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Post #1 (isolation #0 ) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:10 pm
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:10 pm
Hello fellow bakas. This is my first scum game on the site. We know that Gamma Progo and Titus are all Vanilla. Would it be smart to choose a player and push them hard like Merlin would?
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Post #5 (isolation #1 ) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:34 am
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by furtiveglance » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:34 am
Would it ever be wise to outright claim Muse (Merlin) in final 3 perhaps?
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Post #15 (isolation #2 ) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:15 pm
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by furtiveglance » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:15 pm
In post 14 , Umlaut wrote: If I had to guess right now I'd say Galron is blue muse making up a reason to vote me, and butterflies is either red or yellow following his lead.
That's a good idea. Right now I'm thinking implosion could be my (RED) muse, going deep cover and actually defending me. Thoughts?
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Post #16 (isolation #3 ) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:19 pm
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by furtiveglance » Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:19 pm
Thoughts on my readslist? Have I outted all of us as mafia somehow?
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Post #17 (isolation #4 ) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:01 am
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by furtiveglance » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:01 am
butterflies must be mafia. They seem to know far too much
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Post #18 (isolation #5 ) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:02 am
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by furtiveglance » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:02 am
Muse I mean
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Post #19 (isolation #6 ) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:10 am
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by furtiveglance » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:10 am
If I had to guess I'd say Dunnstral/Nora give more VT vibes, what do people think?
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Post #22 (isolation #7 ) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:47 am
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by furtiveglance » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:47 am
Thoughts on bussing? How do I quote from the main thread and put it in here?
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Post #24 (isolation #8 ) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:52 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:52 am
Guessing Dunnstral isn't a Muse then....
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Post #26 (isolation #9 ) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:45 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:45 am
Would Galron be so inactive as a Muse?
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Post #27 (isolation #10 ) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:40 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:40 am
If our kill list tonight is Gamma/Progo/Titus, I'd kill Gamma. Or would no kill be better? Thoughts?
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Post #29 (isolation #11 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:02 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:02 am
I think Noraa and butterflies are both Muses, what do you guys think?
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Post #33 (isolation #12 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:44 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:44 am
Progo seems to be the only possible miselim to me. Who else can we get?
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Post #34 (isolation #13 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:45 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:45 am
And yeah Enchant that didn't look great......
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Post #37 (isolation #14 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:05 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:05 am
Ok Dunn just singled out Enchant, I don't think either of us should be the first to push Enchant tomorrow, so we get info on whether or not Dunn was a Muse.
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Post #40 (isolation #15 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:20 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:20 am
I guess nice, but we want to see if anyone picks up on it tomorrow. A fellow Muse probably would
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Post #41 (isolation #16 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:33 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:33 am
In post 36 , Umlaut wrote: If you're worried about getting enough miselims then maybe we shoot Titus instead, Gamma has a talent for putting his foot in his mouth.
I can't see GE being eliminated this game. Besides they are a fairly high poster. I think looking ahead to day 3, if we have GE and butterflies in the ground, even if Enchant is voted tomorrow, we are in a good place. Hopefully day 3 we can setup a Progo/Titus vote with Progo the elim.
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Post #42 (isolation #17 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:36 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:36 am
Can't wait for the flip and reactions tomorrow, town will be in shambles lmao
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Post #43 (isolation #18 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:37 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:37 am
hehehe >:D
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Post #44 (isolation #19 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:19 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:19 am
I want to nightkill Gamma, what do you guys think?
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Post #47 (isolation #20 ) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:28 am
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by furtiveglance » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:28 am
I definitely don't want to no kill or kill Progo, but if you both want Titus that's fine. I think Gamma is fairly widely townread and more active than Titus, so Gamma is my first choice. Separately, I don't think we should go for a fast night, let the townies dwell on their mistake! >;)
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Post #50 (isolation #21 ) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:59 am
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by furtiveglance » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:59 am
I'm worried butterflies might be the Muse that knows it's me. They address a lot of questions to me
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Post #52 (isolation #22 ) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:49 am
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:49 am
Let's just bus Enchant as punishment for inactivity >:D
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Post #55 (isolation #23 ) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:57 am
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:57 am
I prefer neither of us bring it up. If someone else does then they are probably Muse with Dunn, right?
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Post #56 (isolation #24 ) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:58 am
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:58 am
If my fellow Muse died with someone's name in their mouth I would follow up on it.
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Post #59 (isolation #25 ) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:15 pm
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:15 pm
I like the Dunnstral/implosion link after implosion picked up on Enchant. BUT implosion paired Enchant with Progo....
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Post #60 (isolation #26 ) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:15 pm
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:15 pm
so who does implosion know about?
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Post #61 (isolation #27 ) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:16 pm
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by furtiveglance » Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:16 pm
I thought butterflies/Noraa were both muses yesterday but now I no longer think so....so confused
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Post #62 (isolation #28 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:38 am
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:38 am
implosion could be Muses with Dunn for voting Enchant.... or, implosion is a Muse who knows about Enchant and Dunn was VT.
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Post #63 (isolation #29 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:37 am
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:37 am
We're in a weird place right now. fireisredsir looks a more difficult elimination than Progo - could we eliminate Titus and implosion? I'm not so sure. We might need to look at Titus/Galron. If the Muses are Dunnstral/implosion/Galron and butterflies/Noraa/fireisredsir are all widely townread, we have next to no wiggle room and will have to push obvious town, or Muses.
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Post #64 (isolation #30 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:56 am
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:56 am
Uh oh, spaghettios. Butterflies just cracked the case.
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Post #65 (isolation #31 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:05 pm
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:05 pm
I think I played this fundamentally badly - I shouldn't have townread loud town/possible Muses. Makes it easier for Muses to hide if we bus.
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Post #66 (isolation #32 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:06 pm
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:06 pm
Hopefully people just forget butterflies' perfect solve when we kill them.... probably not though
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Post #67 (isolation #33 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:08 pm
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:08 pm
Ok we need to throw out the Dunnstral/Galron/implosion theory. I am now convinced that butterflies is my Muse. Despite being a hydra, they both have strong 'gut pings'? Yeah right.
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Post #68 (isolation #34 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm
panicking slightly, my cover has been blown. I am no longer the deepwolf. The thing is Enchant is pretty much outted. We need to get her out and the quicker this day is over the better. I can't wait to nightkill butterflies. They are definitely my Muse.
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Post #69 (isolation #35 ) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:55 pm
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:55 pm
I am shooketh. Umlaut cradle me in your furry arms
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Post #72 (isolation #36 ) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:44 am
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by furtiveglance » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:44 am
Who is Umlaut's muse? That's what I'm struggling with. I don't think Noraa is a muse, but butterflies has to be. I will think on this more later
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Post #73 (isolation #37 ) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:06 am
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by furtiveglance » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:06 am
I think if I had to guess Butterflies is red (me), Galron is Blue (Umlaut) and implosion is Yellow (Enchant).
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Post #75 (isolation #38 ) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:44 pm
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by furtiveglance » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:44 pm
Because Dunn got smoked day 1 lmao
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Post #76 (isolation #39 ) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:45 pm
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by furtiveglance » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:45 pm
Somehow I don't think Muses would allow that and I can see why Dunn could have died with your name in their mouth even as VT, given that you lolhammered in a scummy way.
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Post #77 (isolation #40 ) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:02 pm
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by furtiveglance » Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:02 pm
implosion also townreads butterflies and hasn't scumread Galron at all.
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Post #78 (isolation #41 ) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:52 pm
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by furtiveglance » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:52 pm
Do you guys think they would vote a Muse day 1?
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Post #80 (isolation #42 ) » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:33 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:33 am
We need a hero solve of our own here
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Post #81 (isolation #43 ) » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:35 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:35 am
butterflies has to be a Muse, and I don't think Noraa is. I think implosion is. The thing is implosion is now putting a bit of sus on Galron. If he follows through with that then they can't both be Muses.
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Post #82 (isolation #44 ) » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:46 pm
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by furtiveglance » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:46 pm
Thing is Butterflies/Galron/implosion still works if implosion is just faking suspicion on Galron. Otherwise, it has to be Butterflies/implosion/Dunnstral, and implosion has a guilty on me/Umlaut which they have declined to share.
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Post #83 (isolation #45 ) » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:46 pm
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by furtiveglance » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:46 pm
me is dumb noob, send help? :/
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Post #86 (isolation #46 ) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:34 am
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by furtiveglance » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:34 am
Agreed. Any thoughts? My locked reads are that Butterflies is a Muse with me/Umlaut, Noraa is VT and implosion/Dunnstral is your Muse.
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Post #87 (isolation #47 ) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:36 am
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by furtiveglance » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:36 am
I think my 2 theories are either: Butterflies - Umlaut, implosion - me, Dunnstral - Enchant OR Butterflies - me, Galron - Umlaut, implosion - Enchant
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Post #89 (isolation #48 ) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:32 am
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by furtiveglance » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:32 am
You think Dunn Yellow (Enchant), implosion Red (me) and Butterflies Blue (Umlaut) then?
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Post #91 (isolation #49 ) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:04 pm
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by furtiveglance » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:04 pm
Thing is if Butterflies is my muse Umlaut's has to be Galron.
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Post #92 (isolation #50 ) » Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:28 am
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:28 am
Italiano hasn't really seemed like a Muse so far, have they?
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Post #93 (isolation #51 ) » Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:28 am
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by furtiveglance » Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:28 am
I need to reconsider Noraa.
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Post #95 (isolation #52 ) » Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:55 am
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by furtiveglance » Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:55 am
Hero solve: butterflies - me, Galron/Italiano - Umlaut, implosion - Enchant. Thoughts? I could potentially sub Dunnstral in for implosion, but I'm convinced that Noraa is VT.
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Post #100 (isolation #53 ) » Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 am
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by furtiveglance » Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:42 am
Yeah I know about WIFOM. I just think butterflies only reaches that solve if they have one of us already, and the other two are signalled by other muses or become obvious (as you did when you quickhammered) I think butterflies had me from the start and mined me for associative info, Galron voted Umlaut day 1.
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Post #105 (isolation #54 ) » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:37 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:37 am
Scorpious it would be great if you could push ItalianoVD. I think they are a Muse.
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Post #106 (isolation #55 ) » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:38 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:38 am
We will probably lose the main game as Enchant will find it hard to escape being voted tomorrow, so our best bet is to guess Muses. I think butterflies is Red, Italiano is Blue and implosion is Yellow at the moment.
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Post #107 (isolation #56 ) » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:39 am
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by furtiveglance » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:39 am
Pressuring Muses is a good way to find associatives between players.
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Post #113 (isolation #57 ) » Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:38 pm
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by furtiveglance » Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:38 pm
Town will probably do the same thing regardless of kill choice. I want to see implosion/Italiano play together more and I want to see who follow's Butterflies's solve. I think Butterflies should go