open 852: store bought potions (sold!)

[Nancy Sinatra]

The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Is that you Gamma? Pretty cool looking guy lol

~VD

[Nancy Sinatra]

what about it is scum posting?

+1

Yes, please enlighten us NM.



~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.

~N

This is scum posting and nothing will ever

ever

ever

EVER

convince me otherwise and I will be off-wagon tunneling this slot until the end of the game

What you will do if Nancy die then?

I’m more interested to know why he’d be tunneling us “off-wagon”?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

VOTE: STD

Your sheep on us is suss.

Since when do you vote me without reason?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

what about it is scum posting?

+1

Yes, please enlighten us NM.



~N

Are you ever planning to explain this tunnel? Why are we scum?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's obvious why.

Not to me, do you sr NM? Idk if he’d do that as scum.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's obvious why.

Not to me, do you sr NM? Idk if he’d do that as scum.

~N

Bad tunnel I mean.

[Nancy Sinatra]

VOTE: STD

Your sheep on us is suss.

Since when do you vote me without reason?

~N

since like always, most of my votes are naked

Not a satisfactory answer.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

STD you know as well as I do that it’s the easiest thing in the world for scum to hide behind a naked vote so you not explaining it, isn’t exacting giving me warm fuzzy feelings.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i don't know how to answer then because i naked vote all the time

like saying it's weird that i naked voted you is like saying it's weird that mayonnaise goes on a sandwich

So how am I expected to try to parse you then?

Without a reason, I have no info as to whether you’re wrong town or opportunistic scum.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

you're not really engaging with my point that i naked vote all the time so it's not really AI for me

I want to know why you’re voting us and I’m not reconsidering my vote until I get a reason. I can’t because it gives me 0 info.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i voted you because the popcorn was a bit much

That isn’t ai. And he still hasn’t explained his read. I do or did have a serious rl peanut allergy that would cause me to vaguely resemble a swollen, sunburnt pufferfish. That however doesn’t make me scum.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

it's the tone of the posts

Ugh, this is definitely not helping. What’s scummy about it?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

STD: naked voting isn’t ai for me.

NS: neither is a popcorn emoji for me.

STD: don’t like your tone.

Me:

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

you're not really engaging with my point that i naked vote all the time so it's not really AI for me

i voted you because the popcorn was a bit much

it's the tone of the posts

it's the tone of the posts

Ugh, this is definitely not helping. What’s scummy about it?

~N

STD: naked voting isn’t ai for me.

NS: neither is a popcorn emoji for me.

STD: don’t like your tone.

Me:

~N

the popcorn was showy

My vote was initially mostly omgus but instead of actually giving me even a single valid reason for your vote, you just double down on nai nonsense.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

your omgus is scummy af

omgus is also not ai for mebut you failing to actually explain anything has now made my vote non-omgus because you’re making 0 attempt to sort me, so now it’s an actual sr.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

the popcorn was showy

Is anyone tr this?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

STD was in FFIV where I actually was scum. I would think it would be beyond obvious to him, that I sound completely different in this game.

But instead he just continues to push bad nai reasons for sr me.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

you're trying too hard

And you’re not trying to sort me, at all.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i don't think you're outside your scumrange

i don't know if you're town or not but you're a good vote for now

Says the person who didn’t like my voting him for nai reasons.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

eh

Whatever you are, it’s definitely hypocritical of you to suss me when you even admit that you’re voting me for nai reasons, which in no way makes that a good vote.

In FFIV if you recall, tictac actually voted me for something that was actually scum indicative.

So, your reasoning for your vote on me is lazy at best.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i think my vote is a good vote
i think your vote is scummy at best but i don't really know yet because it's page 2

At best? You just keep regurgitating bad reasoning.

See I actually think NM could be wrongly tunnelled town but you have decent scum equity.

I usually omgus, so that’s also nai for me but I would have unvoted you had you given me at least a single reason to tr you for your vote.

But every single reason you’ve guven so far is nai, so yeah I think it’s definitely possible you could be scum here.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

what about it is scum posting?

+1

Yes, please enlighten us NM.



~N

Are you ever planning to explain this tunnel? Why are we scum?

~N

I don't negotiate with terrorists

I’m asking why you’re tunnelled on us.

[Nancy Sinatra]

what about it is scum posting?

+1

Yes, please enlighten us NM.



~N

Are you ever planning to explain this tunnel? Why are we scum?

~N

I don't negotiate with terrorists

I’m asking why you’re tunnelled on us.

SILENCE SCUM!

Good, because I’m TOWN

.

[Nancy Sinatra]

What makes you think you're gonna make it to the end of the game N_M.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

what about it is scum posting?

+1

Yes, please enlighten us NM.



~N

Are you ever planning to explain this tunnel? Why are we scum?

~N

I don't negotiate with terrorists

I’m asking why you’re tunnelled on us.

And since I am town, I’m never shutting up as long as I’m alive in this game.

[Nancy Sinatra]

lol nancy is actually scummy

*bangs head against door repeatedly*- sigh

[Nancy Sinatra]

lol nancy is actually scummy

Nah, you don't believe that. Nancy feels Dragons is scum and has already outlined why and we have yet to get an answer from N_M, but I'm honestly not expecting one lol. I was serious about him not making it to endgame.

how are you doing there, italiano

What's up dude. You scum?

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

Hydra heads telling us what the other head thinks is honestly my least favourite trope

But you've played with Nancy, no?

[Nancy Sinatra]

Hydra heads telling us what the other head thinks is honestly my least favourite trope

But you've played with Nancy, no?

So you should know the idiosyncracies, should you not?

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

Why does scum me do what I did

I don't know. That's what we wanna try to figure out.

[Nancy Sinatra]

We? Or you? It sounds like Nancy decided

Give us a good reason to think you’re not then. I have no clue what NM’s smoking but you’ve played with me plenty and your entire sr on us is based off of nai things. Now if you weren’t actually in Pokemon and FFIV, I’d probably be a lot less suspicious but you were and I would expect town!you not to be sr without a damned good reason.

And yes, I don’t tr you for sr for things you admit to be nai for me. Sort me or other players. You haven’t given me a single good reason to move my vote so far.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I’m not wedded to any read yet, esp srs but reads on my slot provide the best info this early in the game. I actually have a tl I feel pretty good about so far but I’ll keep that to myself for now.

It’s of course possible you could be town and scum is looking for town to cannibalize each other. I’m not tunnelled on you but I don’t see you really trying to sort me or anyone else yet. If I see either one from you (preferably both, I’d definitely reconsider.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

However I do agree with the latter half of what you said, more than half of the game is pretty much doing jack.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

VOTE: Nancy Sinatra

not admitting that she was giving N_M a way out in her recent postings suggests either lack of self-awareness or deceptive behavior. could be scum! let's gather 'round this slot!

VOTE: HEM

Now you’re totally making up shit.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

especially that olive branch she's giving so n_m can leave her alone

anyone want to spoonfeed the town re: strategy yet? my strategy is not to think about strategy and just sheep whoever else wants to take control. it's day 1. let's get wild.

Why are we letting this obvscum slot dominate so much of the game, other people need to step up their activity

Losing my tl on NM now. His take on me for STD is whatever but I think HEM is really scummy.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

happy with my vote

I hope you’re scum then, because once we flip, you’re very likely following us.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

especially that olive branch she's giving so n_m can leave her alone

anyone want to spoonfeed the town re: strategy yet? my strategy is not to think about strategy and just sheep whoever else wants to take control. it's day 1. let's get wild.

Why are we letting this obvscum slot dominate so much of the game, other people need to step up their activity

Losing my tl on NM now. His take on me for STD is whatever but I think HEM is really scummy.

~N

I’m saying it again, I absolutely will flip town. And I’m actually okay with being flipped first if either/both of you are scum here.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

How is it my fault? You jumped on me for saying I had a rl peanut allergy and haven’t re-evaluated anything since.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

If either both HEM/NM is scum, then STD is probably town. Neither if scum, would have been so quick to push me if STD is a buddy of either.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

VOTE: Nancy Sinatra

not admitting that she was giving N_M a way out in her recent postings suggests either lack of self-awareness or deceptive behavior. could be scum! let's gather 'round this slot!

This post is frankly bizarre and if HEM is scum here, than NM looks bad by association.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

Not a fan of this one either.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

idk man nancy's reaction to n_m feels off

Compared to what?

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

The three of you voting for us are probably not ALL scum but at least one if you are.

Here’s the thing: the three of you know Nancy and I’m sure have played way more games with her than I have, so you know what gets her going and I don’t the like the fact that both STD and HEM have jumped on to whatever it is N_M is doing, especially given how N_M is a “Day 1 policy lynch” slot and I am always seemingly the one coming to bat for him. It reeks and I don’t like it.

If I had to guess scum is between the two who jumped on us. I don’t know yet this is scum driven , meaning N_M is scum and one of his partners jumped on or scum being opportunistic by jumping onto wrong town N_M.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

idk man nancy's reaction to n_m feels off

Compared to what?

~Italiano

Compared to town

Town Nancy? So town Nancy NEVER reacts this way. This is completely AI?

[Nancy Sinatra]

VOTE: Nancy Sinatra

not admitting that

she was giving N_M a way out in her recent postings

suggests either lack of self-awareness or deceptive behavior. could be scum! let's gather 'round this slot!

Where?

[Nancy Sinatra]

And I’m actually okay with being flipped first if either/both of you are scum here.

~N

Nah. I’m not because this is the weakest push ever.

And where the heck is everybody?

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

idk man nancy's reaction to n_m feels off

Compared to what?

~Italiano

Compared to town

Town Nancy? So town Nancy NEVER reacts this way. This is completely AI?

Nope

Yeah, you’re lying.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

This is all irrelevant as Nancy scumclaimed in her first post of the game

That’s exactly what scum in MU Witchhunt game told me, except in that game scum accused me of manipulative AtEing.

When Gamma asked you what was scummy about my opening post, you never answered, yet you continue to push this as a scumclaim. But you can’t even explain why it was scummy.


How are you town here? You’re not even considering the possibility that you could be wrong but then you have the audacity to blame me in advance for my miselim. That is hands down the scummiest part of it.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.

~N

This is the post NM keeps deathtunneling me for.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

How is it my fault? You jumped on me for saying I had a rl peanut allergy and haven’t re-evaluated anything since.

~N

potion of Drink More Potions: at night, you may drink this potion; it will enable you to drink up to two more potions.

ingredients:

penit oil

, grey witherments, slick rot, plastoce, beargstran molecule, baseball, greed drum

I used to break out in hives from this, so starting to think NM could possibly scum here, because this is possibly the most idiotic thing, I’ve ever been pushed for in any game ever.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

If either both HEM/NM is scum, then STD is probably town. Neither if scum, would have been so quick to push me if STD is a buddy of either.

~N

i dont think this is natural town logic because i dont know if i would clear STD here for the reason being given. i think it's designed exclusively to hand out an olive branch to std. designed to divide the opposition and not allow them to create a block.

Now I’m handling out olive branches to STD? Wtf happened to NM?

I think one or both you/NM are scum and STD doesn’t look aligned with either of you.

Simple logic=scummy to HEM.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

See I actually think NM could be wrongly tunnelled town but you have decent scum equity.

example of olive branch

Which one am I handling out “olive branches” to? NM or STD? You can’t even keep your narrative consistent.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

nancy is catching heat there and but have been publicly pursuing n_m until std comes to attack. i didn't see any reason for nancy to relent. it seemed like the motive was suppressing n_m's fire so she doesn't have to fight two fronts. ultimately, it's not scummy on its own but when nancy denies that she does it implies guilt in an otherwise not-a-big-deal situation and the denial is evidence of deception. notice that her denial of my observation was the basis of her scumread on me, as i have been making shit up apparently.

I gave my genuine read on the situation. I’m not very familiar with NM’s scumgame and I haven’t seen him do that before as scum but he also doesn’t sr someone for a comment that isn’t even remotely scummy and he is ignoring all evidence that his read on me is wrong.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Nancy does thing ---> HEM points out that Nancy does thing --> Nancy asks where she did thing --> HEM shows where Nancy did thing --> Nancy calls it making shit up --> I hammer Nancy and she flips scum

I will flip town Einstein.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

VOTE: Nancy
Interestingly enough I'm sheeping NM here

Think Nancy has been really scummy. Her content is almost all reactive in a negative way.

Dwlee could be scum. They know this is nai for me.

My reactions to being being voted aren’t ai and I would expect Dwlee to know that.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

Everyone, remember this post.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Think Nancy has been really scummy. Her content is almost all reactive in a negative way.

Find any game where I’m not jester where this doesn’t hold true.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I’m reactive because I’m getting fucking deathtunnelled.

There doesn’t exist a game anywhere where I have ever reacted well to that.

There is likely at least 2 scum likely on my wagon.

Current PoE is HEM/NM/Dwlee

After I’m dead, remember this post. No way are all 3 town, I bet the game on that

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

nancy is catching heat there and but have been publicly pursuing n_m until std comes to attack. i didn't see any reason for nancy to relent. it seemed like the motive was suppressing n_m's fire so she doesn't have to fight two fronts. ultimately, it's not scummy on its own but when nancy denies that she does it implies guilt in an otherwise not-a-big-deal situation and the denial is evidence of deception. notice that her denial of my observation was the basis of her scumread on me, as i have been making shit up apparently.

Where did I vote NM? I wasn’t even considering him as possible scum before he alternated between calling you scum and joining with you against me.

My vote is on you because you can’t keep your narrative straight, at least NM is consistently bad but you keep pushing the goalposts.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

@mod, am I allowed to link a game from MU?

If not check witchhunt. Scum pushed me in that game for “manipulative AtEing”.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Current tls are Flea, Gamma, Kitty.

Flea is pretty decent at reading me, Fae caught me as scum in that Koala game. Gamma seems to be genunely sorting questions but it is not over the top - which NM has yet to respond to.

Kitty sounds very different here than in that game where they were scum. Here they’re actually doing things.

If anyone doubts this is 100% my towngame, please read some of my scumgames. I think the difference will be glaringly obvious.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

im gonna

low-effort

and just follow my gut on this one. sorry if that disappoints people. i think an extended "cerebral" day 1 creates diminishing returns for town and think I'll see more success just going for what intuitively feels off.

Heard that before. Is it gonna be another self-imposed post limit?

See I actually think NM could be wrongly tunnelled town but you have decent scum equity.

example of olive branch

This could be true, but I think only scum picks up on what N_M is pushing.

If either both HEM/NM is scum, then STD is probably town. Neither if scum, would have been so quick to push me if STD is a buddy of either.

~N

i dont think this is natural town logic because i dont know if i would clear STD here for the reason being given. i think it's designed exclusively to hand out an olive branch to std.

designed to divide the opposition and not allow them to create a block.

This is perfectly logical for town. I personally believe Dragons is town and the two of you are scum. I believe there’s gonna be some irony in the bolded come game end.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

Think Nancy has been really scummy. Her content is almost all reactive in a negative way.

VOTE: Nancy
Interestingly enough I'm sheeping NM here

And this is terrible. I ask you the same questions I asked N_M. And have you ever sheeped N_M? Especially for something so lazy and ridiculous.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Current tls are Flea, Gamma, Kitty.

Flea is pretty decent at reading me, Fae caught me as scum in that Koala game. Gamma seems to be genunely sorting questions but it is not over the top - which NM has yet to respond to.

Kitty sounds very different here than in that game where they were scum. Here they’re actually doing things.

If anyone doubts this is 100% my towngame, please read some of my scumgames. I think the difference will be glaringly obvious.

~N

+1

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

This post is really eating at me. This sounds like NM knows I will flip town and is already setting it up to blame me for my miselim.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Nancy does thing ---> HEM points out that Nancy does thing --> Nancy asks where she did thing --> HEM shows where Nancy did thing --> Nancy calls it making shit up --> I hammer Nancy and she flips scum

No townie ever should be this certain of their read and NM is basing this on a 100% nai post.

[Nancy Sinatra]

why do you townread nancy, flea

Nancy is bringing the fight and IVD seems to be amused at the happenings. This is town Nancy. Come EoD I'll probably lock that read for the game.

+1

If I live long enough, you won’t be the only one seeing it.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

This is all irrelevant as Nancy scumclaimed in her first post of the game

That’s exactly what scum in MU Witchhunt game told me, except in that game scum accused me of manipulative AtEing.

I don’t care

So why’d you comment?

~IVD

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

This post is really eating at me. This sounds like NM knows I will flip town and is already setting it up to blame me for my miselim.

~N

Eat my shorts scumbutt

Are you trying to provoke me into getting banned or something?

You having the gaul to actually blame me for my miselim is beyond disgusting.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

There is likely at least 2 scum likely on my wagon.

You had one eye in the mirror as you watched yourself go by

Send in the clowns, don’t bother they’re here.

[Nancy Sinatra]

This is all irrelevant as Nancy scumclaimed in her first post of the game

That’s exactly what scum in MU Witchhunt game told me, except in that game scum accused me of manipulative AtEing.

I don’t care

So why’d you comment?

~IVD

He knows I’m easy to rile up, so he spends nearly all of his posts trying to provoke me. That is beyond obvious.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Don't feed trolls...

You’re right. <3

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I think it's been a while since we have played together Nancy but I do not remember town!you acting like this

@Flea: I (at least used to) have a reactive playstyle too, so it isn't that. It's how Nancy is being reactive.

What game ever have you ever seen me deathtunnelled like that - especially on such a thoroughly nonsensical basis?

And no, reactions to me being either sr/voted are never ai for me. As for my responses to HEM, I still don’t understand the whole olive branch thing. I don’t see how my giving my honest analysis and thoughts on the game constitute handing out “olive branches”.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Nancy does thing ---> HEM points out that Nancy does thing --> Nancy asks where she did thing --> HEM shows where Nancy did thing --> Nancy calls it making shit up --> I hammer Nancy and she flips scum

No townie ever should be this certain of their read and NM is basing this on a 100% nai post.

Sadly this is 100% NAI for N_M.

I’m actually surprised by this.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

This post is really eating at me. This sounds like NM knows I will flip town and is already setting it up to blame me for my miselim.

~N

Eat my shorts scumbutt

Are you trying to provoke me into getting banned or something?

You having the gaul to actually blame me for my miselim is beyond disgusting.

~N

Nancy straight up don't take the bait.
It ain't worth it, and N_M just trolls, tunnels and winds up - literally the worst kind of player for you specifically to have in a game.

He's literally Deedee from Dexters lab. Hits every damned button and to hell with the consequences.

<3

[Nancy Sinatra]

Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.

No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.

~N

*Caught scum noises intensify*

And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?

I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.

~N

If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on you

This post is really eating at me. This sounds like NM knows I will flip town and is already setting it up to blame me for my miselim.

~N

Eat my shorts scumbutt

Are you trying to provoke me into getting banned or something?

You having the gaul to actually blame me for my miselim is beyond disgusting.

~N

Calm down. I was being tongue in cheek. What I’m saying is, you’re continued response is pretty scummy and I’m not gonna beat myself up if you do flip town

As I said to Dwlee, none of that is ever ai for me and I personally would because I hate to miselim. And it’s not IF I will flip town, because I will. Absolutely nothing I’ve done so far in this game is even remotely scum indicative for me, if that even matters to to you.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

How is it serious
I don’t think you’re calling a peanut allergy scummy, so what is it?

Of course I’m not. And I think anyone suggesting so is being obtuse at best and disingenuous at worst

How do you figure? You still have never even explained your reasoning.

I commented on one of the mods’s posts because it happened to be an actual fact for me irl and God only knows why you pushed the narrative that this was some kind of scumclaim. which is not only false but still makes absolutely no sense to me.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

And I am still the most active player this game

Last time I checked we had the highest post count.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

not sure i like that i disappeared from nancy's world when i unvoted them

???

I don’t understand this at all. i switched my vote on you first.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Of course I’m not. And I think anyone suggesting so is being obtuse at best and disingenuous at worst

that doesn't answer the question

+1

Yes, that’s what’s concerning me. If he truly believes what he said, why won’t he explain it?

If he did, I might then be able to actually tell whether or not it’s scum trying to drive a miselim on me or town making a terrible read, so he absolutely needs to explain it.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

And I am still the most active player this game

Last time I checked we had the highest post count.

~N

You're a hydra

Most of your posts have been quoting Carly Simon lyrics but whatever.

[Nancy Sinatra]

[epic piano]

vote count 1.3

Not_Mafia (5):

Roden, Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons, Dwlee99, Flea The Magician

humaneatingmonkey (2):

Nancy Sinatra, Enchant

Nancy Sinatra (1):

humaneatingmonkey

Flea The Magician (1):

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons (1):

KittyTacky

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• @mod, am I allowed to link a game from MU?

  yea

Poor Nancy. I think she’s fine atm.

#TeamNancy!

I disagree. I've seen my fair share of players using those dirty tactics and they all stop playing that way or die! No sympathy here.
If you are having real life issues that is affecting you, there are other boards for it where you can vent off and get feedback, keep this game clean please, i also have problems and i am not here trying to influence the game with my shit.

Uh-huh... Well, I don't really care about that part or being self-righteous here or whatever. I'm just buying her overreaction to one person's "incorrect" read when she isn't even in immediate danger. Comes across as lolvillage to me. Then again, I'm not familiar with this person. Do I think she needs to not focus so much on what Koba thinks? Yes, somewhat.

Why overreact to one player's pressure unless she knows they are town and with a loud voice?
If she is town why appeal emotionally to them if she also thinks koba is town? If she considers Koba is tunneled for the wrong reasons and there is no convincing him otherwise why not just ignore them and help us find scum by interacting with other slots in a level headed manner? It's just one player but she is acting like koba has the vote of the majority.

I'll tell you why. Because she is scum feeling the pressure of a town leader that knows her meta and caught her for “wrong reasons”. Nancy does not townread Koba, Nancy knows Koba is town and is freaking out so the only way she thought that could get Koba backing off of her is to AtE them and when i called her out for it she accuses me of personally attacking her when it's completely the opposite of what i wanted to do.

VOTE: Nancy Drew 39

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5764617

I would link Guillo’s iso from that game but I don’t think that works on MS, unfortunately.

[Nancy Sinatra]

And I am still the most active player this game

Last time I checked we had the highest post count.

~N

You're a hydra

Most of your posts have been quoting Carly Simon lyrics but whatever.

I'm making a point though

Which is? The song is “You’re So Vain” and most of your posts are about me.

[Nancy Sinatra]

UNVOTE:

Sinatra vs NM is TvT. Can I get the two of you to back off for a moment and reset please?

What are your reads on HEM, Dwlee, STD?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Nancy, you may have accidentally voted for yourself there.

VOTE: HEM

I’m pretty sure that’s my current vote?

[Nancy Sinatra]

And I am still the most active player this game

Last time I checked we had the highest post count.

~N

You're a hydra

Most of your posts have been quoting Carly Simon lyrics but whatever.

I'm making a point though

Which is? The song is “You’re So Vain” and most of your posts are about me.

You're soooooo vaaaaaiiiiiinnn, you probably think this game is about you

No, just your posts.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

[epic piano]

vote count 1.3

Not_Mafia (5):

Roden, Not_Mafia, Save The Dragons, Dwlee99, Flea The Magician

humaneatingmonkey (2):

Nancy Sinatra, Enchant

Nancy Sinatra (1):

humaneatingmonkey

Flea The Magician (1):

Gamma Emerald

Save The Dragons (1):

KittyTacky

not voting (1):

Facebones

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to meet me up in heaven. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-07 14:57:40)

modorator notes

• @mod, am I allowed to link a game from MU?

  yea

Poor Nancy. I think she’s fine atm.

#TeamNancy!

I disagree. I've seen my fair share of players using those dirty tactics and they all stop playing that way or die! No sympathy here.
If you are having real life issues that is affecting you, there are other boards for it where you can vent off and get feedback, keep this game clean please, i also have problems and i am not here trying to influence the game with my shit.

Uh-huh... Well, I don't really care about that part or being self-righteous here or whatever. I'm just buying her overreaction to one person's "incorrect" read when she isn't even in immediate danger. Comes across as lolvillage to me. Then again, I'm not familiar with this person. Do I think she needs to not focus so much on what Koba thinks? Yes, somewhat.

Why overreact to one player's pressure unless she knows they are town and with a loud voice?
If she is town why appeal emotionally to them if she also thinks koba is town? If she considers Koba is tunneled for the wrong reasons and there is no convincing him otherwise why not just ignore them and help us find scum by interacting with other slots in a level headed manner? It's just one player but she is acting like koba has the vote of the majority.

I'll tell you why. Because she is scum feeling the pressure of a town leader that knows her meta and caught her for “wrong reasons”. Nancy does not townread Koba, Nancy knows Koba is town and is freaking out so the only way she thought that could get Koba backing off of her is to AtE them and when i called her out for it she accuses me of personally attacking her when it's completely the opposite of what i wanted to do.

VOTE: Nancy Drew 39

~N

I didn’t self vote Roden. That’s Guillo’s vote on me from an MU game.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Nancy, you may have accidentally voted for yourself there.

VOTE: HEM

I’m pretty sure that’s my current vote?

Again

VOTE: HEM

I think I’m getting OCD now.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Everyone quick flashwagon Nancy, even if you townread them it will be hilarious

Yeah, miselims are always hysterical.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Everyone quick flashwagon Nancy, even if you townread them it will be hilarious

Yeah, miselims are always hysterical.

They often are, but you're scum

I’m going to not waste my time with this bs.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Nancy, you may have accidentally voted for yourself there.

VOTE: HEM

I’m pretty sure that’s my current vote?

Again

VOTE: HEM

I think I’m getting OCD now.

@Roden, this was my most recent post wrt this.

@mod, this is my current vote.

[Nancy Sinatra]

wat is scum going for a quickelim here?

Who is this referring to?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

@NM

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5764617

I would link Guillo’s iso from that game but I don’t think that works on MS, unfortunately.

This is the link, you can check it out yourself if you’re actually not just trolling me. If my post is actually impacting the VC, I’m not going to reformat it.

@mod, Dwlee is voting us not nm

[Nancy Sinatra]

Why overreact to one player's pressure unless she knows they are town and with a loud voice?
If she is town why appeal emotionally to them if she also thinks koba is town? If she considers Koba is tunneled for the wrong reasons and there is no convincing him otherwise why not just ignore them and help us find scum by interacting with other slots in a level headed manner? It's just one player but she is acting like koba has the vote of the majority.

I'll tell you why. Because she is scum feeling the pressure of a town leader that knows her meta and caught her for “wrong reasons”. Nancy does not townread Koba, Nancy knows Koba is town and is freaking out so the only way she thought that could get Koba backing off of her is to AtE them and when i called her out for it she accuses me of personally attacking her when it's completely the opposite of what i wanted to do.

It’s probably safe if I leave out the vote. Both Guillo and Koba were scum in that fwiw.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I requoted it in the very next post. Let’s be honest here NM, you have 0 interest in trying to correctly sort me and are only engaging me to attempt to rile me up.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

wat is scum going for a quickelim here?

Who is this referring to?

~N

anything goes to E-1 this early, pretty safe to say that's scum dashing for an opportune quickelim. so im just gonna give away a free townread towards n_m here. also i like the strength of his push.

Gullo called me “caught scum” in that game I posted, so unless that is somehow town indicative for NM, it means nothing and I still think one or both of you could be scum here.

Why Roden is convinced it’s TvT is beyond me.

Also, if you think scum is pushing NM, then why are you still voting me?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I think it's been a while since we have played together Nancy but I do not remember town!you acting like this

@Flea: I (at least used to) have a reactive playstyle too, so it isn't that. It's how Nancy is being reactive.

What game ever have you ever seen me deathtunnelled like that - especially on such a thoroughly nonsensical basis?

And no, reactions to me being either sr/voted are never ai for me. As for my responses to HEM, I still don’t understand the whole olive branch thing. I don’t see how my giving my honest analysis and thoughts on the game constitute handing out “olive branches”.

~N

This has nothing to do with what I posted

You said you se my reactions - if not to literally being deathtunelled - then, Idk what else you could. possibly be referring to?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

wat is scum going for a quickelim here?

Who is this referring to?

~N

anything goes to E-1 this early, pretty safe to say that's scum dashing for an opportune quickelim. so im just gonna give away a free townread towards n_m here. also i like the strength of his push.

Y'all post too much, Fun and Games is scum

Just torpedoed that read. F & G was town in that game and NM was scum.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

wat is scum going for a quickelim here?

Who is this referring to?

~N

anything goes to E-1 this early, pretty safe to say that's scum dashing for an opportune quickelim. so im just gonna give away a free townread towards n_m here. also i like the strength of his push.

Y'all post too much, Fun and Games is scum

Just torpedoed that read. F & G was town in that game and NM was scum.

~N

Not saying that means NM has to be scum here but this reasoning HEM gave for tr NM, has been proven invalid.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Think Nancy has been really scummy. Her content is almost all reactive in a negative way.

I think it's been a while since we have played together Nancy but I do not remember town!you acting like this

@Flea: I (at least used to) have a reactive playstyle too, so it isn't that. It's how Nancy is being reactive.

I think it's been a while since we have played together Nancy but I do not remember town!you acting like this

@Flea: I (at least used to) have a reactive playstyle too, so it isn't that. It's how Nancy is being reactive.

What game ever have you ever seen me deathtunnelled like that - especially on such a thoroughly nonsensical basis?

And no, reactions to me being either sr/voted are never ai for me. As for my responses to HEM, I still don’t understand the whole olive branch thing. I don’t see how my giving my honest analysis and thoughts on the game constitute handing out “olive branches”.

~N

This has nothing to do with what I posted

Are you planning to elaborate on HOW you think I’m “being reactive in a negative way”?

I already pointed out that I’m literally being dearhtunelled in this game for reasons that still make absolutely no sense to me and since no game exists anywhere where that has occurred, I think your take and sheep on my slot is highly suss.

But I want to give you a chance to elaborate on that further.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

wat is scum going for a quickelim here?

Who is this referring to?

~N

anything goes to E-1 this early, pretty safe to say that's scum dashing for an opportune quickelim. so im just gonna give away a free townread towards n_m here. also i like the strength of his push.

Gullo called me “caught scum” in that game I posted, so unless that is somehow town indicative for NM, it means nothing and I still think one or both of you could be scum here.

Why Roden is convinced it’s TvT is beyond me.

Also, if you think scum is pushing NM, then why are you still voting me?

~N

I think you're town because of how you're reacting. I think you would just be more tactical as scum here, brush off the scum read on you and probably employ some AtE.

NM is probably town just because of his early aggression. I know that it isn't necessarily a town tell for him, but his tunnel on you feels genuine. I think he's just wrong though.

Alternatively, it's possible that you two are SvS and it's just theatre, but I don't really see the point of it. Game state feels a bit too apathetic for that to be necessary imo.

Possibly but his tunnel on town!F&G also seemed pretty genuine but his take is bad and I think slots steeping him look worse. It’s also possible I’m wrong and scum is just offwagon or doing nothing. Idk. \_0_/

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's not about merit,

it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons

. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad

How are you sure it’s a town mindmeld
The progression of it doesn’t feel like what I’d expect out of that sort of thing at all, it was a one-by-one process where one person expressed that feeling and then another

VOTE: Dwlee

I’m more convinced than ever that my 3 tls are now trs.

This whole cftwr exactly the same bullshit that scum!Guillo used to push me. Out of the slots eager for my town blood, HEM probably looks the best now. STD could well be scum but he didn’t jump on Flea. I also still think NM could be scum but I think this post of Dwlee sounds informed.

Also in that game where scum!NM deathtunnelled town!F&G, Dwlee was NM’s replacement and he continued to push that slot for comparably stupid reasons.

Rn, I think possibly two of Dwlee/STD/NM? HEM not out of suspicion yet but I bet the game on at least one scum here.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Why overreact to one player's pressure unless she knows they are town and with a loud voice?
If she is town why appeal emotionally to them if she also thinks koba is town? If she considers Koba is tunneled for the wrong reasons and there is no convincing him otherwise why not just ignore them and help us find scum by interacting with other slots in a level headed manner? It's just one player but she is acting like koba has the vote of the majority.

I'll tell you why.

Because she is scum feeling the pressure of a town leader that knows her meta and caught her for “wrong reasons”.

Nancy does not townread Koba, Nancy knows Koba is town and is freaking out so the only way she thought that could get Koba backing off of her is to AtE them and when i called her out for it she accuses me of personally attacking her when it's completely the opposite of what i wanted to do.

It’s probably safe if I leave out the vote. Both Guillo and Koba were scum in that fwiw.

boom!

[Nancy Sinatra]

How many of you (HEM, STD, Dw) have played with Nancy as both alignments? I feel like you all have played more games with her than I have so I very much feel this should have never gotten to this level. Like when has N_M been taken serious. In all the games I’ve played with him he’s the usual trolly policy elim guy that everyone wants to kill, no one takes serious, and I defend.

The ease of traction his foolish and utterly wrong push has gotten has me extremely suspicious. I don’t think town picks up on what N_M “caught”.

I think HEM is the scum within the group. STD is probably town as I told Nancy. I have some suspicions of others that I’m gonna keep close to me for now, but just know Nancy and I agree on our townleans.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

Also Dwelee shade on Gamma for calling out blatant horseshit annoys me.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

How many of you (HEM, STD, Dw) have played with Nancy as both alignments? I feel like you all have played more games with her than I have so I very much feel this should have never gotten to this level. Like when has N_M been taken serious. In all the games I’ve played with him he’s the usual trolly policy elim guy that everyone wants to kill, no one takes serious, and I defend.

The ease of traction his foolish and utterly wrong push has gotten has me extremely suspicious. I don’t think town picks up on what N_M “caught”.

I think HEM is the scum within the group. STD is probably town as I told Nancy. I have some suspicions of others that I’m gonna keep close to me for now, but just know Nancy and I agree on our townleans.

~Italiano

Really? You think I should switch my vote back to him? Out of all the slots pushing me, he doesn’t really have any meta on me, which is why Dwlee looks the worst here. Dwelee has seen my scumgame the most, followed by STD and NM the least. HEM has never seen it. Gamma and Flea both have and it weirds me out why their reads on me are being ignored.

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's not really about NM

I've played with her both alignments I usually...usually tr her pretty hard if she's town

You're also a little slimy italiano

Then if you’re actually town here - big if - your scumdar needs a major overhaul.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's not really about NM

I've played with her both alignments

I usually...usually tr her pretty hard if she's town

You're also a little slimy italiano

Since I am town, what does this say about you?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

You're right I'm both scum and suck

I’m steering clear of saying anything that could possibly put me at risk of another pb.

[Nancy Sinatra]

You're right I'm both scum and suck

I’m steering clear of saying anything that could possibly put me at risk of another pb.

I will say that I never called your scumgame bad.

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's not really about NM

I've played with her both alignments I usually...usually tr her pretty hard if she's town

You're also a little slimy italiano

Then if you’re actually town here - big if - your scumdar needs a major overhaul.

~N

You're right I'm both scum and suck

What I will ask is for you not to misrep my posting. Ttvmia.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Sorry that was intended to be more tongue in cheek than it came out

Fine but I almost lost it on NM for trying to blame me for my own miselim and

there’s people on this site watching my posting with a microscope. I don’t want to get into any trouble here but I learned that pissing off the wrong people has serious consequences.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Sorry that was intended to be more tongue in cheek than it came out

Fine but I almost lost it on NM for trying to blame me for my own miselim and

Spoiler:

there’s people on this site watching my posting with a microscope. I don’t want to get into any trouble here but I learned that pissing off the wrong people has serious consequences.

Don’t want to get wrongly accused of encryption.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I also meant suck as town

But yeah I probably could just hold my tongue next time

Please do, I’ve been seriously stressing about this.

[Nancy Sinatra]

She is though. She's literally being tunnelled for an RVS post on her allergies.

But the follow-up to that is what is scummy. And it isn't like NM is even applying that much pressure to call it a tunnel when he is kinda just saying Nancy is scum occasionally

Helio, are we even reading the same game here?

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad

How are you sure it’s a town mindmeld
The progression of it doesn’t feel like what I’d expect out of that sort of thing at all, it was a one-by-one process where one person expressed that feeling and then another

Well I know I'm not scum and the chance STD and HEM are both scum is pretty low

I know I’m not but that clearly isn’t resonating with any of the slots shitpushing me.

[Nancy Sinatra]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13385556]post 404[/url], Dwlee99"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13385465]post 384[/url], Nancy Sinatra"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13385379]post 383[/url], Gamma Emerald"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13385333]post 375[/url], Dwlee99"]It's not about merit, [b]it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons[/b]. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad[/quote]
How are you sure it’s a town mindmeld
The progression of it doesn’t feel like what I’d expect out of that sort of thing at all, it was a one-by-one process where one person expressed that feeling and then another[/quote]

[vote]Dwlee[/vote]

I’m more convinced than ever that my 3 tls are now trs.

This whole cftwr exactly the same bullshit that scum!Guillo used to push me. Out of the slots eager for my town blood, HEM probably looks the best now. STD could well be scum but he didn’t jump on Flea. I also still think NM could be scum but I think this post of Dwlee sounds informed.

Also in that game where scum!NM deathtunnelled town!F&G, Dwlee was NM’s replacement and he continued to push that slot for comparably stupid reasons.

Rn, I think possibly two of Dwlee/STD/NM? HEM not out of suspicion yet but I bet the game on at least one scum here.

~N[/quote]
What game are you referring to? And yea, I'm informed of my alignment. Like you're calling me scum because I offered evidence my mindset was a townie one accusing me of TMI of me town?[/quote]

I already linked it. Scum!Guillo used that crap to drive a miselim on me in MU Witchhunt. My reactions to being pushed are never ai, so you pushing this narrative as remotely valid strongly triggers my scumdar.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Why overreact to one player's pressure unless she knows they are town and with a loud voice?
If she is town why appeal emotionally to them if she also thinks koba is town? If she considers Koba is tunneled for the wrong reasons and there is no convincing him otherwise why not just ignore them and help us find scum by interacting with other slots in a level headed manner? It's just one player but she is acting like koba has the vote of the majority.

I'll tell you why.

Because she is scum feeling the pressure of a town leader that knows her meta and caught her for “wrong reasons”.

Nancy does not townread Koba, Nancy knows Koba is town and is freaking out so the only way she thought that could get Koba backing off of her is to AtE them and when i called her out for it she accuses me of personally attacking her when it's completely the opposite of what i wanted to do.

It’s probably safe if I leave out the vote. Both Guillo and Koba were scum in that fwiw.

boom!

This quote is from MU Witchunt.

[Nancy Sinatra]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5764617

I would link Guillo’s iso from that game but I don’t think that works on MS, unfortunately.

Link to MU Witchhunt

[Nancy Sinatra]

wat is scum going for a quickelim here?

Who is this referring to?

~N

anything goes to E-1 this early, pretty safe to say that's scum dashing for an opportune quickelim. so im just gonna give away a free townread towards n_m here. also i like the strength of his push.

Y'all post too much, Fun and Games is scum

Just torpedoed that read. F & G was town in that game and NM was scum.

~N

Or was it this game, Dwelee?

Yeah, you replaced scum!NM and had a bs reason for pushing F & G in that.

[Nancy Sinatra]

No, no don't switch the vote back. Keep it as it is.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

Also in that game where scum!NM deathtunnelled town!F&G, Dwlee was NM’s replacement and he continued to push that slot for comparably stupid reasons.

The two aren't really comparable, that was one post, there was no consistent push there. It feels like you've just reached for one random meta point to discredit me because "lol silly cow man" isn't working.

There’s one way to settle this. Bring up your ISO and if I’m wrong, fine.

What is true is that you have been deathtunnelling me for an nai rvs post like Flea said and since I know this is wrong, I find it extremely unlikely that you or everyone sheeping that wrong read is town.

If you’re not actually scum here, you’re scumsiding and if we lose this game - if you’re actually town here - that will be on you. Ngl, I realiy hope you actually are scum here and not town playing this bad.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

She is though. She's literally being tunnelled for an RVS post on her allergies.

A) She isn't, it's also her subsequent reaction and posting

B) So? RVS is a prime time to catch scum. I've done it before in RVS, someone's first post no less.

Well, if you’re town, not this time Sherlock.

My reaction is 100% due to your deathtunneling me and reactions to being sr are NEVER ai for me. In my very first game on here, I flipped out over 2 rvs joke votes on me and nearly got myself miselimmed in the span of under 2 hours.

Metadive me and you will know this is true. People who have extensive meta on me are literally screaming this and being ignored and in my experience with a lot of people, I’ve found this whole bad reaction to being scumread to be proven to be proven baseless in the vast majority of games I’ve played on here.

Some players react chill irrespective of alignment, others always react badly. Some players are chill when scum and go postal at you as town. And yes, a minority actually fit this paradigm.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

nai rvs post

I don't think it's nai though that's the point.

What is the point then?

[Nancy Sinatra]

nancy, you're spending less time finding scum and more time trying to prove us wrong. i still dont know why std and dwlee is scum, and if you think im the least sus, then im your audience.

I already explained this, read my posts.

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

[Nancy Sinatra]

nancy, you're spending less time finding scum and more time trying to prove us wrong. i still dont know why std and dwlee is scum, and if you think im the least sus, then im your audience.

I already explained this, read my posts.

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

And I could make that same criticism to everyone pushing me. Why aren’t YOU looking for scum - whomever is actually town not looking for a ridiculous miselim - that is.

Because I am fucking NOT scum here.

[Nancy Sinatra]

How many of you (HEM, STD, Dw) have played with Nancy as both alignments? I feel like you all have played more games with her than I have so I very much feel this should have never gotten to this level. Like when has N_M been taken serious. In all the games I’ve played with him he’s the usual trolly policy elim guy that everyone wants to kill, no one takes serious, and I defend.

I have I think but forget, and NM is actually good at the game and your discredit here is shit.

If he’s town here, he dropped the ball this time.

[Nancy Sinatra]

nai rvs post

I don't think it's nai though that's the point.

What is the point then?

Your mum

is 6 feet under.

[Nancy Sinatra]

And it’s day freaking 1: give me time.

That's no excuse, I've already caught scum

Since I’m town, that isn’t possible.

[Nancy Sinatra]

secretary monkey here

what we know is nancy is too intense, almost overreacting to pushes against her especially in the early game. the 4 of us view it as scum-motivated, as scum trying to survive being caught. roden, flea, gamma see it as not really that compelling a reason.

- dwlee thinks nancy is caught for the wrong reasons, and that the wagon is possibly town-motivated.
- i hold this opinion because i perceived her to be performative. i mindmeld with both dwlee and std when they point out that nancy's emotions are from being mad that she's caught for the wrong reasons.
- std vibes with this, but his confidence is faltering.
- flea even views it as town-motivated, as fae doesn't believe nancy acts like this as scum. fae believes the push is scum-motivated.
- roden thinks nm and sympathizes with nancy and thinks he'll react this way too. he also thinks nancy won't react like this as scum.
- gamma thinks nancy has her townmindset on because of a read she had made, and thinks the push is scum-motivated. (citation needed, gamma)

is this a good summary of events?

Anyone truly interested in the truth will easily find what I’ve been saying to be true, if they metadived me. I am only least suspicious of you because you have no meta on me, so that makes your read on me the least bad because if you’e town here, you wouldn’t understand why the pushes on me are so bad.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i should note that both std and i was about to leave the nancy hypetrain for more productive endeavors before dwlee dropped his mixtape and changed the industry

And that’s why I’m voting him.

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I’m town here and my reactions to being sr aren’t ai but yeah, I don’t play this way as scum which is why both Gamma and Flea - who have seen me as both alignments are defending me so hard.

And why Dwelee doubling and tripling down on his reasoning isn’t sitting well with me at all. Just read my games - both scum and town.

It’s glaringly obvious at this point.

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I’m town here and my reactions to being sr aren’t ai but yeah, I don’t play this way as scum which is why both Gamma and Flea - who have seen me as both alignments are defending me so hard.

And why Dwelee doubling and tripling down on his reasoning isn’t sitting well with me at all. Just read my games - both scum and town.

It’s glaringly obvious at this point.

Shit.

THEY

[Nancy Sinatra]

Sorry Dwlee.

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.

STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?

And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?

And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

how would you have handled the situation as scum? sorry for asking hypotheticals, i know they barely give any useful information to work with. but im thinking you could react like this despite your meta because you were attacked so early in the game.

I react badly as any alignment except jester but I have been trying to be less reactive in general but it’s actually easier to do that as scum because I hate getting miselmmed more than anything.

So, I’m not going to ever say I would ever be chill for being deathtunnelled for an nai post but have frequently been accused of scumslipping but only as town. Like I’m dyslexic and mix up words frequently, so that’s happened to me more than a few times.

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.

STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?

And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?

And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?

~N

I can't answer that sorry, I immediately forget every game I play in the instant it ends

Well STD should know this because he recently played with my alt as town and replaced into that same alt as scum in different gamr.

Please don’t out my alt or the games if possible. Just answer.

[Nancy Sinatra]

It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad

That doesn't seem to be the basis of the push though, from what I understand that's only your reason for pushing Nancy. NM started the wagon seemingly to just get a reaction out of her. STD didn't like the OMGUS and popcorn. HEM didn't like the olive branch and only later said he mind melded with you, but never made any mention of "caught for the wrong reason" until you brought it up.

That's why I'm saying that it's odd to accuse her of playing different than what you expect while also scum reading her. Either she's scum telling in four different ways and is an abysmal scum player, or she's just a flailing townie reacting strongly to pressure from four different players who are attacking her.

+1

This, my scumgame is pretty decent and in 2 games where I was scum and Dwlee town, he tr me.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I have I think but forget, and NM is actually good at the game and your discredit here is shit.

Oh please, give me a break. Why is everyone acting so dense? I'm giving you my experience with N_M. I know he can be good at the game when he is invested.

~Italiano

[Nancy Sinatra]

In an case, I know how you can react as town, it's not about that for me

What is it about then?

[Nancy Sinatra]

I am not good at the game, I wish people would stop saying this

You have actually been in some games like Starcraft 1, where you caught obvscum duckling but this time - if you’re town, you’re just dead wrong. Obviously short of my flip, I can’t prove this


YET.

[Nancy Sinatra]

In an case, I know how you can react as town, it's not about that for me

What is it about then?

Your RVS posting and read on HEM

That nai post you keep saying is a scumclaim.

[Nancy Sinatra]

In an case, I know how you can react as town, it's not about that for me

Who do you think Sinatra's scum partners are?

Spoiler:

[Nancy Sinatra]

The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.

~N

This post is where NM keeps insisting is a scumclaim.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I also think Italiano is using the fact that he's in hydra to push suspicion on more slots, like it's very easy and convenient to bounce in the thread here and there to shade slots that Nancy isn't. And it's one of my least favourite schticks when hydras come into threads like "Oh Tweedledee and I were chatting in our PT and he thinks Jiggledorf is scum OMGUSing but I've seen him play similarly in Touhou Mafia CIV but I don't agree with Tweedlees townlock on Swamp Creature", I don't give a fuck present a united voice please

We’re a hydra, we’re obviously not going to mindmeld on everything. Merlin is probably the only game where that happened and in RC Anything uPick, me and Cheeky didn’t agree on anything. Howsver we’re both solidly tr Flea, Gamma, Kitty.

[Nancy Sinatra]

right straight from his mouth, he says he usually defends you. but here, looks like all bets are off when he asks why would anyone take you seriously.

Because he knows NM is wrong here.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Kitty?

Tacky.

They were flaming obvscum in OMB and are playing 180 degrees differently here.

[Nancy Sinatra]

does he think nm is likely scum here?

We both think he could be.

We are in agreement that there’s at least one scum currently sr us, I will be gobsmacked if there isn’t.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I also think Italiano is using the fact that he's in hydra to push suspicion on more slots, like it's very easy and convenient to bounce in the thread here and there to shade slots that Nancy isn't. And it's one of my least favourite schticks when hydras come into threads like "Oh Tweedledee and I were chatting in our PT and he thinks Jiggledorf is scum OMGUSing but I've seen him play similarly in Touhou Mafia CIV but I don't agree with Tweedlees townlock on Swamp Creature", I don't give a fuck present a united voice please

We’re a hydra, we’re obviously not going to mindmeld on everything. Merlin is probably the only game where that happened and in RC Anything uPick, me and Cheeky didn’t agree on anything. Howsver we’re both solidly tr Flea, Gamma, Kitty.

Right but I really don't want to read someone's internal monologue word vomit narration. I don't care. I don't come into the thread like "Today I woke up and walked to work and it was raining, I saw a pigeon on my way....

Sorry but that’s not the way I hydra. \_0_/

[Nancy Sinatra]

Kitty?

Tacky.

They were flaming obvscum in OMB and are playing 180 degrees differently here.

yeah that's my question, i didn't think kitty showed much enough to give us anything to read on.

Unless Kitty suddenly stepped up their scumgame and I mean a whole helluvalot since then, I maintain my read because they didn’t even try not to look like obvscum in that. They were so off the charts scummy, I confidently caught them on d1, same with duckling in Pokemon.

[Nancy Sinatra]

being obvscum in one game is actually a great learning experience which lessons carry over to future games. kitty hasn't even made any posts that can be reasonably called town yet. has he?

Anything is possible from any player but it looks to me like he’s been genuinely trying to sort.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Spoiler:

STD (unfortunate acronym) seems quite scummy given his exchange with Nancy.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

Nancy is town, forget what I said about NM, I don't think this is town NM.

FOS: Not_Mafia

Treat this as a vote in all but VC.

I was busy with a chemistry exam, sorry for being inactive!

I don't really support limming N_M day 1, as usual.

Nancy is town, forget what I said about NM, I don't think this is town NM.

FOS: Not_Mafia

Treat this as a vote in all but VC.

So what about NM made you think they were town?

It's not that I thought NM was town, it's just that I have a personal policy to not push NM day 1. Because most of what they do day 1 is NAI and thus it's a waste of a lim on someone who is null. But this time, their actions stood out as scummy to me.

STD (unfortunate acronym) seems quite scummy given his exchange with Nancy.

VOTE: Save The Dragons

what part of it

Most of it.

[Nancy Sinatra]

it barely attempts to sort n_m and no reason was given why n_m's posts (or even std's) are exclusively scum. are you sure he's genuinely trying to sort?

Again and you’re of course free to disagree. The contrast with OMB is staggering.

I’m liking your posting more and more.

Other than us, who are currently suss on?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i consider myself a swing vote, but i lean more that you're scum who relies on invoking meta (to some degree, maybe playing to your meta) to defend yourself. your premature read that kitty's posts are staggeringly town when there's no substance there add to the list of sus things from you. but i enjoy talking to you.
ivd doesn't even feel like they're town when they post, or even seriously considering that i'm scum.

He does think that. He thinks you/NM but I lean more Dwlee/STD.

If you sincerely believe I’m abusing meta, call my bluff.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.

~N

this is gonna sound like a silly request but can you expound on this lmao
what dm one? why did you bring up your peanut allergy?
i ask because n_m is being dodgy on what makes this scummy

Why not? If this were rl, it would be bad and it caught my attention for that reason.

Yes, which is why I’m so suss on people sheeping it.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

the pushes are bad because they would have known you better and recognize that your play is actually from your town play, right?

I have trouble with they’re refusal to re-evaluate, yes.

STD, how are my reactions any different here than in that dance game?

And clearly nothing remotely similar to FFIV - which Dwlee was also in?

And NM, where did I demonstrate even an iota of conviction in that Jingle game where I hydra’d with Koba?

~N

I don't care about meta sorry

It's not really about NM

I've played with her both alignments I usually...usually tr her pretty hard if she's town

You're also a little slimy italiano

Since when?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

yeah but why though? he just keeps on saying that. why me and nm?

I don’t really know but I’ll ask him to answer it. I initially was pretty much convinced on it but I’m leaning to Dwlee/STD who are objectively being much scummier.

STD keeps saying things that are inconsistent.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.

Speaking of bs takes . . .

[Nancy Sinatra]

i don't think scum!flea defends nancy so hard tho

watch it be scum!flea town!nancy lol

I was just thinking you’re trying to set Flea up after we flip. Hmmm . . .

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.

Speaking of bs takes . . .

What town player ever makes a bullshit post like this?

You either think meta is useful or you don’t.

[Nancy Sinatra]

i mean i stopped voting nancy because i agree with their stance that she's reactive. this is kind of what i'd expect from nancy as town but it seems a bit extreme and when you put it like "caught for the wrong reasons" i'm vibing with that more than "she's reactive"

If you and Dwlee are not both scum, one of you is pocketing the other and now you actually look worse than he does because you keep changing your reasons.

VOTE: STD

[Nancy Sinatra]

I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.

Ew.

I really think Italiano is wrong and STD is scum, probably with Dwlee. This reeks of Witchhunt game.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.

This was a joke

Then answer my question.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I believe in some meta adjacent things but not meta itself. Like when people say "she's like this as town" maybe I agree.

When people say "In x game I was like this here's a link here's a quote" maybe I don't care

Yeah, think I’m keeping my vote.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

aight goodbye im gonna let this one blow over.

Me too I'm gonna hide behind you. I don't know what to say

If you were town, here I think you’d have an answer, because rn you sound like frozen scum.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Answer to what?

Dwlee’s reason for voting me is bs but you just keep throwing out whatever reasons you think will stick.

I asked you about my posting when I was different alignmrnts. Not a hard question and you don’t seem remotely interested in even thinking about it.

First, I’m over reacting, then some bs about a popcorn emoji, now I’m scum cftwr, so wtf is it or will you pull something new out of your ass?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

We've literally only fought in two games and you were scum in one of them

He wrongly sr me in the dance game but unlike here, he actually had conviction and was continually reacessing. Here he clearly doesn’t gaf if his read is wrong or not and Italiano defending him, was a perfect segue way for him to jump back on us. Then he can use his tr as cover and then do a bs push on Flea.

And HEM, you asked me about Kitty. Well I got the exact same vibe from him in OMB that I get from STD here.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I think all those things make you scum

I don't know what cftwr means

This isn’t how you parsed me in that dance game when you wrongly sr me. I call bullshit, you’re scum and I caught you.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

We? Or you? It sounds like Nancy decided

This post shows you were tr us because this isn’t how to talk to someone you think is scum.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

why are you appealing to nancy, std? isn't she scum?

He knows I’m not clearly. He was banking on Italiano defending him to revote me so he’d look good after we flip. His conditional read on Flea - based solely on my flip - also pinged me.

He’s clearly not trying to sort me and he proved it with his conditional meta response.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

We? Or you? It sounds like Nancy decided

This post shows you were tr us because this isn’t how to talk to someone you think is scum.

~N

He was voting us when he made this post. Does that make sense to anyone?

[Nancy Sinatra]

why are you appealing to nancy, std? isn't she scum?

*crickets*

STD caught frozen scum and he damn well knows it.

[Nancy Sinatra]

why are you appealing to nancy, std? isn't she scum?

Ok. I'm town. Come back to this post after the game is over.

He keeps tmi slipping on me.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I think all those things make you scum

I don't know what cftwr means

Ok. I'm town. Come back to this post after the game is over.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

i mean i stopped voting nancy because i agree with their stance that she's reactive. this is kind of what i'd expect from nancy as town but it seems a bit extreme and

when you put it like "caught for the wrong reasons" i'm vibing with that more than "she's reactive"

I think all those things make you scum

I don't know what cftwr means

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

why are you appealing to nancy, std? isn't she scum?

I could be wrong

or just scum. my money’s on the latter.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

How many times does STD have to contradict himself, slip, have conditional meta reads, change his reasons for sr us, act frozen, before it’t beyond obvious?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Keep tunneling me I guess

I can promise you I will. I pushed town!you as scum in FFIV and that isn’t how you reacted.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

We're all going to have a good laugh about this

You sound like scum giving up. In FFIV, you didn’t do that.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... %5B%5D=629

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I play differently every time

but no it's so fucking easy to be lazy and not trust that i've got some of the town's best interest at heart

I find this post extremely ironic because that’s one of the words I would use to describe your play here.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... %5B%5D=629

Another game with town!you getting run up and just like FFIV trying to solve and fighting.

[Nancy Sinatra]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... %5B%5D=629

Another game with town!you getting run up and just like FFIV trying to solve and fighting.

if it is fuckin' pooky i'm going to be really upset at you people

Look at this fire.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Laugh laugh laugh

I'll take the third one because it's the last laugh

This looks like a scumpost. Town!STD didn’t find it very amusing when he got run up in either FFIV or Pokemon.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I think Nancy is scum but I'm not sure

I think it's roden too but I've been burnt by that before and want to be more careful

Or maybe it's kitty tacky who's done nothing to try to sort me

Now he’s flailing too.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Do you really think Nancy is genuine for scumreading literally everything I post

What have you posted that isn’t scummy?

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

I feel town Nancy would feel like "maybe I'm tunneled here" rather than quote every post I make and call it scummy

I absolutely would if you gave me even one single reason to think that.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Exactly

I'm just so terrible at scum I give it away with every post

Or is that not true?

I’m not going to tr anyone just because they’re trying to emotionally manipulate me.

[Nancy Sinatra]

I've made my peace I'm happy to laugh at you all from the dead thread but what are you going to do when it's not me? What are you going to let Nancy and roden get away with?

I think Nancy is scum but I'm not sure

I think it's roden too but I've been burnt by that before and want to be more careful

Or maybe it's kitty tacky who's done nothing to try to sort me

Now he’s flailing too.

~N

Pretty much all of STD’s srs are people tr me and susssing him.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Instead I must be the worst scum ever according to Nancy even tho I have meta that disproves that

You’re not doing anything townie.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

Because that's who I am

No, I already disproved that in the 2 towngames of yours I linked. You - imo - blatantly obvtowned in both when you were getting run up.

~N

[Nancy Sinatra]

You can say I'm scummy til the cows come home Nancy but unless you try to reeval I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be convinced you're coming from a town place

I can only reevaluate if you actually give me a reason to do so and I’m still waiting.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Because that's who I am

No, I already disproved that in the 2 towngames of yours I linked. You - imo - blatantly obvtowned in both when you were getting run up.

~N

You are the one not seeing it. It is not i who is not towning

I didn’t have to look, in those 2 games it was beyond obvious. Here, it sounds like you don’t believe anything you’re saying.

[Nancy Sinatra]

Isn't it obvious why someone would get emotional when being wrongfully attacked

Ah but you’re not. This sounds more like woe is me, than the genuine outrage you had as town.

[Nancy Sinatra]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... %5B%5D=629

~N

I play differently every time

but no it's so fucking easy to be lazy and not trust that i've got some of the town's best interest at heart

I find this post extremely ironic because that’s one of the words I would use to describe your play here.

~N

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... %5B%5D=629

Another game with town!you getting run up and just like FFIV trying to solve and fighting.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... %5B%5D=629

Another game with town!you getting run up and just like FFIV trying to solve and fighting.

if it is fuckin' pooky i'm going to be really upset at you people

Look at this fire.

This is you getting emotional at getting wrongfully accused.