Micro 1051 | Minimalist Micro Normal | Postgame

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yup
expecting Tracer Bullet to change it

huh why?

this is my first game ever on the site.

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wait you're NOT pooky?

who dat

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wait you're NOT pooky?

Yeah.
Them having Pooky’s discord link on their profile page is just an coincidence i’m sure.

total coincidence

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time for my first way too early readlist

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VOTE: Meg

because I don't want to make Norwee sad

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nice beetlejuice

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still got it

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listmod abuse

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what terrible scum theatre

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can't believe nobody has commented on the fact that I'm townreading duckie before he even posted >_>

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would've been a great meme about worker's insurance

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My content is always the best

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You can't escape my death trap so easily NorScum

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I see no reason to change my reads

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I might do it anyway though just to keep things spicy

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feels a bit too easy catching NorScumBoy and Megazu this early on D1

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when cases feel too easy

its usually a setup

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Spoiler: setup

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she knows I'm onto her

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it's too early in the game for complex thoughts

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if she knows I know she's setting me up to take the fall does she unvote me and pretend she's thinking about the person she thinks I think she thinks I might be?

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I might have to change my readlist earlier than I expected

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The eagerly awaited sequel to the best readlist ever:



VOTE: Wallflower

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I shouldn’t have taken my vote off you huh?

Are you expressing regret that you now can't vote for me without it looking like OMGUS or do you actually think I am mafia?

Be careful how you answer.

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You dance dangerously mademoiselle.

I respect it

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all of my votes are deadly serious and I never joke around

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cracking under the pressure I see

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sometimes I just have my suspect sit in a chair while I slowly drain a bottle of Kentucky Bourbon.

it's the dread that gets them.

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the slow regard of silent things

cigarette smoke wafting through the air.

beads of sweat in a humid office.

you feel nervous to me.

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I've never been nervous in my entire life

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are you ok SS?

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Indeed, a decision befitting of your luxurious cape.

I was interested in your opinion of Ircher’s play around me vs. Mega though. I felt like it could be scum trying to fuel the fire, but you seem to know Ircher well.

She's so fucking charming I almost unvoted her

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Fine

One Time

VOTE: Gamma [E-2]

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The plot thickens

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I should be number 1

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She's dangerous this one

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Gamma is still scum though

I think maybe my second read list was 2/2

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Which is p good for a readlist on page 8 ngl

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You're good at this

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I feel pangs of regret in my cold frozen heart

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Oh RCE is maybe town huh.

I agree but probably not for the same reason

Perhaps you should enlighten us with your reasoning

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The tension in the room ran high as the two rose from their seats,

what had been a discussion about the price of tea in southern china quickly turned hot,

it looked like there might be blood spilled tonight.....

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I would like to remind everyone that Gamma is still at E-2 and nobody should put him at E-1 lest he make a fast escape via the window.

I want to see if there are things he will do yet.

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Is there anyone who actually thinks Gamma can be town atp

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it seems he escaped via a different route

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I do write the best flavour

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Unsatisfied with trashing only Something Smart's RCE read, NorScum lines up another unsuspecting victim

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Tooges do that thing where you towntell

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I'll write some funny fan fiction if you do

I promise

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Maybe it's time for a new readlist

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After I finish writing up Tooges entrance scene though

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give me a readlist tooges and i'll make it good

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I think alternative playstyle is the correct term

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On that note, I could see a Toogeloo/Tracer team. Tracer's post along the lines of "does anyone actually think Gamma is town at this point" seemed premature. Perhaps buss-y?

You think I pressured my scum partner into jumping out of a window.

Interesting theory.

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would you like a glass of water?

I don’t get it.

You're red, I wanna help you cool down

This duck has moves

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time for my first way too early readlist

I see no reason to change my reads

The eagerly awaited sequel to the best readlist ever:



VOTE: Wallflower

Can I get an explanation on how SS shifted here?

He lost townpoints for not posting

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Another day

Another Readlist:



Reminder to Self: Still have to write Toogeloo Entrance Scene.

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VOTE: Wallflower

She's fallen off since I last paid her any attention

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Tracer I'm sure you've played with SS before.

As a very serious player I have extensive behavioral research on each of you compiled and I have little doubt that any criminal activity will escape my watchful gaze.

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But where’s the passion? The drive? The innate desire to find the scum and pummel them to the ground!? (Okay maybe that’s just me). It feels like you made an account with the purpose of having fun with it, and are still trying to do that except the old-school detective schtick is much harder to pull off when you know everything already, eh?

I do in fact know everything already

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I still have to keep it interesting for the fans though

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Have you been taking lessons from Not_Mafia on how to make a reads lists .

I have you right where I want you Panda Boy

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Also my apologies if that is a misgendering.

Perhaps Panda Villain might be more appropriate.

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No

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You're using the wrong words

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Let us say you are town and you think I am town.

You think Ircher is Mafia and you would like to eliminate him from this game.

I have put him at TownLean 3/3 times.

Why are you not engaging with me on my read of Ircher? Do you want him dead? Do you feel confident he is mafia?

Use your words.

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Who do you want to kill?

Why do you want to kill them?

Who are you trying to persuade into killing this person?

If you want to reverse the entropy of the game state you must drive with direction and conviction.

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That's fair.

VOTE: Ircher

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Maybe it's just Ircher and Toogeloo

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Wallflower Girl Join Us

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If anyone is wondering how I arrived at Ircher/Toogeloo solve.

I sorted the playerlist by post count and removed Mr. I'm too Good to Post in this Game.

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What is your read on the worst and why do you think they are playing differently from how they would as scum?

I am incapable of scumreading Duck correctly so I am focussing on the slots that I can read.

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wow

absolutely shameless

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Ircher cracking under the pressure going directly into anti-spew.

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Lol @ Ircher claiming that I'm scum for "not hunting" when dude plants his vote on Norwee and just sits there for 5 days

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are you feeling sensitive because you're just voteplanting SS for "pressure" that does nothing

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"Authentic Solving"

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on top of the fact the wagon on ircher was already stupid, the game has now stagnated with him as lead wagon :p who do people think ircher is aligned with? what does literally anyone think scum are doing?

I think scum are not doing anything because nothing is going on

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on top of the fact the wagon on ircher was already stupid, the game has now stagnated with him as lead wagon :p who do people think ircher is aligned with? what does literally anyone think scum are doing?

The awkward part is that I agree with you about the Ircher wagon.

why does it even matter if the Ircher wagon has stagnated?

the point of the game is to kill the mafia.

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Do you realize how stupid this statement "the ircher wagon is stupid because the game has stagnated with him as the lead wagon" is if Ircher is mafia?

In that case you'd be saying essentially "hey look voting Ircher hasn't caused him to do anything, he just omgus voteparked Norwee, he's not hunting, no1 is pushing him."

So let's just leave him alone and let him do nothing! Let's not vote for him and try to get his wagon to a place where it can kill him!

Because voting for Ircher is "stagnating the game"

Like wtf is that logic???

The whole point of the game is to VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE MAFIA.

If everyone thinks "oh let's not vote this scummy guy because it will stagnate the game" what are we even doing here?

If you think ircher is town, make a case for why Ircher is town.

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also another point

for the people calling me "scummy"

i don't know if you've noticed

but like nothing is going on.

and scum are usually the people who are ok with that game state because if nothing is going on.

it means they are

not dying

so they're more likely to be in the slots twiddling their thumbs and doing nothing

than the slots trying to actually get an elimination done.

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I sorted the playerlist by post count and removed Mr. I'm too Good to Post in this Game.

Excuse me, that's Mr. I Was At A Chess Tournament For The First Time In Two Years to you. I did pretty well, too.

i knew this guy thought he was too good to play mafia with us plebes

congrats on your chess victories.

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Tracer, are you arguing with Norwee about scum Ircher? Norwee thinks Ircher is scum too. I can't really tell if you are just arguing for the sake of arguing though.

I am voting for Ircher.

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also another point

for the people calling me "scummy"

i don't know if you've noticed

but like nothing is going on.

How swingy you are with your reads given this being your view makes your takes stilted.

Flip a table and I'd probably join your cause.

unpredictability is important to keep the scum off balance.

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also another point

for the people calling me "scummy"

i don't know if you've noticed

but like nothing is going on.

How swingy you are with your reads given this being your view makes your takes stilted.

Flip a table and I'd probably join your cause.

help me yeet Ircher and let's see where the chips fall

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I mean does anyone have any better ideas?

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The worst, what do you think of Tracer’s recent pissy-ness, for lack of a better word. Do they seem genuinely peeved about the slow-moving game?

I am not pissed

I do not care.

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The worst, what do you think of Tracer’s recent pissy-ness, for lack of a better word. Do they seem genuinely peeved about the slow-moving game?

They seem really pissed that they're catching heat. They feel entitled to an Ircher lim. I don't vibe.

lol what

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That logic is that
Scum are an informed minority
Ircher necessarily has a scumbuddy
Scum's wincon involves outlasting the town
I see no efforts to drive a wagon to make this happen from anyone except myself
I know I'm town
The efforts to casually dunk on Ircher feel unfounded and too comfortable with the current gamestate
Therefore I suspect them
This has been the lead wagon with the same 3 votes for a long time and I'd be surprised if scum are just wholesale ignoring it.
If ircher is scum set to go down d1 id be shocked if nobody had the bright idea to bus
You dont seem to be considering bussing at all

there's a massive hole in your play & you happen to be the worst offender wrt trying to elim ircher rather than trying to solve ircher

and I'm arguing with you that you are scum because people are stating discomfort with you but im not seeing any votes moving.

angry quacks.

1. Ircher was at 2 votes when I voted for him.
2. After I voted for Ircher, he omgussed me and Wallflower jumped on so there's your counterwagon already.
3. Maybe you should actually read what's going on instead of just making things up.

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The idea that I would actually care if I get mislimmed on D1 by an apathetic town that can't tie its own shoelaces is laughable.

I am fine with being eliminated. It does not reflect badly on me.

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we're at 2 days from deadline and nobody's even been E-1'd or claimed yet and most people seem content with not posting or doing anything so shrug

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Meg votecamped on SS, doing nothing
Ircher omguses Norwee, does nothing, omgusses me does nothing.
Duckie sat with his vote on me forever alone doing nothing
SS isn't even posting.
Gamma posted a bunch of fluff, caught pressure, pressed eject immediately.

Like if you guys dont want to play the game why do you even sign up

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I guess Duck is finally getting the Tracer wagon he wants so his persistence paid off.

Kudos

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Someting_Smart (E-4) - MegAzumarill
the worst (E-4) - Toogeloo
Not Voting - Something_Smart

pick a side already

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Does he think he's gonna get your lim? Big doubt.

so ircher!town

decided to vote park norwee

and do nothing

because ??????

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according to Mr. Duck

Tracer!scum decided to push Ircher!town who is townreading him in a stagnant game where nobody has any pressure on them, half the game is not posting, and no scum is really under pressure because nobody is under pressure.

because Tracer is a Master Criminal who is a cunning Manipulator of Minds.

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Duck's read is so laughably bad I can't even scumread it

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but as scum Tracer needs to look like they’re doing something.

nope

if I was scum I'd just do nothing because that's literally what half of the game is doing and nobody gives a shit

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People have been looking squinty-eyed at Tracer for a while, so Tracer-scum would be at huge risk of being caught out for inaction. They tried pushing me, which made sense because my play has been strange enough that there wouldn’t be much fallout from my townflip, and then it feels like when that didn’t work, the next easy option was Ircher.

I can push anyone in this PL fairly easily

I wouldn't target Ircher!town as scum because Ircher is easy to pocket

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All the play around me earlier was pretty manipulative tbh. Anything I did was cast as some femme fatale seduction that couldn’t be trusted, which Tracer only stopped doing when it was clear that people weren’t scumreading me anymore.

No I stopped doing it because you said I was demoralizing you and making you not want to play and I felt bad about that.

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To be real though, I’m not sure that I appreciate the implication that anything positive I say is some sort of master manipulation tactic. I get that suspicion is a thing… but it feels… demoralising somehow

like you literally guilt tripped me about doubting you and now you're saying I stopped doubting you because people stopped suspecting you like wtf.

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As for you targeting Ircher-town, I agree that it makes me slightly doubt a scumread just because I feel like you would try and go BIGGER as scum, but I don’t really know who is a bigger target other than the worst. So maybe Ircher is just the way you go as scum.

I do not target people who townread me as scum because my scum game is about thread control and threat elimination.

the idea that ircher!town who is sitting there with his vote firmly planted on norwee!town and is twiddling his thumbs doing nothing and also townreads me would be a threat or a push target for scum!me is just laughably dumb

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To be real though, I’m not sure that I appreciate the implication that anything positive I say is some sort of master manipulation tactic. I get that suspicion is a thing… but it feels… demoralising somehow

like you literally guilt tripped me about doubting you and now you're saying I stopped doubting you because people stopped suspecting you like wtf.

Wouldn’t you still doubt me after the guilt trip though? Isn’t that what I’d do as scum?

The doubt remains but I would stop vocalizing it because I don't want my verbalization to demoralize you from actually playing the game and causing you to become harder to read for me.

also it's kind of a dick move to continue shoving you if you're actually town and I would feel guilty about it.

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You seem much more annoyed with me than thinking that I’m scum. The change in your vote seemed to align more with a shift in gamestate than a change in read on me.

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me deciding to push on Ircher does not have anything to do with my read on you.

I am annoyed with your characterization of why I stopped pushing/shading your slot because it is wrong - this has nothing to do with your alignment.

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UNVOTE:

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Whatever. I think this is winnable through day play. I'm informed that Ircher is town.

I will be malding if you fake-claim this and Ircher is actually mafia

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I'm willing to elim in the people who didn't pick sides since Ircher v me is T/T

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Except his Meta is basically doing nothing so its NAI for him

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it'd be like taking a shot in the dark

tbh not the worst idea

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I'd actually be ok with voting Tooges but I'd feel gross about it because 95% of it would be related to Gamma jumping out of a window to escape me.

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Maybe I'll go back to voting Miss Femme Fatale

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Literally kill tracer jeezfuck

Literally The Worst Idea

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duckie if I was mafia you'd be eating breadcrumbs out of my hand and asking me if I was your mommy.

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I only joke with my favorite duck because I love him

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UNVOTE:

Whatever. I think this is winnable through day play. I'm informed that Ircher is town.

I will be malding if you fake-claim this and Ircher is actually mafia

I cannot believe y'all aren't seeing that this is coming from someone who needed that elim to go through.

You don't have to repeat your incorrect assumptions about my play over and over.

It won't make you right.

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considering you're stuck in a super dumb death tunnel on a townie you should definitely feel it

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I am capable of being very heavy handed as scum.

I wouldn't play this way as scum because I don't take a heavy handed approach to pushing someone who is townreading me and not really a threat to me.

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VOTE: Toogeloo

I can also do SS

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I think the scum team is probably just in Toogeloo/Meg/SS

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but I don't think Meg is partnered with SS because voteplanting your AFK partner for lol reasons seems dumb

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there's as many posts here as when I logged off last

incredible

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do you feel strongly about SS

I really don't care atp feeling demotivated

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he's capable of being indignant as mafia so no

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Tracer Bullet (E-3) - the worst, Ircher

actually thinking it might be fine to just lim me here since these 2 refuse to play the game if i'm alive and the death tunnel is probly game losing if we miss today

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I am willing to vote in Tooge, SS, Meg, Me, RCE for the lim today.

Toogeloo/SS/RCE need to actually vote for what they prefer

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feels like a scumclaim vote from Tooges lol

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btw what's your read on SS dude?

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@SS

what is your read on me/Toogeloo?

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I was talking to Tooges

we go back decades

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Feels like they are trying to pull a fast one on me

Straight out of Operation Crouching Panda

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so what's your POE and what do you think about SS?

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There's like. a zero percent chance scum never touched the ircher wagon. just a reminder.

you can always vote for Toogeloo

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I suppose I see a town-Tracer world where they're frustrated with the game for whatever reason and can't be bothered, to some extent.

what r u talking about can't be bothered

im like the only person other than norwee and you who is actually moving vote around and trying to get an elim done.

is ircher even playing? lol
duckie is tunneled
meg hasn't posted in forever
SS has never voted or done anything cuz he's SS and he's taken a vow of never doing anything
Tooge popped in and said oh ill vote this cuz its not me - said nothing about SS.
I dont even remember who the 6th person on this list is

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oh yes the sixth person on the list is RCEnigma who last we heard from thought Me/Ircher could be T/T or W/e and has mysteriously disappeared.

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I use just the right amount of buddying as scum not to get killed

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tbh I'm not really even buddying you

I'm just a fellow bored person who is wondering why people aren't bothering to play

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I'll switch to Toog if Tracer has no momentum by EOD but like he is clearly still making 0 efforts to solve this.

Like this is just objectively not true.

Just on the last page I ask Toogeloo twice about their read on SS both times they ignored me.

I also ask SS on their read of me/Toogeloo - they also ignored me.

So the idea that I'm "not solving or making any effort"

Is just a flat out falsehood

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Not enough memes?

I enjoy making memes and trolling when other people r like actually solving but if the game state is like 0 people making an effort then I have to like actually do shit and it's annoying

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like what I would've liked from Toogeloo was something like "I thought this about SS/You and I decided to vote you cuz ____"

instead there's nothing there.

SS hasn't voted or said anything about where he is leaning towards voting/eliminating for the entire fucking week. It's like he doesn't exist. He's done nothing except express townreads which is really easy for him to do as either alignment and basically useless for sorting him.

He beetlejuices into the thread when people vote for him but he doesn't actually proactively do anything to get an elim done.

Are they scum together? Are they just thumb twiddling townies who just don't care?

How would I know if niether of them answer my questions?

Also if the rest of you aren't going to pressure them for answers/play, what incentivize does scum!them or town!them have to answer my questions or for fucks sake do anything?

For all I know maybe they're both town and don't care and the real baddies are sitting somewhere off wagon doing nothing because they're happy with the POE. How do I know if RCE or Meg even give a shit about this game?

It's dumb to even try to solve when PEOPLE ARE NOT PLAYING.

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and then there's duckie/ircher - supposedly our confirmed townies stuck in the world's laziest tunnel claiming that I'm not doing any solving when literally nobody is talking to me or playing the game.

bravo

Truly doing god's work there friends

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@SS

what is your read on me/Toogeloo?

Both mildly +town, but I don't think I'm particularly good at reading either of you.

r u planning to vote for someone before the day ends

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like who do you even want to eliminate

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what r u waiting for

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what do you think is going to happen in the last 20 or so hours that hasn't happened in the first 6 days.

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we going to chinese fire drill ourselves onto a baddie cuz everyone will feel bad about not playing the game and show up magically 3 hours before deadline?

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what do you think is going to happen in the last 20 or so hours that hasn't happened in the first 6 days.

Competing wagons that aren't on a conftown?

we already have competing wagons that are on people who are not conftown

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like seriously just pick one:

(a) between Tracer/Tooge, I would rather vote out ____ because _____

or

(b) I don't like either Tracer/Tooge for elimination, I'd rather eliminate ______ because ______

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is ircher even playing? lol
duckie is tunneled
meg hasn't posted in forever
SS has never voted or done anything cuz he's SS and he's taken a vow of never doing anything
Tooge popped in and said oh ill vote this cuz its not me - said nothing about SS.
I dont even remember who the 6th person on this list is

This doesn't make me want to change votes here.

I'm not trying to make you change your vote

I'm complaining that you're not even playing

I know complaining about someone's lack of effort doesn't make them change their mind because people tend to not take criticism well

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tbh I'm not really even buddying you

I'm just a fellow bored person who is wondering why people aren't bothering to play

You keep saying this, but it is objectively false.

have you read your own iso ?

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In regards to your comments, I get the impression I would have been damned if I did, damned if I didn't in regards to you. If I voted anyone other than you, I'm sure'd say I was bussing. But I vote for you, so it's a scum claim.

do you even think I'm mafia

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Let's just speed lim Tracer here if all they are going to do is misrepresent and complain about the game state.

Do you want to lim me because you think I'm mafia or do you want to lim me because you don't like me telling you that you're a slacker and literally useless?

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it's fine

you're one of the few people making this game playable for me

i'd rather have someone push me for being scum and giving me shit than some lazy conftown in a tunnel that doesnt even bother to post

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like this game isnt moving at 20 pages a day and people can't keep up

literally nothing is happening because half the game is too lazy to play/post

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I'm VT

I thought that was fairly obvious when I said I'm fine dying today

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Every time I open the thread all i see is you spitting out AtE because you think we owe you something. None of us do. If we think youre scum we are totally just allowed to vote you because we feel it.

VOTE: toogeloo E-1

how dare I expect people to play the game instead of being afk

what a travesty

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like why the fuck are you telling me "we are totally allowed to vote for you because we feel it"

I've already said I am fine with you voting me out

that's not ate

that's ME BEING FINE WITH BEING VOTED OUT

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in fact i can prove it if you dont believe me by self voting if you want me to do that

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i think toogeloo is scum

i think the last one is in SS/RCE/Meg

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actually throw out RCE

I think Tooge -> SS -> Meg wins the game

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maybe even Meg over SS at this point I dunno

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I think just flip Tooge -> Meg game over.

if I get elimmed today just flip them tommorrow for me thx

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Every time I open the thread all i see is you spitting out AtE because you think we owe you something. None of us do. If we think youre scum we are totally just allowed to vote you because we feel it.

I just want to say one more fucking thing about this ATE accusation.


I am very fucking good at ATE.

My scum ATE is designed to get townread, designed to buddy, designed to push, and designed to manipulate.


Do you know what "complaining about people not playing" when they votepark you does?

IT MAKES THEM KEEP FUCKING VOTEPARKING YOU. BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES CRITICISM.

SO THE IDEA THAT AS SCUM I WOULD CRITICIZE YOU/IRCHER AS TWO USELESS TUNNELLING CONFTOWN IS JUST LAUGHABLE TO ME BECAUSE ALL IT DOES IS MAKE YOU DOUBLE DOWN ON VOTING ME

BECAUSE TO UNVOTE ME WOULD BE TO ADMIT THAT I AM RIGHT AND YOU TWO ARE BEING USELESS

AND WHO WOULD ACTUALLY DO THAT?

My criticism is because I am FUSTRATED with the way you two are playing.

I am not saying you are bad people.

I am not saying you are bad players.

I am saying that in this instance, the two of you tunneling me for ??? reasons and deciding to votepark me for me not solving the game when I'm clearly trying to solve is just fustrating as all hell to me.

And I KNOW that you two aren't going to change your minds just because I am calling you out on it.

It's something I'm getting off my chest because I am malding at the way you two are playing.

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After the VT claim, yes. Part of my townread on him was that I thought his continued frustration at being scumread might have indicated a PR.

I literally said I am fine with being voted out today and you thought I was implying I was a PR.

wow

truly some amazing play going on here

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I literally said I am fine with being voted out today and you thought I was implying I was a PR.

You know that I know better than to take that at face value. Regardless of what you said you didn't seem like you were actually fine with being eliminated, nor should you have been.

why would I not be fine with being voted out when I think the game is full of useless people who don't post and I am not enjoying playing it lol

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like do you think I actually give a fuck if town me gets mislimmed?

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I'm VT

I thought that was fairly obvious when I said I'm fine dying today

It was a mere formality anyway. If you claimed anything, we'd know it was a fake claim.

keep being useless

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i actually feel more confident about meg flipping scum than tooge flipping scum at this point

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like do you think I actually give a fuck if town me gets mislimmed?

I mean, you can be pretty strong as town, especially lategame, so if you care about town winning then yeah that ought to be pretty undesirable.

I don't care about winning if the town is just going to do nothing and lim me for shitty reasons.

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VOTE: MegAzumaril

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I don't think I've made any personal attacks, every word I have written is specifically about play in this game specifically.

I apologize if anyone has taken offense to anything I've said to be personal in nature.

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Like there are games that are just unwinnable no matter how hard you try.

Being upset at losing those games makes very little sense to me.

if I'm not being listened to and the town just decides hey it's fine let's kill him instead.

Then that's perfectly fine for me.

That's just one of those games I lose.

I'm not going to care that I lose those games.

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(b) I don't like either Tracer/Tooge for elimination, I'd rather eliminate Meg or Wallflower because Tracer seems to be genuinely invested in affecting the day's outcome which I don't think he would always feel the need to do as scum, and Toog's slot has taken a lot of shit and they don't seem to be playing like a bus target or panicking scum, and both Meg and Wallflower were very talkative early but now they've been more just throwing down votes. Meg promised a big post though, and I do want to see that.

here's your chance SS

you said you wanted to lim Meg instead

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does meg actually have 2 votes @Mod

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do you want to discuss why you find Meg townie?

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I'm willing to vote Toog here if a town flip means we kill Tracer tomorrow.

I know Meg hasn't done much lately, but I'm not really up for limming there rn. I saw something earlier in the day from Meg that is unlikely to come from scum based on my knowledge of the setup.

I like how Ircher sees the flashwagon moving towards Meg and then just doesn't say why Meg is actually town here.

Stellar stuff.

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I love this game

Brilliant

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epic

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I pick not me

VOTE: Toogeloo

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Being wrong doesn't make me Mafia.

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934 PM: Tracer votes Meg
937 PM: Norwee votes Meg
939 PM: Ircher says he thinks Meg is townie becuz "reason"
1004 PM: SS votes Meg
1004 PM: Tracer asks Ircher why he finds Meg Townie
1014 PM: Tracer complains that Ircher isn't explaining the townread on Meg despite a flashwagon heading to Meg
1026 PM: Duckie votes Meg "SORRY IRCHER!" - I'm guessing Duckie didn't find Ircher's reason for Meg!town convincing.
1032 PM: Meg finally shows up and claims Meg is town and doesn't really say anything about the wagon or w/e.
1057 PM: Ircher shows up and hammers Meg.


Let's say for the sake of argument I'm some kind of baddie who wants to throw Meg out a window cuz I think Meg is like an easy target/mark or whatever and I start a counterwagon on Meg with NorweeBoy cuz with SS's vote we can get that shit to E-2.

Why would I be asking you to explain your townread of Meg here? Seems kind of counterproductive to the whole enterprise of yeeting someone so that I can like not die right?

But instead of just talking out your reasoning with me and maybe changing my mind if your reasoning is good, you basically don't answer me and when you show up its to hammer Meg.

Now you're blaming it on me... when you're the one who didn't answer me and you're the one who hammered. Like what!?

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As to explaining my reasoning: I know for a fact that it would get dismissed as "bad setup spec", and even if it did, there was a 0% chance it would change your mind. Thus, it wasn't worthwhile elaborating further especially when it's based on knowledge I know about the setup from my role. (Speaking of which, I have not and do not plan on sharing because revealing it adds virtually nothing to the table while keeping it does give a slight chance for town to slip lack of awareness of such knowledge or for the reverse case of scum TMI'ing the info. Meg was the former case obviously.)

kind of hard for you to know that given you never told me what the info was

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Anyway, the Meg thing is only part of the reason why I scum read you. There's still the matter of your manipulative posting and continuous misrepresentation of the game state yesterday that also makes you scum.

do you have examples of how I lied and manipulated in a way that proves I'm scum? i'm always interested in that.

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btw I think it's funny you think I'm misrepresenting the game state when literally nobody is posting but go off champ

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wallflower didnt even vote for Megaz but ok

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in my defense if im losing to scum!norwe its absolutely because I am easily pocketed by anyone who looks like they give a shit in a game where nobody looks like they give a shit

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wallflower didnt even vote for Megaz but ok

What's your point?

why do you think she is mafia

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if u all wont trust me id rather be limmed today rather than at elo

this is nothing near what my scum game looks like

i dont expect you to take my word for it

so just vote me off if thats what you all want

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I'd like to mention that one thing i'm questioning right now is how Pooky was like "Omg none of you are solving, nobody gives a shit except me" and it made sense at first, but then people here actually started to make some good content. And Pooky STILL kept saying nobody was giving a shit, which just felt so awkward. xD

check what posts were made between me bitching today and day start

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rofl

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Ircher is the de facto town leader as conftown.

as a town player who is being pushed by this town leader to be the de facto lim today, I have a responsibility to reach out and communicate with him.

Here are the last two times I reached out to Ircher:

do you want to discuss why you find Meg townie?

I'm willing to vote Toog here if a town flip means we kill Tracer tomorrow.

I know Meg hasn't done much lately, but I'm not really up for limming there rn. I saw something earlier in the day from Meg that is unlikely to come from scum based on my knowledge of the setup.

I like how Ircher sees the flashwagon moving towards Meg and then just doesn't say why Meg is actually town here.

Stellar stuff.

He did not respond to this reach out - he just hammered Meg.

Is that my fault?


This is the other reach out today after he stated he wants to kill me for misrepping game state whatever the fuck that means:

Anyway, the Meg thing is only part of the reason why I scum read you. There's still the matter of your manipulative posting and continuous misrepresentation of the game state yesterday that also makes you scum.

do you have examples of how I lied and manipulated in a way that proves I'm scum? i'm always interested in that.

He also did not respond to this either.


Now as a town player being pushed by the de facto town leader for random bullshit. I think I have a right to be annoyed if he doesn't do me the basic courtesy of responding to my questions/queries.

Unless he is 100% absolutely certain I am mafia and he refuses to consider that I can be town here - which he has the right to do - we are all playing based on our OWN opinions.

However if he does believe that he should do me the basic courtesy of telling me that and telling me to not even bother trying to change his mind and I will HAPPILY oblige by not trying at ALL today and he can have 100% of the blame for mislimming me here.

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Also I don't think I am misrepresenting the game state at all since the townleader masons spent most of d1 and d2 just blind pushing me for shit reasons that make no sense to me and refused to ever communicate with me so I'm perfectly fine taking this loss in stride.

Some games are not winnable.

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I'm not saying I played perfectly either but I was always online and ready to communicate and I think the quotes above clearly show that Ircher did not really want to or is interested in communicating with me.

That's fine

That's his choice and some people play the game that way. No disrespect to him - just not my cup of tea.

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that is pointless because I am very good at obfuscating partner identity when I roll mafia.

my win-rate in micros as mafia is very high because I can usually make sure my partner is untouchable regardless of when I flip.

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are you just taking duckie's word for it or have you actually read any of my scum games for yourself

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here's my last completed scum game:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88618

Day 1 stalls for town.

Read my Day 1 play

its literally me doing absolutely nothing

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here's the game completed before that:

I'm in a hydra with Ydra and we shitpost random art and then quickhammer someone

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

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like if the town isn't doing shit

I don't need to do shit either

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There are tons of examples of you lying about the game state that I've already pointed out. For instance, 641 where you claim that people aren't bothering to play.

this is my complaint 634

"what r u talking about can't be bothered

im like the only person other than norwee and you who is actually moving vote around and trying to get an elim done.

is ircher even playing? lol
duckie is tunneled
meg hasn't posted in forever
SS has never voted or done anything cuz he's SS and he's taken a vow of never doing anything
Tooge popped in and said oh ill vote this cuz its not me - said nothing about SS.
I dont even remember who the 6th person on this list is"

-Pooky


Which of those characterizations is inaccurate Ircher?

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like do you think I have restless leg syndrome and I have to compulsively post or some bullshit when I'm mafia?

I am perfectly fine sitting still and doing nothing if I am not being suspected as scum.

I'm like a fucking tree.