open 852: store bought potions (sold!)

[schadd_]

open 852: store bought potions

the theme will be music from 2022

Spoiler: playerlist

1. The toad
   Gamma Emerald
   
   
2. JohnnyFarrar
   Venus and Mars (Nancy Drew 39 & Shiro) Nancy Sinatra
   
   
3. Flea The Magician
   
4. Enchant
   
5. Facebones
   
6. KittyTacky
   
7. Not_Mafia
   
8. Dwlee99
   
9. Save The Dragons
   
10. humaneatingmonkey
    
11. Roden

Spoiler: alive

• The toad
  
• JohnnyFarrar
  
• Enchant
  
• KittyTacky
  
• Not_Mafia
  
• Dwlee99
  
• Save The Dragons
  
• Roden

Spoiler: reveals

d1: Facebones was

town

and had 2 pain potions & a doctor potion.
d2: humaneatingmonkey was town & had no potions
n2: flea the magician was town & had no potions

[schadd_]

general:

- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread.
- days will be 10 days long.
- night phases will last 40 hours maximum. on any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
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This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data; please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule.

Paraphrasing is acceptable.
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- i don't like players using the term "lynch" in my game, and i make an effort to provide a bunch of fun and stupid alternatives. i would appreciate seeing that effort returned
- it is also like against site rules i guess

- rule number 1: don't break the rulez

voting / player actions:

- Vote either with vote tags (VOTE: schadd) or with bold (

vote: schadd

). Note that I didn't include the underscore in my username; you may choose to use a string that will uniquely identify a player to me instead of the exact thing.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An Execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. if no majority is reached by deadline, then i will flip the person with the most votes (ties are broken via random selection).
- Following an execution, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
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activity:

- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
-

If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so - if you want to rescind the replacement BLEASE PM ME AGAIN and dont post in thread until i have been like "ok np"

things:

-

Aquamarine, 21B35F

is my color. Please don't use it. i dont use it either because i think it's hard to read on mafsilver
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
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- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

SETUP:

• there are 8 town and 3 mafia
  
• players start with 2 HP, and die when their HP goes to 0. nobody knows what their HP is other than that it starts at 2. executions occur as normal.
  
• all actions emerge from potions, and players may use one each night by default. whenever a player takes an action, they lose the potion that allowed them to take the action (though the potion may be received by another player). there is not a factional nightkill.
  
• players will flip with their alignment & the inventory of potions they had when they died
  
• players are allowed to claim their ingredients
  
• potions will generally not taste very good

reiterating from mini theme 2229 with no changes (other than wording):

• every player gets: approximately 1 pain potion. approximately 0.65 harmography potions. approximately 0.2 jailkeeper potions. approximately 0.3 doctor potions.
  
• every member of the mafia gets approximately 0.4 additional pain potions, and approximately 0.7 potions of Drink More Potions.
  
• on day 4, everybody dumps their potions into the Torlet. then a magical fairy brings everyone a new distribution of potions by the same rules that they got them on the first day (which can then be used as soon as night 4); there is one difference, which is that town players get approx. 0.8 doctor potions instead of 0.3. if the game reaches day 7, players will again dump their potions into the Torlet leading to a vanilla nightless game.
  
• when i say "approximately
  n
  potions", i mean generated via poisson distribution with λ=
  n
  . i'll elaborate on this a little bit in the next post

Spoiler: R code to generate a setup from D1

Code: Select all

"town pain potions"
rpois(8, 1)
"town harmographies"
rpois(8, 0.65)
"town jails, town docs"
rpois(8, 0.2)
rpois(8, 0.3)
"mafia pain potions"
rpois(3, 1.4)
"mafia harmos"
rpois(3, 0.65)
"maf jails, maf docs"
rpois(3, 0.2)
rpois(3, 0.3)
"maf DMPs"
rpois(3, 0.7)

minutia:

• if somebody jailkeeps another player who attempts to use Drink More Potions, only the DMP will fail and the other potions that player attempted to use will not be wasted (naturally they are informed of this).
  
• if two players use jailkeeper on each other, both will be protected from harm
  
• if two members of the mafia both use Drink More Potions and then attempt to jailkeep each other while taking other actions, both players will explode and die
  
• a harmography potion is still able to detect pain potion usages which fail as a result of their target being doctored or imprisoned; however, pain potions that fail because the
  perpetrator
  is imprisoned will not be detected

here's what the potions look like (they appear in this order in role PMs):

potion of Harmography:

at night, you may drink this potion and gaze discerningly at another player. come morning, you will find out each player that enacted a potion action to deal damage to them.

ingredients: brown crud, crud, grey witherments, beargstranous taratonoil, broken magics, mute blue crud

potion of Drink More Potions:

at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients: peanit oil, grey witherments, slick rot, plastoce, beargstran molecule, baseball, greed drum

potion of Pain:

at night, you may drizzle this on a player's dinner; they will take 1 HP of damage by the end of the night. a player is unable to use more than one Pain potion each night.

ingredients: green crud, grey witherments, tonine, broken magics, mute blue crud

potion of Jailkeeper:

at night, you may drink this potion to temporarily become a jailkeeper (you will not be financially compensated during that time) and Imprison another player; that player's potions will fail to take effect, and they will be immune to damage.

ingredients: brown crud, stink, music, crud, grey witherments, broken magics, beargstran molecule

potion of Doctor:

at night, you may pour this potion on a saguaro cactus (one will be provided to you if necessary) and it will gain medicinal capabilities, able to save another player from 1 HP of Pain.

ingredients: peanit oil, bexynol hoargstanate-5, grey witherments, broken magics, lawsuit

[schadd_]

quick poisson primer

something that will be very helpful for you if you're trying to think about the setup probabilities is going to wolfram alpha and typing out e.g. "poisson density function for lambda = 4.2". in that case, it analyzes the outcomes you'd get if i handed out "approximately 4.2 potions" per this setup (i.e., a poisson event with an average output of 4.2).



the x axis here is a certain amount of potions, and the y axis is the probability that you'd get exactly that many. so in that case there would be a 2% chance of getting 0 potions, 7% chance of getting 1, 14% chance of getting 2, and so on.

i chose the number 4.2 because that represents the total amount of potions received by mafia. each one individually receives 1.4 (and you could look at those probabilities by saying lambda = 1.4), and you add those together to get 4.2. normally the probability distribution looks different when you take three random things and add them together, but with poisson it works out like that

[schadd_]

well i have scent out role PMs.

[schadd_]

i don't want to say goodbye
let's meet up after we die

vote count 1.0

not voting (11):

Gamma Emerald, Nancy Sinatra, Flea The Magician, Enchant, Facebones, KittyTacky, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons, humaneatingmonkey, Roden

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• thread unlocked
  
• everybody confirmed

[schadd_]

every member of the mafia gets approximately 0.4 additional pain potions, and approximately 0.7 potions of Drink More Potions.

potion of Drink More Potions: at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

Does this mean mafia could get 2 more potions N1? Is it specific to pain potions or could it be any?
Does mafia get JK potions or whatever else on top of their drink more and pain or is it exclusive?

if you have questions for me, ideally you can bold them.

mafia get approx 1.4 pain potions (instead of approx 1) and approx 0.7 "drink more potions" potions, in addition to the four things that it is stated every player receives. all of this happens in pregame, and then again d4

[schadd_]

i'm not saying i'm not jealous, or scared anymore
i'm just saying

vote count 1.1

Not_Mafia (2):

Roden, Not_Mafia

Nancy Sinatra (1):

Flea The Magician

Flea The Magician (1):

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons (1):

Dwlee99

not voting (6):

Nancy Sinatra, Enchant, Facebones, KittyTacky, Save The Dragons, humaneatingmonkey

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• e

[schadd_]

changing a clause in the rules to this:

if no majority is reached by deadline, then i will flip the person with the most votes (ties are broken via random selection).

in keeping with the rules of the last game under this setup, since there is the possibility of stalling out day phases indefinitely after d4

[schadd_]

we fuckin powerful baby look what we made it through

vote count 1.2

Nancy Sinatra (3):

Flea The Magician, Save The Dragons, humaneatingmonkey

Not_Mafia (2):

Roden, Not_Mafia

Flea The Magician (1):

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons (1):

Dwlee99

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Nancy Sinatra

not voting (3):

Enchant, Facebones, KittyTacky

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• e

[schadd_]

i would really appreciate if players tried not to use up so much vertical space in their posts, by e.g. not including the same reaction gif several times and/or not posting 100 miltank gifs

[schadd_]

prodding dwlee, facebones, flea the magician, kittytacky

[schadd_]

[epic piano]

vote count 1.3

Not_Mafia (4):

Roden, Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons, Flea The Magician

humaneatingmonkey (2):

Nancy Sinatra, Enchant

Nancy Sinatra (2):

humaneatingmonkey, Dwlee99

Flea The Magician (1):

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons (1):

KittyTacky

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• @mod, am I allowed to link a game from MU?

  yea

[schadd_]

if you like a girl that does what she's supposed to do
(and i don't)

vote count 1.4

Nancy Sinatra (2):

Dwlee99, Save The Dragons

Enchant (2):

humaneatingmonkey, Roden

Dwlee99 (2):

Gamma Emerald, Nancy Sinatra

Not_Mafia (1):

Not_Mafia

Save The Dragons (1):

KittyTacky

Roden (1):

Enchant

not voting (2):

Facebones, Flea The Magician

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beees

[schadd_]

dwlee uses they/them

[schadd_]

italianoVD is leaving the game and so the slot is now just nancy drew 39 (she is free to just use that account)

[schadd_]

offer my thought, into you i am thrown

vote count 1.5

Save The Dragons (4):

KittyTacky, Nancy Sinatra, Roden, humaneatingmonkey

Nancy Sinatra (2):

Dwlee99, Save The Dragons

Not_Mafia (2):

Not_Mafia, Flea The Magician

Dwlee99 (1):

Gamma Emerald

Roden (1):

Enchant

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beeees

[schadd_]

nancy sinatra is being replaced by venus and mars, a hydra of nd39 & shiro

[schadd_]

[instrumental]

vote count 1.6

Save The Dragons (3):

KittyTacky, Venus and Mars, humaneatingmonkey

Not_Mafia (2):

Not_Mafia, Flea The Magician

Venus and Mars (1):

Dwlee99

Dwlee99 (1):

Gamma Emerald

Roden (1):

Enchant

Gamma Emerald (1):

Save The Dragons

not voting (2):

Facebones, Roden

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beeeees

[schadd_]

we'll go high, touchin satellites
so let's ride . . .

vote count 1.7

KittyTacky (2):

Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons

Save The Dragons (1):

KittyTacky

Not_Mafia (1):

Venus and Mars

Venus and Mars (1):

Dwlee99

Dwlee99 (1):

Gamma Emerald

Roden (1):

Enchant

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Flea The Magician

Flea The Magician (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (2):

Facebones, Roden

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beeeeees

[schadd_]

꿈처럼 baby

vote count 1.8

KittyTacky (3):

Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons, Enchant

Not_Mafia (2):

Venus and Mars, KittyTacky

humaneatingmonkey (2):

Flea The Magician, Roden

Venus and Mars (1):

Dwlee99

Dwlee99 (1):

Gamma Emerald

Flea The Magician (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beeeeeees

[schadd_]

[instrumental]

vote count 1.9

KittyTacky (3):

Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons, Enchant

Not_Mafia (2):

Venus and Mars, KittyTacky

humaneatingmonkey (2):

Flea The Magician, Roden

Venus and Mars (1):

Dwlee99

Dwlee99 (1):

Gamma Emerald

Roden (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• oh no beeeeeeees

[schadd_]

and if you ask her what she's using,
she'd say anything i can get my hands on

vote count 1.a

KittyTacky (3):

Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons, Enchant

Facebones (3):

Flea The Magician, Venus and Mars, Gamma Emerald

Not_Mafia (1):

KittyTacky

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Roden

Venus and Mars (1):

Dwlee99

Roden (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• 1589: shiro has been in the game for longer than the 48 hours i usually give for replacements, so no

[schadd_]

d1 final

Facebones (5):

Flea The Magician, Venus and Mars, Gamma Emerald, Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons

KittyTacky (2):

Enchant, Dwlee99

Not_Mafia (1):

KittyTacky

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Roden

Roden (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (1):

Facebones


with deadline having passed, we move to a plurality execution

[schadd_]

Facebones was

town

and had 2 pain potions & a doctor potion.

night 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-09 07:36:00). reminder that everybody loses their potions and gets new ones on day 4.

[schadd_]

everyone survives the night.

only natural to harden up

vote count 2.0

not voting (10):

Gamma Emerald, Venus And Mars, Flea The Magician, Enchant, KittyTacky, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons, humaneatingmonkey, Roden

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-19 12:00:03)

modorator notes

• thread unlocked
  
• b

[schadd_]

@mod, why didn’t we get d2 start pms?

oh i sent one to nancy sinatra accidentally

[schadd_]

nostalgia por épocas no vividas

vote count 2.1

Not_Mafia (2):

Dwlee99, KittyTacky

humaneatingmonkey (1):

Roden

Gamma Emerald (1):

Save The Dragons

Roden (1):

humaneatingmonkey

Save The Dragons (1):

Gamma Emerald

not voting (4):

Venus And Mars, Flea The Magician, Enchant, Not_Mafia,

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-19 12:00:03)

modorator notes

• b

[schadd_]

i was obsessed, how could i make my paper stretch

vote count 2.2

humaneatingmonkey (4):

Roden, Venus And Mars, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons

Not_Mafia (2):

Dwlee99, KittyTacky

Save The Dragons (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (3):

Flea The Magician, Enchant, Not_Mafia

with 10 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-06-19 12:00:03)

modorator notes

• @mod

  will the potion be spent if the user was jailed instead?

  actions made to fail by jailkeep will still use up a potion; if someone is jailed while using drink more potions, only the DMP gets used

[schadd_]

ㅋ

[schadd_]

in these crack commandments i'm moses yeah

d2 final

humaneatingmonkey (6):

Venus And Mars, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, KittyTacky, Roden, Not_Mafia

Not_Mafia (1):

Dwlee99

Save The Dragons (1):

humaneatingmonkey

not voting (2):

Flea The Magician, Enchant

with 10 alive, it took 6 to meet me up in heaven.

[schadd_]

humaneatingmonkey was

town

and had no potions.

night 2 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-16 15:01:48). reminder that everybody loses their potions and gets new ones on day 4. if everyone asks me to do so, i'll speed up the night

[schadd_]

Flea The Magician has been killed in the night! fae were

town

and had no potions.

[schadd_]

[instrumental]

vote count 3.0

not voting (8):

Gamma Emerald, Venus And Mars, Enchant, KittyTacky, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons, Roden

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to be reborn. day 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-26 18:12:16)

modorator notes

• thread unlocked
  
• replacing venus & mars by request

[schadd_]

JohnnyFarrar replaces venus & mars

[schadd_]

just love me like that

vote count 3.1

Not_Mafia (1):

KittyTacky

not voting (7):

Gamma Emerald, JohnnyFarrar, Enchant, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Roden, Save The Dragons

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to be reborn. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-06-26 18:12:16)

modorator notes

• save the dragons is vla until monday

[schadd_]

prodding not_mafia

[schadd_]

and i crucify myself

vote count 3.2

Not_Mafia (1):

KittyTacky

not voting (7):

Gamma Emerald, JohnnyFarrar, Enchant, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Roden, Save The Dragons

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to be reborn. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-06-26 18:12:16)

modorator notes

• replacing gamma emerald by request

[schadd_]

The toad replaces gamma emerald

[schadd_]

there's always somethin to do

vote count 3.3

Not_Mafia (4):

KittyTacky, Roden, The toad, JohnnyFarrar

Roden (1):

Enchant

not voting (3):

Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons

with 8 alive, it takes 5 to be reborn. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-06-26 18:12:16)

modorator notes

• e

[schadd_]

i've been delivered to the wrong house, who's gonna save me now?

d3 final

Not_Mafia (5):

KittyTacky, Roden, The toad, JohnnyFarrar, Enchant

not voting (3):

Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons

with 8 alive, it took 5 to be reborn.

[schadd_]

Not_Mafia was

town

and had no potions.

night 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-26 04:52:11). reminder that everybody loses their potions and gets new ones after tonight. ifeveryone asks me to do so, i'll speed up the night

[schadd_]

roden died in the night; he was town & had no potions.

the mafia have parity & thus win; they were the toad, enchant & kittytacky. johnnyfarrar, dwlee99 & save the dragons are endgamed.

[schadd_]

dead thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89605
mod thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89507

[schadd_]

mafia https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89509

[schadd_]

it occurs to me to call this setup scumsided even though we're 1-1 with it now. this game it felt honestly not far enough away from mountainous for me to be comfortable (in particular, it needs to be extremely far away from mountainous when its 3v8. lol). scum made very brazen kills each night, i.e. just two hits on exactly who they wanted to kill, which ended up fine in each case but would even be close to game-losing if they get watched. but it feels like that should be bad play, which is a sign that the setup isn't right. honestly the amt of doctors & harmographies seems low, both games i sort of had this realization that their effect is diminished by the fact that mafia are (kind of) free to use their potions whichever of the 3 nights, and you have to align your harmography with the time they use them. if i run this again i'll probably like double the amount of harmographies and maybe increase doctors (don't really feel the need to kick up jailkeepers)

[schadd_]

ohhh yeah that is very not clear from the wording i used