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Because I haven’t decided yet obviously. Why are you asking me that when you haven’t either?In post 38, Firebringer wrote:why aren't u healing?- Loki Dokie
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In post 54, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Ejj/loki are 2 scumleans
NAHA, you seem to be a bit lamisty. You are probably at the bottom of my shortlist for leaders. I probably agree with most people on Roden/CSF/Andante. RR also looks decent but not healing anyone yet.In post 55, NotAHecticAlt wrote:ejj mostly feels like theyve identified me as that annoying townie that wont be easy to kill and will be a threat so preemptively shading me to not be leader is a way to shade me and not allow me in the spot.
I don’t want anyone to be leader who is campaigning that hard for it. Feel free to sr me for that.- Loki Dokie
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Oh I missed that. Why are you getting bad vibes from them?In post 64, ejjinami wrote:oh and Aisa is giving me bad vibes tho that's most likely becuase of their playstyle, not necessarily alignment
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This is an excellent point but I don’t fully understand exactly what the leader does but I think the most important criteria should be confidence in the player’s alignment and I’m healing my #1 tr unless someone can explain a better reason for that vote.
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Why is it sus to heal my most confident tr?In post 81, Firebringer wrote:andante would totally be the person scum me would be trying to make leader here btw. So im looking at Loki with sus right now
Do you have a better criteria for whom should be healed?- Loki Dokie
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Dramatic? They sound genuine and that’s why I’m so confident she’s town here.
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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12749463In post 91, ejjinami wrote:
thank youIn post 81, Firebringer wrote:andante would totally be the person scum me would be trying to make leader here btw.
frankly, the intentions behind this post are probably townie
it would be insanely easy for scum to nominate an emotional, tunneled townie and chill with the following yeets
Before you continue your discredit on Andante’s ability to scumhunt, I suggest you click on this link.- Loki Dokie
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Well fair enough but I think we won that game in large part to her reads, so ejjnamii’s characterization of Andante as some kind of uberemotional tunnelled townie isn’t my experience of her townplay, You can be emotional and still have good reads.In post 93, Firebringer wrote:
i said it was sus because it was andante. I am not susing you for voting someone town leader when ur criteria is "I town read them" though i think that is pretty low quality reasoning to vote for someone as townleader but im not gonna argue a playstyle/theory w/e with u.In post 82, Loki Dokie wrote:
Why is it sus to heal my most confident tr?In post 81, Firebringer wrote:andante would totally be the person scum me would be trying to make leader here btw. So im looking at Loki with sus right now
Do you have a better criteria for whom should be healed?
Never said she has bad reads. Said i would be going to try pocketing her if i was scum so i would push her for leader. Also andante from my memory gets pushed alot for shitty reasons when she is town so its safe to white knight her usually as scum.In post 83, Loki Dokie wrote:I also find it curious that you think that scum would be most likely to heal her anyway. Did you read Will you be my Neighbour? She had pretty impressive reads in that.
But thats like 6 months to year old meta we talking here. I am out of the loop on the latest trends.
At any rate, I like your analysis, so I probably shouldn’t be too quick to tl everyone healing her.- Loki Dokie
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Pooky getting his teddybear avatar back can’t happen soon enough for me.In post 101, Firebringer wrote:woah woah woah hold on.
I am just throwing out thoughts. calling it analysis makes it sound like im playing the game.
I am here to enjoy winning that bet with pooky before the avatar goes away.
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Like I don’t understand your point? You’re essentially complaining about how emotional, triggered and tunnelled she is but posts like this one are clearly going to provoke her further.In post 103, ejjinami wrote:
what I meant was- they misunderstood my posts in pretty silly waysIn post 92, Loki Dokie wrote:Dramatic? They sound genuine and that’s why I’m so confident she’s town here.
I got the feeling that they read my posts, got slighty triggered and then overwhelmed with anger when they started writing and describing how scummy and rude I am. As if just writing that kept fueling their anger, causing them to notice new and new arguments for how I'm being bad (which actually were based on pretty simple misunderstandings- I don't think it should be considered scummy by a person who's emotionally sober)
I was asking if it's normal for town!Andante to get so lost in their feelings and lose track of reality
or like... if it's just normal for them to tunnel
sorry if I'm being rude again, I don't know how to describe it otherwhise
If you want her to stop the behaviour you apparently view as so egregious, than what you’re doing here seems counterintuitive.
Like if you stop freaking out at her, I think the problem - if they’re indeed is one - will cease to exist. Iow, you’re escalating the the very thing you’re complaining about with posts like this one. A post like this, if it were directed to me, would very likely cause me to get emotional.- Loki Dokie
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First off, I really really really hate the post cap thingie. I love to post spontaneously but when I didn’t read aboit the post cap in Happy Face, I nearly ran out of posts on d1. Why do you hate us so much @Pooky?
Tell me your secret, I’m still working on all of it.In post 112, Andante wrote:
It's ok.. I am a changed andante!! can't be provoked. can't be pocketed. I have learned that was not a personal attack. so thus we move on. we find the 3 terminators, make town the leaders, and we call it a day!In post 110, Loki Dokie wrote:are clearly going to provoke her further.
Interesting, tell me more?In post 121, NotAHecticAlt wrote:im getting scumpings from FB in the sense he feels like Squid Game here
It’s extremely amusing that you sr me yet echoe a post I made earlier.In post 124, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Loki's interest in being on Andante's good side, knowing how Andante tends to play, comes off as a scum pocket in the sense that they're trying to look good by giving andante leader ? this is like strictly a preflip off seeing andante as town and noticing how loki is treating Andante, as matter of fact town who has good reads and not separate from that, if that makes sense.
ejj feels LAMISTy in like a subtle way too
so rn like preliminary scumpool is [FB/ejj/Loki] for independent reasons.
gamma/CSF had weird entrances too
I’m actually feeling better about ejj now due to their interactions with Andante.- Loki Dokie
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Oh and what’s weird about Gamma’s and CFS’ entrances?In post 134, NotAHecticAlt wrote:we can use hurt tags to vote on that
HURT: ejj
HURT: loki
HURT: Firebringer
And still trying to decide if you’re town and your ability to read me hasn’t improved since Anything uPick or you’re scum tunneling me similarly to what you did in Witch Hunt.
Oh and pro top, it’s completely pointless to use hurt tags unless it’s literally to remove a previous heal.- Loki Dokie
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Yeah, I really don’t understand what he’s done that screams town to anyone? I don’t currently sr him but I don’t think he’s done anything at all ai so far.In post 139, Firebringer wrote:
i dont trust penguin and have no clue why u doIn post 129, NotAHecticAlt wrote:
bc if so, feel free to file the issue here:In post 128, NotAHecticAlt wrote:does anyone have any issue with a pairing of Penguin - Andante for team leaders btw?
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And I definitely don’t want NAHA as leader because I don’t trust their reads whatever they are in this game.- Loki Dokie
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This is an extreme reaction to my post since I am nowhere even remotely “frozen”.In post 148, NotAHecticAlt wrote:loki frozen and crying in scumchat
Back to thinking you’re scum again.- Loki Dokie
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Wtf????In post 149, NotAHecticAlt wrote:My core value in life and the only one that translates over to mafia is to hold tight the characteristics that make me an individual and not forgo them for anything. I understand you are worried that I will get eliminated, however that is not enough for me to change my talking style for you. Not strictly relevant, but people have been trying to change me my entire life and I have always maintained my values and manner of speaking through the deepest of pressure. I'm not saying I am triggered but being asked to adapt my style of speaking to suit a vague and abstract ideal personality doesn't sit right with me. I'm not blaming you, I'm just offering my perspective, it is not my intent to tear apart my innate values as a person in what should be my favourite past-time and a way to blow off steam. I hope these comments do not come off as antagonistic and I wish you the longest of days.
Who and what is this even about or directed to and why do keep ignoring my questions?
In post 151, NotAHecticAlt wrote:its an extreme reaction to me shitposting to gauge your reaction and you passed
So you’re tr me now? Well that is definitely different from WH. I still don’t understand most of your reads. I’ve only played one game with scum!you. How do I know this isn’t a pocket?In post 152, NotAHecticAlt wrote:believe it or not im not actually informed of your alignment and need to sort to figure it out.- Loki Dokie
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Not really, they said they liked my reaction to their post but I think it’s in the realm of possibility that could be a pocket.In post 157, Firebringer wrote:
Would be a weird pocket attempt if it was one.In post 155, Loki Dokie wrote:How do I know this isn’t a pocket?
Anyone who’s ever played with me knows I am or definitely have in the past been an easy pocket or it’s also possible that they’re town and this is another silly reaction test. I have no idea but I’m very suspicious of them regardless. They seem to be working overtime to get tr, ironically what they’re currently accusing ejj of doing.
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Yeah, I don’t understand the Penguin read and I can’t really read asia at all.In post 201, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What, the game only had 5 pages at this pointIn post 111, Aisa wrote: "Since I've started writing this I see this has been discussed and people mostly seem to agree with me" was shorthand for "I skimmed some of the discussion. On a more careful reread people have already made these points, and it's also been discussed more since I started writing this".
I realise this sort of posting is anti-town and it would make life better if my posting were accurate the first time around. What can I say, eh, digesting posts fully is hard and the thread is busy right now.
Not really seeing Aisa town atmIn post 120, NotAHecticAlt wrote:this is towny af
my current leader pool is:
[myself, Aisa, Andante, Penguin]
Elaborate on how it was "weird"In post 124, NotAHecticAlt wrote: gamma/CSF had weird entrances too
lmaooIn post 195, Firebringer wrote:U got to stop playing with yourself hectic
@Fidget, I’m very rarely wedded to much on d1.
Actually I know exactly who NAHA is, Hopkirk of course.
So, I’m still good with my vote because Andante is currently the only slot, I’d currently bet the game on being town.
My #1 sr is Pooky for giving us this post cap, I would auto yeet him in a nano second.- Loki Dokie
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Can you elaborate more on that? Both you and NAHA have been sussing to on FB. and yeah, it’s the only sr of theirs that makes any sense to me as a possibility, since I think ejj’s reaction to Andante read like exasperated town to me.In post 211, Roden wrote:Aisa Eiji Loki Gamma all feel town so far
FB seems like he's kinda just posturing
@Andante, if you really are that not okay with being leader, I will unvote you.- Loki Dokie
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I don’t have a read on asia yet and I don’t see why you view my asking Andante if she really doesn’t want to be leader, I would unneal her, “performative”?In post 221, ejjinami wrote:[heal.]aisa[/heal]
pending…. Edited and broke the code cuz I realized that I don’t know how the vote count looks like.
Will repeat if it’s safe
I want my heal there but I’m not exactly confident enough to hammer
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you know… why not just be honest?In post 212, Loki Dokie wrote: @Andante, if you really are that not okay with being leader, I will unvote you.
I find it kinda amusing how you’ve justifying unvoting right now with their request despite blatantly ignoring it when you first made the vote. They said nothing about that recently, which makes it feel like at first you ignored the request in order to paint a confident/decisive self-image and now you’re using it as an excuse to vote elsewhere.
For the sake of clarity, you could unvote without explanation and no one would bat an eye. The excuse wasn’t even necessary.
This is not a scum-read btw. I don’t think I know you personally and this action in particular doesn’t seem to be linked to anything besides a giant attachment to how people perceive you.
Tho I find myself unable to see through performative behavior after a few days, I will most likely seriously consider yeeting just for the sake of safety. Honesty is greatly appreciated.
Because I did that right after Roden made his post saying pretty much that or did you somehow miss that?
Like how do you have this take and completely ignore that?- Loki Dokie
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It is but I could possibly see an argument that maybe they seem more muted? here like in Squid? Idk. So far, I really can’t tell but NAHA was right on Fire in Squid, so it’s something I need to consider.In post 229, Roden wrote:
The scum claim jokes don't feel natural. I get the feeling that they would be making those jokes regardless of their alignment, but tonally it comes off to me like they're only doing it because they already established that they're gonna be doing it. I'm seeing a lot of jokes and messing around, but it's like they're playing a character.In post 212, Loki Dokie wrote:
Can you elaborate more on that? Both you and NAHA have been sussing to on FB. and yeah, it’s the only sr of theirs that makes any sense to me as a possibility, since I think ejj’s reaction to Andante read like exasperated town to me.In post 211, Roden wrote:Aisa Eiji Loki Gamma all feel town so far
FB seems like he's kinda just posturing
@Andante, if you really are that not okay with being leader, I will unvote you.
Then again, idk if this is just how they typically play.- Loki Dokie
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In post 210, Roden wrote:HEAL: NotAHecticAlt
I town read Andante but I understand that she doesn't want to be nominated. So my second heal will just go to whichever of her town reads I agree with the most.
Here @ejjanamiIn post 212, Loki Dokie wrote:
Can you elaborate more on that? Both you and NAHA have been sussing to on FB. and yeah, it’s the only sr of theirs that makes any sense to me as a possibility, since I think ejj’s reaction to Andante read like exasperated town to me.In post 211, Roden wrote:Aisa Eiji Loki Gamma all feel town so far
FB seems like he's kinda just posturing
@Andante, if you really are that not okay with being leader, I will unvote you.
Tell me how I wasn’t being “honest” again, I’ll wait.- Loki Dokie
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In post 210, Roden wrote:HEAL: NotAHecticAlt
I town read Andante but I understand that she doesn't want to be nominated. So my second heal will just go to whichever of her town reads I agree with the most.
@Roden, if you feel good about Eiji, me and Gamma, why wouldn’t you heal one of them > NAHA?In post 211, Roden wrote:Aisa Eiji Loki Gamma all feel town so far
FB seems like he's kinda just posturing
What does you hard tr on Andante have anything to do with your reads, unless you tr NAHA more than Eiji, me or Gamma?- Loki Dokie
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In general waffling=town and hedging=scum so nothing to do with my read on you but it’s very different. Waffling is making a read, doubting, going back on it, reconfirming it, etc. Hedging is more like well X is doing stuff that I could see coming from town, otoh, they’re also doing this thing that scumpings me. See my point?In post 240, Firebringer wrote:
The lie detector says:In post 218, ejjinami wrote:
forgive me for being blunt, accusing people for doubtful reasons at best won’t accomplish much at this pointIn post 191, NotAHecticAlt wrote:RR trying to hedge a read without appearing to do so
very creative strategy, I'll have to try it sometime
You wrote that read without thinking much, possibly a response to a scum-read on you.
Possibly as a way to maintain the leader-persona
please, quit it.
it just makes you appear unpredictable. It would be good to have some way to determine whether you seriously think of scum-reading someone or it’s just a reaction-test
blehIn post 192, Firebringer wrote:dont we all hedge. i mean ur hedging on me.
I am hedging on a secret coin flip on a few players.
Hedging keeps the game turning
forced
Give me the result tho
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That’s a 180 degree switch up? Especially on Penguin.
Waffling tends to occur in different posts with usually a logical timegap betweeh those changed reads. Hedging can either occur in the same post or subsequent posts that progressionwise don’t make much sense.In post 243, Firebringer wrote:makes sense but ur going to have to point out why and how ur certain on someone isn't a waffler vs hedger
So for example, waffling: I have a strong town or sr on a player and then either new information or a new assessment makes me switch that read. The read changes but the logical progression behind it makes sense.
Hedging is more like you look like you’re making an actual read but failing to commit to it. It’s a way to make it easy to at some point out of nowhere flip your read on a player, since you’ve already laid the groundwork for having either kind of read on them. If you make a read where you outline points for where they can be either alignment, you don’t need to account for your read change.
It’s not black and white but it’s far easier to be outed as scum for illogical progression or fake waffling thznhedging because you’ve already laid the groundwork to be uncommitted to that read. So as long as there’s clear logical progression on a read, waffling is usually town indicative where as hedging makes it far easier for scum to hide.- Loki Dokie
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????In post 251, NotAHecticAlt wrote:
Don't put words into my mouth. That is all for now.In post 246, Loki Dokie wrote:That’s a 180 degree switch up? Especially on Penguin.
Waffling tends to occur in different posts with usually a logical timegap betweeh those changed reads. Hedging can either occur in the same post or subsequent posts that progressionwise don’t make much sense.In post 243, Firebringer wrote:makes sense but ur going to have to point out why and how ur certain on someone isn't a waffler vs hedger
So for example, waffling: I have a strong town or sr on a player and then either new information or a new assessment makes me switch that read. The read changes but the logical progression behind it makes sense.
Hedging is more like you look like you’re making an actual read but failing to commit to it. It’s a way to make it easy to at some point out of nowhere flip your read on a player, since you’ve already laid the groundwork for having either kind of read on them. If you make a read where you outline points for where they can be either alignment, you don’t need to account for your read change.
It’s not black and white but it’s far easier to be outed as scum for illogical progression or fake waffling thznhedging because you’ve already laid the groundwork to be uncommitted to that read. So as long as there’s clear logical progression on a read, waffling is usually town indicative where as hedging makes it far easier for scum to hide.
You literally did a 180 on both and you at least referenced eijj but you went from wanting Penguin to be town leader to sr him.
So what words did I put into your mouth? What did I say that wasn’t true?- Loki Dokie
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In post 253, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Where did I say I scumread penguin?
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HEAL: ejj
HEAL: andante
My current top townreads are ejj, andante, and CSF - ranked from strongest to weakest.I can’t wait for someone to suddenly accuse me of not hard tr Andante but between you and eijj misconstruing my posting, anything is possible.
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In post 22, Radical Rat wrote:
I think it's best we take this one leader at a time for now. Gives us time for more AI content to be generated from the first election that can be used to inform the second.In post 18, Gamma Emerald wrote:Are there events for every day phase?
HEAL: Roden
HEAL: Cat Scratch Fever
First one is just cuz, second one is because I feel like the question about what Leader does is a genuine town ask
Anyway, looks like this is the chance to put some demons to rest more directly.@Pooky, how do multiple votes work? Do they work as in multiple votes but for one leader or do multiple votes mean, we’d be voting for 2. and do we need to have selected 2 leaders by deadline or just one?
If we’re only required to select one, then I agree with RR here but this approach makes sense. I do like asia’s being cautious about not rushing things so maybe town?- Loki Dokie
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Where I’m at is that whatever NAFA, Roden and Fire are, NAFA and Roden don’t look to be aligned with Fire, should that ever become relevant.
It also kind of sucks for me that probably the best player at correctly reading me, I’m not great at reading.
Okay thanks.In post 256, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you are allowed to heal 0 1 or 2 players in your most recent heal post
those heals will count for leader selection
if a player reaches 6 heals, that player will be locked in as a "leader"
if you do not elect 2 leaders this way, then whoever has the most heals at the end of the deadline will become "leaders" plurality ties broken by seniority
I don’t want to rush but I liked RR’s caution so might sheep Andante on that but I need to hear a lot more from RR first. Maybe asia?
I still think I want to keep my heal on Andante regardless unless she absolutely objects to being leader.- Loki Dokie
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In post 267, ejjinami wrote:In post 230, Loki Dokie wrote:I don’t see why you view my asking Andante if she really doesn’t want to be leader, I would unneal her, “performative”?
Because I did that right after Roden made his post saying pretty much that or did you somehow miss that?
Like how do you have this take and completely ignore that?Mmm
yeah sorry, I did miss that post. It makes sense.
Frankly, I hated the response at first but that it might have been my fault. Let’s talk about it, this wasn’t the only post I got that vibe from, I just used that one as an example.
Your attitude seems performative to me in general.
Besides a rather high self esteem and caring A LOT about what people think of you, I fail to see a personality through your posts.
There is no conclusion about alignment in my reasoning and I’m not trying to do so, so if you’re looking for anything game-progressive, feel free to skip reading this post. Placing it in a spoiler.
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To sum this up, I have very little tolerance when I know for a that my words are beung egregiously being misconstrued. I won’t deny all of the ego and combative parts, which are probably true and I’m working really hard to change that. And I get that this is a game of social deception and I’m not entitled to be tr until at least a blatantly obvtown but I am never going to apologize for getting rightfully salty imo for being called either dishonest or now “verbally deceptive” when with all due respect I know that is absolute bs.
And yes I care about being tr, since I am town and while I am extremely rarely miselimed in regular games and while the number of post cap games I have played in is infinitesimally small. I have been miselimed in almost every single one if them because one of my town tells is tone and my having to constantly worry about that is interfering with that.
So you’re perfectly welcome to wrongly sr read me here if you do?, that is on you but if you wrongly accuse me of things like dishonestesty or being verbally deceptive when I know that isn’t rven remotely the case, I will come at you or anyone else who does that really fucking hard.
That said, my read on you hasn’t changed despite you clearly being incapable of reading my true thought process behind my posts. That is in no way intended to be an insult and if it’s coming out like thqt I apologize but you’re not exactly making it easy for me by pretty much coming extremely close to calling me a liar abd if you think I’m over reacting to that, than switch places with me and honestly tell me you’d be okay with that when you know it isn’t true.
So we may possibly have a playstyle clash here. But I’m always going to jump on anyone in any game who wrongly accuses me of either dishonesty or deceptiveness. You are free to dislike me for that but so long as I don’t cross the line with my reaction, I don’t feel I’m in the wrong here.
I don’t know what more to say. I still think you’re town but if you cannot tell that what you’re saying about me is so very wrong, I probably won’t be healing you despite agreeing with all of the trs on you. That said, I am lowkey possibly suspicious that NAHA could possibly be pocketing you in large part because you switched your read on me. If NAFA is scum here and I’m still on the fence about that, then you need to know that they are absolutely terrified of town!me, so much so that they did everything possible to kill me the last time they were scum.
I would really like to work with you but that can’t happen as long as you’re essentially wrongly accusing me of
lying.
Andante had extremely good reads in that Neighbour game I linked, so I feel that estimation of her scumhunting abilities is accurate. I posted that link so you can gauge that for yourself.- Loki Dokie
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Well still Andante, maybe Fidget? I’ve really liked her recent posting. I also agree with whomever thinks Gamma’s probably town here. I played with scum!Gamma in a comparible setup and he didn’t play anything like this.In post 313, ejjinami wrote:The game state is worrying me a bit.
I don’t exactly feel any agenda in the people voting and besides firebringer (who’s healing vanity wagons and literally can’t be pushing an agenda) and Loki (who’s talking about it)- people seem to be just chill with whatever happens :/
The first conclusion my brain wants to make is that scum either gave up and there’s no difference between the alignment of those who’re currently the top heals (me, andante, aisa)??? tho frankly, I had to convince myself that it makes sense before seriously writing it down
The same thing happened early on when everyone simultaneously agreed that cat scratch and roden are good candidates
Gun to the head- scum may be aiming for town-creed
Or town already is healing scum so it’s safe to act in reverse
I don’t have a lot of time to think tbh, I’m just ranting, have to dip soon
@hectic why cat scratch over aisa?
(Self-Note to comment on the read on rat in [p]294[/p])
@FB why not vote andante then?
Frankly, I am considering hectic as well tho i doubt my train of thought rn is determined by logic
@loki sorry xd
I don’t have time to discuss formalities.
I’m down for talking about hectic tho.
who do you want to heal?
Well in Witch Hunt they relentlessly deathtunnelled me, called me “caught scum” before I ever made a single post and post-game admitted to “fear-killing” me at night multiple times. Mech and saved me twice I believe.
It’s hard to tell because I really don’t understand how town!NAFA could still have me in their PoE but they’re not deathtunnelling me either.
That reaction test, I really don’t know what to make of it. Fake or genuine?
In Anything uPick they were bleeding obvtown right out of the gate, so Idk but if scum, I could see NAFA switching to healing you for switching your read on me.
I’m also wondering about Roden, nothing particular stands out for me other than he mentioned that you, me and Gamma were tls but he voted NAFA because Andante was att tr them.
But I’m usually paranoid about Roden. Wrt RR, he is always scummy irrespective of alignment. It’s the degree that makes that ai.
I have no idea rn who is scum but Andante is an absolute townlock and think you’re town and feel pretty good about fidget.
Beyond that I really have no clue. Sorry if that wasn’t terribly helpful.- Loki Dokie
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They literally haven’t posted anywhere on site since June 12th.In post 322, Radical Rat wrote:I'm going to also say that the people shading shoshin are slightly more suspicious than they were before doing that.
They literally have not posted whatsoever. That's just a flake to me, and probably not AI unless they have a history of doing this as scum.
I prefer Andante and Fidget but not opposed to Eijj. Need more convincing on RR but don’t really understand the suspicion on him either.
I rn have major reservations about a NAHA wagon since I’m still on the fence about their alignment.
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??????In post 329, NotAHecticAlt wrote:I changed my mind I want to strictly be leader again.
Anyone who opposes it i want detailed reasons because I can actually do well in setups like this with unknown mechs.
Loki- idk if you know this, but my PoE is not "bottom5" or whatever arbitrary number.
And andante please stop blatanrly misrepresenting me.
I will mass quote all the posts that aren't "spam" for you and if you want to talk spamming stuff i should bring up one of your own towngames.
Honestly?
HEAL: ejj
HEAL: csf
I also changed my mind on giving andante mech control too.
If you are going to accuse me of "pointless spamming", when
I think RR is pretty much obviously scum and shoshin probably scum by PoE of me having some degree of townread everywhere else.
I'm *not* having control wrested from me because i need to play nice to not have the game screwed over.
The sheer fact so many people are circling to put me in PoE makes me feel there is at least 1 scum there potentially aiming to silence me because i do play well and yes loki that is why you are that low.
Are you actually not reading my posts? Shoshin hasn’t literally posted ANYWHERE on site since she /inned for this game on June 12th.
I am that low because if you’re scum here you need me dead. And you putting no poster in your PoE who hasn’t posted ANYWHERE on site is EXACTLY what you did to me in Witch Hunt.- Loki Dokie
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Is it possible I’ve just solved the game and the scumteam is actually NAFA, Roden, FB?
Because NAFA is pinging my scumdar off of the goddamned charts now.
HEAL: Fidget
I prefer Andante, Fidget, okay with Eijj, Aisa, RR, probably anyone but those 3.- Loki Dokie
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I obvtown read you in Squid game correctly and got sucked into briefly grtting pocketed by you disagreeing with Guillo in Witch Hunt. I really don’t care whether you tr me or not. You putting a no poster in your PoE who hasn’t posted since June 12th - well before Pooky handed out role pms - is suspicious as hell.In post 337, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Loki being this ignorant and not tmi-ing me town is town indicative and this is going to be an annoying game
Where did I assume that? Fact: there exists no evidence anywhere that Shoshin posted anywhere on site since she /inned for this game.In post 339, NotAHecticAlt wrote:It is terrible play to assume a non poster is town. That is how you want me to play. I will not. I will sooner eliminate the 0 poster and expect it to flip scum over most of the rest of the playerlist
I was in a game with scum RC and he hardpushed her slot as scum for being a no poster. Turned out the slot was actually town and Shoshin was a no show due to having had internet issues.
If a poster hasn’t been onsite since June 12th, it likely means that she never picked up her role pm, so the only correct read on her slot logically can only be a null.- Loki Dokie
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Okay you do have a point but I was also prodded in WH, probably twice I think? and I was town, so the point still is we don’t know. If you’re claiming I think she’s town, I never said that. We have no way of knowing if she got scum and went MIA or had internet issues after that. That slot will probably get replaced and then we’ll actually have something to base it on.In post 341, NotAHecticAlt wrote:You dont prod a player who didnt respond to their role pm ^^^^^
Please stop skimming and actually read. (Ironic i know)
Oh and I also hard tr you in RC’s game, so I don’t think there even exists a game where I was scum and you town? So where you’re getting this I’m town because I didn’t tmi you town has never actually happened.- Loki Dokie
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I wouldn’t go so far as call it an actual tunnel. I’m actually going back and forth on you but in both RC and Squid game, I pretty much obvtownread you straight out of the gate. And while you might of course have had other reasons for tr eijj, it did seem to happen after they switched their read on me. And I can understand why Andante thinks you’re spamming, several people think you’re posting too much, so idk but I don’t want to heal a slot I don’t confidently tr and still think could be scum.In post 342, NotAHecticAlt wrote:You are tunneling me based on misinterpretations and false assumptions. Do better, I know you can
It probably doesn’t help that I’m not hard tr the people voting you either.
I bet the game on Andante!town and Fidget seems really townie to me as well. Eijj also feels really genuine. Whatever your alignment is, your play has been kind’ve scummy.
Convince me I’m wrong then and I’ll reconsider.
I don’t recall any game that I was scum with you town and I have never heard of anything like that. Only game comes to mind is something blade and I’m extremely sure you weren’t in that.In post 345, NotAHecticAlt wrote:
We hydrad together and i also replaced into a game where you flipped scum (the botched backup claim)In post 343, Loki Dokie wrote:
Okay you do have a point but I was also prodded in WH, probably twice I think? and I was town, so the point still is we don’t know. If you’re claiming I think she’s town, I never said that. We have no way of knowing if she got scum and went MIA or had internet issues after that. That slot will probably get replaced and then we’ll actually have something to base it on.In post 341, NotAHecticAlt wrote:You dont prod a player who didnt respond to their role pm ^^^^^
Please stop skimming and actually read. (Ironic i know)
Oh and I also hard tr you in RC’s game, so I don’t think there even exists a game where I was scum and you town? So where you’re getting this I’m town because I didn’t tmi you town has never actually happened.
So no, i am not making things up.
I am town here so im going to have logical answers to all your accusations
At any rate I’ve correctly tr in two games, so that’s another thing I don’t like because you’re rewriting history when you make claims like that.- Loki Dokie
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In post 351, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Your point is that I've never seen your scum game - but I have. Please stop arguing semantics with me.
What is your reasoning for sr Fidget? She seems pretty damned townie to me? Like I totally don’t understand how you make your reads and wrt: Andante, I have played two games with Andante!scum and two with Andante!town, so I’m extremely confident she is not scum here.In post 350, ejjinami wrote:
you really could be asking better questions here tbhIn post 319, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
why are you scumreading ejjinami?In post 299, Firebringer wrote:PenguinPower - The grifter. Would sell five people the same bridge. That he has no rights to sell.
Shoshin - The illusionist Makes you think she isn't here even when her name is clearly in the player list.
Ejjinami - The brains of the operation. Will play 3d chess all around you while you are playing 1d chess.
and the fact that they're likely to be leader, does that worry you at all?
frankly speaking with your level of involvement, I’m more surprised that you do strongly agree with the town-read
talk to me about rat.
frankly, I’d probably pair you all before thinking of healing.In post 320, Aisa wrote:The second heal is tentative. I think CSF's posting has shown engagement with the game and a solvey attitude. Her latest posts in particular seem pro-town in the way they advance the gamestate. I think I've also seen others mention they townlean her, so I think there is a chance of getting a consensus election on her. Anyone wanna join me here?
I could consider Fidget if people think that's a better option. I could be persuaded on Andante or NotHectic, but I think both carry some real risk, so I think I would need some actual persuasion or something notable to happen.
those are the 2 players I have currently the most doubts about
bleh
How is cat scratch townie?
and frankly, I’m sorry if it’s just me reading into wrong things- I don’t trust fidget. I seriously don’t think anyone has provided any good reason for them being town . I mean, I admit that my reason for being wary of her might be pretty dumb as well but I really don’t like how seriously people want to heal there “just because” and are ok with doing it without really any progression being there.
You seemed to strongly town-read antante before. Why them over her?
What do you think about rodent btw?
This is why I don’t tr you, you keep misrepping my posting. You say I tr Shoshin when I have no read on her and I never ever said you haven’t seen my scumgame. What I actually did say is I have 0 recollection of whatever game you’re referring to and I have correctly tr you in two games. Stop misrepping my posting would be a nice start if I’m actually wrong on you.In post 351, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Your point is that I've never seen your scum game - but I have. Please stop arguing semantics with me.
And wrt to RR, how do you know he’s not thinking the same as me wrt to Shoshin? You just flat out assume she has to be scum and he’s her buddy? What if it is internet issues and that slot winds up being town? You’re just making assumptions.
And even if I’m wrong on you, remember the game you spectated in where you had all of the wrong reads? Like I think Implosion!scum and maybe Enchant!town or was it a different scum you were wrong on?- Loki Dokie
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No you misunderstood my point about RR. I’m not calling him scum. I’ve seen games with him where he often gets wrongly sr as town and I’ve also seen him as scum. That’s my point. He’s extremely obviously scummy as scum. Not really sure how to explain this better?In post 353, ejjinami wrote:
tbh agreed with gamma (even tho it’s mainly gut on my side)In post 327, Loki Dokie wrote: Well still Andante, maybe Fidget? I’ve really liked her recent posting. I also agree with whomever thinks Gamma’s probably town here. I played with scum!Gamma in a comparible setup and he didn’t play anything like this.
disagree with fidget-regardless if reasonable or not
I… really don’t think they’re scummy here :/In post 327, Loki Dokie wrote:But I’m usually paranoid about Roden. Wrt RR, he is always scummy irrespective of alignment. It’s the degree that makes that ai.
great thenIn post 327, Loki Dokie wrote:I have no idea rn who is scum but Andante is an absolute townlock
remove fidget and we agree 100%In post 328, Loki Dokie wrote:I prefer Andante and Fidget but not opposed to Eijj. Need more convincing on RR but don’t really understand the suspicion on him either.
wait, why lol?In post 329, NotAHecticAlt wrote: I think RR is pretty much obviously scum
So convince me why Fidget is scum and I’ll unvote her? Also we have one day left and I have no intention of keeping my vote on a vanity wagon.- Loki Dokie
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Eijj I think Fidget reads really townie to me but I obviously have to hammer a wagon come deadline but I’m vibing with a lot of her takes and really don’t see why she’s scum here?
So I’m currently voting my preferred heals because we still have over a day left.
@Fidget do you agree with NAHA about RR? Idk. I mean obviously if either Shoshin or far more likely her replacement flips scum, it would obviously have to make me take another look at RR.
Asia is also fine I think. Need more on CSF not really seeing a problem with them, so again don’t understand what eijj sees.
The more this game goes on, I’m really glad I’m not in consideration, I don’t need the pressure.
@CSF, also tell me why you sr. RR.
If RR is actually scum here, then I’m maybe wrong on NAHA then.
Some people might know them like Gamma and probably Andante wrt mine. I can’t really speak for NAHA.In post 365, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Loki and hectic, your back and forth is tiresome no offense. You guys are alts, yes? Are they outed?
No offense but that really wasn’t cool, it’s not officially outed anywhere. If people figure it out fine but I’m not okay with it being officially outed. :/In post 366, NotAHecticAlt wrote:mine was outted in the other game on this account, I'm DkKoba - I'll let Loki decide to out their main but it is an outted alt if you know where to look.
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Are you not going to give any reasoning for this vote?
Shoshin is being replaced.In post 385, Radical Rat wrote:Really not fond of the shoshin pushing now though, like. I get being wary, but it's lazy and frankly a bit mean to just automatically scumread someone for flaking on a game. They'll either get in here and post and we can judge that, or their replacement will. And to suggest that I must be defending a partner simply because I don't want to assume someone who literally just isn't here is scum.... absolutely absurd, really.
I honestly don’t know what to think anymore about NAHA.In post 386, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
True about andante looking at your iso, but i don’t think this is true in the not hectic case. I think Loki and maybe one or two other ppl were scumreading there?In post 384, Radical Rat wrote:
And what is "going against the grain" here?In post 381, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
They aren’t going very much against the grain, so I’m just kind of confused where these TRs are coming fromIn post 363, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.
Like Andante was townreading them for that reads list and for “doing stuff” which is like a weird way to characterize their play
I was the first to heal Andante, I was at least one of the first to start scumreading Not Hectic, and while I was rather late on healing ejj, It's not like I'm just sheeping everyone else blindly.- Loki Dokie
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Where is the Andante wagon? @Pooky?- Loki Dokie
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do you have actual gamestate reason to believe shoshin is/was scum?In post 339, NotAHecticAlt wrote:It is terrible play to assume a non poster is town. That is how you want me to play. I will not. I will sooner eliminate the 0 poster and expect it to flip scum over most of the rest of the playerlist
I obviously need to catch up and feeling really good about you. First off, I was in error about Shoshin haven’t not picked up her role pm, which NAHA corrected me on. That is 100% nai and while I think that flaking can often also be nai, I know for a fact that Shoshin absolutely hates playing scum, so wrt to players like her, there still is a difference between the two. Of course it’s still obviously possible she had internet issues after picking up her role pm but it does kind of concern me that certain players idea of what obvtown means is being tr by them.In post 472, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This isn’t quite accurateIn post 340, Loki Dokie wrote:
I obvtown read you in Squid game correctly and got sucked into briefly grtting pocketed by you disagreeing with Guillo in Witch Hunt. I really don’t care whether you tr me or not. You putting a no poster in your PoE who hasn’t posted since June 12th - well before Pooky handed out role pms - is suspicious as hell.In post 337, NotAHecticAlt wrote:Loki being this ignorant and not tmi-ing me town is town indicative and this is going to be an annoying game
Where did I assume that? Fact: there exists no evidence anywhere that Shoshin posted anywhere on site since she /inned for this game.In post 339, NotAHecticAlt wrote:It is terrible play to assume a non poster is town. That is how you want me to play. I will not. I will sooner eliminate the 0 poster and expect it to flip scum over most of the rest of the playerlist
I was in a game with scum RC and he hardpushed her slot as scum for being a no poster. Turned out the slot was actually town and Shoshin was a no show due to having had internet issues.
If a poster hasn’t been onsite since June 12th, it likely means that she never picked up her role pm, so the only correct read on her slot logically can only be a null.
If the gamestate seems to have minimal scum impact, it points to absent players as possible scum
I had a scum game of mine get fucked over before I could even post because of this philosophy
So I am still 100% locktown on Andante but no longer opposed to NAHA as leader. I’m okay with CSF if Fidget is a no go.
@Adante, I agree with what Gamma said. Is it possible you dislike NAHA for playstyle reasons?
Because I don’t see scum!NAHA really making this kind of post.In post 452, NotAHecticAlt wrote:
you're calling me scum essentially and calling my scumreads town - so frankly maybe I just dont want a repeat of team mafia where you hard townread the most obvious mafia to me and scumread the most obvious townie to me. I'm getting deja vu and I'm not in the mood. You have literally never read me correctly when you have been town and you intentionally lean into that when you're scum too. Do you understand how frustrating that is to play against? Like the 2 times i was scum against you - you didnt say anything about me because i know how to play around town you. its literally so easy and the strategy has not changed.In post 429, Andante wrote:
what about telling your candidate to not tell the voters they have a skill issue...In post 427, Firebringer wrote:What should I tell the people to get u leader
when im town it is simply just frustrating af when you misread what i say, misrepresent my posts and simply just bad faith tunnel me *every* *single* game*.
so yeah im going to snap back with "skill issue" at this point because theres no convincing you i think.
So based solely of confidence in trs, I’d vote Andante, Gamma but based off of reads Fidget, CSF, NAHA make me feel more confident.
I’m concerned that if NAHA, Fidget and CSF are right, then we might could have at least one pocketed leader in Eiij and another in Andante.
So I’m rn probably the most concerned with the RR wagon.
HEAL: Fidget
HEAL: CSF
This is my current compromise votes on players I both think are town and have confidence that they’re not pocketed.
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So do you sr them then? From what I recall this seems pretty typical for them. They were like this in an anonymous alt game as town, so jumping to conclusions is pretty much their mo as either alignment but I’m unsure enough on them as well as the wagon composition to not prefer them.In post 483, Gamma Emerald wrote:I dislike NAHA because their reads lack any visible depth
Maybe that’s playstyle but from what I know of them I don’t think so
So feel good with my votes because I still have no clue what to make of the NAHA v RR thing, so prefer leaders who are both less tunnelled and if NAHA is correct, prefer leaders not hard tr RR atp.
If I can get a clearer handle on that, might possibly change my mind but as long as I don’t have a confident opinion on that and based off the amount of time left, I think this is best.
I explained that here. If Gamma’s right, then one of NAHA or RR could possibly be scum here and until I have a more confident read on either, Fidget and CSF seem like safer bets.
That’s in a nutshell, my issue. I honestly don’t know what to think about that yet.- Loki Dokie
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So clearly an awful lot’s been happening since I last checked thread. @Gamma, I would have voted you had you started active posting earlier, so there just wasn’t enough time.
I would love to be on CSF’s team with Andante, Gamma, Fidget for now, so we need one or two more. NAHA? one more? Asia maybe?
I’m starting to wonder if I signed up for Coalition or Squid game again.
*takes parachute*
I don’t understand the srs on CSF and RR hard objecting to her being leader? Just why?
@Gamma wrt your question to me about FB. It’s probably mostly because he’s being so nice to me, so slight paranoia? \_0_/
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So do scum jump in a Delorean with Doc Brown and go to the future? Not trying to be flip being in Pooky games kind’ve does that to you.In post 577, Fidget wrote:I have come to the conclusion that going to the past is probably where you want all of the town you can to go, because otherwise the game doesn't really make sense. Scum need an incentive to do something, and there has to be meaning to picking who goes and who doesn't. If it's a valid playstyle for scum to stay behind that's a bit strange considering it said we want town as leaders.
I don't think you should try to play PoE games with the pools because I am wary of what happens to the people who stay (and maybe the ones who go). But, it's your choice. We have 7 days to pick between the two teams, apparently.
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Sort of. Loki seemed genuinely locked in an ego battle with N-Hect, Aisa comes off as a pure being to me.... Loki I'm kinda still figuring out but they play a very distinct town game.
Lemme dig deeper just for you. Yeah it's their relationship with N-Hect, I think they're genuinely interested in the sort of... back and forth they're doing where they townread/scumread/townread/scumread back and forth according to various previous game performances. Loki bogged down like half their ISO with that, idk if it irks them as much as scum. Best I got.
Aija is kinda peaceful. I reread her ISO and didn't come up with anything. I might replace her with Gamma to be honest. I'm not sure what I like about Aisa other than that she's pleasant
But seriously, can you explain how time travel to the past makes sense with this game because that totally went over my head?- Loki Dokie
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Why not Andante though? Talk to me more about Enchant. I didn’t really get much of a sense from Roden.In post 579, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 569, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I need to get back to work, but NAHA, Loki, Fidget, Gamma, ???
I wouldn’t object to me, Loki, Enchant, NAHA, Fidget being one of the optionsIn post 571, Enchant wrote:Add me in crew 5 times and that's it.
Won reread, I think I get it, it’s like Divergence or something, we need to go back to the past to save the world from the terminators.- Loki Dokie
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You’ve made it clear you don’t like me and also concerned about your reads. Idk but I still don’t understand how and why you make them. I explained all that kind’ve earlier when I made my leader votes. Also when did you start doubting Gamma? He’s like one of the most obvious townies in the playerlist after Andante.In post 591, ejjinami wrote:
that's not partneredIn post 588, Loki Dokie wrote: I would love to be on CSF’s team
scum want to be spread, they're risking their lives here
it's not like this conclusion has any sort of use rn tho
I'm curious, why CFS?
It’s extremely frustrating to me because your thought process reads very genuine, I guess some of your conclusions somewhat baffle me.- Loki Dokie
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Why do you think they’re mafia? I really don’t understand the srs on them?In post 594, Andante wrote:if I'm even on a team, I do not want to be on CSF's team, CSF is maf so whatever team that is, is not passing the "coalition test"- Loki Dokie
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If that happens, wonderful but if it doesn’t the two of you will be forced to take another look and re-examine everything.In post 616, ejjinami wrote:
no idea tbh XDIn post 611, Andante wrote:
hahaha I just hope it's a good sign that they're similar...In post 608, ejjinami wrote:
ngl, I love the fact how similar our reads areIn post 603, Andante wrote: If you want a bunch of town
RR, me, you, gamma, naha, probably penguin?
something like that would just end the game- Loki Dokie
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I’m still extremely confident she’s town but why she’s still not tr me yet, is a total mystery to me, since I think I’m playing very similar here to Neighbour. eijj doesn’t know me at all, so that’s the bulk of what I’m attributing that too.In post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I just listed the names CSF gave + a TR of my ownIn post 592, Loki Dokie wrote:
Why not Andante though? Talk to me more about Enchant. I didn’t really get much of a sense from Roden.In post 579, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 569, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I need to get back to work, but NAHA, Loki, Fidget, Gamma, ???
I wouldn’t object to me, Loki, Enchant, NAHA, Fidget being one of the optionsIn post 571, Enchant wrote:Add me in crew 5 times and that's it.
Won reread, I think I get it, it’s like Divergence or something, we need to go back to the past to save the world from the terminators.
Andante is also potentially viable but ngl I’m wary of her
I feel like I might be learning Enchant’s style fairly well, don’t want to give the full road map yet but there’s a game he replaced me in that is kinda my blueprint for his town game, it felt like this. Also recall TRing Roden earlier.
Gth, if you’re right on Enchant, then I’d be very surprised if our coalition didn’t succeed and I still don’t for the,life of me understand the CSF srs. I think both eiij and Andante aren’t fully considering everything but since they’re not correctly reading me it appears, they’re obviously not going to listen to anything I have to say anyway. That’s why I unhealed her because both of them have similar reads that I don’t understand or agree with.- Loki Dokie
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I think Asia’s fine too. Wrt to FB, I really would like him to tell me why he’s being so nice to me in this game and decide whether or not I like his answer.In post 620, Gamma Emerald wrote:If I wanted to construct a group I felt good about being town rn it’d probably be me, Loki, Enchant, Fidget, and FB, with CSF as captain
I think NAHA is town, they sounded genuinely frustrated earlier.- Loki Dokie
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I’m extremely con this is town!Gamma. I played a comparible game with him as scum and he kept doing all of these super shady things.In post 623, ejjinami wrote:
noooooooooIn post 612, Loki Dokie wrote:
You’ve made it clear you don’t like me and also concerned about your reads. Idk but I still don’t understand how and why you make them. I explained all that kind’ve earlier when I made my leader votes. Also when did you start doubting Gamma? He’s like one of the most obvious townies in the playerlist after Andante.In post 591, ejjinami wrote: I'm curious, why CFS?
It’s extremely frustrating to me because your thought process reads very genuine, I guess some of your conclusions somewhat baffle me.
wait sorry XD I didn't mean it that way
I get way too personal and talk way too bluntly way too quick
It's a bad habit of mine
I think you're cool lmao XD
How does it matter whether our reads differ or not? I'm not picking a team immediately
all of that is up to discussion
gamma is my gut read. I played with them once (they pocketed me as scum late-game)
I felt like they cared less and liked sooome of their pop-ins, tho like- it was never a strong read for me tho
tbh I was largely sheeping the town-reads others wrote when talking about them yesterday
If you want to elaborate (or quote a post where you did), please do so
(same with Rat...)
(if you don't want to, I'll be looking through your ISO tomorrow)
(tho that'd certainly make it easier)
It’s hard to explain with Gamma but I don’t see anything agenday with their posting here. In the other game, he was constantly pushing these weird things. Like he sr a player for an absolutely ridiculous reason. Like he looks for really out there reasons to sr players but here, his thought process seems very genuine. I’ve played tons of games with him, so this kind of thing develops over time. Am I always right on him? no but I strongly believe I am this time.- Loki Dokie
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In post 630, Andante wrote:
I mean, for a coalition you just need strongest TRs, and I'm not the one making a coalition, I just judge the ones CSF and ejj make, so I can just keep chilling for now, some people are easier to tr than others, and sometimes that's all you need. Aisa over here... didn't they like insta town lock me, and now I'm just barely a tr? right... THAT feels like scum trying to push a buddy or 2 to be more TRedIn post 627, Loki Dokie wrote:but why she’s still not tr me yet, is a total mystery to me
Okay. God only knows why but whatever.In post 632, Andante wrote:lol ok, I think Loki and Aisa are 2 maf- Loki Dokie
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Gaslighted by me? Why? I don’t agree with your takes, you or Andante’s. How is that gaslighting?In post 633, ejjinami wrote:
I am already trying to do thatIn post 618, Loki Dokie wrote:If that happens, wonderful but if it doesn’t the two of you will be forced to take another look and re-examine everything.
I've been asking you for elaboration on reads for 2 days.In post 627, Loki Dokie wrote: I think both eiij and Andante aren’t fully considering everything but since they’re not correctly reading me it appears, they’re obviously not going to listen to anything I have to say anyway.
deliberately mentioned that I'm gonna read the case on fidget the day after because I didn't want to consider it in the tired state
I've been bluntly talking about sheeping 2 of them (gamma, Andante) previously
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frankly speaking I feel gaslighted right now.
it's up to you whether you want to chat or not
My biggest fault is habitually being an ass. I can see how it'd make you feel unwelcome
besides that, I really have nothing to say
btw. what do you think is your specialty as scum?
My “specialty”? What???- Loki Dokie
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Well in the last two games we played, we really severely butted heads. Now I know that I’ve changed for the better so maybe that’s why. Look whenever people treat me differently than I expect, I get paranoid. *shrug*In post 634, Firebringer wrote:
Why should i be mean to uIn post 629, Loki Dokie wrote:Wrt to FB, I really would like him to tell me why he’s being so nice to me in this game and decide whether or not I like his answer.
And that shouldn't be a reason u determine a read on me whether im nice or not.- Loki Dokie
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I agree with this list but you can’t have both CSF and ejji in the same coalition but yeah. I have a lot of confidence this would pass but don’t know about ejji but Andante thinks I’m scum for some reason, so not a lot of confidence that would happen.In post 628, Aisa wrote:
Right this second, I would probably doIn post 621, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:What does your ideal crew look like, Aisa?
ejjinami
myself
fidget
Loki?
Gamma??
Andante???
I also tr you (personally pretty pleased with the outcome of the leader election!), so would definitely swap you into the list if I didn't have to limit it to one leader. This is essentially a list of my top 6 townreads.
But idk, think I prefer to lock a few people as fairly strong townreads then keep everyone else neutral until I've had time to think about them, so this is a pretty uncomfortable question- Loki Dokie
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I never ever fake my emotions, so that’s both a strength and a weakness for me. Since I’m not scum here, it’s probably difficult to answer that question but I’m far more self-aware as scum and have a much better idea how I come across. If I was actually scum here, I wouldn’t be baffled by srs on me because I’d actually understand why but since I’m not, I can’t begin to fathom them.In post 652, ejjinami wrote:hey loki btw
I'm currently considering this - I'll listen to your strongest reads (town-reads) and take them into my team, yet leave you out.
I don't promise that I'll do that, it's a suggestion I haven't fully considered myself. I do usually seriously take into account insanely confident reads of other players regardless if I trust them or not. If town- good. If scum- fair chances are- they're whiteknighting a townie anyway.
Are you confident enough in your reads to have me do that?
I'll skip this part. I feel like it'll lead to a conversation about different understanding of words and possibly me misunderstanding your playstyle and I'm not really looking for that.In post 640, Loki Dokie wrote: Gaslighted by me? Why? I don’t agree with your takes, you or Andante’s. How is that gaslighting?
My “specialty”? What???
By specialty I mean- what skill you are most proud of.
My guess till now is that you may specialize in faking emotions or something related to that
I do realize that answering is not in your best interest, tho it WILL help me understand you better if you choose to do so
Like- what skill of yours do you feel most proud of
What's the single thing you do most often when trying to manipulate others
you can refuse to answer if you want to. I'm not gonna judge for that
What you’re asking if you don’t tr me, why would you trust my reads? If you think I’m scum you obviously shouldn’t but if you think I’m town you probably should.- Loki Dokie
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