Open 861: The Turing Test [game over]

[kutiplz]

Hiya hes, shes, and they

Second non hydra game on here let's gooooo

[kutiplz]

Sup guilty lion, long time no see

[kutiplz]

So who knows each other on this player lists,

[kutiplz]

I dunno you

[kutiplz]

Kuti are you Sabi from MafiaU?

Yes ma'am the one and only

[kutiplz]

Are you Ari. (with a. Period)

[kutiplz]

yes!

I missed playing with you <3

OMG hi. I missed you too.

I'm temp banned from there so I'm bouncing around different sites and koba convinced me to play on here

[kutiplz]

We are currently in rvs so nothing is pinging me as awkward or stiff in an uncomfortable mafia way yet.

How do I share photos

[kutiplz]

lol what did you get temp banned for.

Nothing related to toxicity or anything bad

[kutiplz]

Furtive glance and anyone else,

Want to share your old games so I can get a feel of how you play as either alignments

:curtain:

[kutiplz]

idk what the optimal way to play it is but i just know that town!you would be thinking about it

wouldn't scum!Ari be thinking about how town!Ari would play and how town!Ari would think about it? I don't think this is a town indicative thing

shhhh im letting her pocket me

i think its slightly town indicative. i don't think that ari's main priority as scum is to match how she'd play as town, and i don't think most people would really would have that reaction or that she would expect them to. so if it was performative it was a very directed performance

Why are you trying to pocket her

[kutiplz]

they seem to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek

but the random town reads from Aristeia make me uneasy, especially in this setup

this sounds like a post made by someone who feels obligated to start posting real content but doesn't really have much to say yet

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Do you believe this is due to AI programming, or a simple human instinct?

Is this going to be a game long gimmick

[kutiplz]

Furtive glance and anyone else,

Want to share your old games so I can get a feel of how you play as either alignments

:curtain:

I don't really like this

kutiplz have you gotten any value out of reading cold meta in the past?

Yep I like to do this when I'm new to sites so I can familiarize myself about how people play and their micro tells like sentence/word/behavioral tells

[kutiplz]

Hi Dann, *waits politely to the side*

You can view old games by clicking on the player name then going to view topics and it will show you all the places they've posted in, most of which should be games unless they're social.

Fair enough, I just assume people play on sites outside of ms

[kutiplz]

Basically reading how people play helps me read them better so. I'm not misunderstanding them due to play style reasons. I think I make sense to people that aren't me?

[kutiplz]

Spoiler:

We are currently in rvs so nothing is pinging me as awkward or stiff in an uncomfortable mafia way yet.

How do I share photos

Furtive glance and anyone else,

Want to share your old games so I can get a feel of how you play as either alignments

:curtain:

idk what the optimal way to play it is but i just know that town!you would be thinking about it

wouldn't scum!Ari be thinking about how town!Ari would play and how town!Ari would think about it? I don't think this is a town indicative thing

shhhh im letting her pocket me

i think its slightly town indicative. i don't think that ari's main priority as scum is to match how she'd play as town, and i don't think most people would really would have that reaction or that she would expect them to. so if it was performative it was a very directed performance

Why are you trying to pocket her

they seem to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek

but the random town reads from Aristeia make me uneasy, especially in this setup

this sounds like a post made by someone who feels obligated to start posting real content but doesn't really have much to say yet

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Do you believe this is due to AI programming, or a simple human instinct?

Is this going to be a game long gimmick

I'm going to be honest none of these posts or the bolded questions inside of them really feel like genuine thoughts to me. Or rather, they are very surface level questions pushed out so that you have something to say

I'm not really getting the sense you actually want the answers to any of these questions nor that you hope some productivity will spark out of them. I might be being unfair if this is a strategy you've relied on in the past but the first one especially pings me because it strikes me as highly unlikely that anyone would be able to get reasonable value out of trawling through past games of a bunch of players they are unfamiliar with

as the very first step

to getting to know them. It seems like a way to seem productive but actually avoid having to prod people about this game. Instead it would seem more natural to me if you were prodding people about this game.

granted, you are doing that too... sorta. but "how to post photos" and the "is this going to be a game long gimmick" are both questions that like don't really require an answer, or I'm not sure what value you're hoping to gain by posting them in thread

i also find the part of the fireisred's post that you latched onto like the least interesting part because it seems clearly jokey

Yes we are in RVS and you claim nothing has been pinging you as off - but that means I expect your following questions to be trying to prod people that you think are off or just trying to get people out of their comfort zone, but I feel like I'm seeing more just posts to fill space

pedit:

it is very possible your playstyle is more fluffy here and I am misreading you based off that. how would you describe how you're trying to play this early game?

You can check my previous game on ms (is it loaded?) where I was town. I am very fluffy day one because I like conversation. I also asked about people's old games and what not because I do in fact read old games. It takes me a day or two to get comfortable in a game to start pushing on people.

[kutiplz]

I'm new to this site and like to be aware of people's playstyles. Shoot me for that.

[kutiplz]

Here I am asking the same question in my previous ms game

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13453350

[kutiplz]

Previous game GL provided old games. I read them. Figured out he was towny and sheeped his reads which lead to me helping town win and going 2/2 on vig shots on scum

So yes I do need this for my playstyle

[kutiplz]

Meow me a river.

Also, that is the cutest avatar. I cannot tel if that is an actual cat or a doll.

Thank you, it's a cute cat.

What is your experience with the players in this player list

[kutiplz]

do you have any impressions of any players yet? if not anything pinging you scummy has anything struck you as towny? or not really anything at all yet

Fire feels very natural and fluid so far, nothing towny yet since it's been NAI content.

Waiting for GL to do something AI so I can sheep if he's towny again.

Ari, I have only played turbos and one mash with, hasn't really given anything AI related. Her shit posting doesn't feel awkward.

I honestly can't read people that do gimmicks so I'm already annoyed at that slot.

I do like the pressure you are applying to me.

That's all I got so far.

[kutiplz]

interesting

I am skeptical of the value of cold meta versus personal history with someone when it comes to returning anything alignment indicative but I won't argue the point

I mean when you are new to a playerlist, you gotta take cold meta and it clearly helped me in my last game. I rather get myself familar with players than have no idea about them.

[kutiplz]

meh, okay. I'm not going to lie and say I have any more stronger impressions than you do.

I apologize if I came off as somewhat abrasive but you're a newer player (I think?) and I was hoping you might panic a little bit if I laid it on somewhat thick. and I think it's ever so mildly towny that you didn't just start making up reads on people because I put some pressure on you

I think I'm still most scared of Aristeia for handing out free town reads to Kutiplz and GL

I only played three games on ms but one was a hydra so I don't count that one. This is my second solo game on here. It's just a routine I do when I'm trying to get used to players so I apologize that it seems like I'm asking for games as busy work when I really am not.

Wait Ari gave me a townread? Why does that scare you

[kutiplz]

Kuti, I tried to find your Sabi (?) account on MU and couldn't find it. Is it still there?

I'm Kuti plz (there's a space)

Here are my previous games. I also have a syndicate game I finished if you want me to add it

So who knows each other from the playerlist and what's yall experience levels and what not.

Links to old games as both alignments would be appreciated. I can do the same as well.

I know no one from this player list. As for experience, I played a few games here a couple of years back and that's about it.

Games in question:

[url=ttps://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81548]Newbie 1973[/url] - Town
Newbie 1976 - Scum
Newbie 1983 - Town
Newbie 1988 - Town
Newbie 1991 - Scum

The newest game on this list is 2+ years old by now, so I'm not sure how relevant these will be in regard to my current playstyle, cause it's bound to have changed since my last game, despite not having played at all for the last 2 years. Still, I'm pretty sure there's useful stuff in there.

What about you?

I have played around year. Started in 2021.

I'm not going to link my one mafia game in MU because I'm ashamed of my extreme ate and deeply embarrassed by it. My other homesite is webdip and I can link those games with my iso:

First time randing mafia, multiball, I end gamed into a draw (1-1-1)

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... f=4&t=3784 game link
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... sharamSabi my iso

Second mafia rand, normal, mafia sweep and won

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... f=4&t=3915 game link
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... sharamSabi my iso

Here are my mu town games:
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/35684
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/35591
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/36308
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/36135
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/35929

I'm Kuti plz in mu

[kutiplz]

Wait Ari gave me a townread? Why does that scare you

yknow what I completely mixed you up with KittyTacky

I was like Ari only talked about me in three post and it was just about my identity and mu lol

[kutiplz]

Dann I hope you read my old games

[kutiplz]

GL I think I'm ready to sheep you again part2

[kutiplz]

Vivax hi

[kutiplz]

Vivax hi

Hey there!
Didn't quite understand the exile, but we meet again. Hope you're doing well.

Mods gonna mod

[kutiplz]

Hi I had the worst migraine yesterday but I'm here and I'm catching up.

What is the roden case for the wagon?

[kutiplz]

Hiya hes, shes, and they

Second non hydra game on here let's gooooo

Oh, I know you from MU. We played together there. Welcome to MS.

Wait who are you

[kutiplz]

Wait the case on roden was that they were emotional?

[kutiplz]

Hi sorry I forgot about this game

[kutiplz]

kuti has 32 posts and i counted like, maybe 2 opinions total

hi kuti i would like to hear some more opinions plz

If I remember correctly, you really like to base your reads off meta. I have played with

kutiplz

on MU and my impression is that they sound no different to what they did in the games I've played with them on that site.

ive looked at a few of their games and the tone is similar yes but the level of content is not

I just forgot the game. I am going to catch up right now and give my opinions. Again I'm sorry

[kutiplz]

Kuti PLZ!!

While I'm catching up can you give me your takes on the wagons

[kutiplz]

I stopped reading at page 19 so I'm going to be catching up from there.

[kutiplz]

Vivax seems less witty than usual.

Nothing to say on the actual substance of Vivax's posts?

There's not much of it. The thing with

Vivax

is he likes to troll around. In this game he seems to be more invested and defensive, which I think for him is a bad sign.

Do I?
I believed I had many faces in games. That's the point of playing it isn't it?

This reminds me, Greeting shading Vivax without showing a desire to vote them makes me happy with both as scumreads.

I like this post. Could see myself voting RR today.
I wonder if Kuti would agree.

why do you think that post comes from town and not scum?

and why did you bring up Kuti specifically?

I do agree with GL that roden post is pretty NAI since emotional posting tends to be neutral.

Also Vivax why are you constantly bringing me up. I vanity searched and like why me.

[kutiplz]

Oh and I asked Kuti cause I thought they'd like to be asked about their opinion and the read on Greeting could prove useful down the line.

My read so far in greeting/west is like I kinda don't like their attempt at buddying me. We had only played two games and idk if that makes them an expert on my meta since I play low activity in ms.


Besides the buddying, from what I have read so far, I have them as town lean ish vibes

[kutiplz]

And I'd add that if kuti is mafia (seems less vocal from what I'd expect from them as town), them not replying to me asking about that could be from a situation where they'd have to commit to agreeing with a mafia teammate (Greeting). Might stem from them being nervous about looking like that. But I can't dismiss other reasons.

I'm just not active in ms games truth be told. Look at my last ms game and the Hydra.

But no i dont think greeting is mafia. Weird they and you keep focusing on me tho

[kutiplz]

Town ish vibes:

GuiltyLion: my first tr of the game, very much like they were in our previous games, just overall a gut and soul read
Loki: feeling good about this slot, their solving is logical (like how they are doing it in the thread), I like the effort to look into Vivax old game. In p#602
Greetign: weakest of the three, I feel like her emotions have been genuine. Dunno how to feel about the buddying
Kitty: weakest of them all, a town lean, their tone is genuine and maybe im weak to it.

Scummy vibes:
Dann: I feel like they kinda fell off since the beginning (I know I'm being a hypocrite)
Ari: I dunno how to feel about them trying to buddy everyone and her post have been agenda driven
Vivax: his tone and what not is not what I'm used to. He doesn't feel towny because he's missing his trademark tinfoil. I am sus of him
VOTE: vivax

[kutiplz]

im a very meh person so maybe i just relate

Vivax is the opposite of meh person tho

[kutiplz]

How much time I left this phase, I am traveling all day to go visit my parents