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Nah i'm right. that's it for talk.In post 131, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Well, you're seeing the game at the opposite end of the spectrum to me so we probably need to talk. All three of these are bad.In post 100, Eiralox wrote:Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.
Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.
VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi
this is scum. guillotine asap.
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Im not sharing. And i'm starting to think you and ghandi are together. I don't like toffee's entrance or wrong read on frogster but I can still sort of see town there. But you? Toffee's defense of Ghandi is blatant, yours isn't and that wearies me.In post 161, furtiveglance wrote:
Do you want to share those reasons? Or at least invent some?In post 160, Eiralox wrote:I have my reasons. No one's going to vote Mohab. Ghandi is still blatant scum. looking for the partners.- Eiralox
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cos ur scum with gandhi and toffee isnt. this post proves it.In post 175, furtiveglance wrote:
Don't think BBT really hard defended Gandhi any more than I did either. Why do you want to make a point of distinguishing us when there is no real difference?In post 173, Eiralox wrote:I said defense, not reads. im not keen on repeating myself.- Eiralox
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cool cool we got time
why are you voting gandhi?
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In post 225, Frogsterking wrote:I'm going to puke if my solve is correct. I'm most willing to reassess on Gandhi.
im sorry im a bit of a tipsy lazy reader today. what xactly is ur solve? excluding gandhi, let's assume they are tovn for this experiment, vhich 3 slots vould u say are scum?
cos rn RE: Juice: 100% null. No data. I want juice to engage but rn i don't have enough data to even consider voting that way. And gandhi........ why they so silent? weekend awol? cos i mean i'll see scum in gandhi until gandhi convinces me otherwise. which so far: gandhi>eira: French Revo.
So where's ghandi? I want gandhi to approach ur case on them pronto. I said that slot is 100% scum............................. am i being unbending? th only person who can convince me about gandhi rn is gandhi. I'll wait.
@Gandhi: reads on Hutmeil, Toffee and Ausuka. This will help me sort you, perhaps mollify my burning desire to see you consigned to the nuclear fire. Sooooo................. yeah i think that's exactly what I want rn, from one specific slot.- Eiralox
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In post 227, Frogsterking wrote:Ego
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the fact that you have hoppip above "lurkers always scum in there"(which i disagree with, on rational principle) worries me.In post 219, DeltaWave wrote: asuka strikes me as town.
furtiveglance also strikes me as town. although his vote against me is wrong, the rationale seems towny.
bbt, on the other hand, strikes me as someone who wanted to piggyback off furtive's reasoning to join a relatively uncontroversial wagon that coincidentally targets the main person campaigning against inutile.
hoppip is neutral, leaning town. the rationale for sussing me wasn't great but is the kind of rationale i could expect from townspeople.
nuclear g - again, not sure what to make of this player since i just don't have a read on them and i'm confused as to why this is the biggest wagon rn. i'm not saying it's wrong, just don't know if it's right
juice, hut, miralax, and mohab all fall into the same category for me, which are low activity lurkers. there is ALWAYS scum in this group on d1. i wouldn't be surprised if juice is scum who is letting us slug it out. only two posts and still maintaining an RVS vote when we're nine pages in.
i wouldn't be terribly surprised if it's inutile/juice/bbt, assuming a standard 10:3 split.
the fact that you don't address Frogster, who is obvious town, worries me.
The fact that you are not happy with the gandhi wagon this early worries me.
The fact that juice isn't at null worries me.
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In post 231, Frogsterking wrote:
I haven't outed my other 2 scumreads yet in an effort not to alarm them. My plan is to explain all of my reads after I get replies from my survey. I've been procrastinating posting my survey.In post 228, Eiralox wrote:im sorry im a bit of a tipsy lazy reader today. what xactly is ur solve? excluding gandhi, let's assume they are tovn for this experiment, vhich 3 slots vould u say are scum?
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tbh furtive gave me town vibes from the start. the gandhi pairing was more of a test and i like their reaction to it. i never like to be certain, complacent, so my read on furtive was a fabrication. i hope im right and they're green cos they've felt like it thus far.In post 233, Frogsterking wrote:Do you still think furtive is scum? From my point of view your interaction looks quite a bit TvT.- Eiralox
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In post 235, DeltaWave wrote:
It is usually true that at least one mafia will lurk in order to avoid attention. It is very interesting that you perked up now that I've thrown a bit of shade on you by including you in the lurker category.In post 230, Eiralox wrote:
the fact that you have hoppip above "lurkers always scum in there"(which i disagree with, on rational principle) worries me.
the fact that you don't address Frogster, who is obvious town, worries me.
The fact that you are not happy with the gandhi wagon this early worries me.
The fact that juice isn't at null worries me.
why do you worry me?
I forgot about frogater. Id say neutral leaning town but it's not super solid.
I never said I wasn't happy with the ghandi wagon. I just don't really understand it. Don't misrep me.
Let me guess. You are trying to slow walk your way onto my wagon so you can be with bbt.
lol....................................................
i'm used to shade on me. so no, u didnt perk me up, dont convince urself of that. what perked me is your.... untowny tone. Cos..... the way you speak here.... tbh if I weren't voting gandhi i'd be voting u. no slowwalking or whatever toward toffee rekuired, im not a walrus but an orca.
AAAAaaaaaaannndd..........
I love ur diversion of hoppip in this post. regardless of gandhi alignment ur words here make delta/hoppip very likely in my mind.- Eiralox
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it's page 10. so? juice is still null. im not against any votes there but data-wise iffy. why do I get the feeling that you're hunting for easy elims Delta?
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In post 246, DeltaWave wrote:
OH yeah that must be why I'm still voting inutileIn post 245, Eiralox wrote:it's page 10. so? juice is still null. im not against any votes there but data-wise iffy. why do I get the feeling that you're hunting for easy elims Delta?
Try to make up better rationales please
despite 'common consensus' inutile is very elimable today, we all are in theory. i think they are town but hey they are def still a poss. and when you voted inutile, well, at that point it did seem an easy elim?
and you voting one place doesnt mean im not gonna analyze your pushes where you don't vote? what logic even is that? i'm only allowed to comment on where you vote? while your early scum on juice has been reinforced here? better rationale? no. I like my rationale right here, trained on you.
sooooo yeah................... i'll wait for gandhi but you're starting to really sell me on delta/hoppip here.- Eiralox
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congrats u just shifted to my lovely scum bin.In post 250, DeltaWave wrote:
Very interesting how you formulated this theory immediately after I called you out for lurkingIn post 247, Eiralox wrote:In post 246, DeltaWave wrote:
OH yeah that must be why I'm still voting inutileIn post 245, Eiralox wrote:it's page 10. so? juice is still null. im not against any votes there but data-wise iffy. why do I get the feeling that you're hunting for easy elims Delta?
Try to make up better rationales please
despite 'common consensus' inutile is very elimable today, we all are in theory. i think they are town but hey they are def still a poss. and when you voted inutile, well, at that point it did seem an easy elim?
and you voting one place doesnt mean im not gonna analyze your pushes where you don't vote? what logic even is that? i'm only allowed to comment on where you vote? while your early scum on juice has been reinforced here? better rationale? no. I like my rationale right here, trained on you.
sooooo yeah................... i'll wait for gandhi but you're starting to really sell me on delta/hoppip here.
Go ahead, join your teammate on my wagon. What's stopping you?
Supposedly you are sold. Seems weird you wouldn't vote in that case
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I mean tbh hoppip still null to me, i'll flip you before there 100% delta. but your dodging of that topic? scummy scummy. and you egging me on 'bout my buddy' after i said i'm waiting for gandhi shows either your adherence to a deleterious agenda or your lack of comprehension, or mere indifference, to vhat i said. and by default anyone vho even mentions 'lurkers' D1, sp this early(way way 2 early bt) ping me, all times. You tho? Your pushes? Your tone? Your assuredness that you are safe yet your utter fluidity in shading harder slots vhile pushing for the easier ones(and yes, u voting inutile and pushing other places is a safe haven for you, a cubby hole from vhich to snipe) is blatant here. And your only solid retorts, really, have been
"Uh get better rationale eira you dummy" and "Hurhurhur eira y not vote with your buddy toffeee"
I don't mind lurkers. I look at kwaulity, not kwauntity. and what you've done this past page just screams scum trying to be abrasive in an indifferent-seeming manner so as to throw of sharp flak.- Eiralox
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In post 254, Frogsterking wrote:Gandhi's not coming back lol
Gandhi was scum's savior and they got SHUT DOWN
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??????????????????????????????????In post 261, DeltaWave wrote:]
tbh your extremely defensive reaction combined with your unwillingness to vote me (even though you claim "it's a fact" that I'm scum apparently) tells it all. you want to deflect but you're not certain if my wagon would succeed or not, so you don't want to hop on it just yet. that isn't townplay.
XD XD XD
ur the one being defensive love. deflect? deflect.... deflect.... from what? XD XD XD egh you do crack me up. but not in a wholesome way. more like... sandpaper on my brain kinda hysteria, but meh mirth is mirth. i'll take it : 3
i'll go through your posts tomorrow, i havent eaten yet fml, hopefully gandhi is back by then so that i can have a more ameliorating diversion.- Eiralox
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lol call me out? throw me in a lurk bin u mean? pull on another one. fishing for a reason 2 vote u? like 3rd or fourth time u said that? MUST I repeat myself? Must I really? Must I really take the energy to type that i told you im voting gandhi and that's not apt to change soon? You are raising the value of your own impact on me far too much, it is a non-factor in my etimation: your post was scummy, i called out the scummy portions. then YOU went on the uber defensive 'don't look at me' mode after I called u out for going for LHF. so don't try and wriggle falsities into this discourse.
Im not a fisher but a hunter. and you dodgy af. IF I really wanted to vote you above gandhi ida fekking did it. And if I were scum I would be far more subtle in my approach. So yeah, my point: Delta goes for LHF. Delta: no! False! eira defensive cos I put them in a lurk bin! rinse and repeat. hopefully not ad-infinitum. you are being scummy here, and your pivot point is: "Buuuut I put you in lurk bin so anything u say against me is false cos u perked up at me never saw me etcetera etcetera" which is such an absurd approach to my approach that, while it humored me, it's not something i'm going to humor.
but........ time for me to consume biomatter and view pixel films. i'll go through your ISO tomorrow with a fine comb. I'll see if the vibes that your latest actions have conveyed are wholly consistent with your past iterations.- Eiralox
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In post 281, DeltaWave wrote:
not my point. i lumped you in with the other sideliners and made a comment that there's got to be scum within that group. you then immediately started to tunnel on me despite never mentioning me before in this game - indicating that you're playing self-defense rather than communicating a genuine scumread. or in other words, you're acting like i hit a little too close to a nerve.In post 274, Eiralox wrote:"Buuuut I put you in lurk bin so anything u say against me is false cos u perked up at me never saw me etcetera etcetera" which is such an absurd approach to my approach that, while it humored me, it's not something i'm going to humor.
oh yeah of course. accuse first, read later. i'm sure you'll hop on the bandwagon when you get back. it's silly for you to even pretend like there's some rational basis behind what you're saying - other than "I was successfully sitting things out on the sidelines until DW called me out, now I have to defend myself somehow."but........ time for me to consume biomatter and view pixel films. i'll go through your ISO tomorrow with a fine comb. I'll see if the vibes that your latest actions have conveyed are wholly consistent with your past iterations.
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So yeah.... going for the easy target here. Love that. I look worse? XDIn post 282, furtiveglance wrote:I was out today. I'll be able to post more this time tomorrow. In short, Deltawave has been giving some good stuff and I quite like it, enough to unvote. I think Eiralox looks worse from their back and forth and I think the "I faked a read to test reactions" is easily faked and not amazing townplay in any case. BBT is a bit sus but not enough to vote yet. I'll vote Juice because they laughed about being sussed for RVS or something and it was weird.
VOTE: Juice
Ok. Looks like I'm still happy hunting you as scum.
Is delta scum? I don't really care in this analysis. Did delta approach me in a mental way? definitely.
Eira: Hey delta look at this post, u did some scummy things and I fairly think you might be paired with Hoppip, because of your very lazy greening of them above your convenient lurk bin(which is always a poor contrivance this early day one and no one will convince me otherwise.
Delta: How dare You sus me! I ussed u first by saying you a lurker!! u are buddies with toffee the only reason u sus me is cos I sus u u so panicky look i hit a nerve eira is flailing scum obviously defensive they want to vote me but havr to set it up publicly so thats why they hunt me, not cos theyre scumhunting but cos theyre panicky scum cos I say so cos I don't want to approach them on hoppip or me going for low hanging fruit so I'll shade them by insinuating they are mentally incompetent and panicking scum in a corner yes cos eira makes no sense no rationale so the only thing they want to do is setp up a vote on me im sure and im not acting defensive? how can eira say that if they are the ones being nervey? and so on.
Furtiveglance: Yeah Delta u make sense I also sus Eira and Toffee and Juice and I'll vote the easy juice delta.
Lol.
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Eh. well i guess furtive/delta is liklier than delta/hoppip? only for the unfortunate fact that scum would be in general be wary of mirroring each other so blatantly. But the mindmeld.... So one scum in delta/furtive is what I'll bank on for now.- Eiralox
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In post 311, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:For some disclosure; even though I didn't come here on Friday after my last post, I did come here yesterday. I read some posts and quickly lost track of who said what, so I ended up saying to myself "f*c* it" and postponed the catching up for today. I'll do before the day is over, I swear!, but my god I'll have to read from beginning and take notes of everything because telling people apart is so difficult..
yeah you really have to because you've given me no reasons to change my mind. if ur town i want that so that my vote can be used more effectively. but i'm not seeing it. Your two entrance posts here are utter nothingburgers so dazzle me or die.- Eiralox
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I'm starting to think furtive is likelier scum than delta? esp. if, as my previous redundant now instated faux maneuver averred, furtive and gandhi are are scum together:
Agreeing with town! Delta and shifting the vote to juice is a great possible way to indirectly divert from the gandhi wagon(while furtive also shades eira, who started that wagon).
So I mean........ Delta is wrong, delta is defensive as fuck, delta is misrepping me bad, delta was very irritating and dodgy and illogical last night but, and meh i havent done the iso shtick cos I got a life, I can feel all those irregularities coming from town. Furtive? Rats but that slot just scumpings me on an instinct level, even tho they also feel green at the same time? paradox? maybe. But I think RE: Juice delta talking and furtive voting convinces me that scum is likelier in furtive than delta..... maybe........ too early for me. imma watch these two, something's whack.
Hoppip voting Delta is a very very interesting development.................. i'll post when I post/- Eiralox
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In post 323, Ausuka wrote:
I'm going to be honest, I don't see the Delta read - I don't agree that scum are more likely to respond defensively and aggressively in the way he did to you, and I think Delta is likely to be town hereIn post 258, Eiralox wrote:delta/hoppip isn't a team solve to me, but a blatant pattern that i feel delta is trying very hard to veer past for whatever reason. if i felt town on either slot I woulda let it slide, but I don't.
That said I don't really suspect you either - you feel like you have conviction and I sort of understand where your Delta read comes from at least. It shows a level of solving that experienced scum can definitely fake but I think is probably +town for you here.
I don't think hoppip is a bad place to look though, his posting hasn't really whelmed me and the push on Delta felt slightly slimy in the sense that "if he was town he would have brought up his meta in response to my post" doesn't feel like a real thought? Does anyone else, like, understand this line of reasoning? If people do it might just be a me thing, but otherwise I don't like the read
this is a very good post. town points for ausuka. i'll admit that hoppip seems worse to me rn than delta, but i'm still not gonna push either of them as an option for now. tbh thus far the only real pings i've gotten are from gandhi and furtive and meh furtive i'm like still 50/50 on.- Eiralox
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It is clear to me that at this point you aren't even reading what I'm saying. You are in a pre-asumption bias tunnel, ignoring content and seeing what you want to see. whuck makes things very simple to me.In post 354, DeltaWave wrote:
can you just commit and vote for me already? i don't even know what the purpose would be to fixate on me as scum for so long and then not follow up. unless you're trying to see if anyone else is buying it before you do?In post 316, Eiralox wrote: So I mean........ Delta is wrong, delta is defensive as fuck, delta is misrepping me bad, delta was very irritating and dodgy and illogical last night but, and meh i havent done the iso shtick cos I got a life, I can feel all those irregularities coming from town. Furtive? Rats but that slot just scumpings me on an instinct level, even tho they also feel green at the same time? paradox? maybe. But I think RE: Juice delta talking and furtive voting convinces me that scum is likelier in furtive than delta..... maybe........ too early for me. imma watch these two, something's whack.
Hoppip voting Delta is a very very interesting development.................. i'll post when I post/
1. I no longer see the value in engaging with you, as by your own behavior, whether intended or unintended, you are, imho, harmfully obfuscating things..and acting in a very circular manner. There are certain players that I always believe are best not engaged with by me, regardless of their alignment, and just now you have become such one.
2. which means, while i'm still null to green on you, i am certainly open to voting for you, because either: you are stuck in unfortunate loop, or u are scum abstractedly trying to craft a narrative, banking on players going 'yeah that interaction too weird must be tvt'. Or something else. regardless, I'll engage with you once I see any value in it.- Eiralox
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In post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:First 2 pages
- I guess what looked like inutile narrating Ausuka's play but then trying todiffuse the situationwhen asked about why, it was really him thinking out loud. I don't blame myself for finding it sus earlier, never seen that (usually when someone thinks out loud it's not so.. empty). I'm willing to mark that as useful engagement by inutile.
- Ausuka's read in 42 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480278 is reasonable, for the above.
- Frog's read in 41 https://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist. ... le&u=16233 also, though I'm surprised he could see everything so clearly.
- 45s https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480284"? it could easily be explained as coming from either mafia or town, why would i only consider the scumread aspect of it?"by inutei feels too defensive intially. But on a 2nd thought, it's again him describing his playstyle so whatever. Currently I want inutei alive for now; I'm very confident that their playstyle makes their slot very very solvable in the long run so it's benefitial to give them the benefit of doubt.
- 47 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480293 by Frog is just.. deliberately aggrevating with unncessary unhelpful demeaning comment? Why?
Also of note: given that me, inutile, ausuka and Frog have been the only players who posted thus far, and Frog called me Town in 48 and 51 while calling inutile and ausuka locktown in 47 - it makes Frog's claim of there being a solvable wolf slot already be his own slot?
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- 58 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480346 by Frog makes no sense given the above, since he must be talking about himself?
- While I can see what DeltaWave means in 67 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480602 ; I'm not as convinced it's that AI for inutile. A decent early sus though, but a bit weak to follow especially when it's on a self resolving slot like inutile seems to be.
- I can agree with hoppip's 68 https://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist. ... le&u=36738 to an extent. I mean, I no longer think it's as bad looking for inutei as I originally thought but I wouldn't call them Town either like hoppip does.
- inutile, if you read this, what did you mean by "traction" in 70? https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480622
- 72 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480625 by DeltaWave is interesting in the sense that I don't think a player who hasn't played since 2015, or whenever, would be so directly shade throwy and so early if they were wolf? It's so "in your face" WIM energy, though I'm not sure. This read is entirely based on the idea that someone who hasn't played so long wouldn't be so fearless as Mafia, but I don't know what type of person they are. Good enough for a Day1 read as far as I'm concerned though.
- Really wish inutile in 74 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480627 didn't leave his comment to implications and instead said what they think. What's the point other than off hand shade throwing? If you throw shades at least don't leave them to implications and say what you mean.
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- 76 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480629 Can I just say that, yet again, this makes way more sense coming from a Town!DeltaWave simply given the 7 years of not playing? I hate this read because without that fact, I'd call this shade throwing otherwise.
- 79 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480637 by DeltaWave, again, that's a fair view tbh.
- hoppip, if you read this, what's the difference between "looks bad" and "looks scummy"? https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480649 ; Though I can now see how "shading Inutile for superficial reasons" isn't necessarily scummy, as I got the same view on this re-read. But honestly, without thathasn't played for 7 yearsthing, I could usually never see that as not scummy.
- inutile, you're completely right in 88 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480742 ; I'd like to apologize for that.
- due to 90 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480744 I've the feeling that inutile is the type of person who's super easy to get voted out if you're Mafia, all you need is to sus them and their focus will be limited to defending themselves, which can only lead to their overall game contribution to look nothing but scummy. I think we should give inutile some breathing room. Again, I'm super certain that slot is easily solvable in the long run.
- At this point in game inutile is/was such a low hanging fruit, that I think 95 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480777 is a good look for Ausuka. Not by much, because multiple people called inutile town by this point. But I do believe a inutile miselim would had been an easy path for a wolf!Ausuka.
- I don't like 99 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13480784 by Frog tbh. Because I don't see why would you townread someone for trying to communicate something that you yourself don't understand what it is. Because "it seemed important to them"? This may be a wild guess, but I believe it's possible for wolves to also have some importance in explaining and defending themselves. This is a bad townread reasoning tbh.
Alright, I know I only got 4 pages in - but I honestly feel good about my progress. I'm starting to tell slots apart from each other and have some view on how the game is going, so I think it'll be much easier for me the next time I come in. Nevertheless I'll need to up my activity a bit to be left behind.
VOTE: Frogsterking I got nothing better tbh; simply put the only slot who gave me some negative vibes on this re-read catchup.
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>Hyper-focus on inutile... very freudian almost: "I know that inutile will be easily spottable as scum, so keep them alive." Your post comes now after a bunch of us has townread or locked inutile, which, as delta has so blatantly pointed out, makes inutile less of an easy place for scum to push. so convenient for you.
>I sense an overall.... trusty vibe between you and hopip. And the callout... Yeah I don't like them vibes.
>You towning delta is NAI for me.
>I've read through your entire block. and i can honestly say, delving past the hyper-psychoanalytika focus on inutile, there's isn't really a sense of scumhunting..... especially not towards frogsterking, which I was specifically looking for.
I think, in the interim before i do other analyses, i can vote on you and hoppip. strange vibes coming from both of you. I can frame your above post as "I am town let me tell ya'll what i really think" or "I am scum let me throw a word salad out there then vote without really fielding a case.". At this point in the game I want way more justification from u for why frogster.
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i kinda agree with ausuka. in general i like to play within the time we have, like give it at least three more days. i'm a fan of no exes on many day ones but i'm very certain that's not a thing that easily gains traction here so I rarely mention it, or rarely self-meta.
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Are there slots that................................... have flown under the radar? Definitely. Ghandi has given me no satisfaction thus far. and many others besides.
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so u basically come in to sorta shade inutile then vote juice, the wagon with most traction? any other pertinent thoughts on the game state?In post 386, hoppip wrote:Main reason I'd like for you to vote though is because you've become a focal point in the game, yet I don't really know who you scum read. You're butting heads with other players but it doesn't reallymeananything, you know? Less defense, more offense, please.- Eiralox
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you've been catching up for a while. the only concrete thing we really got from you is that readlist. and that's way dated. Is juice scum? fuck me i don't know. am i happy with a fast elim there? heck no.In post 388, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Juice
Highly likely to be scum. 5 days in and 0 game solving.
Will be catching up on this properly later today.
You honestly havent been doing much solving urself imho. one big post, on read list, that's it.
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see the thing is some people don't always vote without due reason. sometimes i'm exactly like that. so you tunneling towards inutile on this is either a bad play or a "push for the sake of a push."In post 386, hoppip wrote:Main reason I'd like for you to vote though is because you've become a focal point in the game, yet I don't really know who you scum read. You're butting heads with other players but it doesn't reallymeananything, you know? Less defense, more offense, please.
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by game related i don't mean asking people to do something but proactively hunting yourself. asking others to hunt while you aren't doing much hunting yourself is by default not a game-advancing strategy in my mind. I can bear lurkers. what always pings me tho is lurkey slots accusing other slots of being lurkey. if those slots vote there.... well then my ping becomes a bell tolling in my skull.
cos i get inutile seemed very, very very scummy the first few pages. I shared that vibe. But through later actions inutile remains in my townlocks. So would scum hopip focus like this on inutile? not a factor in my analyses. In general, in wording, by votes, I just have no idea what inutile is thinking or doing. And it feels.... did Ausuka say slimy? Sorta?
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correction lol XD XDIn post 399, Eiralox wrote:by game related i don't mean asking people to do something but proactively hunting yourself. asking others to hunt while you aren't doing much hunting yourself is by default not a game-advancing strategy in my mind. I can bear lurkers. what always pings me tho is lurkey slots accusing other slots of being lurkey. if those slots vote there.... well then my ping becomes a bell tolling in my skull.
cos i get inutile seemed very, very very scummy the first few pages. I shared that vibe. But through later actions inutile remains in my townlocks. So would scum hopip focus like this on inutile? not a factor in my analyses.In general, in wording, by votes, I just have no idea what inutile is thinking or doing. And it feels.... did Ausuka say slimy? Sorta?
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*no idea what hopip is doing, not inutile XD Egh. Ok, bye for now brain fuzzy.- Eiralox
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Screw it. That's -1?
@Juice where u at? You have a day to wow me. cos meh like this game has ground down so let's get a flip is my feel, which is honestly rare from me. I want gandhi dead... like they ignored me completely in their new wall which is..... kinda absurd considering my hyper focus on them. why would town ignore me like that? egh. But at this point meh like i think people aren't clicking. I want a claim from juice. Pronto.- Eiralox
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nah i already gave them 24 hours. read above. so you saying this is de facto scummy to me.In post 466, Greeting wrote:In post 463, Eiralox wrote:why tho?
Because the slot has given us literally nothing to townread it even though the game has been going for several days now and plenty of content has been made.inutile wrote:i… don’t get it
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I am in V/LA.In post 470, Eiralox wrote:
nah i already gave them 24 hours. read above. so you saying this is de facto scummy to me.In post 466, Greeting wrote:In post 463, Eiralox wrote:why tho?
Because the slot has given us literally nothing to townread it even though the game has been going for several days now and plenty of content has been made.inutile wrote:i… don’t get it
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nope. IfIn post 539, hoppip wrote:
This a pretty bad vote, it seems pretty obvious you only voted me because Ausuka opened the door for you. Or maybe you're just hiding behind her as cover? Either way, very slimy.In post 397, Eiralox wrote:egh alea jecta est
VOTE: hoppip
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youread what I said you would have clearly seen me freely expressing my intent to vote between you and gandhi some time before ausuka's vote. so no.- Eiralox
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again, no. I build cases in my own way, in my own time, and right now im not voting you. convince you i'm town? I don't care. I'm not here to convince others but to fulfill my purpose.In post 539, hoppip wrote:
Looks like another misrep to me. Two in fact.In post 399, Eiralox wrote:by game related i don't mean asking people to do something but proactively hunting yourself. asking others to hunt while you aren't doing much hunting yourself is by default not a game-advancing strategy in my mind. I can bear lurkers. what always pings me tho is lurkey slots accusing other slots of being lurkey. if those slots vote there.... well then my ping becomes a bell tolling in my skull.
cos i get inutile seemed very, very very scummy the first few pages. I shared that vibe. But through later actions inutile remains in my townlocks. So would scum hopip focus like this on inutile? not a factor in my analyses. In general, in wording, by votes, I just have no idea what inutile is thinking or doing. And it feels.... did Ausuka say slimy? Sorta?
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Eira, I'll give you another chance, but you only get one! Go into my ISO and quote where I said I scum read inutile. Next, show proof that I haven't been scum hunting. Do both and I'll role claim right now! Otherwise you're gonna have to work extra hard to convince me that you're town after telling blatant lies~- Eiralox
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i'll come back later. the replacements are saying some weird things. Delta thinks i'm scum and i still have no idea why, either false case or emotionally based is my feel. hoppip seems more town, we'll see. hutmeil i'll talk about when I can, been a hidey slot all game and only now, after pressure, pops up. greeting remains a good vote, it might not achieve much but i can conceive scum there. gandhi gave us 2 walls. i'll comment when i can.- Eiralox
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Inutile was my townlock. Nero remains so. while on the face of it mapuche and delta feel town i withhold judgement for now. I'd love to vote gandhi again, i'm giving that slot like a day more before i decide fuck it let's push. greeting remains scummy to me, they are on a hoppip/hutmeil/mapuche level and yet acted as if they weren't, which I also mentioned about toffee earlier. bye.- Eiralox
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idk i liked their recent tone but not their content? like they are very defensive and are tunneling way into me while sorta skirting past u ...... but meh the towniest hoppip has sounded to me was in recent posts/ like i have no solid reason to read them one way or another, that was just the vibe I got....... eh.
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??????????????In post 618, Mapuche Never Die wrote:
I don’t like this post. Instead of asking Juice whether they have any reads, Eiralox asks Juice whether they have no thoughts on anyone else. This has something of a negative undertone which shades Juice.In post 218, Eiralox wrote:No other thoughts on anyone else Juice? - Eiralox
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