Open 848: Chromavalon: A Bouquet of Colors [Game Over]

[Scorpious]

Hi fire!

[Scorpious]

I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace

Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.

This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..

[Scorpious]

I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace

Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.

This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..

Confused about what?

You jumped on someone for “giving up”.. they were already limmed .

What would be your town motivation for doing that?

[Scorpious]

But yeah, I’m pretty sure that was as obvious of a flip and night action anyone has ever seen. It was obvious to me that furtive was scum. Just happy we didn’t kill off another innocent.

This is a lie based on your post-hammer comment.

You didn’t know… it wasn’t obvious to you..

[Scorpious]

well, if butterflies was completely wrong on the rest of their solve, i see no reason for maf to kill them, considering they would do everything they can to push those lims through.

so, i think they were likely right on at least one of enchant and umlaut (now scorpious)

if they were right on both, then maf only really has hope of winning by finding the muses, so muses should be careful, since we likely won't need their info to win and anything to reveal would only hurt town. that's only in the case where both enchant and scorpious are maf, though, there are other possibilities

hi scorpious!

By this logic though. This game is completely unbalanced barring a d1 scum flip(which happened). And I don’t see a game being so one sided..

[Scorpious]

By this logic though. This game is completely unbalanced barring a d1 scum flip(which happened). And I don’t see a game being so one sided..

what

expand on this

Well, unless I’m reading this entirely wrong, which is always a possibility. You are saying for the muses to “be careful”. With them and scum being the only ones that know who scum is, I feel like they should NOT be careful and discuss freely. Some of us don’t know anything and are reliant on the - would it be “TMI” in this case from the muses..

My point is, if the muses just play like normal VT’s and tip toe around they can be withholding vital info from the uninformed crowd that has no pre given info. And if that’s how the setup is intended to be played I feel the game would be rendered one sided based on the d1 maf flip…

Your logic read to me as “just stay quiet, we have this figured out.. GG scum”

Which again, I could be wrong..

[Scorpious]

D2 my fault..

[Scorpious]

im saying that if we've already solved the game, muses have no reason to out themselves by confirming that, and we can just keep going in the direction we're going and it will get confirmed by the flips

if we are way off, then the muses may need to exert some influence, but still should be careful not to out

maf didn't flip d1, that was d2

in which direction are you saying the setup is one-sided? town-sided or maf-sided?

It feels like a caught scum greatly enhances the odds for town I’m this setup to ultimately end up
At the scenario you are describing.

Which as I write it and read seems more like a more common idea. Like “of course catching maf increases chances”
Idk, I’m just trying to fall into the game here.

[Scorpious]

I will say goodbye then before this gets locked. Thanks to numberQ for modding, this is a cool setup. Peace

Sounds like scum giving up. Don’t think a townie would give up like that, especially given the context of his play today.

This post was made in twilight, so I’m really confused..

Confused about what?

You jumped on someone for “giving up”.. they were already limmed .

What would be your town motivation for doing that?

Now I’m confused. Jumped on? I was already voting him and that comment just moreso solidified my feelings. Town motivation? Again you’re gonna have elaborate on that because I’m lost.

You said this after the hammer. We’re you not aware they had been hammered.

Their post you quoted was them basically saying “aight, ima head out”, and you responded with see a townie wouldn’t say this. We’re you just commenting on twilight or did you not know the hammer dropped?

[Scorpious]

But yeah, I’m pretty sure that was as obvious of a flip and night action anyone has ever seen. It was obvious to me that furtive was scum. Just happy we didn’t kill off another innocent.

This is a lie based on your post-hammer comment.

You didn’t know… it wasn’t obvious to you..

Not a lie. I said what I said and meant it. Don’t try to think for me. Furtive’s comment felt like it was coming from scum, not from town. Where is the town inspiration in his comment?

I defer to my question above

[Scorpious]

This is a weird game? So? thats it?

we're just going off of one slot's solve and just rolling with it?

[Scorpious]

This is a weird game? So? thats it?

we're just going off of one slot's solve and just rolling with it?

Im not sure about your slot but i dont think enchant flips town.

Could you summarize your reasoning why? like really brief, I don't give homework.

[Scorpious]

Scorpious? Have you caught up with the game? What are your thoughts on Titus?

I would say my catch up is “adequate”. 38 pages in one chunk is difficult.

I TR Titus heavily. I won’t say I’m gonna sheep because that’s creepy…

But scum Titus would have 20 walls posted about how primary colors affect the tides more than the moon’s gravity and how that relates to mafia theory.

[Scorpious]

I wasn’t crazy about her post of pluses.. I just hate lists.

The one thing I found slightly puzzling was the “offer” to drive the game and that just fell off. But as I thought about it. It just shows me disinterested Titus. I think she’s VT honestly.

[Scorpious]

Strategically, we don't benefit from more discussion

So…

Just forget the week and a half and vote Enchant?

Is that what you’re saying here?

[Scorpious]

Strategically, we don't benefit from more discussion

i agree

are you good with voting now, then?

This is a very valid question.

Im expecting these posts to be followed by concrete votes..

[Scorpious]

The prod muddies things up a bit, but I don’t see a wagon forming to compete with Enchant.. They have done nothing in the game to compel me to champion them living..

I’d still love to see some action from the ones that proclaimed that’s the lim for today, but I’ll be lenient for now based on the prod, but once that gets cleared up I’m hoping to see some action beyond the words.

[Scorpious]

Who is the self hammer protecting?

[Scorpious]

Lol this game is so dead it's become discord chat.

Do you or Norra have any thoughts on why there would be no kill?

Titus at least provided insight. Makes me think one of you two are the remaining scum..

Like, it’s weird you guys just went to “so, how’s life?”

How would not killing someone help the remaining scum?

[Scorpious]

VOTE: No elimination

The no kill suggests scum don't know Merlin. No elimination dictates they make a move and provides more cover.

Is that the route we go today? What are your thoughts Noraa?

What are YOUR thoughts?

[Scorpious]

Makes me think one of you two are the remaining scum..

lmao this townslip is a little old

What does this even mean?

So you two talk
About nothing…

I talk about the game, and I’m “townslipping”. and of course the other agrees.

VOTE: Nora

Italiano is just lost town following the first theory presented…

Has not produced any original content, and I’ve read through this game twice.

[Scorpious]

Italiano just switched alignments mid game

What are you talking about?

[Scorpious]

there's one scum left and i expect a 2015 join date to know that, even if they replaced in.
also your vote on me doesn't actually make sense. theres absolutely nothing in the post you vote me that is about me. it's all about italiano. and its not like you SRed me yesterday whatsoever.
can you explain where you pulled this SR from

I just explained it..

When did I say there were more than one scum left.

You are scum and Italiano is lost town just following…

[Scorpious]

Well it’s either you or Italiano..

What did you mean by he “switched alignments”? Or was that just miscommunication between us?

[Scorpious]

I dont think Italiano is scum and I'm not but shrug. Lowering it down to me and italiano at the beginning of the day is like a huge question mark to me, can you explain it?

You said "Makes me think one of you two are the remaining scum.."
now if you misread it and read "Makes me think you two are the remaining scum..", you get my perspective

It was how you two decided to just start chatting.

You both slightly acknowledged the no kill, but then just kinda trailed off into idle conversation.

Surely you would want to exchange thoughts about what happened, no?

[Scorpious]

yeah and i dont see how you see two people chatting and your conclusion is "one is scum and the other is lost town"
like how do you get from one to the other....?

Do you like making me repeat myself?

I just literally said how..

[Scorpious]

no you didnt. you didnt say why it was inherently scummy to chat (it isn't?). you also didnt show any difference between the two of us.
yet you voted me and claimed italiano was lost town.

But I did… you have produced original content this game..

Italiano has not..

I feel he is town grasping at straws and you are far more dangerous. Italiano will go with what ever sounds best at this point. He was asking what others think before even giving any insight…

He’s town. I don’t think you are

[Scorpious]

first time i've ever heard someone call me scum for producing original content

I know, it’s a weird thing to even say. But in the context it makes sense..

[Scorpious]

I’ll do an Italiano wagon just to prove a point at this stage, he’ll flip town , then we lim you. Then you get your shot to pick your muses..

I’m one of them btw..

[Scorpious]

I'm happy to just lim Scorpious and call it a day.

I'm not interested in deep discussion right now one way or another.

i agree with this.

Of course you do..

[Scorpious]

Wow, this is gonna happen fast I see…

GG, maf won’t even have to guess muses..

[Scorpious]

And implosion?

The scum with the hammer please?

Sorry Nora I was wrong about you..

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Implosion

Litterally the second time this person starts a day with “let’s not discuss”…

Smdh

[Scorpious]

Thyme…

[Scorpious]

You need a starch too..

[Scorpious]

Damn. Mod stealing my thunder…

I was going to love pointing it out to them..

[Scorpious]

So my summary of thoughts before bed.
Italiano will jump on anything and as I said before, no original content .. most likely bored vt
Can’t figure it out, but 90% Nora is a muse.. but not scum
Implosion comes off as scummiest to me, not even knowing where we are at in voting, then just dropping in saying “let’s not talk, let’s just vote for the second time, and I’m gonna marinate on this hammer.. just hard to believe that’s a genuine mistake by them..

Forget me reading Titus. If Titus is scum we’re screwed, that’s the bottom line

[Scorpious]

I should read games before I rep in..

This was a fun experience though against all odds..

[Scorpious]

Thanks for letting me play

[Scorpious]

“Thank you Scorpious for repping in as the Piñata”

Oh, shucks… you’re welcome

[Scorpious]

Flicking through the Maf thread...
Furtive my game is almost all gut reads, and i like putting pressure on to players who I don't know so I can get a feel for their vibe.

also we called the bus tactic xD

You're pretty good though Furtive, I'm genuinely looking forward to playing with you again.
Scorps criticisms of you are pretty harsh in my opinion and I second Enchants ScumMVP of you.

I didn’t think I was being harsh, it interesting repping in as scum on a game that’s already solved

[Scorpious]

No I accept I played badly, I should have pushed Muse reads and muddied the waters. I would have liked slightly more open discussion on the Muse guessing, but Scorpious was pretty set on his guess, despite only playing one day. What can you do

But I wasn’t, I said I was defaulting to you guys since I was the rep and got crickets.. I even left it up to you to make the call and said I wouldn’t be mad either way..

C’mon now..

[Scorpious]

Shall we talk about Enchant flipping blue....LOL

A better brain would be more apt. But I’m curious what the actually probability we guess right is