now watch this be the scum team.In post 504, Juice wrote:Asuka, BBT and Delta Wave I think seem the most town
Mini Normal 2279: VGSR - GAME OVER
Forum rules
- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
gonna vote with my gut for now and see how I feel once I read the rest of the game.
VOTE: AusukaOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
At first, I thought this was pretty scummy it's like
oh this is standard, nothing to see here!but rereading it it's maybe not really scummy but then I felt like she comes off a bit conscious with the lite OMGUS is 38.
I know I'm tunneling a bit but the Frog/Ausuka back and forth on p.3 felt like theatre and his deceleration that Ausuka/inutile are both town made me worry that he knew I was town and Ausuka/inutile both being town was a false dilemma.
I mentioned this in another game and you are correct but ppl nowadays throw out the shade word for anyone that disagrees/criticizes them.In post 87, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Shading can only be done by wolves?
The last time I played with someone that used this as justification for reading a slot they were scum. Not to mention that it's just poor reasoning.In post 99, Frogsterking wrote:I believe Inutile is Town because of their fight with Asuka. Scum are rarely going to square off like that at the beginning of the game.
silly takeIn post 130, Frogsterking wrote:Once I saw Eir and Greeting both voted Ghandi
I would like to see frogs case on Gandhi.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I am super unimpressed.In post 193, Frogsterking wrote:I believe Gandhi is manipulative because they're charismatic.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
ok so, at this point I'm conflicted about how I feel. I didn't find Gandhi scummy and thought that Frogs reasoning was silly but 327 is a little odd. HeWAShere for the first 4 pages so I'm not sure why he's commenting on it. You could maybe make the argument that he's newb scum that tried to lurk off the pressure on him and then come back and voted his attacker.
but also
Frogs unvote is really really weird. If he thinks Gandhi is scum why unvote and join a smaller wagon?
In post 342, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nuclear Gandhi (3): Eiralox, Greeting, Juice
Juice (2): furtiveglance, Frogsterking
maybe in a normal world but not here.In post 560, Mapuche Never Die wrote:Town gets townread by solving the game, not by manipulating other players into believing they are town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
My initial thinking is that
BlueBloodedToffee
furtiveglance
hutmeil
hoppip
Eiralox
Mohab500
Nuclear Gandhi
are all likelier town slots and
Mapuche Never Die
DeltaWave
Frogsterking
Greeting
Ausuka
are on the scummy side.
I might be a little more suspicious of Gandhi now. Before MND replaced in I was thinking "yeah hey Juice could be lurk scum." and clearly I don't like this misread of my slot. I also don't really get
though I guess the alternate reading would be that he doesn't have a hood b/c his scumbuddies would tell them its safe to vote there.In post 551, Mapuche Never Die wrote:If I was not catching up, my vote would be on Intuile.
but he just posted 12 times above this, why do you need to wait for more cotent? What are his good points?In post 557, DeltaWave wrote:Mapuche Never Die - holding off on judgment due to replacementOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
tis a little lacking, yes.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I actually meant your response but sure, my read is lacking and you didn't call me out on this why?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
579 just seemed a bit defensive and aggressive. It's possible that I'm misreading your tone but someone being misread and their response isyour read is lackingjust seems kinda odd to me.
What are your thoughts on my or anyone else's content since your last post?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I still want to know why Frog unvoted Gandi to join a smaller Juice wagon while still scum reading Gandhi.
341, 342Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
you're aligned with the Persian Empire and the OttomansOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
you're aligned with the Persian Empire and the OttomansOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
so good it posted twiceOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
You might be our default elimination mostly b/c you aren't really helping yourself. thoughts?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
no? tbf I still thought Gandi was the leading wagon and he's not helping himself and I don't think most town read him.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
3rd time I've asked thisIn post 619, Nero Cain wrote:I still want to know why Frog unvoted Gandi to join a smaller Juice wagon while still scum reading Gandhi.
341, 342Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
Why would you be productive day 3 and not day 2?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?In post 639, Ausuka wrote:I would be willing to wagon either hutmeil or hoppip.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
its possibleIn post 657, Ausuka wrote:
Have you gotten me confused with someone else??? I have been vocally townreading eiralox and scumreading hoppip for a long timeIn post 656, Nero Cain wrote:Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
admittedly, there was some skimming involved but I was able to read the whole game last night,
My worry here is that Gandhi is "perpetually behind" as a scum tactic rather than actually just being too lazy/busy to catch up.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
no, Ausuka says those are shitty readsOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
why not?In post 665, DeltaWave wrote:we aren't going to eliminate gandhi.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
VOTE: MNDOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
Why not?
It feels like you are active lurking and my vote was partly cast in an attempt to spur you into action. But also thinking back I'm thinking that Juice could maybe have been scum afterall. Like I get that coincidences happen but saying that the RVS just happened to land on someone that was a viable wagon at that point seems a bit iffy to me.
its 2 days and change till deadline and you are still back on p11.
So many are being so useless with their votes.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
but your pace is plodding. You have lots of little posts and it looks like you are trying to make yourself look more active than you really are.In post 702, Mapuche Never Die wrote:I’m not active lurking, I replaced in 2 days ago and now am catching up?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
hey Greeting. You do realize that part of scums jobs is to make "good points" and try to come off as townie? They are going to poke holes and cast doubt on town b/c that like their job. I personally don't think that your reason to town read him is very good. What do you think about my accusation that he's active lurking?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
at least you answered the q unlike Delta.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
how so?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
why you town reading MND and Gandhi. I think you were asked both.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I imagine that scum juice would taste like clam juice.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I just don't really get the hutmeil case. Like I could maybe buy intohe's not being as active as normalbut beyond that its ????
Part of me just feels like voting out MND or Gandhi would be fairly constructive b/c I don't trust Gandhi'sleave me until day 3and I think MND's plodding catchup is fake.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
to you know actually catch up.
I think a lot of his oneliners are unneeded and he could just read the game and give his conclusion. It makes me feel like he's just puffing up his post count to look active.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
this was the vc before Juice voted Gandhi and the argument that was made that the Gandhi vote was RVS and it being on the lead wagon was just a coincidence. I'm not all that sure if I buy that. Given that I think he's active lurking it makes me think this is a scum slot.In post 156, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nuclear Gandhi (3): Eiralox, Greeting, Frogsterking
inutile (3): DeltaWave, Nuclear Gandhi, Mohab500
DeltaWave (2): furtiveglance, BlueBloodedToffee
furtiveglance (1): AusukaOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
hutmeil could be scum I guess.
this is the only thing that kinda is real scummy to me since I think town get more upset when they are misread. But beyond that, it seems like a meta read which I'd p much agree with.In post 526, hutmeil wrote:
I get the vote on me sure. Anything I can answer for you to help ease your mind?In post 518, Ausuka wrote:I checked his meta and while he isn't the most active player - there is *definitely* something missing here.
VOTE: hutmeilOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I get that he replaced in but I don't think being a replace absolves him of any crime. 25 pages doesn't seem like that much but this isn't a novel. He has a bunch of small little one liner that could have just been condensed into 1 or 2 bigger posts so it just feels like he's trying to look really active. I don't think a lot of people really agree with me but that's how I feel. I doubt he would have finished in 44 hours (the deadline before it was frozen)Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
it's frozen now.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
with the deadline frozen we prob shouldn't kill anyone till MND catches up and Mohabs replace does the same.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
ok? was there any reason that we didn't get any posts about it like we did for the first 11 pages? What are your conclusions?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
possibly. Could have already left after 801 or is busy writing a post but it is odd that we got posts about the first 11 pages and then ??? 11-25 doesn't get mentioned at all and he doesn't give his overall conclusions.
getting ragged about his early catchup he go "fuggit, I'm not going to post thoughts anymore."?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
or not not at all, just maybe not as in depthOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
they are clearly an alt.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I figured but you still could have combined those posts into a larger post instead dragging it out of like 40 postsIn post 801, Mapuche Never Die wrote:I haven’t been able to read the game in one sitting.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I forgot what my larger point was here or maybe it was just to question Greeting logic here.
561-scum abandoning a town wagon so they don't look so bad isn't an impossibility.In post 783, Greeting wrote:
Posts like 561, 585, 599, 607, 703, 704 - all have the intention of solving the game imo.In post 739, Ausuka wrote: Anyway, I'm trying to ask where his gamesolving intent is evident? I haven't gotten much of a read out of MND so far.
585-its similar to a point in 566 (which he called weird btw) there's not really a conclusion here, does he think frog was scummy for this like I did?
599-is more like a defense of Frog/Ausuka than scumhunting. Is he scum reading BBT?
607-this might be an ok point. You RVS voted Gandhi on p5 and then said he needed pressure for ??? reason and then you get called out for it. I think it's a valid point but is he scumreading you here?
703/4-I guess this is ok and I guess its tracks with 599/607.
It's possible that my distaste for his catchup style is clouding my judgment as his takes aren't that bad although I like the stuff about you better than his BBT stuff.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I don't know if I'm town reading MND. I don't think Gandhi/MND is an either/or situation if that's what you are asking. I'm suspicious of Gandhi saying that he won't be caught up till day 3.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
KILL IT WITH FIRE!In post 832, Crescent wrote:I'm a kitty. Meow.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I mean MAYBE its just something like a hut/bbt/ and one of hoppip/Eiralox and scum are doing kinda shit all but we'll see.
I sort of don't think Furt would blatantly town read his scum buddy but thats maybe a flip we could consider if the game isn't solved after ^ are flipped. Of course this all depends on hutmeil flipping scum and if he doesn't I think that raises both Furt and Ausuka's scum chances.
VOTE: hutmeil
someone should intent so he can claim and we have time to do something else if we wanted to.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
just claim guyOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
if you town flip then it makes it look like furt knew you were town and Ausuka gets a huge downgrade. Also, you were a MND counter so your town flip also makes him very susOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
oh you did claim VT...eh...Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
Were they? kinda. Vc 1.8 has MND in the lead so in my opinion his wagon overtook his, the Greeting wagon just kinda sat there.In post 856, furtiveglance wrote:Why are you excluding Greeting from this terrible analysis? They're currently the main cw.
Greeting has a sorta scummy playstyle and I was scum reading them earlier. I think if hut townflips then Greeting should be a consideration for the chopping block.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
In post 866, furtiveglance wrote:I need to go now but get off hutmeil and get on Greeting.
no way scum is just these two and hut and they are trying to hard push a Greeting wagon, right?In post 867, Eiralox wrote:cos if hutmeil isn't scum and greeting is the unspoken vibe i've gotten from a few players(won't mention who yet) is a dire need to draw attention away from greeting.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
For me it was mainly that you spent most of early game talking about your town reads and thats like really easy to do as scum. Wasn't really till 197 that you started talking about your POE.In post 873, Greeting wrote:I am not sure what is so scummy that I’ve done in this game.
I had felt like your RVS on Gandhi and then leaving your vote there for "pressure" was scummy.
I assumed this line was about Ausuka, was it? if not who was it about? if so what was "not right"?In post 197, Greeting wrote:and Ausuka is town, but my gut tells me that something's not right here.
Was worried that your POE was a shit ton of mislimable town and you as scum could just use POE ad nauseam to justify your votes.
I'm down with the whole "hut isn't playing to his town meta/he's not being proactive." but I don't really think you've been either. Hut is p good flip today and we can just go from there tomorrow.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
i see claims of townhunting come from scum way more than I do from town.In post 883, Greeting wrote:I do townhunting rather than scumhunting quite often in games.
That's not how cancel culture works! There's no statute of limitations on the internet.In post 883, Greeting wrote:And also, it was kinda a long time ago?
wasn't saying anything about your meta just that you aren't being all that proactive similar to hutmei.In post 883, Greeting wrote:Oh and I’m not really sure what my town meta is, I have a lot of towngames and played differently in many of them.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
What do you think about my reasons to tunnel on MND?In post 898, Crescent wrote:he tunnels on MND quite a bit, and I want some more elaboration on his though process with Hutmeil.
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. There's no way for me to know what Huts alignment is until he flips or is investigated. I can see how him not being proactive could be scum him sitting back and not doing anything. I was also considering deadline implications. I think when I voted we had just under 2 days left and getting him to claim and giving us time
before the deadline was something needed. a d1 nl is prob eh.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
I'm impulsive, yes but I sorta hate the idea that I can't scumread a scummy slot b/c it has a new occupant.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
how dare you not know Huts alignment!Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
just b/c I'm aware that you could be scum that knows we are running up town?In post 910, furtiveglance wrote:Nero Cain
Even if Hut was flipped green you are still down my totem pole a bit but I think it's a solid strat to town read town and make yourself look good. I don't know why you are up in arms over this.
Are you telling me that if I town read someone that you really thought was scum you wouldn't even consider that I knew they were town?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
TBF to BBT, suspecting a player that's not posting or scumhunting isn't some crazy out there logic. I mean yeah, you could argue that he's doing that as scum but it's practically the same reason that Hut is getting run up and what people get ran up for all the time.
Juice was inactive ITG but not sitewide. I thought Juice's claim that the vote on Gandhi being an RVS vote was bullshit
I also feel like just trying to laugh off suspicion on you is pretty scummy.In post 156, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nuclear Gandhi(3): Eiralox, Greeting, Frogsterking
inutile (3): DeltaWave, Nuclear Gandhi, Mohab500
I kinda got the impression that it might be a DGB alt which would explain why it's so scummy and still have a green pm but yeah....I didn't/don't think MND is all that townie.In post 237, Juice wrote:someone scum reads me for my RVS - ROFLCOPTEROf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
Honestly, Eiralox isn't talking about Deltawave enough.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
my only issue with eiolax is that he's not talking about Deltawave enoughOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- Nero Cain
-
Nero Cain Survivor
- Nero Cain
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 44912
- Joined: December 6, 2009
no rest 4 you, you evil cat!Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit - Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain
- Nero Cain