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had/have a feeling (?)
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yeah your opener pretty paint by numbers but you're aware so
like
vote someone
say something about someone else in same post
encourage engagement
make an early read!!Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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[ vote ] player name [ / vote ]In post 21, DeltaWave wrote:Please advise how to make your vote look cool like that so I can call an emergency meeting to vote out those who are sus
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i think [ v ] player name [ / v ] also works but the above is the one i useShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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oh i was asking if you had/have a feeling because i might have had/currently have a feelingIn post 25, Ausuka wrote:What does this mean?
but not alignment related, so! more a wondering aloud
was saying it felt like a sort ofIn post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
like
"this is how to post at the beginning of the game" thing
like especially the first post is textbook "how to rvs"Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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it means i was asking if ausuka has/had a non-alignment related feeling as i did/or at least did after hoppip's first postIn post 28, DeltaWave wrote:
what does this meanIn post 26, inutile wrote:oh i was asking if you had/have a feeling because i might have had/currently have a feeling
but not alignment related, so! more a wondering aloud
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i mean, you could be??In post 29, Ausuka wrote:Ok, am I mafia?
i wasn't saying that out of context i was thinking about the question you were asked about your opener and your response to itShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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you made very common opener, which you were aware of and said when asked, i guess i was thinking through the noteworthiness of nuclear gandhi's questioning of it and your response to itIn post 32, Ausuka wrote:
I didn't really know. I mean, I think talking about my opener being textbook RVS seems somewhat nonsensical? It's the very start of the game, there aren't many options.In post 27, inutile wrote:
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.
Pedit: I'm trying to ask, like, what are you getting at with what you're saying? Were you just narrating my play?
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i guess i don't really understand as it still kinda feels like you're just doing the engagement thing with me but that's more player indicative and not alignment indicative soShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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like it's not like i thoughtIn post 33, inutile wrote:
you made very common opener, which you were aware of and said when asked, i guess i was thinking through the noteworthiness of nuclear gandhi's questioning of it and your response to itIn post 32, Ausuka wrote:
I didn't really know. I mean, I think talking about my opener being textbook RVS seems somewhat nonsensical? It's the very start of the game, there aren't many options.In post 27, inutile wrote:
though i am now kinda curious what else you could have thought i was trying to say there (also to me i am simply saying it not trying to say but i understand that i am often unclear and am happy to clarify)In post 25, Ausuka wrote:Not sure what you're trying to say here.
I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.
Pedit: I'm trying to ask, like, what are you getting at with what you're saying? Were you just narrating my play?
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i guess i don't really understand as it still kinda feels like you're just doing the engagement thing with me but that's more player indicative and not alignment indicative so
"and now i will narrate ausuka's play"
but if you want to describe my posting that way you probable can it's not not applicable ya knowShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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i asked ausuka about as i was trying to gauge familiarity similarly to how nuclear gandhi was but this has led to very little other than confusionIn post 36, Frogsterking wrote:
Why bring it up then?In post 32, Ausuka wrote:I don't really have a feeling about hoppip. Maybe I will later, idk.
so
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can you at least do whatever it is you would do to sort me as it feels like the extent of your scumread if you're town is simply that i do not communicate effectively which is obvious and i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
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? it could easily be explained as coming from either mafia or town, why would i only consider the scumread aspect of it?In post 42, Ausuka wrote:
I think 22 is weird considering you say you're not scumreading me - tonally it doesn't sit right with me, especially the double exclamation pointsIn post 40, inutile wrote:can you at least do whatever it is you would do to sort me as it feels like the extent of your scumread if you're town is simply that i do not communicate effectively which is obvious and i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
What mafias should I be looking at right now instead?
Why?In post 41, Frogsterking wrote:Inutile and Asuka both townlocked.
the only read i am currently sure of is that i am town, thus, anyone else
i wasn't saying,
go look at X instead
i was if you're town look at me however it is you do so because i am town and the sooner you discover that the better for the game
like i am willing to walk through the same five posts or whatever forever if necessary
but they seem to be a much bigger deal to non-me parties than they are to me i was simply thinking through the interaction between you and nuclear gandhi as i read itShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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like i came to the game and thought,In post 45, inutile wrote:
? it could easily be explained as coming from either mafia or town, why would i only consider the scumread aspect of it?In post 42, Ausuka wrote:
I think 22 is weird considering you say you're not scumreading me - tonally it doesn't sit right with me, especially the double exclamation pointsIn post 40, inutile wrote:can you at least do whatever it is you would do to sort me as it feels like the extent of your scumread if you're town is simply that i do not communicate effectively which is obvious and i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
What mafias should I be looking at right now instead?
Why?In post 41, Frogsterking wrote:Inutile and Asuka both townlocked.
the only read i am currently sure of is that i am town, thus, anyone else
i wasn't saying,
go look at X instead
i was if you're town look at me however it is you do so because i am town and the sooner you discover that the better for the game
like i am willing to walk through the same five posts or whatever forever if necessary
but they seem to be a much bigger deal to non-me parties than they are to me i was simply thinking through the interaction between you and nuclear gandhi as i read it
oh hoppip voted me maybe i know hoppip
and then
hm, that was a kinda weird interaction between ausuka and nuclear gandhi, lemme see what ausuka might have been doing and why nuclear gandhi might have thought it was noteworthy
and that was pretty much the extent of it
and it feels like you're now scumreading me because i did not communicate that well
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trying to see if there’s traction?In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: InutileShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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i do not think ‘fighting’ would be a very accurate description of our interactions thereIn post 54, furtiveglance wrote:Are you guys fighting already? Stop fighting guys. Or let me join in.Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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also want to note the delta wave vote followed by hoppip unvoteIn post 70, inutile wrote:
trying to see if there’s traction?In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: InutileShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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anxious would be a better description but sure always amIn post 72, DeltaWave wrote:
"let's find the mafias guys! we're all in it together"In post 70, inutile wrote:
trying to see if there’s traction?In post 67, DeltaWave wrote:
This has big "how do you do fellow kids" energyIn post 40, inutile wrote: i would rather this not continue to detract from us finding mafias
VOTE: Inutile
you seem nervousShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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but yes i would like to find the mafias i do not really get what you’re sayingShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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eh do not think i was trying particularly hard there to look town just stating a preference for ausuka to directly sort me now as to not detract from gameIn post 79, DeltaWave wrote:
yeah that's the point of the game. the problem is that it's sus imo to try too hard to look townIn post 77, inutile wrote:but yes i would like to find the mafias i do not really get what you’re saying
but eh the issues you’re having with me here have been fairly common experiences for me throughout so shrugShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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what thoughts do you have on game outside of me right now?Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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????In post 85, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:But you were trying to look town? I consider this as admission for guilt.
i was stating a preference for ausuka to directly sort me like i just said
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the scumreads on me right now are all either like miscommunications which in your case does not even feel like you are trying to see what i am saying simply trying to say 'aha! you're a mafia!' which does not seem very towny of you at all
or simply indicative of me as a person like yes i am anxious you can see that in literally all of my games people have said those type of things beforeShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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this isn't true at all you could simply read any of the games i have played on this account or others (shiki, angela, drusilla, team rocket queen, hari, many more) to see thatIn post 85, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:I couldn't even comprehend what they were trying to say, not to mention trying to read them - best I could come up with was they were flabbergasted from wolf stress. That is, until their "I wasn't trying to look town that much" which I think has a chance of being a slip.
if you are having trouble understanding something i am trying to communicate please just ask me as it is very very frustrating for me to have to play with someone saying 'you are a mafia! because i do not comprehend you even though i have no tried to ask you!'
like i understand that i do not communicate well have said so already this game and am more than willing to elaborate/rephrase et cetera that does not bother me at all to do
but when people do not try to to understand and then say i am a wolf because they do not understand that is very very very very very very frustrating for meShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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you've already tried to rephrase it as something very different from what i even said so it is so hard for me to see this as anything more than you want to say i am mafia whether that is because you are mafia or because you simply think this is likely (which again kinda hard for me to see) but idrkIn post 89, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Does anyone else believe this's a stretch read?
But you were trying to look town? I consider this as admission for guilt.eh do not think i was trying particularly hard there to look town
like i was directly replying to delta wave saying i was possibly trying too hard to look town which i was not that isn't what was occurring and you are instead saying that i was saying that i was trying to look like a town because i am not a town which doesn't really follow
and well town should try to be townread greeting and i have discussed that at some length in a previous game however i wasn't even thinking about that at all at the timeShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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hmm let's see let's see let us seeShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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it didn't 'pop into my thought process' tho?? i was simply responding to deltawave saying they thought i might have been trying too hard to look townIn post 104, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:But perhaps you can explain to me why would the thought "how much I tried to appeared towny?" pop in a townies thought processShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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i have played a good bit of mafia at this point; >50 games on this site so farIn post 150, DeltaWave wrote:idk this is very reminiscent of how I played scum when I first started playing mafia. i'm not going to tunnel on him but i do feel it's suspect
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hm,In post 170, Eiralox wrote:
Im not sharing. And i'm starting to think you and ghandi are together. I don't like toffee's entrance or wrong read on frogster but I can still sort of see town there. But you? Toffee's defense of Ghandi is blatant, yours isn't and that wearies me.In post 161, furtiveglance wrote:
Do you want to share those reasons? Or at least invent some?In post 160, Eiralox wrote:I have my reasons. No one's going to vote Mohab. Ghandi is still blatant scum. looking for the partners.
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hutmeil votes furtiveglance (62)In post 204, inutile wrote:because the votes? or is your main reasoning the passive defense?
deltawave votes inutile (67)
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nuclear gandhi votes inutile (85)
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greeting votes nuclear gandhi (105)
frogsterking votes nuclear gandhi (109)
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i do not really understand why you’re discounting the player familiar with me (greeting) saying i play like this nor why you haven’t simply looked at my previous games yourself, but to make it very easy here are my isos from a few of my most recent games:In post 219, DeltaWave wrote:i truly do not understand why people see inutile as town. as i said before, if there's evidence that she always plays this way (even as town) then my tune might change but to date, nobody has done so unless I somehow missed it.
mini normal 2267 - (as angela, town) this is the normal greeting moderated and referenced earlier
achromatic calamity (as anahit, town)
micro blitz iv (as shiki, mafia)
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waitIn post 283, hoppip wrote:
VOTE: DeltaIn post 192, hoppip wrote:Spoiler:
Delta wanting to get the last word was interesting to me. Makes it seem like it was for the sake of their ego rather than agenda-driven. I get the feeling that they tend to suspect people based on their own perspective of how Mafia should be played instead of an individual player-to-player basis.
When I get some free time, I'll look through their past games and see if this is something that they can recreate in their scum games.
Doesn't seem like they have any recent completed games, last one was seven years ago. I think it looks pretty bad that they didn't think to mention that a meta dive on their past games would be fruitless and out of date. I think that's worth a pressure vote or two.
Besides, who doesn't love competing wagons?
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what?
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likeIn post 287, inutile wrote:why would you expect town!delta wave to mention this unprompted?
i am asking why would this be potentially scum indicative to you?
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hm i actually think mentioning potential associative connections probably fine and goodIn post 279, Ausuka wrote:Anyone else can correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's really obvious why I would criticise team solving.
like it's not like that means 'these two are mafias together!!!'
but rather oh there might be something to this
like something like furtiveglance has now started two wagons since nuclear gandhi became the leading wagon, let me note this for myself and others
seems fine and good yeah
but sure the pushing hard partners like eiralox was doing a bit maybe i can see what you're saying
but even then that helpful for others to look at maybe try to connect the dots that eiralox connecting
see if
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i guess maybe unless you thought you saying you were going to look at their past gamesIn post 288, inutile wrote:
likeIn post 287, inutile wrote:why would you expect town!delta wave to mention this unprompted?
i am asking why would this be potentially scum indicative to you?
i guess i don't really get at all why this in particular 'looks bad' to youwasa prompt for delta wave to say, 'hey that would be fruitless i haven't played any games in seven years' or whatever
but, uh,
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not really sure i even buy into the narrative that that was an rvs voteIn post 237, Juice wrote:someone scum reads me for my RVS - ROFLCOPTER
like a page 8 random vote on the leading wagon seems kinda unlikely for a lot of reasons
though i get that you've also not played in some time so maybe different expectations but still seems unlikely
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it kinda feels likeIn post 254, Frogsterking wrote:Gandhi's not coming back lol
Gandhi was scum's savior and they got SHUT DOWN
like you’re playing a different game
like i still don’t really understand where this survey thing is going
thought it was going to be one of those like
‘how much experience do you have playing mafia?’
things people sometimes do for unknown reasons as they seem not so beneficial to me
but i guess not? at this point in the game so idk
and the connections you’re making harder to follow
and!
at some point you said something about ausuka maybe having more that they weren’t saying
and your expectation that that be stated kinda weird since you’re playing the ‘i have a secret read game’
which is like
either your read is worth sharing and should be shared
or!
it is not in which case why even say you have the aforementioned read
but anyway!
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is it likeIn post 293, Frogsterking wrote:
No it's much better than that.In post 292, inutile wrote:like i still don’t really understand where this survey thing is going
thought it was going to be one of those like
‘how much experience do you have playing mafia?’
something you planned on doing before the game started (regardless of alignment?)?
or did something that occurred lead you to think ‘ya know what, a survey might be just the thing to find the mafias here’?Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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i certainly understand that and am willing to put in the work to do soIn post 295, Frogsterking wrote:
Your posts are difficult to follow so glass houses. I still think you're Town and have a tendency to make good points. I accept that I have to work a little bit harder to understand what you're saying than I do with most other players. I prefer you reciprocate that attitude toward my slot.In post 292, inutile wrote:and the connections you’re making harder to follow
however the questions i would often like answered to help fill in those dots have already been asked and you refused to answer on more than one occasion
like for some things there can be implied reasoning but some of your ‘x is town/scum’ type of statements it is like, i am not and would not like to be a mind reader
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or the 'ausuka there are findable scums posting' type of thingIn post 297, inutile wrote:like for some things there can be implied reasoning but some of your ‘x is town/scum’ type of statements it is like, i am not and would not like to be a mind reader
it is like, unless your purpose was to specifically see what ausuka would come back with, hard to see i guessShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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ah so this:In post 299, Frogsterking wrote:
There's a significant amount of content that I'm holding back. I have an overactive imagination which is a double edged sword, and I don't think all of my ideas are worth sharing. I also think sometimes it's better to let things play out.In post 292, inutile wrote:at some point you said something about ausuka maybe having more that they weren’t saying
and your expectation that that be stated kinda weird since you’re playing the ‘i have a secret read game’
which is like
either your read is worth sharing and should be shared
I mentioned my reads because I was excited about them because I think I have a good grasp on this game. I also believe it's best not to share them at this time in order to avoid the effects ofresponse bias. My intention is to play significantly more forthcoming in the last half of D1 and beyond.
mostlyIn post 297, inutile wrote:but also understand maybe you are asking for patience
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who / why with regards to the scumreads mostlyIn post 303, Frogsterking wrote:Okay: what was your question?
also curious about your expectation of others to elaborate on things but you thinking it's better for you to keep things to yourself
it's like the kinda dissonance that seems maybe not great for solving the game to me but dunno if alignment indicative
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there's always the 'future content' time traveler sort of thing but not perfectly applicable here and you've felt quite towny to me at timesIn post 304, inutile wrote:but dunno if alignment indicative
so mostly yeah will try to be patient sorryShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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scums are time travelers because they know the solution to the mystery so they are more likely to play in the future rather than the present and often have a plan for how they hope or think things will play out or potentially play out whereas towns are just weighing very most likely mafia right nowIn post 306, Frogsterking wrote:
What is that?In post 305, inutile wrote:there's always the 'future content' time traveler
like you'll often see this present itself with players saying 'i am going to do this' or 'hold me to this' because they have an expectation of themselves
which isn't an only comes from mafia thing but more often than random would indicate in my experience
if i were better at construct thought process and less messy maybe i'd be able to apply / know when to apply when not to apply
but like i said, maybe not super applicable here anyway especially as the survey was something you planned on doing before the game started and! probably better/more accurate to evaluate the second half of day one forward rather than trying to weigh it preemptivelyShowthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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a bunch of these links are to the member pages of the users who posted them rather than to the post themselves - you can use [ post ] number [ / post ] example 4 instead of copy pastingIn post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:2
if you would prefer to use a gendered pronoun when referring to me instead of it that is okay but please use she/her if soIn post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:- I guess what looked like inutile narrating Ausuka's play but then trying to diffuse the situation when asked about why, it was really him thinking out loud.
it felt like deltawave may have been trying to see if my wagon might be feasible, like testing the watersIn post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:- inutile, if you read this, what did you mean by "traction" in 70? viewtopic.php?p=13480622#p13480622
but noting it is what i thought; i thought it was a potentially noteworthy vote, as it was an unvote by someone who hadn't been posting in the thread at the time immediately following someone else voting me, so i wanted to remember it happenedIn post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:- Really wish inutile in 74 viewtopic.php?p=13480627#p13480627 didn't leave his comment to implications and instead said what they think. What's the point other than off hand shade throwing? If you throw shades at least don't leave them to implications and say what you mean.
uhhIn post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:- due to 90 viewtopic.php?p=13480744#p13480744 I've the feeling that inutile is the type of person who's super easy to get voted out if you're Mafia, all you need is to sus them and their focus will be limited to defending themselves, which can only lead to their overall game contribution to look nothing but scummy. I think we should give inutile some breathing room. Again, I'm super certain that slot is easily solvable in the long run.
i have never been eliminated day one and i have been voted out a total of once ever as town so no i do not think i am the type of person who is super easy to get voted out
like i often get briefly suspected early in games because people say i am "weird" when really they are mostly just noting that my brain works differently and sure sometimes mafia push me because they have to
but sure yes i do get preoccupied by things of the sort at times and that is why when ausuka voted me for instance i asked that they please try to sort me immediately if town because i know it hurts the game
but anyone familiar with me or partnered with someone familiar with me would potentially know that the chances on my becoming widely townread there would be fairly high so i wouldn't give too much weight to ausuka townreading me like you are saying i was low hanging fruit but yeah i was already being townread by others and i think even mafias unfamiliar with me at that point might realize it wasn't a good angleIn post 327, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:- At this point in game inutile is/was such a low hanging fruit, that I think 95 viewtopic.php?p=13480777#p13480777 is a good look for Ausuka. Not by much, because multiple people called inutile town by this point. But I do believe a inutile miselim would had been an easy path for a wolf!Ausuka.
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i will vote when i would like for the person i am voting to be eliminated or at the very least to claimIn post 345, hoppip wrote:inutile, hutmeil, Mohab500, hopefully you three can vote soon, even if you vote me I think it would be helpful to see where you want to push!Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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i will vote when i would like for the person i am voting to be eliminated or at the very least to claimIn post 345, hoppip wrote:inutile, hutmeil, Mohab500, hopefully you three can vote soon, even if you vote me I think it would be helpful to see where you want to push!
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do you think nuclear gandhi has been towny since being wagoned?In post 411, DeltaWave wrote:could someone kindly explain to me what the hubbub is about nuclear, because i still frankly do not understand what went on in the first 10 pages with this wagon
like yea the wagon has largely gone away but in that time nuclear gandhi has made one post about the first four pages which was a whole change of approach from previous posting
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at least you counted correctlyIn post 401, hutmeil wrote:Initially I gave Juice the benefit of the doubt (late RVS??). Then the slot voted Delta which I town lean, then town reads Ausuka for no given reason.
VOTE: Juice
As for the other slots, I'm willing to give a pass since it's still D1.
This is E-1 (if I counted correctly).
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in most cases eliminating someone and not eliminating someone day one both use one of our potential eliminations due to player count so it is almost always correct to eliminate someoneIn post 390, Eiralox wrote:i kinda agree with ausuka. in general i like to play within the time we have, like give it at least three more days. i'm a fan of no exes on many day ones but i'm very certain that's not a thing that easily gains traction here so I rarely mention it, or rarely self-meta.
Can Juice be scum? Yes.
Are there slots that................................... have flown under the radar? Definitely. Ghandi has given me no satisfaction thus far. and many others besides.
So @juice if u town u gotta talk yo
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i mean, nuclear gandhi was focusing on wording in a way that felt like they simply wanted to say ‘inutile is a mafia!’ not to figure out if i was; like for you it was like, it’s similar to me as newbie mafia therefore mafia, which doesn’t really make sense but can kinda see how you might have gotten there but nuclear gandhi was pushing me for responding to you saying i might have been trying to look town while completely ignoring the context of my statement (and now with more information i know they viewed me as an easy elimination at the time)In post 415, DeltaWave wrote:
i'm going to ISO nuclear after work and share some thoughts.In post 413, inutile wrote:
do you think nuclear gandhi has been towny since being wagoned?In post 411, DeltaWave wrote:could someone kindly explain to me what the hubbub is about nuclear, because i still frankly do not understand what went on in the first 10 pages with this wagon
like yea the wagon has largely gone away but in that time nuclear gandhi has made one post about the first four pages which was a whole change of approach from previous posting
so is the extent of your thoughts on nuclear gandhi still dunno why they were wagoned?
the part that confuses me about the wagon is that there were such immediate polar reactions and i couldn't figure out where that was coming from.
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what info do you think we would get here?In post 408, hutmeil wrote:[Already explained this. Basically, the slot lurks but is good enough for an elim because he has voted and given his read, so we can get some info next day]
Juice
like had you counted incorrectly and hammered juice,
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also your wagon felt possibly a reaction to nuclear gandhi's wagon and it seems odd to me that you seem to have dismissed that possibilityIn post 415, DeltaWave wrote:the part that confuses me about the wagon is that there were such immediate polar reactions and i couldn't figure out where that was coming from.Showthe swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
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oh i guess i missed that, or at least missed you connecting it to the timing of it and it’s potential relationship with nuclear gandhi’s wagon,In post 420, DeltaWave wrote:
i actually think i pointed that out with BBT's vote. i dont think furtive is scum but bbt hopping on when they did and why they did was sus to me.In post 419, inutile wrote:
also your wagon felt possibly a reaction to nuclear gandhi's wagon and it seems odd to me that you seem to have dismissed that possibilityIn post 415, DeltaWave wrote:the part that confuses me about the wagon is that there were such immediate polar reactions and i couldn't figure out where that was coming from.
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