LOST: Kissing Siblings?

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Hey Toog,
Got it.

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I have wiki'd Boone and Shannon.
Lol.

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I have zero knowledge of lost btw.
It was popular and therefore I was too cool to watch it.

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Holy shit there are 26 people in this game.

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House 42.

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Feels nice to shit post.

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Pooky always tries to start a cult when he starts his games.
But he’s been scum
Like 5/7 times when he tries to start his cults.

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I should probably learn my lesson from invictus and not give out all my reads in a PT.

@STD: can I have a notes PT?

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*struggles*

I’ll do it, but like. I don’t know your alignment and you’re leaning heavily on this.

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You basically asked for a pass in thread.
One you don’t deserve based on what I know of your role.

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Precisely.

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Take care Toog.
Sorry. I wasn't comfortable with your approach but wasn't comfortable pushing you either.

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Hi Taly,
It's fine. I don't mind. Actually. I don't even see much like a negative to it.
Mostly, I just would prefer to have drawn more NK's by being annoying but.
Oh well. and I mean. I didn't find it likely that the scum team didn't know anyway.

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Snoopy gifs help a lot.
I forgive much with snoopy gifs.

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1. I'm an omguser at heart. Sure they were dunked on as incorrect by Luke and they are incorrect, but they aren't changing their mind based on their most recent post.
2. I don't really understand why they're attacking one of the most active players in the game who can be read correctly eventually anyway. Mostly it just looks like they're uninterested in meta.
3. I think it makes sense for them to dislike people who are invested in thread control. They're attributing manipulation to my actions but the spoiler there is that I'm about as manipulative as scum as a wet rag. I don't manipulate. I just try to fit whatever they think makes people town.
4. In this case I'm just going from player to player pushing them. Sadly everybody I push is having RL stuff going on. So Dwlee flunked out for me and I won't push there yet.

Enchant seems okay so far, but god knows I can't read that one, but I don't want that one to die.

I think it's interesting, that Pooky asked for a mass read's list which the scum team will obviously use so if they don't do something with it I'm going to start attacking them.

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Pretty much, I can't tell which players dislike me and which ones are scum.

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I'd say "but what if they just logically think you're scum"
Well, they're wrong so their logic is incorrect at a fundamental level.

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...Why aren't you asking me to post this in the thread instead?

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I'm just gunna sit here and pay attention to you.

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*stare*

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Brain fried didn't go to bed until 2.

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I don't really desire to taste your blood.
Well, maybe a little.

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For science.

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I've made plenty of posts in the main thread though and tbh, I'm pretty much auto-binned as town by the people that can read me and I will argue pretty hard with them to back me up if they get wibbly wobbly.

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Oh, it's not a threat of popularity, I just mean I'll prbably scum read people and have a lead if they're more wishy-washie than they ought to be.
They don't get to say I'm an easy sort and then not push back when obvious town is about to die on them.

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That'd be AI.

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With BBT I can't tell yet.

I'm seeing: Town that wants to challenge the status quo who is a bit flippant.
I'm seeing: Scum who is trying on bravado in a reaction to pressure.

I know they roll with bravado as town when pushed as a replace slot.
I think it just depends on the direction they go here or what they plan to do.
It's probably worth it to see what kind of trejectory they take and whether their reads form naturally. So far, I can't really tell.

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Hi umbra, sol, taly.

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It doesn't bother me.
I feel guilty for being suspicious and not trusting but I know what happens when I trust out of blind faith.
Just be yourself in thread and we're cool if you're town.
I'm boring.

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Town hunting d1 is fine.

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Mathblade’s posts infuriate me I can’t objectively read them.

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I'm all bugged out and keep vascilitating between klick, PP, Rag, MB, JF, BBT, Dwlee, C&G.

The Rag being the most active.

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I’m just going to wait for roden to see what, if any, steps. They’ve taken or what they want to do. I don’t see a significant issue with their claim unless they do something super suspicious.

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I encouraged you to post and you didn’t really do much.

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Makes sense as either alignment.

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holy shit

oth/tbone/luke/pooky/rad

all flipped on

ceph

OTH didn't really flip on them though. They didn't really have a position to begin with, Neither did Rad. They were already No votes.

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, who do you think I'm getting snowed by? tbh i feel like several of my defenders could be pocketing me in some manner.

i ask mainly because

tbone

suggested

drap/pooky/nancy

and i want a perception check

i also want to hear you talk about

OTH's

push on you being scum in lieu of defending me.

its also odd that

math

spent time trying to find

rce's

justification for the

ceph

vote but quickly pivoted back onto me the moment

luke

gave reasoning to vote me.

im really not feeling the

tbone

masterminding

ceph's

choices like

pooky

is implying? ill have to read back onto that

i still strongly believe

nancy/titus

are town, do you disagree?

2. The only thing I felt is mildly insulted when GE pushed at me, so I decided largely to ignore it. It's clear I don't really like being suspected and have little interest in jumping a particular player's hoops. I didn't dig because in general when I dig into GE it takes time that I don't have the patience for right now.
3. From a post to post angle I can't see scum T-bone, their posts are relatively relatable and they aren't always aiming for understanding/writing for an audience. However from a larger perspective I can see it in their mild reach outs and shifts in angles in their approaches to me. They pushed at first before becoming relatively benign. Pooky isn't wrong that they never did hard push anyone and while there's some evidence of solving there isn't much like unguarded posts from them either. I'm not sure if they're afraid of criticism or just waiting for something to come to them or they're afraid of taking a stance as scum and just want to appear somewhat harmless and funny. I find the arguments for MB and Frog more compelling. I can't help but think Pooky is wrong on one of them, but I don't know.

4.I don't. I think Nancy is town because their personality traits have been consistent with how they seem to play. They're vulnerable to buddying. Flattery and they take sides they shouldn't be taking. But that's a conversation for never. I've been frustrated and then calmed myself down a lot with them this game and just let them spam insistently about their position without antagonizing them for arguing.

im still very confident with

ceph

scum, i dont see the justification for town that people have outlined so far. even if this gladiate was not targeted to protect a scumbuddy in danger, it felt weird that

ceph

kept this supicion on my slot for majority of the dayphase without ever pushing it

and in fact pushed

johnny

instead but pivoted back onto me.

it feels disingenuous, especially in light of

ceph

taking fault of my post 1580 which was a reply to

johnny

.

i still feel like

johnny's

got +1 townpings but they have lacked presence in this thread so far.

1. Ceph tends to be pretty mild D1 if they can get away with it as either alignment really. I think their shadowing and trajectories make a general sort of sense.
2. Johnny doesn't make sense to me some of his posts seem purposely sarcastic because it doesn't make sense for them to make those posts unless they were making fun of someone. They've also been hard active lurking without contributing they have a significant number of page tops, they've followed the whole game and done almost nothing with it.

im feeling slightly calmed with

Luke

? like i dont think hes a buddy to

ceph

in any reality because of how much he's willing to ride the fence and find a lim.

in a vacuum, that perspective can be scum-indicative but i think scum likely has a preferred gladiate elimination, especially in the reality of

ceph

!scum

i have reservations about your alignment but since you've given interest in getting my opinions, i want to work together.

I am interested in other people's views.

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I don't think Lukewarm is scum because his ego is showing. Their frustration does not seem performative and scum doesn't give a shit in this situation deep down anyway.

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I know I just said a whole thing about how it's game zone time and the whole world's a stage.
But I have difficulty imagining Pooky scum including Nancy in an apology about the spam.

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Yay, I read Cephrir correctly.
It's a shame I lacked the will power to save them.

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hey

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sorry for not getting to this ASAP, my mental health dipped today and im on VLA for several IRL reasons.

i read

ceph's

townflip ill have to rethink my whole solve, i feel bad and disappointed that my presence this game has been a far cry from productive for town.

can you compile any questions you got so when i get to this tomorrow, i can share input on any and everything?

Would you apologize like this if you were scum?

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No, I mean, it's a general policy for me to ask for people's death reaads I usually half-listen to them.

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I think Pooky didn't like T-bone making light and having insuffcient analysis for the game state along with in general not making hard pushes and in some cases, just being dishonest in their statements, for example their regret that they didn't push harder, but there wasn't much like any push to T-bone.

I do deal almost exclusively with raging Pooky scum though. I'm a little surprised he didn't call me out for not instantly scum reading them for their outburst.

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T-bone is to Pooky what Johnny Farrar is to me.
In terms of "players that are here intentionally avoiding taking stances, asking innocuous questions and largely doing nothing with them"

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Is one possible explanation anyway. my automatic unthinking reaction is raging Pooky = Pooky scum.
But to be honest, it only really makes sense if you're scum with them.

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I'm not sure how voting Cephrir would incriminate you more given people were largely fed up and there were some critically dead slots that weren't voting.

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I don't think Nancy's stances are unusual for them.
Titus's Roden vote post mason claim appears genuinely anti-town

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I find it pretty common for Gamma to dive tackle random people when there are wagons happening but not really engage much with the wagon itself.
It could be Shade tho. You've probably played with them more than me, but I find what Gamma did here relatively in line with them. This doesn't make them town. It just means they're in character.

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I've seen hydra partners with Nancy lean on them significantly as scum too tho.

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I've been linked one game where Pooky had a Meltdown as town before. It honestly seemed fairly similar.

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I agree that the suspicion on you won't die if you don't go out there and do what you're doing in here. Grass is always greener etc.

When Johnny said you were obvtown after a fairly benign post, I pretty much did a triple take and have been weighing whether it was sarcastic, meant to piss off the crowded that was triggered by Nancy calling you obvtown with the thinnest of rationales and an unwillingness to repeat them. Whether it was a snipe at Nancy because they is agreed, they were informed and just creating ambiguity for later if you flipped town or scum etc.

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I was fairly frustrated so I stopped myself from writing multiple variations of are you kidding me? But I should have investigated their post and forced them to answer.

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Super inconvenient I'd have to go find the game and then go find the post where it was linked.
I meant similar to their scum melt downs. I still reserve the right to try to spot the difference between their scum and town melt downs.

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I lean town on this one, but it's not as strong as I would like.

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I mean, it was situation in which my preferred elim got derailed as a minority exerted thread control through spam, AtE and "Taly is obv town" and largely argued for a sub optimal outcome of a no lim in an ambiguous situation
Like, Nancy didn't even know if you aTe'd as scum but felt confident enough to advocate for you making every page a battle for control of the narrative. They campaigned for you and ignored unwritten rules of general discourse.
That can be frustrating.

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I don't really think Mathblade is genuine when they hesitated to reveal that scum might role block Dunn/Frog and kill the other. It's too simple for them. They can come up with some very convoluted hypotheses about games, roles, and player behaviors esp as town.
This isn't that.

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Some. I don't think it's unusual for people to consider role blockers/strongmans/other measures etc. I just find it implausible that if the scum team had the tools on hand they wouldn't have considered it because it makes the assumption that the scum team are a bunch of 10 year olds playing mafia for the first time and even they would likely figure it out after a little discussion and prompting from a teacher. or 11 year old.

I'm aware of Nancy's general history on the site. I've spent some time and been careful to side step the pitfalls that most players fall in when interacting with her. Lukewarm fell into one or two.

Mathblade usually brings up the "I think I know the scum team's plan or the possibility of one, but I can't talk about it least I do the work for them"
Almost every game I've been in with them actually. This one just seems off because the scale is totally different

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Most of the time their arguments are hyper complex and very unlikely. in this vein, especially. Every-time they do the "I dunno guys what if scum do this, but I'm afraid to say more" people pester them for an answer and everytime when they reveal the reasoning most players roll their eyes and are like "Yeah, that's super unlikely though." and I've never actually seen them be right on these reveals. So I dunno why they keep doing that as either alignment really.

Like in one game Mathblade hypothesized that Spiffeh and I were scum partners because I was a *MASON INVENTOR* with ANOTHER MASON that was outted already. It was impressive in its convolution.

Here they warn us that there's no knowing what damage could be done if we give scum the answer that 2+2 = 4.

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Probably CSF, Dwlee, Roden. Luke.
Nancy just below.
pooky below that. Currently. But I tend to change on a dime with that one.
Klick far below that but still in town read land. Sort of.

I think it would be worthwhile to try to sort PD. Right now I lean town based on approach but it’s hard to sort the hyper competitive ones.

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I don’t think it’s weird at all to scum read frog here.
I didn’t read your case for ceph scum.

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It’s actually a lot easier for you to interpret the game state there because you know you’re town.

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It should probably be a larger POE.
I don’t know why you don’t have Mathblade in your solve.

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Whenever I roll town I'm usually shitfighting with 75-90% of the game trying to sort people. Tis a risky business, bring a battle axe.

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Coffee icecream.

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I don't like coffee at all though, it makes me want to throw up. I only rarely drink any.

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Huh. I just realized it doesn’t look like there’s a co-mod for this game.

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How long are honey moons typically.

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"I got married,
sorry for the delay!"

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Let's have our own honey moon and find out

I love coffee lol. But I put a lot of creamer in mine.

I don’t but when I have coffee I do the same and dump a lot of creamer in it.
My problem is simply that I get nauseous when i drink it.

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Reviewed Rad’s iso. They look better. But not sure still.

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They seem comfortable with figuring things out in their own time,
Weak lean town. /: mmm

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I didn't really follow the reasons behind that slot being scum or suspicious, or really remember who pushed them.

I've consistently liked their posts or at least found nothing suspicious. Especially when

Rad

disapproved of how destructive the dialogue during the gladiate was becoming. In my experience, it's more likely town to convey grievances with environment because I've seen scum players exploit confrontation as a strategy.

I’ve seen both. Sometimes they do that precisely for that reason, to get town read for expressing a relatable opinion. I don my think that’s the case here. But I’m not confident in it.

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They’re a Mason.

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Not bad opening questions Taly.

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That's good imo.

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This is just a repeat of yesterday tbh. *irked*

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I'm seeing like 5 people give takes about what the flips yesterday mean out of 23 players.
Not good.

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Now we get to play the "was math bussing his partner" game.

Also, the amount of aggression coming out of me from a single correct read is just so sad.

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Clearly I need to get more correct eliminations so I don't feel this happy and simultaneously pathetic for killing someone who literally wasn't here to defend themselves.

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Taly are you coming back or still taking a health break?