 12 alive tomorrow. With Nero dead.

That's mylo. If town believes accurately there's 5 scum.

Town no eliminates.

I actually change my mind here and we shoot Math to stop the Math voting Galron play at the end. It does leave a hero vig shot open, but we can just not celebrate at the end.

I was thinking Nero > Enchant > Math

Enchant gets 1 vig shot off

I was at first too. Here's the problem with that.

We get into 11 alive elo. Math forces a choice between him and Galron. Galron loses that everytime. 99% of players wouldn't force that play. Math would. Galron dying leaves me exposed which in turn exposes April if we're right on April being the traitor.

I'd rather deal with an Enchant being townread than a Math in elo.

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Damn Math is really going to tunnel Galron?

Yes. Short of a mod confirmation yes. Everyone who tries to explain Occam's Razor to him will get on his shit list this game. I already am on his shit list, so it's no harm. I also picked up a few townreads from trying patiently to reason with him.

It deterred quite a few scumreads to where I didn't need to worry about fire.

Because we know Nero is the doctor, we're set up perfectly for elo as there's only two real spots FoSing me. Fire and Math. Due to melo we drop Math.

Fire will have to reset because elo.

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Math's tunnels are infamous. It's made him look utterly unreasonable to half the town because he doesn't know how to play with an unpopular opinion.

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No. Math is resigned to not getting his way. He still scumreads Galron.

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Well it looks like we just go for the win tomorrow if Enchant misshoots lmao.

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Kinda think fire may have a point.

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This is not good guys. :/

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I have a lot of traitor suspects, StD Scorpious and April

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Math's being the most stubborn person insisting on eliminating town lmao. He actually won't listen to the people who are right.

you forgot to PM but I think I got what you wanted --- Mod

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*I don't know why my keys mistyped. I'll be PMing the mod requesting an edit.

I actually don't think it's April but I'm fighting for April in case I am wrong.

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I swear I am TRYING to cooperate with him and the town. They're being impossible. I legit am frustrated.

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Like we're trying not to ruin this game but...

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Go on?

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That would mean the traitor is widely considered town.....

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I think we're starting to wifom ourselves. There's no chance of five scum and an sk.

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I would love to read the dead chat right now. I'll have to design a game where scum get that boon.

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Why are you volunteering to be shot for the right answer?

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Like stop.... Galron you're our endgame, please don't beg to be shot again

This game has aged me 10 years

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I think we cracked Math. Like I'm trying to give him what he wants... he just won't commit. He wants to eliminate town. Like there's no more discussion. It's just pleas to the almighty Math.

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We still kill Nero tonight.

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DK?

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We give Math whomever he wants in the hood.

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We aren't limming Nero without ww3.

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Huh?

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This game is so frustrating. I can only imagine how it feels for town.

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Open enough to defend her.

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If Enchant targets Nero and we target Enchant do both Nero and Enchant die?

Unless Nero targets Enchant.

I think we always shoot Nero here though, even if it results in me dying. Can't have a doctor running around.

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The balance is royally fucked if town have any more PRs.

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I feel town got a little screwed by the odds of one of 2 scum being fake cleared.

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I'll try to do VCA over nightphase. It will be very very hard to fake.

Titus kills Nero

Please submit investigatives on whomever you want.

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Or we can hold...

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I'll try to do VCA over nightphase. It will be very very hard to fake.

Titus kills Nero

Please submit investigatives on whomever you want.

What? You're not caging Enchant?

I'm out of shots.

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Request fast night once our invest is submitted

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Yes.

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Just me. I don't think I am allowed for the team.

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Any hood updates Galron? Are Cape and Nero saying anything?

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So they both scumread Boon. We can use that

if Math keeps his current trajectory

. Not sure if that's wise though.

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Ok so if Enchant shot someone other than Nero, Nero saved them.

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If I feel better, I'll try some antispew but kill Math and kill Fire seems to be the play. As long as we remove anyone genuinely FoSing Galron, we win.

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Guys StD is the traitor, not April.

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We actually should kill Enchant tonight and not Math

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If Enchant is not faded today, they become unfadable. However, my town core is obliterated.

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Well we could argue SK

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I kinda want Math April alive and to just TR all of Math and Fire's scumreads for wifom but I feel like that would be considered mean rather than strategic.

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Enchant wifom inserted. I doubt they are SK.

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I need to warn StD to wet fish somehow and that his BP is gone

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Oh wait, StD is bulletproof to all. Still a problem as he goes tomorrow if they're mechanically smart.

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Enchant's meme made my cry in a happy way.

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I want you guys to liminate me while I try to "slip" Frogster as town.

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Seriously, Math is discrediting himself worse than I ever could.

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Sorry I am stuck bussing.

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StD is as good as dead when I flip.

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It's ok if we murder StD when I flip.

Galron, after I flip, you should take the position that StD is mechanically scum.

I will flip 2 shot alien. Nero wouldn't heal StD with Enchant and Math alive. StD had to survive somehow. StD isn't town. This town is competent enough to see that. It's free cred.

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Kill Math
Kill Enchant
Kill Fire

Win

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Good luck. Y'all are an awesome scumteam.

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Actually, kill Enchant first.

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It won't be elo and the longer the game goes on, the more accurate Enchant will be.

Math will give us at least one miselim but must die pre elo to save Galron.