open 852: store bought potions (sold!)

[schadd_]

open 852: store bought potions

the theme will be music from 2022

Spoiler: playerlist

1. The toad
   Gamma Emerald
   
   
2. JohnnyFarrar
   Venus and Mars (Nancy Drew 39 & Shiro) Nancy Sinatra
   
   
3. Flea The Magician
   
4. Enchant
   
5. Facebones
   
6. KittyTacky
   
7. Not_Mafia
   
8. Dwlee99
   
9. Save The Dragons
   
10. humaneatingmonkey
    
11. Roden

Spoiler: alive

• The toad
  
• JohnnyFarrar
  
• Enchant
  
• KittyTacky
  
• Not_Mafia
  
• Dwlee99
  
• Save The Dragons
  
• Roden

Spoiler: reveals

d1: Facebones was

town

and had 2 pain potions & a doctor potion.
d2: humaneatingmonkey was town & had no potions
n2: flea the magician was town & had no potions

[schadd_]

general:

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vote: schadd

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SETUP:

• there are 8 town and 3 mafia
  
• players start with 2 HP, and die when their HP goes to 0. nobody knows what their HP is other than that it starts at 2. executions occur as normal.
  
• all actions emerge from potions, and players may use one each night by default. whenever a player takes an action, they lose the potion that allowed them to take the action (though the potion may be received by another player). there is not a factional nightkill.
  
• players will flip with their alignment & the inventory of potions they had when they died
  
• players are allowed to claim their ingredients
  
• potions will generally not taste very good

reiterating from mini theme 2229 with no changes (other than wording):

• every player gets: approximately 1 pain potion. approximately 0.65 harmography potions. approximately 0.2 jailkeeper potions. approximately 0.3 doctor potions.
  
• every member of the mafia gets approximately 0.4 additional pain potions, and approximately 0.7 potions of Drink More Potions.
  
• on day 4, everybody dumps their potions into the Torlet. then a magical fairy brings everyone a new distribution of potions by the same rules that they got them on the first day (which can then be used as soon as night 4); there is one difference, which is that town players get approx. 0.8 doctor potions instead of 0.3. if the game reaches day 7, players will again dump their potions into the Torlet leading to a vanilla nightless game.
  
• when i say "approximately
  n
  potions", i mean generated via poisson distribution with λ=
  n
  . i'll elaborate on this a little bit in the next post

Spoiler: R code to generate a setup from D1

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"town pain potions"
rpois(8, 1)
"town harmographies"
rpois(8, 0.65)
"town jails, town docs"
rpois(8, 0.2)
rpois(8, 0.3)
"mafia pain potions"
rpois(3, 1.4)
"mafia harmos"
rpois(3, 0.65)
"maf jails, maf docs"
rpois(3, 0.2)
rpois(3, 0.3)
"maf DMPs"
rpois(3, 0.7)

minutia:

• if somebody jailkeeps another player who attempts to use Drink More Potions, only the DMP will fail and the other potions that player attempted to use will not be wasted (naturally they are informed of this).
  
• if two players use jailkeeper on each other, both will be protected from harm
  
• if two members of the mafia both use Drink More Potions and then attempt to jailkeep each other while taking other actions, both players will explode and die
  
• a harmography potion is still able to detect pain potion usages which fail as a result of their target being doctored or imprisoned; however, pain potions that fail because the
  perpetrator
  is imprisoned will not be detected

here's what the potions look like (they appear in this order in role PMs):

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action to deal damage to them.

ingredients: brown crud, crud, grey witherments, beargstranous taratonoil, broken magics, mute blue crud

potion of Drink More Potions:

at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients: peanit oil, grey witherments, slick rot, plastoce, beargstran molecule, baseball, greed drum

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night. a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

ingredients: green crud, grey witherments, tonine, broken magics, mute blue crud

potion of Jailkeeper:

at night, you may drink this potion to temporarily become a jailkeeper (you will not be financially compensated during that time) and Imprison another player; that player's potions will fail to take effect, and they will be immune to damage.

ingredients: brown crud, stink, music, crud, grey witherments, broken magics, beargstran molecule

potion of Doctor:

at night, you may pour this potion on a saguaro cactus (one will be provided to you if necessary) and it will gain medicinal capabilities, able to save another player from 1 HP of Pain.

ingredients: peanit oil, bexynol hoargstanate-5, grey witherments, broken magics, lawsuit

[schadd_]

quick poisson primer

something that will be very helpful for you if you're trying to think about the setup probabilities is going to wolfram alpha and typing out e.g. "poisson density function for lambda = 4.2". in that case, it analyzes the outcomes you'd get if i handed out "approximately 4.2 potions" per this setup (i.e., a poisson event with an average output of 4.2).



the x axis here is a certain amount of potions, and the y axis is the probability that you'd get exactly that many. so in that case there would be a 2% chance of getting 0 potions, 7% chance of getting 1, 14% chance of getting 2, and so on.

i chose the number 4.2 because that represents the total amount of potions received by mafia. each one individually receives 1.4 (and you could look at those probabilities by saying lambda = 1.4), and you add those together to get 4.2. normally the probability distribution looks different when you take three random things and add them together, but with poisson it works out like that

[schadd_]

well i have scent out role PMs.

[schadd_]

i don't want to say goodbye
let's meet up after we die

vote count 1.0

not voting (11):

Gamma Emerald, Nancy Sinatra, Flea The Magician, Enchant, Facebones, KittyTacky, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons, humaneatingmonkey, Roden

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

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• everybody confirmed

[Save The Dragons]

[Enchant]

So, let's pick 4-5 losers and throw pain potions at them.

[Flea The Magician]

Obligatory potion seller meme

VOTE: Sinatra

[Roden]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Any clodpole potions to offer?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Flea the Magician

[humaneatingmonkey]

fucking finally!

[humaneatingmonkey]

[KittyTacky]

This mechanic seems cool. So as I understand it, everyone is an unreliable kill-only Watcher, Vigilante, JK, or doc.

[Nancy Drew 39]

ego

[Nancy Sinatra]

The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.

~N

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: STD

Hello there

[ItalianoVD]

Ego

[Nancy Sinatra]

Is that you Gamma? Pretty cool looking guy lol

~VD

[Enchant]

I have problem that i read Torlet like Toilet and then wondered why i need pour potions here at Day 4 and why fairy reward me for that.

Either way, if someone got lucky and got two pots of pain, they need say, so we plan our damage output.

[KittyTacky]

I have problem that i read Torlet like Toilet and then wondered why i need pour potions here at Day 4 and why fairy reward me for that.

Either way, if someone got lucky and got two pots of pain, they need say, so we plan our damage output.

Wait, it's not supposed to be a creative spelling of "Toilet"?

As I understand it, multiple players can attack someone with pain pots, we could just use it as a double lim by telling people to use their pain pots on someone the next night. I propose that we use HURT: tags for this.

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[hurt][/hurt]

[Enchant]

... Perhaps. I don't know English well.

I already thinked how we can organise, and best organisation is no organisation at all. Mafia is too easily can avoid/counter organisation.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hey Enchant

[Facebones]

Hey pals, it's me- FACEBONES
For what it's worth I'm pretty sure (like 90%) that torlet is supposed to mean toilet.

The mathematics behind the potion distribution made my head hurt. Buttt I'm no evolutionary fuckin' physicist or anything. That's alright though, I've got a simple grasp as to how the game works I

think

hope.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like panning out pain potion targets early wouldn’t be wise

[Facebones]

every member of the mafia gets approximately 0.4 additional pain potions, and approximately 0.7 potions of Drink More Potions.

potion of Drink More Potions: at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

Does this mean mafia could get 2 more potions N1? Is it specific to pain potions or could it be any?
Does mafia get JK potions or whatever else on top of their drink more and pain or is it exclusive?
Those are all the questions I have for now

I'm sure more will come