Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm alive, catching up on two games now. Will also be in and out for the next hour or so if anybody wants to chat

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm reading another game rn but you're def top spot rn

[JohnnyFarrar]

Phone posting from work so I don't get prodded, only thing worth talking about in the first couple pages is aussie town. Anybody wanna sell me on something while I got time?

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Because chaos is

naturally

scum indicative. Chaos is inherently anti-town and often leads to bad voteoffs that provide little to no information. There's no pro-town reason for playing with that level of chaos.

Newb tell newb tell

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Roden

Marci's town.

Roden needs more votes.

I'm seeing some BTS solving here. There's a pretty good chance you're town.

Why do you think Marci is town?

I legit don't understand this post? Like I don't follow at all

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suspicious of roden because the early townread of shoshin for "solving behind the scenes" seems (1) kinda awkwardly explained, (2) seems like tmi? like, i'm a bit skeptical that he saw two basically naked votes and decided there's some townie solving happening there

I take back that townread dats

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Does this mean that you think that I'm scum with Marci? Or that I'm scum and shading town!Marci? (I think the answer is obvious but I kind of want to hear it all the same)

Hi I hate this

[JohnnyFarrar]

Alex is very scummy.

Good someone agrees

[JohnnyFarrar]

Upon further consideration, I've decided Alex is town.

Ope nvm

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Johnny popping in to say "I exist" and then immediately top townreading the one person to reply to him with zero reasoning as his only two posts is a concerning opener. This has gone so under the radar no one has even talked about it yet. I'd like to hear why that townread was given out when he posts next.

It was jokes I hadn't read but like 2 posts

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Before I fall asleep -

Aussie has a fun laid back vibe that I think scum would be hard pressed to fake, won't vote there today.

Crescent I wanted to push for the lim today, but the more I read the more they came off as just the opposite kind of player to me, which often rubs me the wrong way. Would absolutely still vote there tho, there's at least one part of 209 I don't like.

I like the end of 215 from scamper, but I also think scamper makes a lot of absolute statements about what scum do and don't do and that kind of FACTS and LOGIC approach is real easy for scum to hide behind. Still unwilling to vote there today.

I'm about 100 posts behind and feel asleep typing this so everyone else gets a free pass till tomorrow

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi

[JohnnyFarrar]

Happy early birthday freedom

[JohnnyFarrar]

I prolly shoulda gone VLA for the holiday weekend, wasn't expecting it to be so busy. Oops.

I'm laying down now, will be around for a while to catch up and chat if anyone's on

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Prolly taking Crescent off the table Today for 231, pretty townie

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Woah neighborhood claim outta nowhere

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I claimed because I want to see what happens and I'd bet there's scum in the hood

I like this

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Dag how did I not get that pagetop

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Prolly taking Crescent off the table Today for 231, pretty townie

No one else has even mentioned this post that I can remember.

Why does it stick out to you?

I think for myself man

You responded relatively quickly (10ish minutes) to a question about your style in a way that read as off the cuff and the idea of you being scum just isn't present. Seemed natural and townie

[JohnnyFarrar]

I am flip and sarcastic

[JohnnyFarrar]

(I know that's a less thorough response)

[JohnnyFarrar]

like Aussie as a nickname

Oh BTW I tend to nickname a lot and I'm also attempting to use less gendered language in general, so if at any point I call you something you don't like, absolutely let me know and I will stop without comment

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ur so buddy buddy

Trying to decide if you just throwin' bows like this is townie or not? Like I'm wondering if this is toward an end or if you're just being shitty

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relatedly: i dont really like corwinoids entrance at all...

Ooh, why not? Is it cause it's plsin white bread w/ no butter? Cuz that's what it makes me think of

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This whole exchange on 16 and 17 makes Alex look like the right vote

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i don't keep track of numbers, they depress me

I've never related to anything more

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idk i feel like datisis had the time to get into the game but just hasnt

As someone also struggling to catch up these takes are frustrate

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i saw but didn't want to comment on shoshin until i was caught up, but *big sigh* at the replace of shoshin, i was p darn sure she was town and page 19 is just very very unpleasant to read

I vibe w/this

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anyway i caught up and heres where im at rn:

Datisi - scum
Bellaphant - scumlean?
Ausuka - town
Crescent - town?
Alexcellent - townlean
JohnnyFarrar - scumlean
Corwinoid - scumlean
Save The Dragons - nulltown
scamper - radiant lodestar of towniness
Roden - townlean
Freedom - town
marcistar - null
Gamma Emerald - town

Hard disagree on Alex and Bella, tho I don't really have any questions.

Where does the Roden and Gamma reads come from?

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I don't like this Datisi wagon and I think it's distracting from the much more correct Alex wagon so let's

VOTE: Alex

[JohnnyFarrar]

Aldo caught up. What's good?

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Draggo I liked for the hood reveal until just recently, and they haven't posted much besides? Or if they did I don't remember?

Gamma I've been nursing a baby scumread on because of an early thing they did with Crescent, but I also just played a game with them where they were feeling down so I wanted to give them space to blossom

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I'm ironically celebrating my freedoms today so I'll be touch and go, if y'all do 15 pages again we'll fight

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I don't think I've ever played with Marci, is this normal?

[JohnnyFarrar]

this is a recent towngame if u care

@gamma do you remember anything of this game? I skipped around the ISO but ain't no way I'm reading a 500 post ISO

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i'd vote johny, corwind, datisi, and freedom at this point

VOTE: Corwinoid

Corwin's the only one that even sort of makes sense here, help me understand

[JohnnyFarrar]

My content BARELY sucks

[JohnnyFarrar]

I thought you were fading away

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I don't feel any sorta confidence on a Marci read. Is m1056 not the game they linked? I thought they were town in that?

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Nvm I was wrong that's a different game

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This does feel like how scum!marci interacted with town!Faker in Micro 1056

Hey Draggo and Datisi, does this ring true? I don't wanna read Micro 1056 either

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Wouldn't have even thought to check the PT

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Adding Roden to my "don't wanna vote them today" bucket

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I follow Aussie's logic with Marci, but Alex jumping there as well makes me nervous, I'm still more confident we get a red flip there

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Alex

explain your scumread on alex?

It's exactly the opposite of my read on Crescent. Alex reads unnatural and stilted. They sheeped you onto Bella and sheeped Aussie onto Marci and I don't like either of those votes

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Like, if you read their posts it seems like they're more ready to defend thselves than they are honestly looking for reads and reactions.

And the timing of the Marci vote is convenient for their own self preservation. And I haven't double checked, but I thought they were fully townreading Marci beforehand

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Good god

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Lol I feel like we're the old men trying desperately to keep up and every time we show up these youngins shout HOW BOUT YOU PLAY HARDER

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I feel like I'm missing context there, so I'll just say I'm never assuming someone is acting in bad faith. I'm here to have fun and assume you all are, too.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm around if anyone wants to chat.

Was kinda hoping Gamma was doing a deep dive on Alex but they just trailed off.

Not really a fan of the Corwin push. I feel like the the inactivity and fluff isn't super indicative, and while I do find his sudden short temper weird I'm still more confident in Alex.

[JohnnyFarrar]

That seems self evident

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You've got me on a Rollercoaster of emotion, Crez

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't have anyone in this game pinged as a lolhammerrer

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I must have skipped a page somewhere, I feel like I missed something

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I felt like I was keeping up at work today but missed the Corwin claim. I'm rereading now before I shower

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Johnny has one post in the last ~40 hours, and has no content since speaking against the Corwin votes in #1058, roughly 43 hours ago

Kinda said my piece on Corwin and I stand by it. Maybe I'm a sucker for ate or maybe I empathize with the whole "I get frustrated that not being on here 24 hours a day is a scum tell" but I don't wanna hang 'I'm. Seemed like I was out-voted there so was just waiting for Corwin like errybody else.

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i also wouldn't cry if we yeet marci instead

I don't love this as an alternative, either.

[JohnnyFarrar]

it feels a bit mean to let him be run up like this t_t

I'm reading this as genuine because the alternative is yucky

[JohnnyFarrar]

i think its mostly hard cuz ppl have this like golden trio of suspects
im in the golden trio
so i know the golden trio isnt it
but i dont know where exactly everyones clowning

if yall want to lim me go ahead, since corwind claimed jailkeep i would be the better lim anyways.
but that doesnt change what im saying
yall are wrong somewhere.

Yeah actually Marci's town here

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Alright caught up. More inclined to vote Corwin than Marci here, but would still rather Alex.

I don't think we should end day until we hear back from Scamper and Penguin tho

Hopping in the shower now, ask me questions if you want

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Because I think he's actually scum

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I'm not much of a 'case' guy. He feels slimy. He feels opportunistic. When he shows up I'm always like 'yeah you would say that right now'

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm clean now

If there are 4 neighbours, an ascetic Miller and whatever Bella is, does a JK really fit here?

i mean, any of the neighbours could be scum

True, actually I forgot Corwin’s a neighbour

“Town Neighbour Jailkeeper”

Does this sound like a thing?

It's probable. There's no reason why a Town JK Neighbor couldn't exist.
However, this wouldn't match up with Ausuka and Bella. There would be too many Town PRs and suggest that Mafia has some fancy PRs too.

Don't love this

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who is penguin

he meant Bella

^

what do you actually want to hear from me?

I don't understand your position now. You unvoted and I never saw anything after that

[JohnnyFarrar]

There would be too many Town PRs and suggest that Mafia has some fancy PRs too.

This part

[JohnnyFarrar]

Y'all the vc is right there it says 5

[JohnnyFarrar]

That's a wild couple of flips. Catching up in another game then I'll take a look here. Gut says Scamper is off the table, prolly the rest of the hood as well.

Pedit Ausuka you ok??

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Jeez. Red flips are harder to feel good about when they're traitors. So Corwin knew his partners, did his partners know of him?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mafia team is aware of your existence but not your identity or your specific abilities

Ok, so they didn't know Corwin was bulletproof or whatever. That means it wouldn't have necessarily been their priority to defend him, even if they suspected he was traitor

[JohnnyFarrar]

Corwinoid

[7]:

Save the Dragons

, Datisi,

Freedom

, Gamma Emerald,

Roden

, Crescent, Ausuka[HAMMER]
Alexcellent[1]:

JohnnyFarrar

Datisi[1]: Marcistar
Scamper[1]:

Corwinoid

Not Voting[3]: Bellaphant, Scamper, Alexcellent

I've got the rest of the hood marked because I'm not interested in pursuing them without a lot of convincing

It's not impossible that there were multiple scum on the wagon, but I think with a traitor we would only have 2 or 3 scum left? So idk.

For scum on the wagon my best bet is Gamma, but that might be due for a revisit. I can't rightly remember much of what Gamma has done this game. We're also in multiple games together so that doesn't help. Maybe gamma/datisi?

For scum off the wagon my bets obviously on alex. I haven't seen anything that makes me rethink my d1 read

[JohnnyFarrar]

Cuz I haven't?

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You are very grammatically correct, Crez. I'll send a tip to the one teacher that's still friends with me on Facebook

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VOTE: johnny

i'm gonna sheep scamper for the time being. i'll try to figure out what's what at some point

I didn't even know scamper was voting me? Hold the phone

[JohnnyFarrar]

ok so

- i think the rest of the hood is probably town

- while i realize we cant give credit for having pushed corwin since he flipped traitor, i still think crescent is very town

- i think ausuka, gamma. and datisi are all probable town on play

- my poe rn is just johnny/marci/alex/bella

1. We are mind melding on the first two points

2. Your POE was entirely

off

the wagon? I don't think you're scum but I do think you need to examine your thought process

[JohnnyFarrar]

I keep putting this off

Hey most of the fam is sick, got a doctor visit in about an hour and then I'll effort I swear.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm alive. I'll be around to chat while catching up if anyone's around

[JohnnyFarrar]

JF you wanna actually bother to explain your read on me?

Don't have a good one yet bb girl lemme work. You fit my POE tho.

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There are exactly 3 people who never voted him. Thinking the solve is that easy is dangerously lazy.

Frfr Crez hit it on the head here scampii

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There’s also the fact he’s a hard read and I think that’s tactical on his part

You make me sound like a super villain -_-

[JohnnyFarrar]

i actually think more likely than not JF would be the one making the kill on most scumteams here

Wuh

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It's all a matter of meta really.

...Very interesting that obvtown Scamper's the only unvote here.

So like, I always get a lil paranoid when I'm the top wagon, but I felt this.

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Lol scamper did a meta dive for me

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ISO dive idk what I'm on

[JohnnyFarrar]

I have a pretty solid towncore right now

Honestly really feeling this. Std, Freedom, Crez, Scamper and Ausuka win this game for us 100% it's why this game has been on the back burner.

[JohnnyFarrar]

im twon

Hi twon

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Perf vc timing!

Bella wouldn't have been my first choice for a wagon here, but I don't have a huge problem with it.

@Bella, I intend to put you at E-1 sometime in the next 24 hours. When you see this I'd recommend a claim

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Was gonna type 'u smell bad' but I thought that was too mean. I'm sure you smell just fine

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intent to hammer

We're in a good spot here. I'm not gonna overthink

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I ate the fridge plums

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Do we just save him the trouble?

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Not commenting on replaces. Whatever you're going through if you see this, Bella, I hope you're alright.

That said, the slot feels sort of doomed and I don't wanna subject someone to that, y'know?

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I'll give it til after I put the kids to bed later, if no one objects I'll hammer

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I'm town simple combined doctor voyeur.

I visited Crescent n1, and should I say who I visited n2? Or do we wanna potentially catch them in a lie?

Tbf I had to ask several questions to even fully understand what my results meant each night anyway

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ok ya confirming scamper is vanilla. Was hoping to protect

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm in an America's best eyeglasses store catching up, might not post more till later (but it is a long line tho so maybe)

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well fuck me, i sort of believe that claim, just by the speed of it.

I don't know that I like this reaction, almost angry?

[JohnnyFarrar]

town one shot novice complex vigilante

See all these roles are just gibberish to me. Gonna have to Google all these modifiers later

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do u know what johnnys claim means

the only word i understood was doctor so i trusted it based on that

I believe he can only protect someone who is vanilla, and voyeur can see what action happened to who he targeted that night. I think. He'll probably have to confirm this.

This is how I understand it

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Once I catch up Ima right everyone's name and what I gut read/remember them doing in this game to get my thoughts straight. You should donthe same! I don't trust my POE from yesterday

[JohnnyFarrar]

Write not right

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Woah wait where are the freedom votes coming from?

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Np Gamma

I Keep not clicking on this thread because it requires effort. My sincerest apologies everyone.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I've been prodded! I'm at an auto repair shop dealing with a.... situation but if I end up in this waiting room for a while I'll catch up now

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- i would be scumreading johnny very hard right now based purely on his posts

Oof if I had a nickel

otoh im worried that, like, even if johnny is town hes just...going to keep not doing anything and that makes him a liability in ELO

Like this just comes from a place of you not liking my style, which is fine, but sounds a bit hypocritical when Marci is right there (no this is not a push on Marci)

i also think my read on freedom has grown really stale and i should prob revisit that

Is this where the freedom stuff starts

i also think my read on freedom has grown really stale and i should prob revisit that

i also think my read on freedom has grown really stale and i should prob revisit that

I'm very paranoid of Freedom because a lot of my town read there hinges on my feeling that Corwin was likely the only hood scum. I did feel that Shoshin was probably town but like, it's not based on anything remotely solid. Freedom's had very little actual contribution in a pro-town sense.

This is bananas to me just because scum in a hood with the traitor sounds wild. Like, really wild.

freedom, do you care at all about who gets killed today?

As I was reading Freedom's posts I agree they don't seem like they care much. I could see a townie with that attitude if they were pseudo conftown, tho

Because while my instinct is to omgus it I think I'm a really poor push for scum Gamma to make here.

I keep thinking this, and honestly it only makes sense to me if Gamma is trying to preserve this current POE upon their death. Like, gamma!scum wants to push and look solvey, but doesn't wanna spew any of our current top contenders town if they go down? That's thin, tho. Idk.

Woah wait where are the freedom votes coming from?

Basically I think his posts since replacing in have seemed frozen. He's around but I never get the sense he's trying to eliminate mafia

Do you disagree with my reasoning? Who should I be voting instead

I guess I see it. He's giving nice boy energy so I never thought to reexamine, because once again scum + traitor hood would be ridic

I should probably take a look at some other games of his

Did you ever do this?

do fuck all (sorry Johnny)

Is chill friend

everyone's already town reading him so he's just coasting

This is along the lines I was thinking

Ausuka; Scamper
Datisi
Gamma
Johnny; Marci; Freedom

Alex and I were once bitter rivals and now we have the same reads. Wtf.

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As for my own defense (if you wanna call it that) I can say I've been steadily getting busier over the past week or so and I'm genuinely sorry I can't dedicate as much time as I did d1.

My role, claimed as it is, has very little function at this point, unless you feel like having me test the VTs, so if we wanna vote me off I can see that being the play. I don't wanna get to Elo only for my play to be the reason town loses.

Marci is getting a huge botd from Aussie and Alex here, just blasting a Datisi scumread outta nowhere, and I don't understand their patience there?

Fully off an Alex vote. Won't do it. I follow the logic too much. My readslist is his reads list

Scamper is thinking outside the box, questioning the right reads and just being townie in general. I'd bet the game on Scamper town

Ausuka's shining beacon of towniness dimmed a little, but that was probably because of illness. I don't see any reason to vote there

Gamma I still think makes sense as scum based on that first wagon. Would be willing to vote but i'm also a sucker for genuine apologies and I like Gamma for coming clean about their attitude coming outta that last game. Idk. I'm a waffle.

Freedom is really... stale? Like I was ready to come in here and be like claimed townies that are townread sometimes lose their will to play, but then he started posting and it's all just... there? I'm underwhelmed. There's no smoking gun here but I could see scum not wanting to fuck with anything if our top wagons are off base rn

Datisi seems tired. I don't disagree with Marci here, I waz really feeling scum!Dats in my gut. Is it possible that they're taking credit for a vig that's not theirs? Could STD have killed Crez?

Marci seems like they're rolling dice to form their reads. I can't imagine why scum

would

do that, tho. It's just suboptimal play from both sides, not really sure how to proceed.

If there's not a scum between Dats, Marci and Freedom I'll be surprised. I think Dats and Marci as partners would be really fun.

PEdit - o hi Aus

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This is bananas to me just because scum in a hood with the traitor sounds wild. Like, really wild.

In a game with an ascetic miller even night mailman, simple combined doctor voyeur and complex novice non consecutive night friendly neighbour, that's what you have an issue with?

This is true, idk why I'm getting stuck on it

[JohnnyFarrar]

Lol

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm genuinely embarrassed

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So ya if I had my druthers I'd vote Freedom, Marci, or Dats here, interested in discussing before committing because I clearly can't read anyway

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ok I getcha

VOTE: Freedom

Freedom's play is the most scum indicative here. My gut points to Dats, but I don't have the energy to push that through

[JohnnyFarrar]

Lol

[JohnnyFarrar]

Bruh I just imagined a while vig don't worry abt looking dumb

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't like ur butt

[JohnnyFarrar]

We do this with 1 day left??

Do we want me to protect a VT or test a claim overnight?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Marci next time somebody makes you feel dumb lemme know we'll fight em together

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I think Freedom's the winning vote here

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why would scum Marci kill town datisi?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Because more people TR Datisi?

Idk I was almost coming around to voting dats

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey, I protected scamper. He was the one among those I

could

protect who seemed like a likely target

[JohnnyFarrar]

I am also garbage at setup spec but I will say this is the most useless I've felt as doc maybe ever. Like, maybe I could test a VT claim or something? Idk

I think I'm pretty much betting the game on scamper/Ausuka town here. I'm just stuck on the rest.

I really just don't wanna lose to like Gamma/Alex here if Marci isn't scum. Both have seemed like the right vote at different points this game.

Ima go look at votes brb

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Posting this as I go in case I run out of spoons

Just going by the VCs on d1

Gamma/Alex is a possibility, both are absent for significant parts of the day, they spend very little time on the same wagons ever. Gamma

does

vote Alex really early for a minute, tho. Hmmmm

Marci/Alex is unlikely, Alex votes Marci and stays there for several days, Marci literally stays on Dats all day

Gamma/Marci I guess could work, like gamma/alex they aren't ever in the same place, but those two hydra together and I would expect more.... energy from both? If they were scum together? Is that wild to think?

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D2 VCs are short and unreliable. The only serious wagons seem to be the one on me and the one on Bella, not a lot to analyze there. Worth noting that Alex and Gamma were both on me

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Aaaaand D3 features Gamma and Marci voting each other. I fully don't believe those two are on a team.

This means I'm back where I started, Alex is scum with either Marci or Gamma. Gotta be.

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Yeah but Gamma and Marci were so lifeless about it yesterday. Like, those two are familiar with each other, I can't imagine them voting each other in such a boring way if they were scum

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I guess I could buy Marci being nervous in that kind of theatrical role.... idk I don't know them too well

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When you put it like that it's not as wild sounding to me

P-edit actually wow

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey ho, haven't read but i'm here. Got some helpful deets if anyone's interested

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Alexcellent has been killed night 4

This was not on my scum bingo card. I thought for sure it was aussie or scamper biting it (if not myself)

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Helpful deets sounds interesting yes

I targeted Gamma last night and can confirm their vanilla-ness

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God I hate Elo

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Trying to think of how to clear people to assuage paranoia

Gamma/scamper isn't the team because they coulda quick hammered in two directions

Scamper scum probably doesn't ask you guys to unvote multiple times. Also scamper scum doesn't scum hunt hard and lead a wagon in the traitor d1.

When I think of Gamma in this game it's a big fog of eh. Can't remember anything they've done honestly.

Ausuka I've just been sitting on this townread for so long and... like why haven't you been killed? Blahhhhhh

Marci just blurts out reads for no reason and gets real shook real often and I can't believe we let her live to Elo

[JohnnyFarrar]

Like in my head I want it to be Marci but even if it is and we're right how do we find her partner?

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Scamper scum probably doesn't ask you guys to unvote multiple times. Also scamper scum doesn't scum hunt hard and lead a wagon in the traitor d1.

Why not?

Also I can pretty much assure you that scamper is capable of efforting and looking very towny as scum frankly

Like in my head a scum in that situation just kinda vibrates and waits for a quick hammer.

And idk I've not played with scamper before

[JohnnyFarrar]

Scamper scum probably doesn't ask you guys to unvote multiple times. Also scamper scum doesn't scum hunt hard and lead a wagon in the traitor d1.

Why not?

Also I can pretty much assure you that scamper is capable of efforting and looking very towny as scum frankly

Like I think there are some good arguments for scamper town here, I think their interactions with Marci d1 were good and I'm not trying to establish a standard where nothing scamper does can be towny because they're good at the game

But "scamper scum doesn't effort" just seems simply... False

I'm not trying to say the effort itself is town indicative, I'm saying it seems to genuinely come from a place of concern for the town's win con

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Ok gut read on each partner option

Marci/Aus - no. If y'all do what you've been doing all game as scum together congrats on the win. And your oscars will be in the mail.

Marci/Scamper - Scamper is like, in and out when he posts in a way that I could see the two of them playing like this as partners. I can imagine Marci posting a bunch and then Scamper coming in tryna be a gentle coach and Marci getting all nervous and clamming up for a stretch, then rinse and repeat

Marci/Gamma - Still gut reading this as a no just because it's boring and I would hope those two would have more synergy as scum.

Aus/Gamma - Sort of wild to think about, Gamma has seemed like openly hostile to Aus a lil. Gut says no, but if one flips scum it is worth a revisit

Aus/Scamper is the absolutely wildest answer to me just because they both came outta the gate so townie

I don't think there's any way I vote ausuka here today

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm talking myself into Marci here. I just can't imagine a scum team without her

[JohnnyFarrar]

Thought if I caught someone in a lie and lived it'd make today easier. Didn't have a huge reason for Gamma over Marci or Alex.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I had a good day and I'm here now.

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Johnny I feel like you kinda flipped your reads on me and scamper around very quickly and as much as I prefer things this way I'm curious what changed?

I was legit thinking out loud. Elo paranoia makes me suspicious of everyone, but when I lay out all the information the answer I arrive at os gamma/Marci. You don't make sense as partners with anyone and Scamper really only makes sense with Marci.

I understand I'm also a question mark to y'all, but I don't have that problem. There's no way Marci isn't scum here.

[JohnnyFarrar]

os

is*

Also I'm around if anyone wants to think, I can be a sounding board or whatever

[JohnnyFarrar]

Johnny I feel like you kinda flipped your reads on me and scamper around very quickly and as much as I prefer things this way I'm curious what changed?

I was legit thinking out loud. Elo paranoia makes me suspicious of everyone, but when I lay out all the information the answer I arrive at os gamma/Marci. You don't make sense as partners with anyone and Scamper really only makes sense with Marci.

I understand I'm also a question mark to y'all, but I don't have that problem. There's no way Marci isn't scum here.

Huh, I mean, I suppose that makes sense? You're a difficult read

Do you mind sharing more about Marci/gamma read? I thought you were on Marci/scamper? I don't want to rule out Marci/gamma, I mean Datisi liked that solve and he's better at the game than I am but like at the end he townread Gamma I think, and I also townread Gamma right now for reasons I think I've explained. Like, at points he's felt like really self righteously frustrated with me and I'd be impressed if that was fake. And I think the reason I'm alive is that scum probably thought Gamma was going to vote me.

I guess my thought process just isn't going that deep right now, when I look at who's left there is no pairing that makes sense without Marci in it. Scamper or Gamma

could

be the partner. I think Gamma is more likely because Scamper is pretty townie, but I think Scamper has more partner equity with Marci specifically

[JohnnyFarrar]

In theory, yeah, but that's assuming the scum kill isn't wild again.I thought you were gonna die last night but then it was Alex.

Might be worth looking into who had the most to gain from the night kills at this point, actually

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't recall ever seeing Gamma in Elo either

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm all but certain it's Marci here

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Marci

[JohnnyFarrar]

Pagetop

[JohnnyFarrar]

Pagetop

Who'd have thought I could fail this hard -_-

[JohnnyFarrar]

This is the first time I've lived to Elo in... 2 years? I don't recommend it

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh it was me

[JohnnyFarrar]

I missed it entirely, I said as much in the scum chat but I wasn't gonna argue with getting cleared for it

[JohnnyFarrar]

My online status isn't much to go by, I always have a tab open on my phone so I think it just says I'm online every time I launch my phone browser

[JohnnyFarrar]

I try to let alts exist without outing them, I feel like they are alts for a reason.

That said I also thought you were koba d1

[JohnnyFarrar]

Or just a regular neighbor. Sorry freedom!

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeah IoA is a hell of the drug when the I is privileged