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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:56 am

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:33 pm

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Oh crud I hope nobody from my last game is here
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:35 pm

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Also /confirm
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:36 pm

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Hi Johnny! Looking forward to playing together! This is my first time playing as Mafia (almost, I had a very short stint I do not remember much about two years ago), so I'll be more than glad for any hints and tips you want to offer! I know we have different playstyles though, no worries and I don't expect you to babysit me unless you want to.

A quick look shows we're playing with marci and Ausuka, who were both in your recently completed scumgame.

Are you a patient? My role PM is something to behold :heart-eyes:
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:48 pm

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Here it is. I think the main point to understand is that it seems like the normal investigative abilities (e.g. Tracker) are "split" between two roles in this game. A Technologist decides who to target, a Radiologist receives the result.

Other highlights are that I can forge two results (which will be seen by a Town Radiologist). I investigate as a non-suspicious Technologist to Role Cop actions, but would investigate as Mafia to any Cop actions.

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Welcome, Aisa, to Micro Theme 1060: Radiology Mafia.
You are a
Mafia Multitasking Technologist
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Technologists perform diagnostic imaging exams and send the results to radiologists who interpret the results.
  • You may perform any number of active abilities each night.
  • Factional Communication
    (Factional, Passive) - You may talk with your partner JohnnyFarrar at any time in this thread.
  • Factional Kill
    (Factional, Active) - Once each night, either you or your partner may attempt to kill a player of your choosing.
  • Diagnostic Imaging Reporting
    (Passive) - All of your results will be sent to a radiologist at the end of the night. If there are multiple radiologists in the game, the recipient is decided in a nonrandom manner decided during setup creation. The radiologist will know what kind of diagnostic exam you performed and who you targeted, but the radiologist will not know the source of the exam. The radiologist also does not know what precisely each exam does until after they interpret the results. Note that if your action fails, no imaging result is sent, so the no result pms are written from the perspective of the radiologist.
  • Informed
    (Passive) - You know that a subset of the following (possibly modified) roles exist in the game: Patient, Radiologist, Technologist, Radiology Nurse, Analyst.
  • Certified
    (Passive) - To any role cop actions, the provided role pm will not include the following sections (in addition to any alignment-related redactions): Informed, Certified, and Imaging Forgery.
  • Imaging Forgery
    (2-Shot, Active Modifier) - Twice per game, you have the option of forging results instead of sending an honest result. This lets you send any result you would like. If you forge a CT exam result, you only need to specify the role; an appropriate role pm will be generated for you.
  • CT Exam
    (1-Shot, Active) - Once per game, you may send a role cop result on a player to a radiologist. Results will include the target's role name and role pm with any alignment information excluded.
    CT Exam SuccessThe examiner determined {Target} is {Role}.
    {Role PM in spoilers}

    CT Exam FailureNo Result: You could not determine the role of {Target}.

  • X-Ray Exam
    (1-Shot, Active) - Once per game, you may send a cop result on a player to a a radiologist. Results will include the target's alignment. Your results are guaranteed to be sane.
    X-Ray Exam InnocentThe examiner determined {Target} is aligned with the
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    X-Ray Exam GuiltyThe examiner determined {Target} is aligned with the
    Mafia
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    X-Ray Exam FailureNo Result: You could not determine the alignment of {Target}.

  • MRI Exam
    (2-Shot, Active) - Twice per game, you may send a tracker result on a player to a radiologist. Results will include anyone that player targeted on the night you performed the exam and which night that was.
    MRI Exam Saw SomeoneThe examiner saw {Target} targeted {X}, {Y}, and {Z} on night {#}.

    MRI Exam Saw NothingThe examiner did not see {Target} target anyone on night {#}.

    MRI Exam FailureNo Result: You could not determine whether {Target} targeted anyone on night {#}.

  • Nuclear Medicine Exam
    (2-Shot, Active) - Twice per game, you may send a role watcher result on a player to a radiologist. The results will include a list of all
    roles
    (not actions) that targeted the target on the night you performed the exam and which night that was.
    Nuclear Medicine Exam Saw SomeoneThe examiner saw {Role A}, {Role B}, and {Role C} target {Target} on night {#}.

    Nuclear Medicine Exam Saw NothingThe examiner did not see any roles target {Target} on night {#}.

    Nuclear Medicine Exam No ResultNo Result: You could not determine which roles (if any) targeted {Target} on night {#}.

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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:36 pm

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Here is some setup speculation. I'll try to keep it to the parts that may be useful if I die early, we can worry about Night Actions during the Night.

We are informed of the following:
You know that a subset of the following (possibly modified) roles exist in the game: Patient, Radiologist, Technologist, Radiology Nurse, Analyst.


I am getting confirmation from Ircher, but I think this means these are the
only
roles that can possibly exist in this game. They may not all exist.

Spoiler: Speculation
  1. Patient = Vanilla.
  2. Radiologist = We know this is the role that receives investigative results.
  3. Technologist = We know this is the role that can perform investigations and gets results sent to a Radiologist.
  4. Radiology Nurse = I think it would make a lot of sense for this to be a Backup Radiologist. (The wiki says Nurse is usually a flavour name for a Backup Doctor. I think it is safe to say the Radiologist-Technologist mechanic is the main mechanic of the game, so it would make sense to have a Backup.)
  5. Analyst = This is harder. Perhaps they can somehow analyse results to see if they are forged?
Assume the setup is Mafia Technologist, Town Technologist, Town Radiologist. My guess is this is scumsided - Town would probably have no way of knowing results can be forged, so the Mafia Technologist can forge a guilty on someone for an instant miselimination. Adding a Backup Radiologist doesn't help. So I think Town have to have some other kind of buff - maybe the Analyst, maybe the Nurse doesn't do what I think it does, maybe someone has a helpful modifier.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:09 am

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I was having a think about possibly useful fakeclaims if we get run up early, but I don't see any claim that will help aside from maaaybe Technologist for me and even that seems iffy. A Patient claim won't help, and any other claim is likely to attract a Technologist investigation during the night if Town has one.

(Ooh, I wonder. What if Town doesn't have a Technologist? That seems pretty freaking scumsided to me, but maybe there's a reason it isn't?)
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:23 am

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Technologist crumb planted: ✔
Town-me channeled: ✔
Frivolous request to distract the townies from actual scumhunting made: ✔
Excuse for behaviour prepared: ✔
Triple checked this is the scum PT: ✔
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:04 am

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Lol you got this Aisa. I'll give little tips here or there but mostly just act natural and you'll be golden. Don't avoid talking to/about me and feel free to vote me whenever, I don't mind.

Also avoid making a rule of three post, just in case
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:22 am

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Got it. Knowing you're in my corner is actually super reassuring! <3

Not sure what you mean by rule of three, is it the triple checking talk?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:16 am

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Nah there's this theory that scum always mention their partner when giving reads in groups of three
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:55 am

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Ok! thanks.

There's soo many directions I could take this in, it's like eeny meeny miney mo.
I could try to hijack the town and mess with everyone's perception of reality by posting a lot :3
I could go for the shitpush that's so bad, it couldn't possibly come from scum
I could just like concentrate on imitating town!Aisa

Everyone just feels like so Pushable and I can't judge which pushes are actually going to be the death of me
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:55 am

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Maybe I'll just like try to make marci scumread Ausuka, that seems like it would be funny
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:18 am

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Do what you think you're capable of. Have fun with it! I tend to just roll with the punches
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:28 am

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<3
Yeah I don't know if I can make marci scumread Ausuka, but I think I should be able to sus Ausuka and get away with it so maybe I'll try just that when the opportunity arises :P

Spoiler: More stuff Ircher told me about the setup
- Confirmed the only 5 roles that can be in this game are Patient, Technologist, Radiologist, Radiology Nurse, Analyst

- I can self-target with Imaging Forgery but not with anything else
-- Which kinda makes sense, because a Town PR wouldn't be allowed to self-target
-- This also means that if I decide to self-target there may be difficulties explaining how I was able to do that later on
- I can use 2 of the same 2-shot ability in the same night
- If my action fails, nothing is sent to the Radiologist. If the Radiologist's action fails, they receive a "no result" PM. (I asked this because I was confused about the wording in my PM).
-- The Radiologist's action is maybe active?!
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:31 am

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...not quite what I meant to do, but this works too as long as they don't end up spewing each other as town to everyone else
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:28 am

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They might, those two have a history
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:41 am

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Ooh what if Juice’s reaction to being put at E-2 is Town PR? I was already sort of mulling pushing a wagon there but that would be extra motivation hehe

Also, hope your infant is ok! (That’s definitely getting repeated in the main thread)
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:22 am

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Sometimes it helps to name your fears (sometimes I will use this thread just to talk to myself).

My number one fear right now is:

I think town!Aisa usually eventually towntells by just being genuine and saying something ridiculous scum wouldn't say. I'm worried that I will forget to set up enough of these moments of spontaneity that in the long term I will just fail to "towntell" and get PoEd. Alternatively I'm worried that I will try too hard to set up a fake towntell and fumble it in the process.

But it's ok! We know that that's a worry so we can take steps to mitigate it. I'll try to have some fun with it, as you say, Johnny.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:26 am

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What also helps me get townread when I'm nervous is just suboptimal scum play. Townread a lhf, stay off an easy wagon, etc. Might help.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:51 am

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In post 159, Juice wrote:Meh - if I have to die for hero gaming so be it
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:01 am

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Ooh interestingly that Ausuka post sussing me is a lot less intimidating when viewed on a computer screen. It's not actually a wall.
In post 19, JohnnyFarrar wrote:What also helps me get townread when I'm nervous is just suboptimal scum play. Townread a lhf, stay off an easy wagon, etc. Might help.
That is true, I'll have a think about how I can do that.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:59 am

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Hmm I suddenly want to write a wall, but who to write it on?
Juice I could do, but I just wrote this:
In post 213, Aisa wrote:I am also keen to see Juice answer the questions xe has been asked.
and if I immediately write a wall it may look inconsistent with me wanting to hear xyr answer.

I also don't realllyyy feel like I can write a wall on Ausuka atp because I'd have to discuss marci v Ausuka and I think we have established we don't want to talk about that for a while

So I'd have to write it on somebody else but then that will look like I am investigating 3 scumreads at a time which is just a record for me

Bahh I'll just go in there and figure something out
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:09 pm

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Sorry I haven't really figured out how to make the suboptimal play here yet. Not forgotten.

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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:59 am

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New day, new me, the train ride today told me to ask Meg questions
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