Mini 2270: Spring Fling!

[Andante]

AYYYYYY So last time I was maf, and like, we didn't solve in the hood at all, and I kinda liked that sooo I don't plan on posting significantly in the hood, like I'd rather just dump thoughts in the thread, so yeah, but TOWN!!! LET'S GOOOOOO I only accept dance proposals from town! We are endgaming! gg. tryhard mode activated. maf be scared

[Andante]

I also kinda believe Ydra is town here lol just a gut feeling... feels like same reaction as me lol

[Andante]

Page 1 and I already have a tr. leggooooo
Ydra town.

[Andante]

I should leave as soon as I can for lols... gotta carry on Fire's leaving legacy!!!

[Andante]

I could also be very spicy and ask Enchant but i feel like Ydra and I never get along when we're both town so what better pt than that? worst case scenario i get pocketed by scum ydra but shrug whatever it'll be an experience at least >:3

You're giving me maffy vibes right now lol, like this nervous "haha I have to pair up. asap!" feels like you're trying to rush to partner with ydra, like, before there's no options, cause "we never get along as town" like, why is that the pairing you instantly want to go for?

[Andante]

Bell also isn't exactly screaming town right now lmaoooo this is great

[Andante]

I could also be very spicy and ask Enchant but i feel like Ydra and I never get along when we're both town so what better pt than that? worst case scenario i get pocketed by scum ydra but shrug whatever it'll be an experience at least >:3

You're giving me maffy vibes right now lol, like this nervous "haha I have to pair up. asap!" feels like you're trying to rush to partner with ydra, like, before there's no options, cause "we never get along as town" like, why is that the pairing you instantly want to go for?

scum me so charismatic. also town ydra so good at reading me like you dont even know. i'd be too busy freaking out that ydra was in the game lmao.
unless you think we're scum together, which like ok lets talk about that later in the game. gamestate will be clearer then anyways

this response just has me like, ehhhh what?? ydra is town you're the one I'm not thinking is town? like, yeah idk.. suspicious

[Andante]

oh yooo we don't have an IC this time lol

[Andante]

I wanna dance with prism tbh

[Andante]

prism seems most like "ehhh I don't use hood, just know that" while Noraa is like "I NEED YDRA HOOD!!!"

[Andante]

gg this is too easy, and 3rd scum is someone who hasn't talked

[Andante]

prism seems most like "ehhh I don't use hood, just know that" while Noraa is like "I NEED YDRA HOOD!!!"

ydra has good reads hehe >:3

you literally said "we both fight as town. I wanna be in a hood with her" like... what?? lol ok...

[Andante]

gg this is too easy, and 3rd scum is someone who hasn't talked

its like page 2

and?

[Andante]

"we both fight as town. I wanna be in a hood with her"

yep! we dont tend to get along as town in that i tunnel ydra and then ydra cant read me as town. but if we just skip that whole process and become besties all is solved lololol. or at least thats how it worked in my head

so you're just auto assuming ydra town? then you're saying you'll think about going back on that read??

[Andante]

gg this is too easy, and 3rd scum is someone who hasn't talked

its like page 2

and?

and i just offered you a peace offering!

hmm but I don't tr you already, and that's not a good sign

[Andante]

"we both fight as town. I wanna be in a hood with her"

yep! we dont tend to get along as town in that i tunnel ydra and then ydra cant read me as town. but if we just skip that whole process and become besties all is solved lololol. or at least thats how it worked in my head

so you're just auto assuming ydra town? then you're saying you'll think about going back on that read??

not like i would catch scum ydra anyways, why not

ok I guess where I'm going with this is like, ok you can't read ydra, why are you saying you want a hood with ydra? like, "ydra always town!!!" don't you want someone who you either TR from here (as far as I can tell you don't tr ydra off anything here) or someone you can read.. or someone to solve with in a hood?? like.. idk, I guess we all have different ways to go about this, and I'm not seeing this as how town!Noraa approaches this.

And I guess I can shut up sure if bell thinks I'm just spamming... I mean, I have a legit read here...

Who's BM?

[Andante]

K.
*slams* breaks.
Both of you. Shush for a little. I already see where this is going.
Let’s all lurk for a bit before inevitably losing self control and spamming again.

towny post

scummy entrance

AYYYYYY So last time I was maf, and like, we didn't solve in the hood at all, and I kinda liked that sooo I don't plan on posting significantly in the hood, like I'd rather just dump thoughts in the thread, so yeah, but TOWN!!! LET'S GOOOOOO I only accept dance proposals from town! We are endgaming! gg. tryhard mode activated. maf be scared

You liked that you didn't solve in the hood when you were mafia last time and you want to not solve in the hood again this game?

yeah?

Hello y’all

HIIIIIII

[Andante]

I currently SR fire the most and Noraa the next most. alright. 2 maf caught, who is the 3rd

[Andante]

well about bell, its not posting at all. but i think the frequency of bell postings right now is pretty deecently town indicative

the game just started though... it's not hard to post at the start

[Andante]

I’m confident you will never run out of things to say or think Andante. Turn the faucet down to drip. You’ll have plenty of time to reaction test, prod, scum and town read everybody at least once.

@mala, hi.
@dunnstral: I don’t think Noraa has seen my extremely limited in improvement scum game.
But you can protest it, sure.

notice how we're geeting the game going? instead of staying in this like awkward RVS phase? yeah, you're welcome

[Andante]

I have arrived

who's mafia

[Andante]

Andante and Noraa both get into it a lot and it will take up pages and pages of arguments when both of them can arguably be sorted well enough without the back and forth.

Hi myko.

uhh what? I was calling out something scummy.. literally not even trying to start some fight like you're implying here...

[Andante]

LOL I like mykonian good entrance, likes speed reads.. I'm feeling good about this one being town

[Andante]

kinda hyped to be a lady tbh

lads you gotta EARN my acceptance. work hard

ah yes, my bad. ummm this also isn't exciting.. at all

[Andante]

I dont really think any of bells posts are TOWNY

agreed. they not towny at all lol and when conversations get real, bell got quiet

[Andante]

cannot see scum bell telling andante and noraa to chill and take things slower

I can

[Andante]

AYYYYYY So last time I was maf, and like, we didn't solve in the hood at all, and I kinda liked that sooo I don't plan on posting significantly in the hood, like I'd rather just dump thoughts in the thread, so yeah, but TOWN!!! LET'S GOOOOOO I only accept dance proposals from town! We are endgaming! gg. tryhard mode activated. maf be scared

You liked that you didn't solve in the hood when you were mafia last time and you want to not solve in the hood again this game?

Dunn is reading Andante's posts more closely then I am, so that is probably +town for him lol

ok, but is saying something like that really something that town says? could be maf just going "here's a town who said something maffy. TIME TO CALL SUS!!"

[Andante]

nothing fire says even sounds like something town would say here, all of this feels like scum not knowing what to do, like, EXACTLYY like me last dance...

[Andante]

whoever pairs with fire tomorrow, be warned, high chance I just vote yall no breaks

[Andante]

mykonian, Lukewarm, Ydra are probably town
That's kinda where I'm at right now

[Andante]

how do yall SR luke right now? lmao

[Andante]

I have arrived

who's mafia

Sorry, don't work that fast lol

Why does scum luke say this instead of quickly BSing some read on someone?

[Andante]

how do yall SR luke right now? lmao

little bit nervous entrance

fire entrance and Noraa entrance? those feel super nervous to me, luke is just mehh

[Andante]

If no other gentlemen are good at reading Ydra, i would like to neighborize them!!

cause ydra, this feels exacly like last game where scum me like entered yelling "i'll dance with anyone"

[Andante]

lol here's me going "as long as I don't actively SR you, I'll probably accept whatever dance partner"
to now "hold up... if I tr someone that everyone else SRs.. I probably need to go with them..."

so much for wanting to pair up asap :/

[Andante]

fire is mafiaaaaaaa

[Andante]

who wouldn't be nervous before a big dance

actually tho weird that you think that, im just p low energy rn and am not trying very hard, don't think nervousness is really on the table. if i were maf id prob be more self conscious about how i sound

why would maf you be more self conscious? you know you for sure get a partner here on d1.. nothing to worry about there

[Andante]

and like, @ fire, it doesn't feel like you're even trying to sort anyone right now

[Andante]

Just as a heads up, I am actively trying to bring down the site wide perception of me being super high energy all of the time. Because, it is pretty not fun when I am town in a low energy irl day, and then everyone decides that low energy luke = scum luke, and so then low energy irl luke feels pressured to amp it up to not eat a miselim.

Take from that what you will, but I am aware that that might lead to me eating some miselims before people buy that I am changing my town playstyle for my own benefit.

I mean, hey, just do what you want!! have a good time!! don't feel like you HAVE to keep up some insane energy all the time, enjoy the game!!!

Like, I know I'll be gone like all tues/thursdays I have to make up for that with more effort on the non tues/thursdays

[Andante]

response to 134

lol the "bell posts a lot. bell town" ?? right.. cause those posts are real towny... mehh I think there's plenty for some initial reads on folks

[Andante]

Bell + Fire should pair up tbh...

[Andante]

that solves that issue tbh, and they just go tomorrow

[Andante]

So Andante is playing how I used to like to play day 1. He's happily drawing fire for me here so I can just let him do his thing. But does mean I feel pretty comfortable with how the game goes.

IS THIS A COMPLIMENT FOR HOW IM PLAYING? LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Andante]

I realize I forgot to announce this in the opening posts but this game has a

Posting Limit

for the Main Thread.

Players are limited to 200 posts per Phase Each - if the limit is reached you will be given five extra posts per Realtime Day as a special allowance.

Examples of Phases are: Pre-Dance, Till Death do Us Part, A New Hope, The Dance, Final Dance, etc

lmaoooo ok so yes I will be using the PT, my partner doesn't have to use it, but I will be spamming that with thoughts, cause yeah otherwise I'm hitting 200 easily

[Andante]

soooooo. who wants to dance?

[Andante]

YES!!! I WOULD LOVE TO DANCE WITH YOU, PRISM!!!!

[Andante]

I know im playing with fire but me asking ydrasse to dance vs prism asking andante.
one is extremely scummy and the equivalent of "anyone want to dance?"
but the other is like apparently so towny that the dance is happening.

how does that make sense

I mean, I'm probably not the best person to answer, but hey I'll give my thoughts, like, hey, if you want to actually offer to ydra, go for it!! I've only been so suspicious of you cause like, you entered deadset on partnering with ydra, you don't care if yall are fighting, from the start it sounds like you've been deadset on TRing ydra no matter what, and I haven't really seen you saying much about anyone else other than "bell towny for posting a lot" where as I feel like I was engaging with a lot of people, and like, sure I don't have Prism as lock town right now, but prism said a point that I like a lot... if I pair with like a universal TR, we 100% draw the night kill. no questions asked, cause I feel like I've very obviously town here (that could be a lie, idk how people see me) but from my actions, I think I am by far the towniest! so like, it makes complete sense for prism to be like "heyyy I wanna partner with you cause high chance you're town"

[Andante]

they are unfair and andante is doing everything to justify a SR on me. that's my point.
and there isn't a clear difference. page 7 is no different from page 1. Prism explicitly states that they think they can sort andante long term. if so, why not wait a little more to propose a dance?

in my opinion, prism could be town but i see a lot more scum motivation in offering to dance with andante on day 7 than i see town motivation. i dont mean this in a offensive way but andante's reads are so heavily dependent on the other person's read on her that i absolutely think scum prism would see that immediately and go aha this looks like an easy pocket in a pt. is it also risky since andante could end up heavily SRed later on? yes, but scum prism has enough skill to protect her i think.
im saying all of this assuming prism is a good scum player which i have no clue if they are but i know prism is pretty experienced so they probs do have a decent scum game.

I said I SR fire more than you? I literally backed off, cause a part of me does think you could be town, I mean, at least I don't think I'm currently death tunneling you? Fire is the most sus one

[Andante]

I know im playing with fire but me asking ydrasse to dance vs prism asking andante.
one is extremely scummy and the equivalent of "anyone want to dance?"
but the other is like apparently so towny that the dance is happening.

how does that make sense

Well, first, I'm not the player that weighed in on your proposal to Ydrasse. Andante was. Maybe she's a better fit to answer. It's also unclear if this is a critique of me proposing, of Andante accepting, or both, because asking about Ydrasse is fundamentally different than asking "anyone" and you treat them as equivalent anyway.

Second, Andante posted that because she's like the energizer bunny or the smiling dog in her picture, eager for more posts and to run around and grab the stick and bring it back and have someone throw it again so she can grab it again and shake head to play with stick pretend it is squirrel oh no they take stick and they can throw it and where stick go there stick must move legs fast and....

Fundamentally I think that enthusiastic pro-activity is a bit +town for her. That's a read rooted in meta. While I didn't comment on it before, I think your Ydrasse reaction is null at best. Just rote pursuit of early/pregame pocket target is plausible.

LMAOOOOOO YOUR READ OF ME IS AMAZING

[Andante]

If no other gentlemen are good at reading Ydra, i would like to neighborize them!!

cause ydra, this feels exacly like last game where scum me like entered yelling "i'll dance with anyone"

ydra and I were maf together? that's why I said what I said to explain that read... I'm confused on the question my friend, and I'd really rather not waste posts on this, like, sorry if I hurt your feelings on something!!! <3 that was not my intention, I mean, just keep playing as you'd normally play? there's plenty of silent voices who I'd yeet over you lol like, one of my posts was literally "whoever partners with fire is dead tomorrow" I did not say that about you...

[Andante]

it's kind of a whole maze of a minefield

once there's a PT minefield goes to the PT, soooo I guess don't really worry about it? idk, I do a lot of thinking out loud, say first thing on my mind, and that's kinda that, and hey, I'll hit 200 posts then completely shut up for all yall

[Andante]

Dogs are very loyal if you play with them. This is true.

are you suggesting I'm just gonna auto TR prism? lol I'm not scared to just leave the dance... it's called I just read everyone else, and prism gets the alignment that's left, and that's only gonna matter if we don't become a nightkill

[Andante]

it's kind of a whole maze of a minefield

once there's a PT minefield goes to the PT, soooo I guess don't really worry about it? idk, I do a lot of thinking out loud, say first thing on my mind, and that's kinda that, and hey, I'll hit 200 posts then completely shut up for all yall

prism and you will dance through the minefield :0 I hope your pt is all town because that would be interesting to read postgame

lol well I'm told Prism doesn't believe in using PTs... so it'll probably just be my thoughts, and if Prism talks it's them going "smh... so bad"

[Andante]

I literally am not going to post in the PT lmao

challenge accepted!!! I'm sure you WILL!!! no one said it had to be game related!!! wooooooo or if you don't I guess it'll just be The Andante Show... which would be a little sad...

[Andante]

Andante immediately taking you up on the offer..

you say that like you think I'd actually wait to make a decision... like, what? you expected me to sit here for 48 hours? lol nahhh we're going for it!!! A partner that isn't gonna force me to solve in the hood? heck yeah!!

also not sure why there's all this prism alignment talk... there's a gentleman that won't have a partner, and will then leave the game... might want to start just focussing on who is getting left behind tbh

[Andante]

maybe I should intentionally hit 200 now so I don't have to deal with talking later...

[Andante]

lol oh wait is this all cause I tunneled scum!Dunn off 1 line recently... I might need to look into that lol but it's late. I'm tired... not a now thing

200 IS MY GOAL!!!!

[Andante]

well prism said this is nothing like you normally play, so my mind is like, oh! fascinating! and yeah

[Andante]

datisi thinks im maf this game? oof that’s a little wild… the stuff from me you “hated” were legit reads??

Also fire ranking Cephrir who hasn’t posted as his 3rd highest tr is odd to me… ahhhhhh this game

[Andante]

my current list of finest gentlemen:

1. bell. seems like town to me, and some people seem to disagree, so there could be some risk of him being left behind, and i would prefer that he stays with us. he seems like he may be less of a romantic dancer, but that doesn't mean it won't be fun, and maybe when the music is just right he will surprise me. but if he does find another partner, i won't be too offended

2. dunnstral. the perfect gentleman. if he is, as prism says, closed off and reserved, then i think a nice private dance, where secret thoughts can be revealed and quiet whispers can be shared, would be a magical experience

3. cephrir. ceph hasn't posted yet but i just

know

that a dance with him would be a dream come true. he would probably be number 1 on my list but i mustn't set my hopes too high. a lady must be coy about these things sometimes

4. noraa. im having trouble getting a read on zir from zir current posts. maybe a dance would help to sort? but maybe it wouldn't. im not sure. i am open to considering the possibility, though, if ze so desires

5. lukewarm. would be okay with them getting left behind, i think their posting is kinda eh so far. but i also think they could be a nice dancer and a dance could help me sort, so if it comes down to it, i may be interested in taking their hand

6. mykonian. probably scum. should be left behind, so at this point i see no reason to accept a proposal here. ive heard rumors that they have two left feet as well

I’d like to bring this back and repeat how much I don’t like anything about it… like, it seriously feels like fire is barely reading the thread, like I definitely have Noraa above Cephrir, it doesn’t feel like a “I think these people are town I want to pair” list, but instead feels like a “I’m most likely to survive if I partner with these people” I can’t be the only one thinking this, like I guess Fire wants to ignore reads on ladies and already partnered people? this just feels like scum in “oh no I need towny partner” mode, like you are going to be guaranteed a partner… yet this is just “I’m gonna take the thread reads and put them in my own words”

[Andante]

Umm only cause I’m doubting my sr on you Noraa, I’m not 100% sold on Datisi town right now, like datisi played a dance game with scum me recently, and I’m not 100% sold this is how town!him approaches this game with me… something felt off so I would wait to propose there… Ydra + You sounds like it could be good if yall both want that, i’m not trying to shut you down!!! but like, I tr nothing about datisi rn, and i just wanna caution you…

lol I sr 2 ladies… SURELY 3rd is a gentleman

[Andante]

1) well I mean “that’s not a tr list, just who I want a hood with” like what.. that came at a point where many people hadn’t entered the thread, and a handful who had barely have anything of content, and the “universal SRs” are at the bottom (no I don’t agree with those being SRs) so it feels odd for sure. what makes you think you can read Ceph in a hood better than Noraa? Noraa sounds like ze will use the hood A LOT, which should be great for sorting, and if not for sorting ze, then for sorting everyone else…

2) What about a dance with Ceph will be a fun dance? You think by him not posting here he’s not gonna post much in a PT?

3) See, my point is, you seem to just be completely ignoring other ladies here, like, you’re deadset on gentlemen, which is kinda weird to me… idk

[Andante]

Luke, please share more on why you think dats and fire are town….

[Andante]

why are we comparing this to a marathon game?? they're completely different

[Andante]

Also Cephrir is like definitely town here

[Andante]

I actually didn't realize the N2+ kill on didn't work by eliminating pairings, still only single players. I knew the first was only solo but assumed the rest were lover kills.

I fuckin' hate mechanics

yeah I was reading that and there's something like people can steal partners or something and I got confused and gave up. I'm town though!!

[Andante]

Of the remaining ladies, I don't trust enchant. I do not want them to make the final pairing. I think we should leave the most important one with fire or datisi atm.

Sorry, phoneposting and it is late:

propose to enchant

You look so wonderful tonight, may I have this dance of you?

LMAOOOOOO

[Andante]

I am kind of surprised to see enchant not just accept the dance offer, regardless of his alignment.

Also, hello Mala

I'm not shocked at all Enchant didn't accept

[Andante]

why did enchant wait till pressured to accept? like, I'd have completely understood not wanting to pair.. like "I DON'T TR ENCHANT" "ENCHANT DANCE WITH ME" that's just.. if myko is town, myko leaves first chance they get.... so why would enchant want to pair with myko?? makes no sense to me, but then the pressure and enchant is like "i accept" like, what??

[Andante]

why did enchant wait till pressured to accept? like, I'd have completely understood not wanting to pair.. like "I DON'T TR ENCHANT" "ENCHANT DANCE WITH ME" that's just.. if myko is town, myko leaves first chance they get.... so why would enchant want to pair with myko?? makes no sense to me, but then the pressure and enchant is like "i accept" like, what??

does that make enchant scum for you? because accepting a dance with a partner who outright doesn't townread you feels like a very shitty strategy, especially when your game-gender is in the minority

I'm not certain actually, but there's something about that I really don't like, and that pair could honestly be S/S and I think that's the best explanation for why people are acting like they are here?? idk, I think I'll just be going back to plan of doing nothing till everyone else pairs up then dealing with it

[Andante]

people want a ceph and fire pair?? fire is mafia... I'm pretty sure ceph isn't

[Andante]

I thinkMala and Ceph would be a good pair.... like that's a pair I'd feel good about

[Andante]

it's more I have strong SRs and you're not one of those, had posts I like ~400 posts ago, I'm like certain Cephrir is town here, and pretty certain Fire is maf, so like, I'd rather not lose a strong TR of mine just to being fire's partner, cause I'm yeeting fire tomorrow. that's happening, I don't care the partner.

[Andante]

I haven't really read the past ~400 posts lol but I'll look into them, I wanna say I was town leaning luke earlier

[Andante]

Oooh

I love the above post.

Andante, i really do think you are town this game so hopefully we can mindmeld more later

how do you feel about luke vs dunn?

lol ok ummm I don't feel great about either, like, I'm more confident that Luke will be town, Dunn started strong then went to what I believe Dunn!maf plays like, Luke... that's like a lot of words/effort lol umm everyone else is calling luke maf though, but idk that case, nor do I really know what scum!luke is like, but I do want to say luke is town, no clue on Dunn. like, I'd rather leave dunn behind than Nora I think.

Ceph strongest TR
then Luke
then Noraa
then Dunn

I think that's where I stand with the gentlemen left

Fire is still maf, so I'd prefer fire +ceph not happen

[Andante]

kinda feels like a pocket attempt that is hilariously misreading the situation

I am unpocketable

[Andante]

Fire is my strongest town read atm. Phone posting, but I am roughly at

Fire,
Nora, Ydra, Mala,
Andante, Ceph
-----
Datisi
----
Prism, one of (myko, enchant), but never both
Dunn

If fire is your strongest TR why did you ask mala to dance and not fire?

[Andante]

people want a ceph and fire pair?? fire is mafia... I'm pretty sure ceph isn't

You’re mafia, I’m pretty sure. Or you’re extremely anti town for no reason which sent my TR of you to the Stone Age.

why am I being anti town for no reason? what? I've been busy, sorry I can't be here 24/7...

[Andante]

right now i'm leaning more than i'm prob gonna accept Luke over Dunn

also noraa i got very upset that you dont wanna pt with me

I'd accept noraa over luke and dunn actually I think, noraa doesn't want to pair with you?

[Andante]

why did enchant wait till pressured to accept? like, I'd have completely understood not wanting to pair.. like "I DON'T TR ENCHANT" "ENCHANT DANCE WITH ME" that's just.. if myko is town, myko leaves first chance they get.... so why would enchant want to pair with myko?? makes no sense to me, but then the pressure and enchant is like "i accept" like, what??

does that make enchant scum for you? because accepting a dance with a partner who outright doesn't townread you feels like a very shitty strategy, especially when your game-gender is in the minority

I'm not certain actually, but there's something about that I really don't like, and that pair could honestly be S/S and I think that's the best explanation for why people are acting like they are here?? idk, I think I'll just be going back

to plan of doing nothing till everyone else pairs up then dealing with it

lol ah yah, I mean hey, yall been talking getting reads, I'm out of the way. I hate when I'm the main one talking, like, then it feels like I'm controlling the conversation, and when I'm controlling it, I can't read interactions of people cause if I have everyone talking to me, and not to each other, that really doesn't help with seeing how people naturally interact, plus like I was legit busy irl so I said that. I don't see the issue?

[Andante]

Yeah, but that’s a bad idea and you should take care of yourself and just say “sorry everyone, I’m sick I’m going to focus on that, will post feeling better”

why do people have to announce here when they're sick?

[Andante]

Yeah, but that’s a bad idea and you should take care of yourself and just say “sorry everyone, I’m sick I’m going to focus on that, will post feeling better”

why do people have to announce here when they're sick?

he's suggesting a healthier alternative to my neurotic obsession with complete control/winning as scum, see 891

not saying anything about this game

mmm see, he's making a huge deal about me going silent too, and I'm starting to wonder if it's just scum looking for an easy push. like, I'm here, giving content.. I had plenty of stuff last time I was here too.. so what I was gone Thursday/Friday?? had 1 "bad post" like, I HAD TO POST SOMETHING and not like I've been following along... I showed up one time saw Prism posts and was like dang prism town hahahaha that's my partner!!! legggoooooo show up now like, why is fire + ceph proposal a thing, someone is saying fire is their strongest tr yet refusing to pair with fire, like so much is happening. Then there's Bell "you no post. you scum" like CHILLLLL why not go give thoughts on the current situation.... if I'm not talking just let me start talking naturally, like sure last dance game I was super lost, but also I like never gave reads, sooo people should let me do my thing, like, there's nothing I can do right now. literally just waiting for people to pair up, and then we go from there... it's not that complicated

lol that is not really directed as a response to the thing quoted, but bam thoughts. hope people are happy...

[Andante]

Yeah, but that’s a bad idea and you should take care of yourself and just say “sorry everyone, I’m sick I’m going to focus on that, will post feeling better”

why do people have to announce here when they're sick?

I suppose you could just not post or say anything. I looked. Back and didn’t see you ever mention that you were busy, going to get busy, or may otherwise be engaged you seemed to present it as a strategy and less due to personal reasons.

Uh, you may very well have the most self-defeating play style on the planet if your goal is not to garner attention.
You’re also, just selling the benefits to a andante shaped hole in the universe, but it sounds like if you weren’t busy you’d have kept on posting is the implication here.

WHY DO I SPECIFICALLY HAVE TO POST MY LIFE SCHEDULE... It's not even relevant, so I just say nothing? like, unless I have to go "hey yall I'm crazy busy every tuesday and thursday" at the start of every single game... I'm normally here every other day, so why is it a problem being gone those 2 days? friday I had an exam then got drunk, like, I'd rather be here when I can fully engage... you "looking back to see if I sad anything about being gone" like, why not see why I call fire maf???? cause fire is not town... still not town. that has not changed.

[Andante]

lol, no you aren't <3

LOL I know... I'm too easy to pocket... fire like instantly backed off.... again... fire is maf...

ceph why did you propose to fire?

[Andante]

noraa is townnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Andante]

Aight w/e guess I'll stop being a prick and go set up at a coffee shop or something

ftr Andante I don't know if I'm more disgusted with you being a productive member of society (exam) or a social one (getting drunk). If it getting drunk was alone in your room at degen hours I guess you're still an acceptable partner.

drunk alone (with my animals) and we watched some baking engineering!!! 10/10 show!!!

[Andante]

I'm still pretty sure Luke is town tbh like, how does maf put in this level of effort??

[Andante]

Also @Bell I'll be gone today cause Easter. Hope you're happy I'm announcing it

[Andante]

Dunn left would've been best case scenario... idk what's happeninggggg this is odd feeling though cause I'm lost/behind/not gonna read, and I'm not maf this time lol

[Andante]

Prism gonna laugh when I insta leave the dance though....

[Andante]

Dunn left would've been best case scenario... idk what's happeninggggg this is odd feeling though cause I'm lost/behind/not gonna read, and I'm not maf this time lol

have you considered actually casing dunn prior to him getting accepted orrrrr

nah no one asked my thoughts

[Andante]

Oooh

I love the above post.

Andante, i really do think you are town this game so hopefully we can mindmeld more later

how do you feel about luke vs dunn?

lol ok ummm I don't feel great about either, like, I'm more confident that Luke will be town, Dunn started strong then went to what I believe Dunn!maf plays like, Luke... that's like a lot of words/effort lol umm everyone else is calling luke maf though, but idk that case, nor do I really know what scum!luke is like, but I do want to say luke is town, no clue on Dunn. like, I'd rather leave dunn behind than Nora I think.

Ceph strongest TR
then Luke
then Noraa
then Dunn

I think that's where I stand with the gentlemen left

Fire is still maf, so I'd prefer fire +ceph not happen

I was also extremely against ceph + fire pairing but then that happened so ehatever

[Andante]

at this point it's like, yall just do you, town is 100% getting left behind, soooo doesn't really matter, it's just, which town do you value most

[Andante]

oh... datisi with dunn... lmao

[Andante]

ah yes... yesterday was easter, told yall I wasn't gonna be here... now there's a million pages.. it's like, i don't even know

[Andante]

nah no one asked my thoughts

i have asked you multiple times to explain your read on me and ceph but go off i guess

if that's the case, sorry.. I missed it

[Andante]

it sounds like I'm just super behind... sorry yall :/

[Andante]

Andante, my wonderful partner who tolerates my two left feet, do you mind tl;dring the fire read? I'm sure it's there somewhere but would be appreciated.

Andante you have like 112 posts left, would love to hear more from you and about why fireisredsir is scum

You're welcome to leave the dance with no elaboration on how or why and lose all further agency if you want. I'm not sure where that even came from, but you can do it, yeah.

hahahaa I have no intentions on leaving, but I need to kinda do stuff of I'm the reason we're getting voted out lol uh yeah, there's quite literally nothing about Fire I TR.... I'm auto voting fire tomorrow

[Andante]

1. cause lol why not?
2. cause that's my thought?
3. I'd rather not case fire right now when doing so is just irrelevant right now
4. not like it matters anymore?

[Andante]

it sounds like I'm just super behind... sorry yall :/

ya there's lots of useful content you havent seen you might wanna try reading it when you can

lol not really free till thursday night.. sooo this game is just gonna be -play in live time, tbh

[Andante]

so yeah, thoughts on Luke and Norra? I think both are town, doesn't really matter which you pick tbh @mala

[Andante]

HELLO WORLD! I am not mafia. Today is long day. I’ll see yall later.

[Andante]

I’d pick Noraa over Luke off of just gut reads, and that when I said Luke was probably town from effort, I was met with “don’t tr me for effort I do this as scum” from luke, and had thoughts of stuff I do as maf, so yeah I’d pick Noraa over Luke, but I’m missing a lot, that’s just my thoughts

[Andante]

Noraa should live

[Andante]

am I the only one on the Noraa should live side?

[Andante]

@Datisi

hi

[Andante]

what’s the benefit to talking now?

[Andante]

We have 200 posts for this 24 hour phase? no one is using them.. hahahaha maybe I just start dumping thoughts here...

[Andante]

No!!!! my PT is amazing so far!!!

[Andante]

If I die here, the party ends....

[Andante]

Also, how Mala picked Luke there at the end is extremely sus to me, like, no.. that pair might be S/S... then the question is, do I want that pair yeeted more than fire/ceph....

[Andante]

uhhh I decided to put that out here cause if Prism kills me, 0 chance Prism outs that, and that's a very real thought I had, like, the way mala picked Luke over Noraa's slot was just like, no... nothing about that was towny. I was like "yo, I TR Noraa over Luke" cause luke basically scum claimed with the "I effort as scum too!!" there's 0 way town!Luke says that, also Firebringer's iso was EXTREMELY towny, so like, no... Mala pair needs to go

[Andante]

I had no clue that FireBringer replaced Noraa, so like, just recently seeing that Firebringer ISO... none yall wanted to go "hey tldr... noraa was replaced..." like.. thanks yall... I skimmed op, and whatever page I was at. no sign of a replacement, like, that was town!Fire... FOR SURE but Mala, who "got busy with RL" or whatever just casually shows up "I pair with luke!!" and that was that... like, no... that was too sus to be town, absolutely not buying it

[Andante]

Why is Bell automatically town for the ydra kill? ydra was universal TR, it makes no sense to kill elsewhere, she's good at making reads too, like, if I was scum and her partner, I'd kill her... althought I thought Prism was looking super towny... so I kinda think prism scum

[Andante]

in a perfect world Bell + Ceph go together though

[Andante]

I mean, if you want to take prism... go for it I guess? I don't think Prism is town tbh, and taking prism implies you SR me, and a bunch of people apparantly want this prism pairing to happen, so whatever... not like anyone is really caring about anything I'm saying anyways

[Andante]

First I’m hearing you think prism isn’t town.

I have a lot of thoughts, and the fact ydra was killed over prism was a bit sus to me cause I thought prism looked very towny and is someone I'd fearkill... not sure why this is a hard thought to believe?

[Andante]

or take mala from luke lol cause luke is still maf

[Andante]

Fireisred/Luke and last is likely Prism yeah

[Andante]

I *might* be wrong on Prism though, cause like Ydra kill does make sense.. but Prism's lack of concern of me being maf is kinda, ehhh idk!! like there hasn't been any doubt of "I think I paired with maf"

[Andante]

mmm that's funny then XD I need to read stll but yeah, I'm town!!

[Andante]

what does X do?

[Andante]

I told yall I thought that pairing was sus!!!! It could just be Mala + Luke for scum... cause I agree with Mala not towny

Dunn likely town

[Andante]

I have four problems with 1172

1. If you have no intention of leaving, what prompted 1155 where you said or implied you would leave
2. Why are you saying you're "The reason we're getting voted out" when that is not at all consensus and also not possible right now
3. That's not an explanation for fire being scum and the conviction shown doesn't match up
4. You don't explain why me being left out is ideal

1. cause lol why not?
2. cause that's my thought?
3. I'd rather not case fire right now when doing so is just irrelevant right now
4. not like it matters anymore?

@Andante We're now in a phase where it is possible for fireisred to die. Please explain your read there.

You said you didn't intend to leave yesterday, why is that the case if you scumread Prism?

Do you believe that I should still be left off? What happened to that meta you said you were going to look at but then never did?

Why did you ask what the point of talking was last night as if you thought it was a bad idea, then proceed to talk about all kinds of things during the night anyway?

I didn't SR prism yesterday, so why would I leave if I don't SR my partner??

my. reads. changeeeee

I SR Fire way too much to ever TR them... Like, I don't think I will ever see fire as town

asked about talking, then realized if I died there was 0 chance prism shared my thoughts, and it's not like prism is talking in the PT, so like, why not say stuff here?? I don't see the issue..

[Andante]

I want to hear more on the people telling Bell to take Prism... that is very interesting to me

[Andante]

I find it hard to believe that you believe you would die over the night

I thought it was likely, but like, I knew I wasn't top candidate, like hey, I know I'm obvious town. a free TR, I may have shit reads a lot, but I'm not hard to read, so like, why leave a universal TR alive?? but I missed a lot so ehhh it is what it is

[Andante]

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO LOCK ME INTO A READ FROM THE BEGINNING. I SAID I NEED TO READ MORE. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Believe it or not Dunn, I've been super busy lately... and it's not my fault everything here happens the 2 days I'm basically gone..

[Andante]

Maybe Bell should just take Prism so then I never have to read.. cause like seriously, when I am free... I WILL...

[Andante]

I haven't seen a single towny post. I had a strong SR at the beginning.

[Andante]

kinda hyped to be a lady tbh

lads you gotta EARN my acceptance. work hard

Feels like overconfident maf, cause all ladies are for sure safe, like "YALL GOTTA COME TO ME FOR SAFETY"

K.
*slams* breaks.
Both of you. Shush for a little. I already see where this is going.
Let’s all lurk for a bit before inevitably losing self control and spamming again.

towny post

Just quoting this and going "towny post" like what?? nothing about that post is super towny, it's just a "large" post here you're just pretending to look busy reading...

who wouldn't be nervous before a big dance

actually tho weird that you think that, im just p low energy rn and am not trying very hard, don't think nervousness is really on the table. if i were maf id prob be more self conscious about how i sound

"If I were maf" there's 0 reason to be self conscious or whatever... when you're in fire's shoes you KNOW you're safe, and now you're just trying to find the towniest person to match with to prolong your survival chances




@Dunn You happy now? THE ISO IS GARBAGE. Most specifically the entrance is so bad. it's maf 100% caring about looks from "yall gotta earn my trust" to "hey look I'm pretending to make reads"

FIRE.IS.NOT.TOWN

[Andante]

I'm waiting for Prism to post and then I'm grabbing Prism

lmao

[Andante]

I'm not saying Andante should die this phase.

I agree!! Andante should not die!

[Andante]

I am really not a fan

ooof that’s sad

[Andante]

can I leave the dance in this phase or do we have to wait for Bell to do his thing? I'm even more convinced prism was maf

[Andante]

the new prism came into the PT telling me how to look less scummy... but that they think I'm town.... that is a mafia slot!!!!

[Andante]

I think I'll wait till morning to actually leave though... lol I'm too tired for this... saw a lot of words in that PT... and we called me scummy.. but scummy town, and like nahhhh we're not discussing my playstyle in that PT... hahahhaha ok I'm sleeping before I actually mess this up. I do NOT tr prism slot.

[Andante]

Dunn and Cephrir are town

[Andante]

OK. Also, you can't actually leave until the next phase, I just wanted to see whether you were blustering or would actually go through with it and attempt to leave.

I'm dead serious. I want to leave. my partner is mafia. and I highly doubt anyone wants bell with me cause all yall were like "TAKE PRISM!!!" that prism slot is mafia I tell you... it is not town at alllll

[Andante]

Ceph, how's Fire in your PT?

[Andante]

AYYYYYY So last time I was maf, and like, we didn't solve in the hood at all, and I kinda liked that sooo I don't plan on posting significantly in the hood, like I'd rather just dump thoughts in the thread, so yeah, but TOWN!!! LET'S GOOOOOO I only accept dance proposals from town! We are endgaming! gg. tryhard mode activated. maf be scared

I know it's the first page but I cant help but talk about this.

Andante states in this post that they were mafia and didn't like posting in hoods not needing to solve. What I can interpret is that they found no real reason to post in hoods, so she decided to write them off for this game.

What I find interesting however, is that I come into the PT and it's literally just Andante trying to strike up any conversation and Prism left her hanging. What I like about this is that I personally can't help but try and socialize(play the game) with whatever topics I'm allowed to post in. It's like I can see the growth of at first thinking the hoods aren't necessary; then thinking hey might as well try and use it since they're town this game and then seeing the frustration of of Prism not posting in the hood.

Now the hood was created on the 18th and I iso'd Prism to check for their interactions with Andante after the hood was created. Didn't really interact with each other. And I kinda forgot where I was going with this cuz I got distracted by the isos. Oh I think what I was looking for was how Prism and Andante interacted in the main thread and not just the PT. Prism and Andante didn't really communicate in the thread, and given Prism's stated annoyance with hoods, I do give props for Andante for trying to do anything at all in the hood. Think about it from scum!Andante perspecitive. You like ignoring hoods as scum, and you get partnered with someone who hates hoods; thats literally a perfect pairing to just ignore it. Now town!Andante however can't help but try to interact. There's that need to solve which is hard to fake.

As silly as this is, I believe Andante is my first townread for the game.


ALSO mala it's way to early to be calling me townie, honestly it shouldn't feel townie because I gave an RVS post and did set up speculation before doing reads like this post. However I didn't have this post yet, so I'm curious what I've done that you felt was townie.

This feels maffy... my partner is mafia. we were the first pair of the game... and I picked a mafia...

[Andante]

Like... "I come into the PT and it's andante talking"

I had 5 posts... 5 whole posts.. 1 was just "wtf? when did firebringer join?"
2 were begging prism to kill me and 2 were just thoughts....

Like, how is that screaming that I'm town....

[Andante]

I want bell to propose to me and Prism slot gone tbh

[Andante]

majiffyyyy

is what i thought andante wrote.

close...

[Andante]

GINNGIE IS TRING ME FOR BAD REASONS!!!! IT PROBABLY JUST COMES FROM MAFIA. MY PARTNER IS MAFIA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Andante]

Dunn and Cephrir are town

Sigh why is cephrir town?

whatever I read from him was really good, it was like a bunch of solving I think, I TRed it, I believe Ceph is town, as much as I believe fire maf. but for now. GINNGIE IS MAFIA AND THAT'S THE MAFIA I WANT OUT

[Andante]

DO NONE YALL BELIEVE ME? PRISM SLOT IS MAFIA

[Andante]

whatever, I can at least try.

I want to leave this dance now

[Andante]

i wouldn't argue with bell stepping in here if you're definitely planning to leave

I am 100% sure my partner is mafia... what choice do I have if bell won't pair with me. I have to leave. simple as that

[Andante]

but i disagree with your partner being scum andante

i'm more confidence elsewhere.

MY PARTNER IS MAFIA, why are you convinced I'm with town?

[Andante]

If you’re 100% sure your partner is mafia then just leave.

well I'm also 100% sure I'm town, so like, if it's possible to just yeet my partner, I'll take that option... whatever you want me dead? I don't even care, I think your deadline to pair is soon anyways

[Andante]

A New Hope ends in: (expired on 2022-04-24 02:00:00)

rip there's a whole 49 more hours of this

[Andante]

why do I even try...

[Andante]

Bell if you TRed prism so much, why not take ginngie?

[Andante]

Okay quick note idk wtf Andantes deal is but I think its gamethrowing that they want to leave the game as soon as possible. I really dont get where that mentality comes from either alignment.

Im not throwing nor do I appreciate this accusation.

[Andante]

After first ten pages of catch up this is where I'm at:

Town: Dunn, Andante, Mala
Not town: Everyone else

dunn because I said so, Andante I've stated clearly and Mala is more townlean but townlean isn't scum so.

RIP only 4 townies in game.

LOL ENCHANT

[Andante]

Both you and the player you replaced have enough posts in the game that I sort of doubt it could be considered game throwing to leave quickly. There’s info to make an informed (if bad) decision.

I’m also just curious if they do it, given someone said they could, then said they couldn’t and then they tried to leave anyway.
Like a dog with a leash. :3

Can we please not even discus me “throwing” I’m not. sure I haven’t read every post of the game, but I’ve read a lot, I have reads.
meanwhile we have Ginngie saying that I should be convincing bell… well excuse me, IF YOU READ THE GAME AT ALL, you’d see I literally tried that last night, bell went “nope” and then I was like oh yeah bell TRs prism.

so like can we not throw around the term throwing? thanks… this week has been stupid rough, and this has only been adding to me stress lately… this isn’t my maf play, and well a PT of like 3 more throwinng accusations… like seriously… can WE JUST PLAY THE GAME…. thanks

[Andante]

Currently leaning to pair with fire.

that makes exactly 0 sense.. what part of Cephrir is scummy? also if that’s your plan can you at least wait 12 hours to let me towncase ceph?

[Andante]

Currently leaning to pair with fire.

I know that this is a situation where you hold sole power, but I don't think that a single person is currently advocating for that to be your choice lol

I mean, how does Bell hold sole power? the person bell wants has to accept. and it really looks like bell is only going "who do I stand the best chance at survivng long game with" cause notice how Bell wants nothing to do with me cause all I've done is "IM LEAVING!!!" bell is trying to find the least likely person to leave tbh... I think I'm good with bell not taking anyone, cause all this mocking me? like bell isn't taking this seriously, I was asking a genuine question, like, I strongly TR ceph, I'd love to know why bell is CONVINCED ceph scum, I think fire never leaves the dance, which is why Bell is trying to go there, and notice how bell isn't actually trying to help sort any of enchant dunn luke mala.. instead "oh yeah I'll take fire!" like what... it was initially "I'll take prism" like, I think I'm pretty obviously town here, bell never once said he wanted to pair with me - and I don't want that to happen, I won't accept now.

umm Bell isn't giving me good vibes, the mocking me isn't helping at all, like, Bell is basically if you take all the reasons I SR fire AND MORE... so yeah I'm good with Bell leaving the dance tbh

[Andante]

towncred level 1000 LEGGOOOOOOOO
can I see where I rank in comparison to how towny Enchant is though?

[Andante]

I mean, how does Bell hold sole power?

He has sole power in who to propose to.

ok? and that person doesn't have to accept, so like, there's no power in that.. and if you've noticed, Bell is being extremely cautious in who he proposes to. Like, why not have a strong read and just go for it, instead of this game of "I'll say I'll partner with everyone... except andante... test the waters...." everything about this feels like scum, and I'm confused why I'm the only one who sees it, you're over here like "BELL HAS SO MUCH POWER" really? the kep part of this is that Bell has to at least pretend to be town here, and I don't think I see anything I can TR from Bell in regards to play here

[Andante]

I'm not saying impulse shoot. I'm saying like, you can talk, make it known what you want to do. but not this testing the waters on everyone thing... and then like "I want to pair with fire" so I go, ok, let me town case Ceph, cause if you pair with fire, ceph dies... and I basically get laughed at

[Andante]

that being the first post i see when i open this game is probably a great sign

hi i'm tired and the idea of catching up on however many pages i need to catch up on is making me uneasy and not wanna even try, can someone point me somewhere where i could/should start

probably the only important this is prism is gone, and is now ginngie


(see people.. not hard to inform folks of that stuff.... the fact none yall told me about Firebringer.... I'm still mad tbh)

[Andante]

uhhh I freaked out thought new prism was mafia... Bell now wants to take fire... I don't think much is happening.... I could be wrong though... that's a recap of the last 12 hours though

[Andante]

the hood was super empty yes. I don’t see the issue?? like how does that make me scummier?

[Andante]

hood ain’t empty now!!!

[Andante]

i’m not intentionally ignoring you!!! i’ll go through your ISO in a few hours, have class now, but yeah no I don’t think I’ve seen most of your posts ._.

bell never said he wanted to pair with me. never. he wanted prism instantly

[Andante]

can I leave the dance in this phase or do we have to wait for Bell to do his thing? I'm even more convinced prism was maf

can I leave the dance in this phase

Yeah, you can

I think I'll wait till morning to actually leave though... lol I'm too tired for this... saw a lot of words in that PT... and we called me scummy.. but scummy town, and like nahhhh we're not discussing my playstyle in that PT... hahahhaha ok I'm sleeping before I actually mess this up. I do NOT tr prism slot.

OK. Also, you can't actually leave until the next phase, I just wanted to see whether you were blustering or would actually go through with it and attempt to leave.

Which this exchange left me wondering if Andante would follow through with it. The immediate back down when Dunn said that she could leave right now (despite that not actually being true

despite you obviously having pressed submit by accident i still get it

yeah that was actually uh, really non adnante esque

Andante being non-Andante?? whaaaaat

[Andante]

uhhh haven't forgotten what I said I'd do here, I'm certain Ginngie is town, there is NO freaking way Ginngie is mafia, I'm using them to help me figure out what my actual reads even are cause here we have town, mafia, and the town I think are mafia, so I'm just figuring out stuff with Ginngie. I'm glad I wasn't able to leave last night, I have some high hopes. maf. we are on to you!!!!

[Andante]

gg lads.... got 2 of them. Bell + Enchant. and who is number three?

what don't you like about that bell?

[Andante]

Because you are now the only pair where I am suspicious of both slots.

uh what? this is the first I'm hearing you're suspicious of both of us

[Andante]

I'm trying to organize my thoughts/where I am in the PT with Ginngie, since yall start yelling at me for just saying them here, so I'm trying to collect my thoughts and figure stuff out with Ginngie, I really TR them. like, the LEVEL of solving, we're basically talking back and forth nonstop about our thoughts, like I truly do not think Ginngie is scum, we're both town.

[Andante]

I'm trying to organize my thoughts/where I am in the PT with Ginngie, since yall start yelling at me for just saying them here, so I'm trying to collect my thoughts and figure stuff out with Ginngie, I really TR them. like, the LEVEL of solving, we're basically talking back and forth nonstop about our thoughts, like I truly do not think Ginngie is scum, we're both town.

[Andante]

why do you think enchant is town

hard ask

Both in the neighbourhood and the threat he's been relatively straightforward, I'd say. Survivalistic and adding little, but not scummy. I think the posts that are there are decently transparent.

Alternatively, if he's scum, we do have to make some assumptions of somehow quite premediated play? Which doesn't sound like enchant at all here.


Fuck it, even Bell doesn't believe in this, and he set it up.

So you were convinced Enchant was town, yet left enchant anyways for bell? See, to me.. this feels like you're scum. Enchant joined me in joking about leaving, and you know that town enchant probaby would leave for lols, so you jumped on the chance to get a new partner... you needed enchant to survive the first phase, then first chance you get, you're all "ok must leave you before you leave me!!!" especially after you were all "enchant is town!!" like, it makes 0 sense to me, to leave someone you're calling town, for someone you're not voicing a read on... unless there's scum motivations behind it.

[Andante]

VOTE: andante

going from "my partner is scum!! i will attempt to leave!!" during the time THEY WERE TOLD they cannot leave, into "i really tr my partner now!!!" is lmao

???

[Andante]

Datisi is mafia. I'm pretty certain of that one, I'm just an easy push so that's why Datisi is pushing me... if we're comparing to last dance game, cause I saw that was one of Datisi's points against me,

let's look at this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... overview=1

Datisi's PT from the last game... where he was in fact town. So accoring to stuff said here, he has like no posts in the PT? interesting.....

[Andante]

have you also compared the amount of free time i had during the christmas break and during exam season or are you just looking for a way to omgus me?

that depends. are you even actually trying to read me? or am I just easy to push cause I've been busy with school?

[Andante]

VOTE: andante

going from "my partner is scum!! i will attempt to leave!!" during the time THEY WERE TOLD they cannot leave, into "i really tr my partner now!!!" is lmao

I literally have a PT with WALL POSTS from Ginngie... and you're like "the transition of Andante's read on partner makes 0 sense" like excuse me.. not sure how many time I have to say, Ginngie in this PT NOW is extremely towny, and obviously I'd be upset if I lost prism, prism got replaced with someone idk... and new person is saying my playstyle is scummy... like, I don't see how it's even a big deal... so if you want to 1v1 me, go for it, but I don't think myko is town, I think the motivations for leaving enchant were scummy, and Luke is another top candidate for scum, so like, if you're town, I'd rather not do this, but if you want to go, I have no problem just tunneling you here.
The ball is in your court, let me know what kind of game we're playing

[Andante]

Datisi scumclaimed because they said they would rather focus on exams than play mafia

LMAOOOO I mean, I dedicate 2 whole days to an essay off a 4 hour movie XD got a 90% so wooooo

[Andante]

have you also compared the amount of free time i had during the christmas break and during exam season or are you just looking for a way to omgus me?

that depends. are you even actually trying to read me? or am I just easy to push cause I've been busy with school?

yes, i called you out early game for nonsense reads and you ignored me

then you vanished once your own pair was formed

then you started bs'ing how your partner is mafia and how you want to leave them (when it was said that you cannot leave them) and you still tried to do it

and now that you CAN leave, you magically strong townread them?

and also the cephrir case that you kept saying you were gonna make but never did does seem like you wanted bell to kill a player that's a bit more difficult to kill than enchant is

but sure, i'm pushing you because it's easy, you got it

nothing I've said was nonsense...

so you're allowed to vanish cause school, but I'm not???

It wasn't BS about my partner, if you saw the PT I have, you'd probably undrstand, like, number one way for me to SR you is to out bad reads on me, and well... telling me how I always play is bad.. yeah, but it's gotten game related, and I'm dead serious, Ginngie has givven GIANT posts that make me never able to SR them

uhhh it was late, I was mad. probably would have left on impulse too, and now that I'm thinking clearly, we're good, I will never leave Ginngie, they can leave me, but the ammount of effort they're putting in? I can't do that to them

Uh Ceph stuff I said to Ginngie, I needed time to like put posts together and "make it look nice" for yall cause I get shit anytime I say anything reads related...

[Andante]

if you're town, I'd rather not do this, but if you want to go, I have no problem just tunneling you here.

lmao what kinda threat is this? "i think you're town, but if you don't stop scumreading me i will tunnel you"

I don't think you're town, I'm just sying if you are you're genuinely wasting your time... Ginngie and I are both town, and I feel like town you would actually want to work with us

[Andante]

also like, no i don't really care about what was said or wasn't said in hoods because those things are a breeding ground for crappy pockets, so.

lmaooo like, I understand sure easy to pocket people in hoods, but like when your partner is actively solving with you... it's just like, you agree with their logic.. yall are on the same page... finding maf together... I don't see the problem with liking hoods??

why would datisi say this though if he's SRing me? like, I thought I was maf here, are you trying to make me paranoid of Ginngie?? like, Datisi is pushing me just to push me, and he KNOWS I don't work well under pressure so that's literally all he's trying to do here with me

[Andante]

Sure, Andante, but does scum you work well under pressure?

idk, I'm town here, and I can tell yall I HATE all this pressure when I'm genuinely trying my best, like, it's just frustrating, that's for sure, cause I feel like I should be an easy TR right now... and the fact no one does?? I mean I have one of yall going like "andante expects her personality to carry her" like... EXCUSE ME???? sorry you hate my personality?? but I'm town here, and working on collecting my thoughts and making them more "comprehendible" for yall

[Andante]

I mean, yes I know what my scumgame is like, but me discussing it here makes it irrelevent, if I give you my scum "meta" I can easily change it, feel free to go look at my "most recent" scum game of The Fish in The Sea, I'm a good scum player, uhhh idk what to tell you

[Andante]

as scum I'm like never under pressure, last dance game I was scum!! uhhh I don't remember what I did though, I was barely here and there were a million posts... uhh I tried to 1v1 nancy to spam the thread!! but yeah, I'm like never under pressure as scum?? idk what you're going at bell

[Andante]

@everyone

maf me, last dance game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88375

there you go. and now I'm done with the meta talk. yes 300 pages... wow... so representative of my scum abilities!!!

alright, I'm done with that talk

[Andante]

@everyone

maf me, last dance game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88375

there you go. and now I'm done with the meta talk. yes 300 pages... wow... so representative of my scum abilities!!!

alright, I'm done with that talk

That's also a town!Datisi game... and datisi is very different here sooooo

[Andante]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88375 gives a view of Andante scum.

way ahead of you.

AYYYY I missed that lol, although like to be fair, I got lost with the sheer number of posts that game, so like it's not a good representaion of my scum abilities... but I just skimmed that now, like, if I remember that game, I was scared to commit to giving any reads, then like here, I've been laying out my full thought process... I have a partner who talks to me? ok I'm talking back, like we're almost to 100 posts in that PT... then whenever I look here it's people like "ANDANTE DIDN'T DO THIS!! MAF!!!" like geniuses.. I told yall I was busy.. there's literally 2 weeks left in the semester... doing what I can here, and I'm scared of giving thoughts here, so I just share with Ginngie, and she's helping me feel better about my reads sooo yeah good stuff.

[Andante]

as scum I'm like never under pressure, last dance game I was scum!! uhhh I don't remember what I did though, I was barely here and there were a million posts... uhh I tried to 1v1 nancy to spam the thread!! but yeah, I'm like never under pressure as scum?? idk what you're going at bell

you spent the first 20 posts talking about how you were under pressure and suspected by 3 other players.

with a "lol who cares" attitude, so I don't get the point?? that also was not pressure. pressure is people voting you

[Andante]

as scum I'm like never under pressure, last dance game I was scum!! uhhh I don't remember what I did though, I was barely here and there were a million posts... uhh I tried to 1v1 nancy to spam the thread!! but yeah, I'm like never under pressure as scum?? idk what you're going at bell

you spent the first 20 posts talking about how you were under pressure and suspected by 3 other players.

with a "lol who cares" attitude, so I don't get the point?? that also was not pressure. pressure is people voting you

That came in the net few posts and there's a parallel with how you approach my suspicion of you in that you also acted nonchalant in an exaggerated manner in both games. It would be difficult not to see it as a bluff. Since the posts are ust designed to say "I don't care" and don't say anything else.

what about me this game has said "lol i don't care"

[Andante]

WAIT... OTHER THAN THAT NIGHT I FREAKED OUT... That was "I'm gonna openwolf as town cause I don't care about this right now"

[Andante]

I'm literally not being fake?? My top SRs are myko/Luke/Datisi right now.. ama lets go, what do you want to know? I'm here for a good time, and that's always plan A. and while having a good time, I make reads and that is that, not my fault my reads change a lot...

[Andante]

WAIT... OTHER THAN THAT NIGHT I FREAKED OUT... That was "I'm gonna openwolf as town cause I don't care about this right now"

If you didn't care about this you wouldn't post at all and do something you cared about.

umm lmao there was definitely a point in this game I went "Ginngie feel free to leave, I am done" yes usually I just step away then come back in a better mood, like clearly I'm caring now!! just hard to REALLY care when it feels like the entire table SRs you, like, yeah good stuff

[Andante]

i am surprised that andante is not interacting with my recent content. idk what i expected but it wasn't nothing

yeah, I just saw it, and was like, mmk sure let me find my "case" in the PT but like, me outing it is just gonna be met with "THAT'S NOT A CASE!!!"

So to basically summarize what I said in the PT yesterday:

Ceph's recent "I don't trust myself with my andante read, I give that to fire" I can definitely see town!Ceph being like that, cause he just pocketed me in CONTROL, where he was maf, I was town, and what he did was just talk me into my wrong reads, and out of my right reads, I've been absent from too much of this game though to really test that here, so that's not a super reliable way to read him.

if you pull up the Cephrir ISO, at the beginning, like 272-280ish he had a LOT of back to back posts, and I usually see town do that. When I questioned someone about their reads, Cephrir called something out, (Ginngie quoted part of it) I really like that, felt like Ceph was actively reading/engaging and trying to find maf.

[Andante]

yeah here for 20 minutes though so lets go bell (and anyone else I guess)

[Andante]

Okay but what is a good time to you? What parts of mafia do you enjoy the most? Which parts make you happiest and which parts make you saddest?

LOL that is... a large question.. like, just really depends, like saddest part is waking up to everyone yelling at me that I'm throwing when I was just trying my best... most parts are happy though

[Andante]

My top SRs are myko/Luke/Datisi right now.. ama lets go, what do you want to know?

Why are you not currently voting for any of these names?

cause I'm still figuring out my reads with Ginngie?? there's no rush...

[Andante]

My top SRs are myko/Luke/Datisi right now.. ama lets go, what do you want to know?

Why are you not currently voting for any of these names?

What happened to your fire scum read?

it's still there, I'm choosing to ignore it though, the pt has a lot of me quoting stuff fire says and telling ginggie I SR fire.... fun facts!!!

[Andante]

AYYYYY WE GOT A MAF FLIP!!! lmaoooo not someone I was actually SRing.. nice

[Andante]

2 more to go

[Andante]

Any idea who those two might be?

Probably Datisi and myko