Micro 1056: Moderators of the Discord Server [game over]

[marcistar]

how do we sign up for a location

sign up for stop getting banned

like this?

[marcistar]

oh word,

im fine with being in stop being banned ig

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

[marcistar]

well maybe it should be clear how to sign up for a location...

[marcistar]

it doesnt matter anyways as long as i get the one i want

wdym you thought i already knew

[marcistar]

heck yeah

[marcistar]

have u played in one of these setups b4 rh9?

[marcistar]

yeah u have the green name and everything!!

[marcistar]

I think that that was a faked dumb tell, and that you are scum.

I also am acutely aware that you "accidentally " locked yourself into the option that is easiest for scum to win and hardest for town to win.

And I would expect you to gravitate for the easier option for your alignment

if it didnt count i wouldve use vote tags for it either way, i want to be in stop getting banned cuz i think ill find most fun in it

[marcistar]

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

[marcistar]

everyone loves stop getting banned for some reason...

one of us, one of us!!!

[marcistar]

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

But it looks like you were doing an "oops" thing and now I want to vote you out

the only opps wouldve been my embarassment from having something not xount

glad we prevented that!

[marcistar]

my brain told me the other 2 werent as fun as stop getting banned

[marcistar]

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

[marcistar]

Marci just stole my own reasoning for picking a channel smh

what if u stole MY reasoning

[marcistar]

is it cuz we're all wearing hats..

[marcistar]

how DARE you try to work when theres a mafia game to play!!

get ur priorities straight

[marcistar]

what is there that i should be using to solve right now? its page 4 and not even everyone has checked in..

[marcistar]

i think dwlees scummy

i think they came in with a fixed mindset to push me (scum would want to do this because historically im a pretty easy miselim cuz ill just egg it on LMAO), theyre applying logic to me that could be applied to other players and are using it to call me scummy.
theyre using "oh marcis not solving" as a backing reason, which honestly doesnt seem like its in good faith using it at this point of time, not everyones in SERIOUS MODE yet. + theres been games of mine where i act EXACTLY like this early on until i find something to latcg onto, and I think they know that.

[marcistar]

I wanna do sillyposting
Because I'm so silly

do it silly gal

dont let anyone hold u back the heart wants what it wants

[marcistar]

hows it scummy if i wanted to play that game

[marcistar]

typically we moderators like to discuss and get on the same page before taking action instead of yoloing just because we want something

scummy moderators yolo

but i dont want to be forced to do something i dont want to do

[marcistar]

Hey guys.

I have a secret.

Spoiler:

i think pooky might be a hacker

oh what makes u think

[marcistar]

Skimming through, I too am a little underwhelmed by marcistar's explanation on selection. "Think I'd mix things up [in Sillyposting]" doesn't sound like a real reason, and I'm surprised she doesn't find the idea interesting.

what made you think i would actually find silly posting interesting?

112 i kinda lowkey like

i kinda lowkey hope rh9 signs up for mafia discussion, i think he would have fun there

[marcistar]

svae the dragons u seriously have no preference?

[marcistar]

what we've gotta do is force everybody to get some readslists going before either of the 2 games left get filled i think

would that be helpful i feel like it would be

[marcistar]

i wanted this game what can i say >/////<

[marcistar]

maybe my thoughtline is stupid though

[marcistar]

that ur mean but whats new

i like how save the dragons doesnt care
i like luke
i dislike dwlee

[marcistar]

yeah kinda if u wanna do dat ig, but not like super rn but i think before the rest of the ppl pick their games would be good right?

like we want the scum in the mafia discussion to have hella associations since that game will prob resolve first right?
otherwise they might just focus on being distracting i feel

[marcistar]

I think I would like Faker in mafia discussion?

And I think they said that that is the one they want anyways

yeah i think faker would suit it if they wanted to!!

[marcistar]

I feel very, very good about marcistar being town after the read on Lukewarm.

idk that many verys seems a bit too confident, i dont think my luke read was too hard to say, is it seriously only the luke read backing up this feeling? if its only the luke read backing up this feeling i feel like its a bit hard for me to see u as genuine rn..

[marcistar]

But you did a scummy thing and then didn't do anything townie so you're still scummy why does that not make sense

I feel like you should know by now that my playstyle is just a very scummy one that gains me alot of attention,
the fact that ur just going full steam ahead without thinking and taking into considerations the games youve been in with me where ive been an easy person to shade, it just feels bizzare.

i just took the game i think i would enjoy and its sUdDeNlY a cRiMe!!

[marcistar]

This might sound bizarre but I think that the interactions between Dwlee and marci seem like they are aligned, possibly even scum together.
What does everybody else think?

i wanna know what made you think this.

im pretty sure at this point their push on me is partly in fact that theyre scum and partly fact they seem to hate me

[marcistar]

Why is it scummy for dwlee to call you out for your ibsta lock, but you have not commented on pooky doing it,

if u want my serious opinion, im well aware im an easy miselim, i think dwlees scum strat here is to completely shit on my game early on so that the backing for my miselim is there and so that they'll easily win our game. i think they know my game well enough to know im someone who doesnt care about appearances, so i think theyre trying to manipulate that to their advantage.

meanwhile pooky, i just think hes a bully. jk but only kinda.
i think pooky usually largely values memes over anything else, i think that pooky being brutal is just him thinking it would be lolfunny to block with dwlee. I think its usually pretty hard to determine if what pooky does is scummy until theres a few flips.

(AKA: i think dwlees a bit more serious than pooky is so I hold dwlee to a higher standard)

[marcistar]

Did you purposely avoid commenting on me in this post, or ?

oops sorry im at work rn so posting is a bit on and off

i was confused what u meant when u added urself in there and was gonna ask

DID U LEGIT SUS ME OUT FOR IT I FORGOT ABOUT IT

[marcistar]

oh thats why i forgot about it!

i could see that as a valid line of view meanwhile i think dwlees just bullshitting theirs
i think u had a bit more spice behind ur read than they did

[marcistar]

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

But it looks like you were doing an "oops" thing and now I want to vote you out

the only opps wouldve been my embarassment from having something not xount

glad we prevented that!

ok

it might sound weird luke but this

i was gonna explain but i was trying to hide in the bathroom to explain and someone actually needed in.. lmk if u want the explanation ill do it later..

[marcistar]

Marci needs to set up to push me in our game, she can do whatever in yours especially to try to get townreads that permeate to our game

why do i NEED to push you?!?!?!?

[marcistar]

This might sound bizarre but I think that the interactions between Dwlee and marci seem like they are aligned, possibly even scum together.
What does everybody else think?

i wanna know what made you think this.

im pretty sure at this point their push on me is partly in fact that theyre scum and partly fact they seem to hate me

Bruh what makes you think I hate you vs just think you're scum?

?? I don't see how your plays around me this game are town motivated

also ive felt like u hate me for awhile but ive just never pointed it out. to me its pretty obvious, you always find a way to come after me no matter what anyone else tells you.
idk what i ever did to you

[marcistar]

Oh, uh, well I guess that won't work...if that's what you'd like to see me make up...Nahhhhhhhh!

huh im confused
u gotta make up ur reads? why would u have to do that if ur town..

[marcistar]

OHH!! CASHMONEY OF U IM JUST DUMB

[marcistar]

"hardthrow" but you havent even voted me yet? PLEASE you're scum

VOTE: faker

[marcistar]

i think you knew how easy of an elim i would be based on the opinions everybody has voiced about me so you swapped me in so that you could win this "hard to win" mini game for scum

[marcistar]

why would i swap myself out of the mini game i so vocally wanted LOL stop reaching for straws

[marcistar]

why not? cuz u dont want to partner spew??? : )

[marcistar]

I am disinclined to believe that the scum team would move town!marci to 1v1 with faker, simply because scum!faker could 1v1 most people, and I think that they would want her to go up against someone who was not already primed to lose a different minigame.

It would be like trading an win at SGB for a win at MD, but why prioritize giving your hard hitter an easier win, instead of prioritizing another scum player.

okay but why would scum!marci pit herself against a very good player whos much more convincing than she could ever be?

ur just reading the one side of the coin, you KNOW im a mild scumplayer, i dont like to have the spotlight on myself like this.

[marcistar]

but I know Marci and that's scum on the run if i've ever seen one

scum on the run? LOL R U HIGH

THIS IS ME CONFIDENT
I KNOW IM TOWN SO FAKER MUST BE SCUM

i get how hard it might be to tell the difference since i havent really been confident as of late but :shrug:

[marcistar]

Oh. Okay.
Resolving MD first sounds best to me since it's the option that keeps the most townies in the game to drive discussion? But maybe there's more important factors at play. (I also want to resolve it first so I can focus elsewhere afterwards but that's too personal and specific to really matter)

I'd push against this. Lukewarm is very good at reading marcistar and she will struggle to keep up later, especially if a scumloss comes through.

SUUUUURE IF UR SO CONFIDENT SCUMWOMAN LETS DO THIS

BUT SPOILER ALERT: IM NOT SCUM AND U KNOW THAT ALREADY DONT U

[marcistar]

should've stayed in SGB hun

if i was scum i wouldve bb

[marcistar]

Frankly, this swap reads to me like the scum team decided that you were losing SGB, and needed to get you out of there to avoid losing the "easy game" for scum.

please?

if i was scum all i need to do is convince 1 person lol why r u acting like its a dying cause

[marcistar]

U KNOW THAT ALREADY DONT U

Marci, this makes it hard to believe that you are townie.

You are not approaching this conversation like you were just told that Faker is scum 100%, because you would never need to ask this question.

I felt the same way about a post from you a couple posts back too.

Like, it feels like I need to remind you that from your POV and from Fakers POV, you are guaranteed 100% to be opposite alignments from one another.

i forgot this wasnt chat mafia ngl :kekw:

[marcistar]

rn im playing a game and i forgot i play a bit diff between the 2 mediums :kekw:

[marcistar]

Oh. Okay.
Resolving MD first sounds best to me since it's the option that keeps the most townies in the game to drive discussion? But maybe there's more important factors at play. (I also want to resolve it first so I can focus elsewhere afterwards but that's too personal and specific to really matter)

I'd push against this. Lukewarm is very good at reading marcistar and she will struggle to keep up later, especially if a scumloss comes through.

SUUUUURE IF UR SO CONFIDENT SCUMWOMAN LETS DO THIS

BUT SPOILER ALERT: IM NOT SCUM AND U KNOW THAT ALREADY DONT U

Tonally blitzing this game isn't likely to be an effective strategy. People know that you can fake it for a short period of time; pace yourself and focus on the other games.

Earlier you accused me of not wanting to spew, but this is my first response to you. Instead I've been interacting with the rest of the table, because that is both the approach that I should take as town and the one expected of me as town that I am therefore forced to emulate were I really scum.

im so confident on u?!??!?! should i not go after the head of scum?!?!??!?!

i would interact with others but nothings really interesting in terms of their games so far, still dont like dwlee from yesterday tho but ur my focus bb XOXOXOXOOZ

[marcistar]

Marci, I would like for you to put out solves for the other games as well. And avoid only focusing on Faker.

I am solving? i think dwlees scum.

im not sure whos scum in ur minigame yet though, i havent played with penguin before so idk how to read them

[marcistar]

"nothing really interesting so far" doesnt mean i will just plain out not solve

[marcistar]

I am ready to vote Penguin after I receive assurances that Marci will be immediately murdered for being on the run from the law.

If I was told to vote right now, i would also be inclined to vote for penguin lol

what was ur reason for this again?

[marcistar]

i think pookys a pretty hard read, but ill try to look in his iso tommorow okay?

I LOWKEY FEEL SO SICK IDK WHY- IM GOING TO BED SOON THO

[marcistar]

if there was deeper strategic intent behind it and you were hoping in your opener that you could exploit something along the lines of an unreadable 1v1 of Signs,

bold of u to assume i have a strategy

[marcistar]

He dropped into the game, and saw me calling you scum for locking in, and jumped to us being partners. Still has doubled down on that making any kinda sense, which feels like he was not actually thinking about it and was just looking for people to call scum.

Like, if we are partners, me calling you obviously scummy from the jump feels like I would be sacrificing the game you are in right away. And it does not really make sense for me to set you up to lose the "easy" scum mini game.

And he has latched onto the line that if I were town, I would have locked into SGB -- while simultaneously not having locked into the SGB game himself lol

And his approach feels really similar to my own in the last game, where I faked confidence in ari being town and pav being scum all game.

oh i see

did pooky ever express interest in stop getting banned at all

[marcistar]

i dont get why hes continued with his solve without reevaluating it yeah

u would think meuh being a townie would do aomething

[marcistar]

he was not actually thinking about it and was just looking for people to call scum.

This was my thought when I pointed out that he called all three people who posted page 1 scum.

Like, it seemed more likely to be coming from scum looking for people to scum read, then for town actually trying to sort a list of 8 players, and landing on it being the three first people he saw content from.

i think that og it wasnt really sus but tbe longer it keeps going on it is. theres much better things to be giving reads on but pooky just keepsnusing his underexplained reads.. its lazyni agree yeah.

[marcistar]

oh yeah page 16 is horrible

its kinda funny but pooky looks so obviously scum from it. i dont think pooky is even trying to legitmately read the game.. he looks like hes just memeing
pooky do u seriously think penguins town rn?

[marcistar]

By the way, the swap reinforced my reads.
I think that Dwlee was distancing from marci during D1 so that when they were apart and marci flipped red, scum could use this flip to make STD misvote.

ur being a bit dumb rn

why would mexdwlee team bet our cards on dragons when at the start of it all, we didnt know who our third would be?

[marcistar]

The Swap Options

Option 1) Forced swap, all town in MD

MAFIA DISCUSSION
not voting [3]:

RH9, Faker, Meuh

STOP GETTING BANNED
not voting [3]:

Marci

,

Dwlee99, Save the Dragons

This feels like it make sense. Leaving Marci in SGB feels bad if they could avoid it, and I could see scum!dwlee or scum!STD not wanting to bet the game on being able to 1v1 Faker. (If they thought leaving Marci in SGB was a loss, then losing the Faker 1v1 would be game)

Option 2)Forced Swap, all town in SGB

MAFIA DISCUSSION
not voting [3]:

RH9, Faker

,

Meuh

STOP GETTING BANNED
not voting [3]:

Marci, Dwlee99, Save the Dragons

This feels like it doesnt make sense. Like, scum!RH9+Faker just leaves Marci in SGB with Dwlee, and swaps one of them with StD or even swaps with Dwlee for a bit of WIFOM. Swapping RH9 with Marci feels like the single worst choice for RH9 to try to win SGB. Which makes me want to discard this possibility.

Scum/Scum Swap

MAFIA DISCUSSION
not voting [3]:

RH9

, Faker, Meuh[/color]

STOP GETTING BANNED
not voting [3]:

Marci

, Dwlee99, Save the Dragons

This also feels like it makes sense scum!Marci would rather not be in SGB with a town!Dwlee.

Option 4) Town/Town Swap

MAFIA DISCUSSION
not voting [3]:

RH9

,

Faker

,

Meuh

STOP GETTING BANNED
not voting [3]:

Marci

,

Dwlee99, Save the Dragons

This feels like an underwhelming choice? Like it does not feel like it does a lot to make me think : Ah ha, the scum would want this, but there is also nothing to make me say that they would not want it either.


I kinda want to think about options 3 and 4 in comparison to making a swap into silly posting.

2/4 make most sense i dont get why anyone would think otherwise

I think that Marci's play largely makes more sense coming from scum!Marci then coming from town!Marci, and if I had to resolve your game right now that is how I would do it.

how does it make sense as coming from scum marci?? im town

By the way, what does everybody think of a Pooky-marci-Dwlee team?
I'm leaning there right now.

i think its impossible since im not scum

im thinking dwlee and faker are scum for sure tho but idk who would be scum in lukes game i still need to iso pooky : (

[marcistar]

>94 posts

nvm guys hehe <3 whys he have so many posts i barely remember shit hes done

go girl give us nothing!!!! <3

[marcistar]

im at work rn, so my posts may be spread out a bit.

ill read tho, im curious why that happened

[marcistar]

i think dragons is trying to think thru as many possiblitieieieieieieis as he can so i think thats townie :>

dwlees absence from thread just really makes them super scummy tbhs

[marcistar]

maybe i tunneling on dwlee too much but i dont really have much reason to think otherwise,
i dont see anything wrong in rh9s plays rn, so im curious about dragons read there alot!! everything hes said as of recently is confusing me LOL

[marcistar]

dwlees absence from thread just really makes them super scummy tbhs

lol

shush it wasnt a good time at work today

[marcistar]

i forgot to read it deeply

[marcistar]

oh its just cuz everyone was stubborn

did pooky even push it at all? it looked like it just happened as a result of penguin x luke fight

[marcistar]

It happened because I reined in the wild horses and prevented Lukewarm from rapidvoting Penguin who hadn't posted, only to have him rapid-vote Pooky instead.

oh so u pushed towards the scum wincon!!! lovely

[marcistar]

I think her discomfort in the engagements show a lot more.

I gave this time to let it become apparent: The nail in the coffin imo is the complete lack of care about being on the verge of defeat. Town has lost one minigame, and there's neither indignant fire or flailing despair. She's frozen but knows the game isn't over if she gets voted out, and that there exists a safety net of another partner in a scumsided game to pull the win out if she fails.

im notbuncomfortable with engaging with anybody, just havent had the need to engage when its just 90% of ur bs filling up the thread

stop framing things like i dont care, i care as much as the next person does. ive been busy with work, i havent been "frozen" but ur loving to jump to any conclusion thatll make me seem scummier

[marcistar]

Meuh, who do you want eliminated the most from SGB?
Same goes for Faker and marci.
I want to see your reads because it could potentially impact my decision if we are to resolve SGB after MD.

dwlee

[marcistar]

i still think rh9 is thinking of things backwards,

clearly faker is just egging them on.

[marcistar]

If I was scum why would I swap you out of my game?

cuz ill keep tunneling on u obv

i still think rh9 is thinking of things backwards,

clearly faker is just egging them on.

This doesn't even sound like you believe the second sentence

how??? ur just making shit up at this point tbhs

this game is so boring with faker being so obviously scum

i honestly dont get what rh9 is going on about rn, whats the use on commenting on dead ppl when u can instead use that energy and focus it into reading the people in ur minigame?

[marcistar]

Firstly, Faker isn't exactly obvscum because the rest of us lack the extra insight that you have. We only know that between you and her, there's one moderator and one hacker.

fakers obv scum to me, and thats what makes it boring, when i already know part of the answer >.<
isnt she obviously buddying u? i feel like its v obv to me that thats what shes been doing.

Secondly, my comments were in response to Faker's posts. Not only that, these rereads are good help for my reads on my minigame. It helps me develop my reads.

i dont see you trying to tie it back to any surviving players.

@Marci except if I'm tunneled on you it would be a way easier game for me as scum and I don't think you'd be able to convince the third to vote me out, so it still doesn't make sense if I'm scum to swap you out

??
do you think im not a good player thats kinda true but whenever i feel strongly on a read ill deadass go ham for it so i think that might be a bit scary for scum!u
esp if u already knew u would be so absent from thread.

[marcistar]

You're not really demonstrating that "hamness" against prism rn. It's not that I think you're bad it's just I'm clearly aimed to push you to win my game if I'm scum so why would I just go out of that and then force myself to deal with RH9 (who scumreads me but I wasn't pushing) and STD?

I think maybe they could be players you would think you could take on/convince.

Again, it isn't obvious that she's buddying me.
I have no idea of scum!Faker so there's no way for me to tell her intentions.

really? its obvious to me that shes trying to buddy you,
ever since sillyposting ended, shes been focusing mainly on interacting with you, and making sure you feel like your thoughts are heard, while shooting down anything that

might

be a valid thoughtprocess. thats pretty buddying behavior IMO. I can get examples if you still dont believe me but theres alot of them :shrug:

Secondly, my comments were in response to Faker's posts. Not only that, these rereads are good help for my reads on my minigame. It helps me develop my reads.

i dont see you trying to tie it back to any surviving players.

Well.
To be honest with you, I haven't.
However, I hope to achieve this soon.

There's also just very little point to buddying a town RH9 all the way over in SGB. If my gameplan is to buddy and exploit RH9, I just keep RH9 in MD and clear him. Instead I rolled the dice that Meuh doesn't spiritually connect with her friend for some tonal/meta reason that I will have no clue how to dislodge.

The current plan is also to flip MD first, so even if I'm trying to steer RH9 away from scumreading my partner in SGB, it all goes out the window when my alignment gets confirmed before any SGB votes happen. There's literally zero point in buddying anyone in that minigame, the only person I have to convince is Meuh.

Really? I feel like its a valid strategy for you to be setting up a buddying system thingy with rh9 incase you lose this minigame. It'll make him look worse after your flip, and help your partner in stop getting banned win that minigame.

From a town-marci perspective, though, is Faker-scum just so obvious and no one but marci-town can see it, or would I be intimidating with how much force and control I've had, and an obstacle that is going to be hard for herself and the town to overcome?

it cant be a bit of both because...?

[marcistar]

I think maybe they could be players you would think you could take on/convince.

If that was true why wouldn't I keep you in there and convince them to vote you lol

do u think im a bad player dwlee?

Marci is pretty obviously scum imo. It's not beyond Pooky to egg on town trying to kill his partner, he literally got his partner vigged before, and Marci's play is full of inconsistent reasonings with weirdly placed AtE

bitch stfu ur the one whos obv scum ur not even doing shit except tunnel me and then u think u can CONVINCE people im scum??? ive got to laugh im so very obviously not scum and i dont get why u have to be blind xx

Good idea, actually.
Could you please find. examples of Faker buddying?
I probably missed them all.

670 reads like shes trying to feed you a read a certain way (the explanation after the question makes it that way)
681 same thing, shes trying to pick apart your reads and shoot down any progressive thought process.. but shes trying to do it in a way that won't agitate you. notice in the post how she hasnt said its a bad thought process at all? she just calls it "surprising" which is a sort of buddy buddy way of shooting down a read without making a person angry.
688 not buddying, but its like she isn't stating a suspicion on any of the stop getting banned players in that post; shes replying to you in a non accusatory way, she states somethings "in dwlees favor", she gives a "dragons isnt out of range" but in a half way where she doesnt use it further later on. she isnt hunting.
maybe buddying isnt the right word for these posts, its hard to do this while im tired..
alot of her posts regarding you is just asking questions/pushing your read forward which i view as a form of buddying. <670, 681 fit this> its like shes trying to get in your head and appear helpful and solving, when in reality she isn't putting in the work and she's making you do the brunt of it. she isnt outright doing stuff that will offend and trigger you, but shes doing it like back of the mind sort of thing
690 reads super buddyie imo

...This doesn't feel like town Marci. This reads more like scum!Marci trying to fake a read than anything else. Though I do think that because of her and Faker knowing the other's alignment, she'd read less natural?
But also I feel like Marci would've made her thought process regarding her approach to Faker more transparent as town. So I dunno.

its a !! very !! frustrating game..
like i know shes got to be scum, but i dont think im being convincing enough, im trying my best to prove it but fakers a very good player ughh

@Marci, what do you think about the DkKoba/Dwlee interactions in this game https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89094 comparatively to the way Dwlee has interacted with Pooky this game? Especially since you seem to think Dwlee is scum.
I don't the interactions are exactly the same but to me it feels like it could be a repeat of them putting a lot of effort into having convincing, good interactions with their partner.

ill be honest chief, i kinda dont remember that game at all, and i kinda lowkey dont wanna meta read. i lowkey dont even remember why i got replaced out
was dkkoba actually scum LOL I THOUGHT THEY WERE TOWN..
maybe ill read it deeper tmmrw, but on a skim it looks diff from pooky/dwlee here

Marci do you think you'd be better at swaying the third person in your minigame than Dwlee would be?

and do you actually think Faker is obv scum, or is she only obv scum to you?

yes, i think iwould be better at convincing people than dwlee would be if given the chance.
and prob only obv scum to me, yall are blind i think i get a certain way when i know things for a fact :<

Do you think that may also just be since those 2 had the biggest thread presence? Cause I've seen them interact plenty yes, but also they were the only ones posting so...

idk, maybe,
but i dont see why faker wouldnt use all her time alone with rh9 to try and pocket him.

Why exactly would it make RH9 look worse? If she's the one pocketing RH9 wouldn't it be the opposite?

i think rh9 has a hard time reassessing his reads after someone pulls something over him.

[marcistar]

ur deadass such a good player faker!! its so frustrating im so inferior

[marcistar]

However, I still don't think that she is trying to directly buddy because I can't help advance her wincon if she's scum.

stupid assumption to make buckaroo

[marcistar]

ur deadass such a good player faker!! its so frustrating im so inferior

This isn't directed at me but I think that scum!you is roughly around as convincing as scum!Faker.
(I once glimpsed at her scumgame in Open 843.)

i dont th8nk im very convincing as either alignment ngl

one of my friends told me

good players have 2 qualtities
being right and being convincing

i at best only have the be right because thats just how i focus my time

[marcistar]

r u scum

[marcistar]

nope!

[marcistar]

im at work smhms

[marcistar]

idk how yall can be so blind tbhs

[marcistar]

fakers scum

[marcistar]

I am content to let you lose and have you blame it on others again.

[marcistar]

why does everything faker say sound so fucking nasty

like- her back and forth with dragons STINKS
: (( I like dragons this game

[marcistar]

dwlee does seem a bit better lately, but they're still the scummiest of the stop getting banned bunch.

dwlee -> rh9 -> dragons

everyones jump onto rh9 lately makes me wary of that push.

[marcistar]

dwlee does seem a bit better lately, but they're still the scummiest of the stop getting banned bunch.

dwlee -> rh9 -> dragons

everyones jump onto rh9 lately makes me wary of that push.

What have I done better

ur posting more!!! : DD

[marcistar]

It's nice of Dwlee99 but it's not like I don't solve or put in effort tracking as scum; my entire shtick is out-solving the town to strongarm and then use that position to control where attention goes. If RH9 is town and I'd be advancing a miselim great, but bussing is also pretty free for me with how the game currently is.

[marcistar]

Though, I feel concerned that marci might be trying to buddy me as of late.

why would i want to buddy u of all ppl

[marcistar]

can we do something spicy this game just feels like the same points over and over again my reads are barely changing

someone else talk!!

[marcistar]

what posts

[marcistar]

what posts

840 and 844
He showed active attempts to solve and sort players in those posts.

... i think thats a bit much of an explanation.
"players" he was only attempting to solve u in those posts.
'active attempts" i dont think its super hard to make those posts.

gaem go yawn

But for her personal level idk if I really buy Marci's reads, I think there's more significant hints of solving when she is town.

it depends LOL

I think that MD allows for more coordinated pocketing by scum which I think marci is failing at.

idk i think this statement proves how well faker pocketed u : )

[marcistar]

right

[marcistar]

i mean, theres a difference between the games but whatever

[marcistar]

I dunno about STD. His day 1 looked very good imo, but faking good tone on day 1 likely isn't too tall of a task for scum.

i like his posts today phase decently well.

do they actully seem not good to ypu?

[marcistar]

dwlee does seem a bit better lately, but they're still the scummiest of the stop getting banned bunch.

dwlee -> rh9 -> dragons

everyones jump onto rh9 lately makes me wary of that push.

What have I done better

ur posting more!!! : DD

SIKE

sobbing on the ground rn

[marcistar]

My plan here was sort of WIFOMy. By exaggerating my confidence in Marci!scum it meant that scum's swap gives us info. If Marci and I are TvT, scum are more likely to not swap us out, because they'll want me to lim her. If she is scum then she either has to not swap and appeal to "why would I not swap" or swap and argue frame job.

bold of u to assume i ever think things thru

[marcistar]

If I recall correctly, the reason you thought Dragons was town was because my attitude towards him, rather than the actual posts of his.

funny cuz i dont remember delving deep into the reasons

maybe only a brief touch but

[marcistar]

??

"not the defence i think it is"?

??

??

??

??

the fuck are you on rn?

If this is true: I know marcistar is town in this game + I notice the differences in Eurybia (which marcistar agrees exist) -> I'd have scumread marcistar in Eurybia for those differences.

Then: I didn't scumread marcistar in Eurybia -> I either didn't notice the differences between the games, or

I instead knew that marcistar isn't town this game

.

Her saying "The games are circumstantially different!" is not the defense she thinks it is.

This isn't 100% airtight and there are other possibilities, but I hope the simplification helps illustrate my point. (ex. There is also no evidence in Eurybia that I based my read on this game at all, as it should be. I also might have noticed marcistar was town in Eurybia despite the differences, then move to exploit them.)

they

are

different circumstances

why did you bring up eurybia if you weren't trying to use it to push ur point along?

u KNOW my gamestyle is all over the place prism

[marcistar]

i dont think meuhs that dumb lol

[marcistar]

ive never seen meuh hammer without reason

i think ur just trying to fake concern

[marcistar]

tbh shes prob more likely to take alot of time to think since she got confirmed towned

its prob a big burden on her

[marcistar]

ive never seen meuh hammer without reason

i think ur just trying to fake concern

Dunno about this point
Here are the upside and downside for (town) Faker to not vote for you

Upside: Presents the opportunity for Faker to be confirmed without leaving the game
Downside: Non-existent

Like even if she thinks I won't hammer, why vote?

where else is she gonna vote?

i dont see how mafia cant "confirm themselves" here meuh.. stop falling for her tricks LOL

[marcistar]

the whole world might be against me but thats okay because i have my cute cat cafe game!!

yall r blinded..

[marcistar]

yes

[marcistar]

partly by faker
shes been posting good, but it doesn't make any sense for me to be scum here. shes clearly framed me well and like.. good job! it isnt that hard to frame me usually but still prism is so good its so hard to help yall see the truth behind her scummy ways

and for dwlee, they've just gone back to afk mode and it just
they have nothing thats really + town to them? i think fakers defending of them is a likely partner tie as well.
i dont think being "afk and then popping in every once in a while with a good post" is very hard for scum to do.



(i said "yes" because i meant both : P)

[marcistar]

i think ill need to reread dragons to see if I still have the same conclusion on them as before, but i have no idea when i'll be able to get to that since i have work tmmrw LOL

[marcistar]

not necessarily. i don't have a good memory so I don't remember dwlees scumgame at all.

i just think in general, scum don't like attention drawn to them.
is that not something that lines up with what dwlees doing right now? only posting when they

need

to? : D

[marcistar]

yes very clearly uve brainwashed everyone...

sobbing in pain rn....

[marcistar]

mfs act like its sooo hard for scum to hold back from voting

if faker was truly town, she couldve just hammered scum!me there and got a win over with, but she didnt do that either

[marcistar]

yeah, to help further install the "no doubt in faker" mindset

[marcistar]

i think it could be likely,
but its just a mid read

i think faker x dwlee has compatibility too since she keeps defending dwlee

[marcistar]

omg hi hem

[marcistar]

except im not scum and yall are just gomna be giving scum the W if you vote me out

can you not see how fakers managed this perfwctly? she prob just wants mafia discussion to be the fall back shes very CLEARLY pushing to get stop getting banned resolved first

[marcistar]

shut up scum ur prob so happy ur gonna get ur W

[marcistar]

ur so mean... think of all the tears everyone will shed

u should let town win this minigame instead of completly steamrolling us

[marcistar]

i already think lukes pretty sad, he usually doesnt make mistakes like this

do you want the rest of town to be sad like him?!?!?! please have mercy on us..

[marcistar]

Meuh I'm sure you know but just to remind both of us we do need to kick me out at some point.

Ready to vote Marci anytime

congrats for the L meuh!!!
fakers so obv scum smhs

[marcistar]

we'll lose based on u voting me instead of faker :rosejudge:

[marcistar]

how could this ever be scum?

[marcistar]

first step is always to get a scum down

and then we go from there

we have 0 chance to win if we dont vote out faker here

[marcistar]

even if "fakers confirmed town" you have to realize the only reason theyre confirmed is by a method THEY THEMSELVES SUGGESTED.. Its easy to maufanufacture how you'll appear when its your own plan.

they obv made the plan so they could push a win in stop getting banned first, and use mafia discussion as the fall back. like psh literally ANYONE on this playerlist would win a 1v1 against me isnt that clear?

[marcistar]

its obvious im gonna be the mislim here and we'll lose.

but ill still try my best.

i really dont want that guilty consious on you or luke meuh, i would feel HORRIBLE if I made the game losing vote afterall

[marcistar]

my pet theory is the reason i got swapped into here would make mafia discussion all too easy for faker,

like wouldnt stop getting banned be pretty easy with players like dragons and dwlee? i think they were going for a "make all minigames as easy as they poasibly can be" sorta move

[marcistar]

dragons is an easy take on for dwlee
dwlee is an easy take on for dragons

it works either way.

[marcistar]

PLEASE MEUH uve got to stop being blind and see the truth for once PLEASE.

IVE BEEN SUSED ALL GAME THIS IS A CLEAR SETUP

[marcistar]

ill stop if you really want me to but im just saying

its very clear ive been set up.. faker knows us well enough to know we have shit accuracy on eachother. she prob made the swap knowing she could convince u very easily that im scum.

im just trying to help guide u towards the truth but i respect ur decision either way

[marcistar]

beautiful game

[marcistar]

Dwlee, Pooky and marci, congrats for winning!

thank u omg

i was deadass so worried that confriming town meuh wouldve been our downfall but it all turned out right

I NEVER USUSALLY ARGUE THIS MUCH AS SCUM SO IT WAS FUN TO TRY OUT

[marcistar]

TBH if you had locked into SGB later, I would have changed my reads.

i did it as a sort of yolo panic cuz i was on edge
so i had to try to pick up the pieces but i never did that JEJWJA