Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Enchant]

Hi i am Mafia Goon.

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Shitpost is means we can't talk about game or what

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I will Participicate.

Warrior Tree	Sneak Tree	Mage Tree
1-shot Bullet Proof	1-shot Ninja	1-shot Miller
1-shot Body Guard	1-shot rolestop	1-shot doctor
1-shot Engineer	1-shot Engineer	1-shot Engineer

Cost:

1 XP

-You may buy from any tree at any time.
-Purchase order goes from the top row first to the bottom row last.
-After the 3 rows are filled you can spend

1 XP

to gain a 4th hidden ability.

From what we can see of the Warrior and Mage trees, the Mage tree seems to be strictly

inferior

to Warrior for the town. Not taking into account their hidden abilities, or any roles which may incline people towards picking made for other reasons.

Anyone want to claim to be going for Mage tree and becoming a miller?

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Spoiler:

VOTE: Dunnstral

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[Enchant]

Cuz it's wine.

[Enchant]

Okay, quick post. *angry growls*

- JF

P.S And yes, I am crumbing my flavors, as per tradition.

You failed challenge btw.

[Enchant]

But you went to check!

[Enchant]

But you went to check!

What's that mean?

I kNoW tRuTh YoU cHeCkEd If ThAtS lIe

[Enchant]

Imo if someone didn't understand, i am walking mage way.

[Enchant]

Titus, please look something and say what you think.

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[Enchant]

This game seems a little stagnant, and while I'm not in a state to focus on things here currently, I would at least like to move things along so when I am in the mood things will be more active.
VOTE: Dunnstral
Out of the existing votes, this is the one I like the most. I don't really get the issue about scum knowing or not knowing certain things but the other votes either feel barely substantiated or are not ones I agree with.

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My vote is just shitpost of fireball in response of insulting of magery.

[Enchant]

You get XP for eluminations!

VOTE: Gypix

[Enchant]

You can't engineer grave.

... Well unless you build fancy tombstones, maybe crosses, also... fe

[Enchant]

I buy another chance to perform challenge for 0.25XP

Because of Gypix i failed my challenge.

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[Enchant]

I need five posts.

UNVOTE:

Just five...

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[Enchant]

It means you are cause.

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[Enchant]

Everyone fear to post and fail challenge.

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[Enchant]

SaMe HeRe

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VOTE: Shiro

Sure, why not. Kinda hate that this post challenge is making people not want to post, it isn't even a real restriction do idk why anyone is treating it like one. It's a little scum sided in that sense, since if no one is posting than scum can't get sussed out for lurking.

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It's design...
You either get XP, or you play normally.

Hold up with hammer, we talking in hood about Gypix.

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[Enchant]

So anyway.
Gypix claimed in our hood. Role is ... Fine..., nothing to get stars from, semi-useful.

He looks apathethic though, but it's always like that.

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[Enchant]

VOTE: Titus

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[Enchant]

I feel Dunn is playing politically.

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asking questions is political or is there something i'm missing here?

I don't really feel any agression or energy from Dunn. He's capable of more

Titus... Challenge...

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

NoT sUrE aT tHiS pOiNt If I sHoUlD tO wRiTe LiKe ThAt AlWaYs

[Enchant]

Blatant PGO.

[Enchant]

Do you really try to outlie each other?

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[Enchant]

We discussing how mages are better than snakes thiefs and brute warriors.

And also mechtalking, we have good ideas to implement.


ACCEPT MAGE SUPREMACY.

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[Enchant]

I thinked about bulletproofs and what i say.

Firstly: It's obvious ACTIVE ability. It means, you need to activate it at one night to become bulletproof for exact night. I don't think mod will even allows everyone to get "One-Shot Imunnity".
Second: If Mod really allows everyone to get "One-Shot Immunity", then consider that we are in fantasy setting. How the fuck bulletproof protect from knife, sword, crossbow bolt and... Well you get idea.
Third: Everyone can buy from any three. But supreme tree is Mage one.

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[Enchant]

LoL

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LLD not in out Hood.

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[Enchant]

I don't really see it as impossibility to have one hoodless person, especially if hoods are balanced.

HA CLASSLESS?

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2/5

Oh I meant to include this.

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Unvote: PookyTheMagicalBear

Indeed, if you look XP rules, there's no requirement to "Stay" on wagon, only vote.
But i think, it's simple error. Otherwise there's no reason to not simple vote/unvote for everyone.

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[Enchant]

My mind

LLD fakeclaiming just to kill Pooky. Real masons mostly care to not reveal self, because main advantage of having Masonry is ability to quickhammer everyone outside.
If you are fakeclaiming as town, then first it's not helping, second, if you need fakeclaiming to convince, then you are poor player overall and why even i need to listen to you?

If you are scum, well. Nice try.

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[Enchant]

LoL

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[Enchant]

Seems like everyone townread their hoods.

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[Enchant]

Who you not townread.

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[Enchant]

I HATE YOU TITUS.

[Enchant]

GO RETRY CHALLENGE OR NOTHING.

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[Enchant]

LoL

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[Enchant]

GO RETRY CHALLENGE OR NOTHING.

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You comply with what we agreed to or die after Pooky. Blocking gamebreaking doesn't work no matter your excuse.

Not scared, try again.

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[Enchant]

GO RETRY CHALLENGE OR NOTHING.

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You comply with what we agreed to or die after Pooky. Blocking gamebreaking doesn't work no matter your excuse.

Not scared, try again.

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You can't pretend to be scared if you are. You're stuck with this argument. If our theory on Gypyx is correct, then that leaves us with anywhere between 3 to 5 conftown depending on what happens. Even three is a massive problem for scum as they don't know what else is coming down the pike.

If scum don't eliminate Gypyx, then they have to go for LLD or the masonizer. LLD is a bitch to eliminate D1. Still possible but requires a strong active scumteam who are willing to engage in a knockdown drag out fight.

As for the masonizer, they have to find them. That's why you and Pooky outright asked me if I was the masonizer when I made the correct play.

mastina focused on sorting LLD as we're both aware LLD has faked being a mason in the past. LLD did it in completely different circumstances and had agency captured her townie in the hood and knew she had a janitor to stop her lie from ever being exposed.

I already gived plan which benefits town even more and gives what you want and completes our theory. You sabotaging it in pure urge to be VI or mafia. I hate both. I am not helping you from principle, before you do what i say.
You claims are just wrong.

Okay?

I don't believe Masonizer even exist and i never asked you about it.

Gambit memes, my favorite.

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I already gived plan which benefits town even more and gives what you want and completes our theory. You sabotaging it in pure urge to be VI or mafia. I hate both. I am not helping you from principle, before you do what i say.
You claims are just wrong.

You visiting Shiro gives you an excuse to block him. No thank you.

Alright, it stopped making sense at all. Now i want to block Shiro. Cool.

[Enchant]

1. My ability is not blocking.
2. It's day ability.
3. I stated easy solution for you to cooperate with me and get my help, so you can't call it dodging. You both can't even buy retry and shitpost 5 posts when we will plan to hammer someone for it? Why? Because why not.

I am not helping you, nor Gypix while you don't want to do anything. Simple because i don't want. Voting me doesh't change this fact.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

Typical, failed at one field, changed boots on other.

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[Enchant]

1. My ability is not blocking.
2. It's day ability.
3. I stated easy solution for you to cooperate with me and get my help, so you can't call it dodging. You both can't even buy retry and shitpost 5 posts when we will plan to hammer someone for it? Why? Because why not.

I am not helping you, nor Gypix while you don't want to do anything. Simple because i don't want. Voting me doesh't change this fact.

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I was telling you to vote someone.
If it's a day ability, why not use it?
Your solution isn't easy at all.

You need to vote someone or interact with my reads. All you're doing is mech, which further convinces me you're boxed in.

Lie. You mostly argueing for lost XP.
I never said i won't use it. Just not use it on you, unless you finally turn smart.
Of course, you need to really understand something.

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[Enchant]

On the strategic level, I'm gonna try and get someone in my hood to give me an experience point so I can upgrade someone's role PM. My original offer was that I'd upgrade their role PM but I might just pick someone instead.

Just thought I'd remind the thread that giving someone in a shared hood 1 exp is a possible action, and can grant access to the engineer ability right at the start of night 1 if someone has generated 2 exp themself (read: by being on wagon and completing the challenge with no do-over.)
Use discretion for the visibility of such transactions as of course, scum also share a PT and can presumably also share exp 1:1. This may present a rare opportunity to catch scum for embezzlement at some point in the game.

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That's exactly what we trying and now fighting over.

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[Enchant]

1. My ability is not blocking.
2. It's day ability.
3. I stated easy solution for you to cooperate with me and get my help, so you can't call it dodging. You both can't even buy retry and shitpost 5 posts when we will plan to hammer someone for it? Why? Because why not.

I am not helping you, nor Gypix while you don't want to do anything. Simple because i don't want. Voting me doesh't change this fact.

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I was telling you to vote someone.
If it's a day ability, why not use it?
Your solution isn't easy at all.

You need to vote someone or interact with my reads. All you're doing is mech, which further convinces me you're boxed in.

Lie. You mostly argueing for lost XP.
I never said i won't use it. Just not use it on you, unless you finally turn smart.
Of course, you need to really understand something.

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Then you use it on Gypyx.
Second, you're just attacking me as dumb to possibly avoid Gypyx being upgraded.
You're refusal to vote is pretty indicative of this. You're just frozen. Vote somewhere.
Why don't you vote me if you think I'm mafia?

If you both STOP BEING USELESS then i will.
It's not so hard to do.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

Enchant, can we take a step back here and discuss what is actually griping you at the moment rather than calling people useless?

What is your precise issue

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Alright so.
I have day ability to grant 0.50XP.

Titus asked to give XP to her, because she lazy to perform challenge. I agreed.
After she asked me to stop "blackmailing" Gypix in giving XP, which i planned to waste on engineer with Shiro help. On my question "Why" i received "Not ProTown Bah, how Gypix will be upgraded if he gives XP?"

I am not understanding if this is briliant stupidity, but Gypix NEED to give XP to get upgraded at first place. And if he doesh't give XP, then he sits uselessly with XP. That's all. I even suggested plan which consist on both Gypix and Titus retrying challenge, so we could afford two engineer shots.

"Blah blah it doesh't change anything and stupid".

So now i refusing to give her XP and she mad, trying to pressure me with votes.
It will not work.

Either you both retrying challenge and actually effort, or i giving XP on Shiro. If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.

[Enchant]

Also there's some claims like i trying to sabotage upgrading Gypix (by asking him to transfer XP for engineers, yep) or i trying to roleblock and sabotage plan overall, but they not making sense and bullshit.

Also i never hided fact that i more busy with discovering secrets of the game, than scumhunting.

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[Enchant]

If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.

I thought energy was only passable within hoods. Otherwise, we just pour it into LLD.

I can give 0.50XP to anyone.

[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

You putting me in situation where explaination require spoilering claims not making you better, Titus.

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[Enchant]

i mean you're pushing pooky!town and helping gypyx!scum get xp to do some bad shit to the town so you pretty much are not just useless but actively working against town wincon so w/e i dont really give a fuck

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Wrong. I don't want Enchant visiting Shiro because I don't want Shiro blocked. Enchant refuses to give it to me. Gypyx is the only one left.

Gypyx will be outed tomorrow if scum, so I'm fine with treating them as town.

....... WHERE IS CHAIN

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[Enchant]

If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.

I thought energy was only passable within hoods. Otherwise, we just pour it into LLD.

I can give 0.50XP to anyone.

And you don't give it to conftown because?

You are not conftown.
Gypix are not conftown.

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[Enchant]

If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.

I thought energy was only passable within hoods. Otherwise, we just pour it into LLD.

I can give 0.50XP to anyone.

And you don't give it to conftown because?

You are not conftown.
Gypix are not conftown.

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LLD is.
Gypyx might as well be.
You're treating me as town, yet objecting to an agreed upon gameplan.

I trying to influence you in favor of more reasonable plan.
If i need blackmail you for this, i doing this. You can dislike me for this, but it's needed.

If LLD needs XP, then i am not against it really. But what it gives on instant? Nothing. Only potentially lategame.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

I did blackmail Gypix though. I still consider i could waste XP better.


Also. I already gived solution.
WAIT MOMENT WHERE WE PLAN TO HAMMER SOMEONE, RETRY, POST 5 SENSELESS POSTS, GG YOU DONE CHALLENGE CAN HAMMER.

Is that's SO HARD?

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[Enchant]

By the way, when did all the pronouns disappear?

Pedit: what did you do to blackmail gypyx

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I promised to protect him and not hammer in response for him giving XP.

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[Enchant]

I did blackmail Gypix though. I still consider i could waste XP better.

Right. Not only did you blackmail Gypyx, you attempted to take the experience for yourself. I called you out on that at 2:20 pm in the hood. You voted me in public nine minutes later.

Enchant has an agenda. It's not protown.

Yes i stated why i want XP from start. I can say it's kinda egoistic, but.. Heh.

Also we have different timezones. But i voted you after you claimed "I don't want upgrades but Enchant wants!" which is dumb accusation.

Do you really think i require XP to GET UPGRADED?

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

I wanted to speedrun hidden mage ability to see what it does.

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[Enchant]

Fwiw Enchant, you probably already know this but optimal use of your ability in the short term is to give the exp to someone who retries the challenge and is gonna succeed and then be on wagon, or someone who succeeds the challenge first try without being on wagon, since the integers are the important thresholds and the beginning of the night phase is the most important time.

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Yeah. That's why i suggested to give for one of them. So they get 2XP still.

Charity is over though. I don't want to use my ability just to compensate Titus lazyness. Or Gypix lazyness. Or whatever lazyness. FUCKING TRY AS WELL.

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[Enchant]

Do you want to switch focus to reads a bit? Anyone you want to talk about, Enchant?

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As i said, i more interested in discovering secrets, but only practical reason Gypix alive is claim and helping with XP, because he doesh't bother even to post.

Shiro is town most likely.

I want decapitate Titus, but let's see how our plan passes. If it even performs.


Frozen Angel and Yume is people i am confortable to kill.

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[Enchant]

hey so, just popping in, but this time it actually ain't lazyness, i'm moving houses and kinda not having much time for mafia left in between, sorry to leave y'all hanging

RETRY CHALLENGE.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

Not now, when we plan to hammer someone.

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[Enchant]

Out of all slots in game you decided to name me and yume slot which were pretty much nonexistent.

You suddenly turned active instead of prodging.

So maybe not so wrong?

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And no. You will not hammer anyone

It's just started, already funny.

Also, i didn't want to push it in thread, i just achieved highest level of frustration, because Titus is impossible to reason.

About ISO, actually yes, but it's funny to see from person who prodges.

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[Enchant]

There was nothing interesting in your ISO.

Also i don't remember seeing you go VLA in any of them, which are more senseble than prodging later. Your comments didn't impress either.

... Cool, now i look toxic. I need sleep.

About Titus. Well. Fuck i know, i don't understand her at all. It's miracle we even have same mind.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

@Mod

You need to retry challenge instantly you noticed it failed, or you could wait for a bit?

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[Enchant]

Disgusting.

So anyway, who want 0.50?

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[Enchant]

I buy another chance to perform challenge for 0.25XP

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Also mod I didn't know that I had to mention retry in bold again, but I failed the challenge once as I completely forgot it existed before so I was by default retrying. Nothing was written anywhere we have to announce again so I hope it still counts.

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-You may give up 0.25 XP to retry the challenge if either you fail to bold tag the first post or fail the challenge outright.

A player can use bold tags to retry a challenge.

If I find a failed challenge, I will ask the player if they want to spend the XP or not(if not already requested by the player). Reason being I cannot automate a voluntary process.

To answer a potential future question: How many posts may I make before being ineligible to retry the challenge? You must inform me that you'd like to retry the challenge using bold tags before what would have been your next challenge post.

Using today's challenge for clarity. A challenge post failed. posts 1-4 may be anything. Post 5 must state intent to retry the challenge or you will no longer be eligible. The post asking for a retry will count towards your post total just as the first one did so there's no confusion.

The above retries follow these conditions and are allowed.

Spoiler: Addendum to Challenge Rules Section

--A retry must be stated using bold tags in the thread.
--Must retry before what would have been their next challenge post
--A retry bold tag counts the same as "I will participate"

Spoiler: Updated Challenge Rules Section

Challenges

-Challenges will take place during the entire Day phase.
-Challenges are completely voluntary.
-Challenges grant

1 XP

.
-Your first post of each day must state if you'd like to participate using the bold tag.
-Each challenge will be posted in the Day opening post and will be linked on the front page.
-You may give up

0.25 XP

to retry the challenge if either you fail to bold tag the first post or fail the challenge outright.
-A retry will only count if the user makes 5 posts within 48 hours.

--A retry must be stated using bold tags in the thread.
--Must retry before what would have been their next challenge post
--A retry bold tag counts the same as "I will participate"

-Challenges are not in effect while chatting in a neighborhood!
-Post Restrictions are not enforced during challenge posts.

Mod will not answer. I already asked. It's not public information and revealed to people who buy.

Going for Mage tree is not antitown.
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[Enchant]

Yeah, i fucked up

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

My quess:

Bulletproof active
Ninja Active
Miller Passive (before any check)
Bodyguard Active
Rolestop Active, not on self
Doctor Active, not on self
Engineer Active, not on self

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[Enchant]

I don't understand what exactly you accuse me for.

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[Enchant]

so I'm almost sure bulletproof is passive too.

Dream more.

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[Enchant]

This is my ability, and i choose how i use it. I don't townread Titus nor Gypix (atleast now), there's simple practical reason to let them live.

You acting surprised when more than one player want you dead is strange.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

Mod allowing game where everyone can buy bulletproof at first night?

Of course. If so, then mafia have unlimited strongman and buying bulletproof is useless. But why add useless component in game? To prevent Vig? Okay, why Vig exist then?

Exactly.

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[Enchant]

Ninja and Miller is blatant anti-town utility, Ninja exist to give scum "WHAT IF TRACKER EXIST" incentive to buy, and Miller just plainly scares off people because "Anti-Town".
I making no claims if Tracker/Watcher or anything exist. But kills exist 100%, therefore it would be overkill to add Passive "All players die only after 2 NKs" just for 1XP, without reasonable counter.

Claims i using ability like not town is outrageous, because if i am not town, i just not claiming ability and bust whatever i want. You trying to make me feel bad for using it "Not in town benefit" while i use it in town benefit is some twisted way of thinking.

I don't care about style what you using, if you know you using this style and flex it around, you could abuse it. If i say, i only say "Banana" as town, i will say Banana in every game and then tell i am town for that. Go disapprove.
For now you just get triggered when mentioned and trying to kill all accusators. Me not knowing about your cute persona doesh't make me scum.

Also, weird flex about moderator, but ok.

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[Enchant]

Let's calm down and talk normally. Well maybe you are calm Idk.

Why me pursuing mage tree damages town, expect for me being Miller?
I agree that Mage ability is not best in the world, but i believe hidden ability should compensate that.

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[Enchant]

Let's calm down and talk normally. Well maybe you are calm Idk.

Why me pursuing mage tree damages town, expect for me being Miller?
I agree that Mage ability is not best in the world, but i believe hidden ability should compensate that.

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So I wasnt saying you persuing mage tree for yourself damages town. I was just pointing out how advertising mage tree as best tree is anti town in general. and I was arguing how contradictory it is for you to pursue for doctor over bullet proof when you're insisting the BP is active.

but Yeah this is a good argument from you, "hidden ability" compensates for these anti town utilities. I think it might benefit town overall if we just spread and pursue those skills.

I personally believe, we need to all claim on which tree we're gonna work on and we need to spread out - with the majority going for warrior tree to reduce possible anti-town ness mechanical wise unless if there is a fear about it having a negative impact (claiming the tree you wanna pursue) but I cant think of any right now

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It was mostly joke (We live in Mage supremacy after all), but i am not gonna really blame someone for going something they want. I personally upset when someone not letting play how i want. Watch play overall to see, if it's just excuse to go explain their check.

In hood i gived my wish to get hidden ability ASAP and then publically announce what it does, to consider if it's worth it. I even had plan to achieve it in first night, for which i yes, blackmailed Gypix. More over, i am best suited person in lobby for going mage tree, and that's not just because i am overall useless gamesense and bad NK first night. I can't reveal it just that though.
Sadly it's not happening anymore, as we highly fucked up with challenges.

There's no way to know if someone is truthfull. There's no way to know if someone will really truthfully go Warrior, or instead go Sneak. Bulletproof/Bodyguard are hardly possible to prove.
Rolestops/Ninja are both useful ability for mafia to have, so mafia 100% just go sneak. So claiming just gives mafia information.

Mage? Well... How to say. It LOOKS like it's bad. For both factions. Therefore, hidden ability should be good... If it's not, i am rioting.

About my usage of ability. I am just sick of this, because i trying to promote my plan, but instead i like talking with walls, one of these just blindly accuses me disregarding words, second one plainly doesh't post (he even posted his last post without looking hood duh). One Shiro i considered adequate and town.
Like, i am not saying i am good for this, but you should understand that talking with walls is not healthy. Now i don't even believe they are town, but also i need them.

In other words, imagine being SUPPORT ROLE.

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[Enchant]

LoL

[Enchant]

Oh and it doesnt help that Titus whole plan hinges on Gypyx not having lied about his role and her assumption something that could very well not be the case.

It has a high chance of solving itself though so that is something she is right about.

2/5

It doesn't. That just triggers a different scenario, which I won't go into yet. That will only be done if it happens

Also, Enchant not wanting the experience for themselves is bullshit. If that was the case, they would have had no problem giving it to me as per our agreement since I don't need upgrading. I don't need to be mechanically correct to follow an agreed upon plan.

Enchant can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.

Titus can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.

[Enchant]

Oh and it doesnt help that Titus whole plan hinges on Gypyx not having lied about his role and her assumption something that could very well not be the case.

It has a high chance of solving itself though so that is something she is right about.

2/5

It doesn't. That just triggers a different scenario, which I won't go into yet. That will only be done if it happens

Also, Enchant not wanting the experience for themselves is bullshit. If that was the case, they would have had no problem giving it to me as per our agreement since I don't need upgrading. I don't need to be mechanically correct to follow an agreed upon plan.

Enchant can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.

Titus can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.

I'm actually perfectly willing to go along with the plan we agreed to. You're not above blackmailing to greed for yourself. You're defending Pooky. You're not scumhunting.

Instead, you're doing the 4 year old equivalent of I'm rubber your glue.

Why i even care. Whatever.

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[Enchant]

I will participate in challenge.

...
Uh.
Can someone clarify to me how this challenge works? I don't understand due language issues.
I need replace every four word with "Four" in every four post?

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[Enchant]

If you outside of hood with person, you waste 0.75XP to send 0.25XP.
If you are in hood, you just transfer 1XP without problems.


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[Enchant]

Also there's no conftowns.

Gypix claims he only received new ability, not which Titus and Gypix expected.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

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[Enchant]

Did i pass?

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[Enchant]

Everyone received what they submitted, or atleast looking like so.
No?

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[Enchant]

Could be two neiborizers be same alignment?

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[Enchant]

Could be two neiborizers Could be two neiborizers Could be two neiborizers Could be two neiborizers

[Enchant]

Trading sanity at XP.

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[Enchant]

We believed Gypix could turn in Masoniser.............................................................

Naive is it?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

We believed Gypix could turn in Masoniser.............................................................

Naive is it?

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Yes.

Me plus LLD plus Gypyx plus whomever he picked would basically seal the game. Sure, we didn't know what would happen but no scum in their right mind would chance mang conftown.

Did you folks think to use the rolestopper on Gypyx as well so they couldn't simply be roleblocked after all that in thread planning?

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Not really...

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

[Enchant]

Challenge which you not bothering doing again.

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[Enchant]

So, Gypix is not neibhorizer anymore?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too


I didn't ever find that Gypix turned Loved. How you know that?

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[Enchant]

I am pretty Sure that i am Sure that you are Sure, so you are Sure gived points to Gypix.

I see where it comed, but Mage hood manages to be WORST.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

And if you are both scum?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Who wants 0.5?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I disagree.
Engineer = More powerful PRs = More power

While of course we can't win just by that, i think it pays off.

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[Enchant]

Literally what are you, Literally what are you, Literally what are you, Literally what are you.

Titus DESTROYS this game with FACTS AND LOGIC.
VOTE: Gypix

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too


Gypix is Loved.
He need more votes to die.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy I will always copy I will always copy I will always copy

LLD was originally Loved and Gypix was Neiborizer.

Titus swapped these, turning LLD neiborizer and Gypix Loved.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too


That's what I don't know.
More likely no, than yes. Gypix claimed it's something new.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Do you really falled for free 0.5 on 1 April?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too


I applied for my action.
I can't post my favorite song, it will get me banned.

So get this instead.


Yume performed weird flex, which i don't think is what town do.
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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Hi i am idiot.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too


Fairly on second glance, it doesh't make sense for any alignment. Just flex.
What you think about Frozen Angel for now?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I think you are nuisanse and didn't deserve townread.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Pointless exercise. As again, you appear fast when someone mention your existance.
Let's talk about it next day.

If i or you will be alive still of course.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Pointless exercise. As again, you appear fast when someone mention your existance.
Let's talk about it next day.

If i or you will be alive still of course.

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I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

If you missed it I came back home last night. maybe its just your amazing timing to question about me without dropping any reads before I could come online today that granted my vote.

Ok and?

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too

If you want to talk, i kinda regained my composure, but i feel it's better to keep for next day.

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[Enchant]

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too


I think Hood is pure, expect for Gypix who... Uh. Doing nothing.
It's prevent me from answering, as Gypix is one who voted Pooky to death.

Issue is, i think mainly people joined not because Pooky is scummy, but because LLD claimed mason. I questioned it and got blamed by Titus, which again ended up in dumb argue and ROLEFISHING.


Also, i already applied for giving xp to you, jjw. I can change as many times i want.

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[Enchant]

I will Participate

Shiro claimed she had Engineer, and was planned to use it on Gypix, but you was faster.

Instead she upgraded Titus.

It's not guilty.

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[Enchant]

reviving LLD doesnt mean Shiro is town or LLD is town after being revived.

But I have this information that titus is upgraded as I tried upgrading them and it didn't work. and yeah the engineer it could be used during the day

Anyways We have massive information getting processed in sneak tree as we speak so I'm asking you all for some time till we process the whole deal. We have potentially a hard guilty + 3p outing + possibility to find another hard guilty or clearing a slot.

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But LLD is town.
Just in a case, Shiro did claim additional win condition as well.

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[Enchant]

So Mage Ultimate is Revive?




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[Enchant]

I did literally nothing last night

Interesting

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I mean, it's true

Doing nothing is guilty?

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[Enchant]

I still have one.

I upgraded Titus and tried upgrading FA tonight hit couldn't.

We can trade engineers, i can buy one already.

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[Enchant]

Why?
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[Enchant]

Wait you can upgrade self?

Let me check this out.

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[Enchant]

MAGE SUPREMACY.

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[Enchant]

I reviving Pooky and you can't stop me.

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[Enchant]

Dwlee is vampire or Dunn?

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[Enchant]

Oh

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[Enchant]

Hold on, my "Oh" was pagetopped, why it's not anymore.



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[Enchant]

Idk if it makes sense to be executioner in game with revives.

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[Enchant]

Dunn stole your 1 shot engineer role last night

Sucks to be him. It's used up xD

I just upgraded somebody elses role. It looks like the role thief also refreshes the shot if you really did use it already. If the masonizer is Titus' primary role, you can grab another copy of that, keeping in mind that only the target of the actual masonizer, and not the stealer of the role, would be confirmed as town

And you didn't because?

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[Enchant]

Speedrun Sneak.
Everyone steal Titus ability.
Target someone.

GG EZ.

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[Enchant]

I upgraded self.

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[Enchant]

I am Magician.

Please bow.

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[Enchant]

Can someone, preferably Roden, just confirm whether Roden would leave the game in victory in the scenario that he achieved this side wincon?

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With regard to the masoniser, I want to hear from LLD how much she knows about it, particularly around Titus' alignment, because that's pretty key information for whether or not we have to place Titus and what the play would be if people wanted to steal the role.

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My masonizer was one shot. Stealing my role would do nothing.

Stealing recharges it.

LOLBALANCE.



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[Enchant]

Wait why you no longer masonizer.

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[Enchant]

Due to something that has just happened, I have asked a completely unrelated and very strange question to the mod and I am very much looking forward to the answer

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Did you receive 0.75XP out of blue?

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[Enchant]

I plan to have one.

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[Enchant]

Why not revive?

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[Enchant]

Enchant, I think your only valid target tonight is Pooky. Do you already have the ability?

Not yet.

Why not revive?

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cause reasons

But i am curious...

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[Enchant]

Fine

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[Enchant]

I know this seems like an obvious question, but can you ask Ginngie what is meant by "masons" in the context of your role PM

Also, ask what would happen if a mafia-aligned player used your role and see if you get a response.

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As far as answers go:

Scum seems can steal this ability and use it, but only on Town players. It confirms target only.
Masons are Masons, thus Town. Idk if MASONRY with scum can be called such.

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[Enchant]

Chair (Chair)

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[Enchant]

I fucked up and discounted.

Now it's really Chair.

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[Enchant]

Wait a fucking second

Enchant: fullclaim right now.

How did you know dunnstral sent me 0.75 exp? We have a hard guilty on Dwlee, so if you can track exp being sent jn some way we can literally get a result on everyone who isn't in the mage hood

How my claim helps, expect for possibly catching mafia transfers of XP.

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[Enchant]

Sadly no.

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[Enchant]

Mod told me.
I don't want to claim it fully yet, but it can't be used in way you just thinked.



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[Enchant]

No, i know only what you get.

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[Enchant]

Also who want 0.5XP?

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[Enchant]

I AM BEARMANCER.

[Enchant]

I AM BEARMANCER.

can you explain how exactly the revive skill works

the people who come back are guaranteed to have same alignment as before?

did you check stuff with mod?

It's 1-Shot obviously.
There's nothing stated about alignment.
Every character can be revived only once.

[Enchant]

Yume also revived Pooky

Would have been nice if you'd cooperated with me via Shiro rather than doing your own thing but w/e

Aren't i stated that i reviving Pooky in main thread like decades ago?

[Enchant]

Oh challenge...
... FUCK THIS ONE I AM SICK.

[Enchant]

Ok just did, hold up.

[Enchant]

So why you made "Great plan" when i already told i reviving Pooky, i hope that's not plan to clean wasting of XP?

[Enchant]

The fuck are these submits, and what they have to do with fantasy.

[Enchant]

I am more in mood to chop confirmed liar in Roden face.

[Enchant]

Aren't everyone who is not scum can't be scum because they are not scum...

[Enchant]

Mod answered me that it's not public knowledge.

[Enchant]

Probably this statement will be disregarded as silly.

But.

I think Roden is jester.

[Enchant]

Yumi don't fucking dare, you simple protecting Roden by that.

[Enchant]

"This game created for fun"
^Moderator

Players:

[Enchant]

The threat of gladiate is my assurance that you will.

Do what i say or i shot self.

[Enchant]

Yume needs me to explain every 24 hours that 2+1 does not equal 4 and we unfortunately could not afford to get the role steal in the previous night phase because she spent an exp immediately on getting the reviver when I said not to do that

This does not amount to be not wanting to be confirmed town, although honestly I have bigger fish to fry, like limming scum!Mastina

Reminds me about Titus.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Roden

[Enchant]

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

[Enchant]

Roden openly trying to divert attention on Mastina.

If I don't roll over and die then I'm scum I guess

Why you lied then

[Enchant]

ok lets say roden is a executioner or w/e

is he groupscum?

Bur you pushing mastine for being potential 3p.

[Enchant]

why is mastina not groupscum

why Roden is not?

[Enchant]

Not town-aligned =/= guilty.

Quote of year.

[Enchant]

Can i not read this big post of selfpraise

[Enchant]

I ate sand.

It's tasty actually.

[Enchant]

i KINDA WANNA KILL mASTINA JUST FOR THAT GIANT WALL POST

Mood

[Enchant]

like masonizing AND resurrecting town players from the grave is just too much fucking power

I would not be surprised if "masonizing" was actually culting and resurrection was actually zombification

Aren't you ressurected and supposed to know that?


Didn't read anything expect for last page.

[Enchant]

Why even ressurect anti-town player who can't make simple statement "I am town, i just have additional wincon and lied to you"?

[Enchant]

like masonizing AND resurrecting town players from the grave is just too much fucking power

I would not be surprised if "masonizing" was actually culting and resurrection was actually zombification

Aren't you ressurected and supposed to know that?


Didn't read anything expect for last page.

unaware cult member is a thing

What the fuck

[Enchant]

We can ressurect Roden to kill him again and discover if ressurection makes something new.

[Enchant]

arent u the one who did the resurrection

shouldnt u know if resurrection creates something new

NoT pUbLiC kNoWlEdGe

[Enchant]

It means mod refused to answer if ressurections change alignments or anything else.

[Enchant]

Oh yeah, in bastard games there's two types of this.

Masons are "Not mafia".
And Monks are "Not Werewolfs".

[Enchant]

i just got upgraded

now when i die i become an alignment flipped tree stump

which is like ok but im not sure how useful that is

Now Pooky never shut ups.

[Enchant]

If ya have questions to me, you free to ask

[Enchant]

Boop?

[Enchant]

Indeed.

Either way, i am too lazy to make fakeclaim, so deal with fact that i am Sage, i need to survive AND buy more abilities than anyone else in the game. I aligned with self.

I can place spellcounter (Which grants 0.5XP), trade abilities per skill trees and suck up XP from one person i choose(i choose JJH, that's why i know all XP he earn). I also investigated as Town after upgrade.

P.S. I don't have illusions i will survive day, just when i die pls revive, i will aid to my reviver, thanks!

[Enchant]

I can trade abilites from one tree for another, but same row and also it doesh't work at hidden abilities.

For example i can trade Miller for Bulletproof. So i mostly safe at nights.

[Enchant]

Also haven't you given different people the 0.5 exp on different phases

1. Shiro
2. You
3. You
4. I yawned and forgot to perform action.

[Enchant]

Also there are like, no cops in the game and your upgrade ability would also get effectively overridden by the 1 shot miller in the mage tree?

And I didn't get 0.5 exp at eod3

As i said, i can trade Miller for Bulletproof.

Also hold the fuck up, i recheck.

[Enchant]

Also, how come you didn't try to set up an infinite exp scheme?

If you gain the same amount of exp as your target, why not just keep passing exp back and forth?

It's first thing i asked, it doesh't work on 1XP trades.

It only works, because of loss you receive (you waste 0.75XP to get 0.25XP with loss of 0.5XP), it considered "Earning".

[Enchant]

I checked, you should have recieved XP.

Seems like mod error.

[Enchant]

That's a pretty sizable mod error given it delayed Yume stealing the masoniser by a phase

Seems so, but i applied action and mod acknowlidged it.

[Enchant]

Speaking of, maybe I'd be more sympathetic to your plight if you'd sent Yume 0.25 exp or even given Shiro 1 exp on that night phase when I indirectly requested it

Did anyone help me?

[Enchant]

Anyway yeah I think you might be a threat to town that doesn't have a nightkill

The idea that a neutral 3p that is not a threat to town could get a godfather as an upgrade is pretty laughable tbh

Like, is that actually an upgrade to a 3p that doesn't have a major incentive to remain hidden?

I have incentive to remain hidden though, claiming 3p is always suicidal.

[Enchant]

At any rate, I have now received 0.5 exp retroactively

Also nah, you're the third person in this game to claim a third party wincon, although the only one of them to claim to not have a town one too

Someone likes dumb wincons much.

[Enchant]

If I'm being honest your wincon also sounds unrealistic as it's harder than just survivor. It would make sense as an extra, but not by itself.

To put it in simple terms, you aren't actually gonna meet it even if you do keep living. Yume has spent 9 exp

Aren't winning as survivor requires effort like "Once per day post "I am survivor"", unless you scumside and don't claim before ELO?

[Enchant]

My offer stays btw.

[Enchant]

Technically, once you've claimed survivor there's a point at which you are obligated to scumside by game theory, and town only need to keep you around for as long as there are decent leads on scum

Claiming as a survivor is usually negative for your survival but is itself a pro-town move that shows willing


In your case I don't really believe you

Was my point ever to prove something?
I wished to help scum but you curbstomp them for now, or we think you curbstomp them. No way i survive this day, and i fully acknowlidge this before claiming.


My offer stays.