TFT uPick [Game over!]

[Gamma Emerald]

Nomsy does not hide their last visit activity on their profile.

The following players do hide that information on their profiles:

tictac
Dunnstral
Malakittens
Titus
Frogsterking
Vivax
Sara
Enchant
beeboy
Toogeloo

The following players do not:

mastina
Fredrick A Campbell
Yume
NDMath
SirCakez
Gamma Emerald
MeekMeerkat

Further sorting out players and I don't think that mastina, Yume, NDMath, or SirCakez would make that post. This makes me think that Nomsy is controlled by one of Fredrick A Campbell, Gamma Emerald, or MeekMeerkat.

Nomsy spoke a German phrase, so I searched those 3 isos for the word 'German'. Gamma Emerald is the only one who returned a hit

Spoiler:

Lol nice
For a second I thought was German and then I realized it’s wagen not vogn in German

Just something to think about. I guess it's possible that Nomsy is not hiding their activity for a different reason and I'm off base.

I have German heritage but I don't actually know a lot of German

[Gamma Emerald]

Malakitten why did you need
to be the hammer?

Why are you typing
like William Shatner speaks?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Vivax

Not an RVS, this slot is scum for posting a reads list on page 3.

Also, I will be posting my survey start this game. Please participate.

pls be prompt with the survey, I want to see how it is

[Gamma Emerald]

Enchant - scum

I am Cop

Hi cop, I‘m the doc (not role)
but I‘m also pestilence
and you still have a nongreen pm

what's up doc?

[Gamma Emerald]

That said, my read on mastina is probably twisted by seeing histrionic text which is a D1 free pass in my books

what makes it histrionic?
My bet is she has a post restriction

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: vivax i have read nothing yet

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

VOTE: Frederick
Ok this entrance sucked

I think the vivax vote was better
VOTE: Vivax
the repeated blathering about updating reads without actually interacting or expanding on them in a meaningful capacity is scummy-bad

[Gamma Emerald]

But for real:

Yes, the time for FALSEHOODS has passed, and it is time for ENLIGHTENMENT.

Malakittens is trying too hard right now to be town.

Everything she is doing is something that looks town especially to those familiar with her. Her vote of me for that reason is something that is

exactly

what I would

expect

Malakittens to do as town--but Malakittens

knows

I would expect her to do that as town.

Her perspectives are designed to look like they come from town and to earn the trust of others, and for most it would seem to have worked.

But I AM A SCUMHUNTING

GOD

, and I SEE through your LIES.

We must PURGE Malakittens from the game, much as it PAINS me to say. I would much prefer to keep her around, but I cannot abide by her SINS.

oh, mastina is possessed by Guillotina, problem solved.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: vivax i have read nothing yet

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

VOTE: Frederick
Ok this entrance sucked

I think the vivax vote was better
VOTE: Vivax
the repeated blathering about updating reads without actually interacting or expanding on them in a meaningful capacity is scummy-bad

how can you say that was a good vote when I said I hadn't read anything in the same post?

I don't really suspect frederick yet, is why

[Gamma Emerald]

who is Guillotina?

A player who is very arrogant and has self-described as a scumhunting god

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus
SirCakez
beeboy
Enchant
mastina
Dunnstral
Malakittens
Toogeloo
tictac
Yume
Frogsterking
Vivax
NDMath
Fredrick A Campbell
MeekMeerkat
Sara

This…is a list.

[Gamma Emerald]

who is Guillotina?

A player who is very arrogant and has self-described as a scumhunting god

But i am not Guillotina, i am Enchant.

I was not talking about you.

[Gamma Emerald]

But for real:

Yes, the time for FALSEHOODS has passed, and it is time for ENLIGHTENMENT.

Malakittens is trying too hard right now to be town.

Everything she is doing is something that looks town especially to those familiar with her. Her vote of me for that reason is something that is

exactly

what I would

expect

Malakittens to do as town--but Malakittens

knows

I would expect her to do that as town.

Her perspectives are designed to look like they come from town and to earn the trust of others, and for most it would seem to have worked.

But I AM A SCUMHUNTING

GOD

, and I SEE through your LIES.

We must PURGE Malakittens from the game, much as it PAINS me to say. I would much prefer to keep her around, but I cannot abide by her SINS.

oh, mastina is possessed by Guillotina, problem solved.

Where in this post was “Enchant” ever written?

[Gamma Emerald]

I see that mastina has a high verbal working memory so I can't give them the whole benefit of the doubt as I suspect their argument here is easily improvised.

PEdit:

@Toogle

That's a bad read on Vivax, Toogleoo, throwing reads around like they think Town does is a bad look and Vivax should remain at the bottom of the PoE.

Allegedly you have some ability to read mastina so I'm curious if you've seen anything yet that indicates..anything.

>:/

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m skeptical as hell of mastina’s play rn but I will see how her reads shape up as that might be more readable

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll be forward with this ig, I half-expect mastina to be able to read me kinda well

[Gamma Emerald]

Thank you, Captain Obvious!

[Gamma Emerald]

HEAL: Mage Crest
Magic is everything!

[Gamma Emerald]

Best friends: I don't agree with friendly neighbor, I think that interpretation is based on the name of the trait rather than what it does in the source; I think this trait pairs people up in some way and gives a buff. Maybe just 1 pair for balance.

Mage crest: A mage emblem is an item that makes you count as having 1 additional mage on your team, for the purpose of set bonuses. This sounds pretty specific to the mage role so it's surprising to me that we have two people voting here right now.

Ancient Archives: A tome of traits gives you a choice between different emblems. I have no clue how that would translate to an ability here. Could be similar to mage crest but with different choices.

I think it’s obvious why Enchant picked Mage Crest but you didn’t know that I knew anything about that until now sooo

[Gamma Emerald]

185 seems pro Town to me.

It is not that I couldn't back this up, for were I to put the effort in, I could; it is that I saw no reason to put time into it because I have better uses of my time than proving what is already EVIDENT to me.

Finding scum is only half the battle, you need to convince others as well.

Sure 185 seems pro-Town but there was already substantial talk on the subject so scum!mastina may have felt compelled to spill her takes on the options. It’s NAI for me rn.

[Gamma Emerald]

Figure it out yourself.

[Gamma Emerald]

"Get angry easily" = 5

"Take charge" = 3

"Make people feel welcome" = 4

"Like music" = 5

"Like to tidy up" = 1

"Like to visit new places" = 4

"Feel comfortable around people" = 3

"Interested in many things" = 5

"Love order and regularity" = 3

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 2

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 4

"Cheer people up" = 5

"Lose my temper" = 4

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 3

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 3

"Cheat to get ahead" = 2

"Feel desperate" = 3

"Rarely overindulge" = 2

"Easily resist temptations" = 1

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 2

"Waste my time" = 4

"Need a push to get started" = 5

"Have little to contribute" = 2

"Keep my cool" = 2

"Avoid crowds" = 4

"Turn my back on others" = 1

[Gamma Emerald]

Nomsy does not hide their last visit activity on their profile.

The following players do hide that information on their profiles:

tictac
Dunnstral
Malakittens
Titus
Frogsterking
Vivax
Sara
Enchant
beeboy
Toogeloo

The following players do not:

mastina
Fredrick A Campbell
Yume
NDMath
SirCakez
Gamma Emerald
MeekMeerkat

Further sorting out players and I don't think that mastina, Yume, NDMath, or SirCakez would make that post. This makes me think that Nomsy is controlled by one of Fredrick A Campbell, Gamma Emerald, or MeekMeerkat.

Nomsy spoke a German phrase, so I searched those 3 isos for the word 'German'. Gamma Emerald is the only one who returned a hit

Spoiler:

Lol nice
For a second I thought was German and then I realized it’s wagen not vogn in German

Just something to think about. I guess it's possible that Nomsy is not hiding their activity for a different reason and I'm off base.

Normally, I'd hate this as rolefishing but I think Nomsy is scum sooo

HEAL: Archives

Nomsy, I think there's scum in the mage voters. Do you agree?

This feels like an off progression

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm feeling the absence of genuine Town Hunters in this game. I could use more Town reads from the following players I town lean.


Town leans:
Fred, Dunn, Mala, Gamma, Toogle, Meerkat,

Null/scum: rest

I kinda think Cakez might be town

[Gamma Emerald]

Occam's Razor suggests that mastina is Town who tone reads me as scum and is unwilling to let it go.

PEdit:

Gamma was in a Town game I used the survey in like a year ago (Gamma was scum.) It's pretty NAI. I was being sarcastic.

I have no memory of that game if it was a year ago

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: vivax i have read nothing yet

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

VOTE: Frederick
Ok this entrance sucked

I think the vivax vote was better
VOTE: Vivax
the repeated blathering about updating reads without actually interacting or expanding on them in a meaningful capacity is scummy-bad

how can you say that was a good vote when I said I hadn't read anything in the same post?

I don't really suspect frederick yet, is why

Ok and why do you suspect Vivax then

Read what I said in 126.

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85345

Here.

Oh that one
I liked it better in that game. This game’s just feels like something you’d find on a job interview

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the manner in which you’re posting it is performative because you can’t bother to actually try to fake a progression as scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Enchant is probably town based on how he’s handling this situation

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a secret scumread rn.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my turn for a random question. Without revealing your tag publicly, who here likes discord? I do.

I do

[Gamma Emerald]

HEAL: mage

I’m getting an impression that scum is least afraid of Best Friends, and none of the town speculations about it sound that appealing. (Neighborhoods are fun, but not always helpful).

Would also vote archive if that gained popularity.

This is a decent assessment

[Gamma Emerald]

Does mastina have a divergent town/scum meta?

Not really, and it’s probably harder to tell with this posting style even if she did

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Best Friends

Best Friends > Mages. Archives lost.

Confused by Vivax's 346.

Yeah it‘s for other recipients
I‘ve been had by design, but for a high price to the culprits who took advantage of it now that I know them
When you‘re me you are kept in the dark while the messages or gifts are intercepted

Man’s speaking in riddles, gotdamn

[Gamma Emerald]

Best Friends was chosen!

For the rest of this day phase, you may ask another person to form a neighborhood with you. If they accept, a neighborhood will form at the end of the day phase. These neighborhoods will be a maximum of two players, and open for the rest of the game. You may only be in one neighborhood formed through this augment.

These are optional, so feel free to be lonely!

Game continues!

This is about what I assumed would happen
I expected it to be exclusive to those who voted for it though

[Gamma Emerald]

RE; Toog: seen, but mobile, so no response. Short version, Fred is only scumread I agree with and I disagree on a couple or so townreads, can tackle more thoroughly later.

mastina, prove to me you're town and we might exceed mortal limits together...if I feel like it.

The PROOF of my DIVINE FAITH shall come with time. It shall require SACRIFICES in order to let me ASCEND, but once the FAITHFUL have EMPOWERED me, there shall be NO DOUBTS of my DIVINE WORD being PURE.

For in DEATH, lies the KEY to SALVATION.

I give my HOLY WORD that I possess a power no MORTAL SCUM could ever wield, especially were Nomsy to be controlled by the IMPURE. But it shall take until approximately the THIRD DAY for my TRUE STRENGTH to fully MANIFEST.

You may have reservations, and this is understandable. But know that my WORD is TRUE, and that my FAITH is to be REWARDED. Thus, know that I am the (C)LAW. My SCRIPTURE is JUST.

I heavily suspect this post!

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh wait. That's not a bad idea, actually. If multiple people's requests are accepted, we can all coordinate with mastina.

It’s already stated to not work this way

[Gamma Emerald]

By the way, how does voting for the Nomsy account help us? Do you think it will flip an alignment?

As far as I know, the slot is targetable and I lean mechanical scum on the slot. If it vanillaizes a scum, so be it.

As for accepting a hood, I'm going to need to think on that (hence why I didn't bold with Frogster). It'll be you or him though.

Why not me ;-;

[Gamma Emerald]

Why you stopped talk like 999 ego god?

What does 999 mean here?

[Gamma Emerald]

lol why would mala want to know that? We have history together so her wanting to hood with me makes sense
I think my prospective hoodmates rn are mala, meerkat, and Titus, but since Titus doesn't seem interested that leaves mala and meerkat
I want to finish reading, take some time to assess my options, and then write up a fancy acceptance for whoever I do chose, so it'll be some time before I do so.

[Gamma Emerald]

Does mastina have a divergent town/scum meta?

Oh yes, quite strongly so at that, but what the town meta is and what the scum meta is, shift over time.

Some years my townplay is the scumplay of prior years, and vice versa. One is always strongly different from the other though and the closer they approach to identical, the sooner a radical shift where they invert is likely to occur.

That said, I don't actually know what my meta is like for either alignment right now.

It's been like six months, maybe longer, since I've had a regular game as either alignment, meaning that I don't have a recent meta as either alignment.

My last game was multiball (which inherently diverts from the norm), and I spent three months just trolling the dead thread that game.

...Speaking of Dead tho...

I am the MASTER of DEATH. Those who have FALLEN shall find me as their SHEPHERD, as I offer their FINAL SALVATION.

Not fucking happening, Sanae Kochiya.

[Gamma Emerald]

I would have asked Titus but she’s been ignoring me all game so

Oh well

this kinda biases me towards picking Mala because being snubbed by Titus makes me kinda think she might be scum afraid to hood with me bcuz I'll catch her like I did before, and Mala bringing this up reinforces that feeling

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I'm gonna wait to see how Meerkat responds to a certain post of mine, if I get a particular reaction I'll hood with him for sure.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are people hunting for an imposter in thread?
That strikes me as like odd and wolfy but too many people are doing it.

???
wtf are you talking about?

[Gamma Emerald]

Frogsterking, would you work with me? I would like someone who thinks the opposite of me that I think is town.

Is this why you weren't interested in pairing with me, Titus?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I'm gonna wait to see how Meerkat responds to a certain post of mine, if I get a particular reaction I'll hood with him for sure.

Can I have a hint

one of my posts talked about being in a hood with Titus recently
do you know what I meant by it?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Frogsterking I got a better idea. I would want your consent but I am not sure how to get it. I need you to be friends with someone first. Ideally town.

Mala, Gamma, Meerkat I think are Town

Mala or Meek please. Then I'll try to figure how to get a modicum of informed consent.

oh hell yeah, 6-person polycule time?

[Gamma Emerald]

there's not a secret deeper meaning behind my rvs, no.

here's a real one
VOTE: gamma
like, i get not having early iso-read on mastina.
it's the characterization of the character-bit she's ding as obfuscating i do object to.
all the regular mastina-bits i could normally see are plainly visible here, so feels like excuses 4 what doesn't need excusing really.
and who needs 2 iso-read mastina w yume going on like she is?

--second post--
whom wants a neighbor? waste not, want not. gonna be inactive fair warn.
also dunn, did i get all ur q's?

bruh
of all the stuff I've posted about mastina you think the worst is me characterizing her posting style this game as obfuscating is the worst?
I kinda get that, it's shading from a certain PoV, but I also consider it just about fact.
also who said anything about ISO reading mastina? You're kinda making shit up here.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Would add that when I characterized mastinas play as histrionic, GE asked me about it as if it was supposed to be in her defense.
When it was obviously meant in a positive way considering that it was a reason for me to write off masti as D1 lim. Histrionic in mafia is fun tee hee.

So it reads like a botched attempt at whiteknighting a town to me

dafuq?

[Gamma Emerald]

That said, my read on mastina is probably twisted by seeing histrionic text which is a D1 free pass in my books

what makes it histrionic?
My bet is she has a post restriction

I posted this because calling mastina "histrionic" felt kinda offensive

[Gamma Emerald]

That said, my read on mastina is probably twisted by seeing histrionic text which is a D1 free pass in my books

what makes it histrionic?
My bet is she has a post restriction

It‘s my cup of mumbojumbo, but intended at keeping town from yeeting scum

was this a typo btw?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald I'm okay with wagoning here. I didn't like this jump on Mala's reasoning for FoSing me.

Yeah no you should absolutely understand my reasons for feeling the way I do. You're lockscum now.
VOTE: Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

like I didn't just back Mala without my own reasoning, I had logic of my own, and to dismiss it is a bona fide scumclaim from Titus!

[Gamma Emerald]

I think townreading mastina is extremely foolish and if anyone ends up letting her win the game for scum I can't guarantee I'm not gonna hold it over you for a really long time. I'm trying to be less toxic about that sort of thing but I saw a scum role that kinda matches what mastina has been talking about in the capitalized words in concept. Notably, she seems to be claiming the final "miracle" ability of the fakeclaim role PM of that scum role.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who are these lowposters you think we should focus on? And given the fact you’re voting for me currently, try moving out of that glass house you’re living in!

[Gamma Emerald]

what is the final "miracle" ability?

I will clarify that after someone specific engages that point

[Gamma Emerald]

Not her but someone close to her

[Gamma Emerald]

Who?

You!

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina, form a neighborhood with me? I'll be your Cu.

I accept

Thank you. And if I interpreted right, my role works well with yours umu.

It would please me greatly were my ways as a SAVIOR not a lonely path. Sadly, mine is a path where only my FOLLOWERS shall impart extra POWER in me.

Which is to say: You probably aren't interpreting my role right.

Only in DEATH shall there be UNDERSTANDING.

But for those who PASS, they shall KNOW the TRUTH. For in DEATH, they have the KEY to SALVATION. They need only ACCEPT me as their SAVIOR.

Should I obtain eleven DEVOUT SOULS, then I reach my ULTIMATE FORM, having become a TRUE GOD AMONG MEN.

KNEW IT!

[Gamma Emerald]

The prayers of many have reached Sanae Kochiya in their dying moments, bolstering her power and fueling her ascension to godhood.

As her power waxes she reaches her 13th prayer and creates a miracle, ascending to divinity and winning the game for her team.

Sakura Hana was Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Sakura Hana. You are Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess. You are a Mafia Faith-Collecting Deity.

Something like winning a match can't be compared to a miracle!

Prayers to Moriya (Faith-Dependent): Every time a town-aligned player dies, they will have the option to pray to you. As you receive prayers, you will gain stronger and stronger 1-use power roles.

Shrine Maiden (Loved): At 3 prayers you become loved for the remainder of the game. This modifier ceases to work in XLo.
Mighty Wind (1-Shot Strongman Ninja Vigilante): At 5 prayers once per game you may target a player for a nightkill that will use both the strongman and ninja modifiers. This is independent of the factional nightkill.
Gray Thaumaturgy (Triple Role Cop): At 7 prayers once per game you can discover 3 roles. This ability cannot be roleblocked.
Forgotten Ritual (Mass Roleblock): At 10 prayers, you can roleblock every town-aligned player together. This supercedes all other actions.
OR
Forgotten Ritual (1-Shot Loyal Vig): At 10 prayers, you can target a player with a Loyal Vig action.
Miracle (Non-standard Win Condition): At 13 prayers, you can cause a miracle and win the game instantly for your team.
Mafia (Mafia): You are aligned with the Mafia and can discuss the game with your teammates here.

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Your fakeclaim is as follows:

Welcome, Sakura Hana. You are Sanae Kochiya, Wind Priestess. You are a Faith-Collecting Deity.

Something like winning a match can't be compared to a miracle!

Prayers to Moriya (Faith-Dependent): Every time a town-aligned player dies, they will have the option to pray to you. As you receive prayers, you will gain stronger and stronger 1-use power roles.

Shrine Maiden (Loved): At 3 prayers you become loved for the remainder of the game. This modifier ceases to work in XLo.
Mighty Wind (1-Shot Parity Cop): At 5 prayers once per game you may target two player and learn whether they are the same alignment or different.
Gray Thaumaturgy (Triple Role Cop): At 7 prayers once per game you can discover 3 roles. This ability cannot be interfered with.
Forgotten Ritual (2-Shot Disloyal Vig): At 10 prayers, you can pick two players and disloyally vig them, killing them if they are not on your team.
Miracle (Divine Ascension): At 13 prayers, you leave the game. As you leave, you are given the full scumteam and have the option of strongman killing one of your choice.

You win when the Mafia have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Anything uPick has ended!

Behold the truth of the “miracle”!
Do not be swayed by mastina’s silver tongue! Though she is likely something resembling what she claims to be, she is only that: a facsimile of holiness. Any powers she proclaims to be using for the greater good are more likely used for personal gain!

[Gamma Emerald]

For real tho, I do have powers that make me effectively conftown. Four of them, in fact.
Scum might have one or two, but having all four is something that couldn't be balanced.

But the soonest I can reveal what these are is circa the start of the third day, and that's if everything goes well. I legit do need others to help me because if nobody does, I basically am a VT. But if everyone does help, I have some ridiculously broken abilities. And you can see them starting around D3, if I get help.

So KNOW that while it requires a LEAP OF FAITH, your BELIEF shall be REWARDED in POWERS that are too GREAT for any MORTAL to hold, but which I by my DIVINE HERITAGE may POSSESS and UNLEASH.

This actually seems fair enough. If the powers came further down the line I’d be distrusting but D3 is FAR from the 11 people stated before unless there’s a bazillion killing roles.

[Gamma Emerald]

Pls let me try to sort Malakittens? I think I can manage it

[Gamma Emerald]

if we aint limming toogleoogle them lim malakit while they v/la and cant defend themselves imho

VOTE: Nomsy
“Fuck you” vote for daring to suggest this

[Gamma Emerald]

if we aint limming toogleoogle them lim malakit while they v/la and cant defend themselves imho

Well that’s a shitty way to play and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you do this and I do find your main I’ll make sure that a policy lim is in order for the anti town play

I will join you in this

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina would you trust me and Frogsterking with that role information? Your role applies to your slot? I'll address Gamma in a bit.

How long is “in a bit”?

[Gamma Emerald]

But I have a condition of my own. Your townfirm powers better trigger when you say they would or I will cease the partnership.

I'll claim them and when/how they trigger, yeah.

Pls let me try to sort Malakittens? I think I can manage it

It is your RIGHT to REJECT my PATH, but KNOW the CONSEQUENCES of such lay with you.

Oh please, spare me the ego trip. I have reasonable confidence I can read Mala based on recent games. Do you? I will be doing legwork to check behind you if you say yes.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina would you trust me and Frogsterking with that role information? Your role applies to your slot? I'll address Gamma in a bit.

How long is “in a bit”?

Got distracted. I recall the game (but not the name of it) that you mention. I highly doubt it's a duplicate role or that mastina had knowledge of Sakura Hana's play there. I don't think mastina's play is scum oriented as scum mastina could have easily forced me to spend a fair amount of social capital defending Yume.

That’s good but what about the matter with the neighborhoods?

[Gamma Emerald]

Second, if you could conftown yourself, you might just conftown all three of us but I'd need your consent. If you wouldn't trust Frogsterking, there's no way you'd consent most likely.

Titus I'm gonna be honest with you;
My townread on you is because you look like scum right now and if you look like scum on D1 you are probably town.

But if I see you protecting my scumreads when I know you protect your scumbuddies, it inspires...shall we say...

skepticism

in placing trust in you.

I'm quite aware that I could be wrong on said scumreads being scum and you trusting them could be correct. But when you look like scum to me (and my townread is based on how much you look like scum) and are protecting scumreads of mine, I cannot in good faith place trust in you even if it later turns out that you are town and so too were your protectees.

So I cannot consent to such a request. I believe for now you to be a CHAMPION of JUSTICE and have asked for you to be TREATED as such, but the TRUST does not extend to trusting those you say

you

trust. Not on the FIRST DAY given these circumstances, at least.

This feels like an ancient way of reading Titus

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina would you trust me and Frogsterking with that role information? Your role applies to your slot? I'll address Gamma in a bit.

How long is “in a bit”?

Got distracted. I recall the game (but not the name of it) that you mention. I highly doubt it's a duplicate role or that mastina had knowledge of Sakura Hana's play there. I don't think mastina's play is scum oriented as scum mastina could have easily forced me to spend a fair amount of social capital defending Yume.

That’s good but what about the matter with the neighborhoods?

I'm playing my neighborhood thoughts closer to the chest for the time being. The only player who I feel confident that might pick up on my strategy is Yume but that might be a bit much for her to see.

Okay, but you called me scummy for agreeing with Mala when

YOU KNOW DAMN WELL

why I’d have a problem with you blowing me off!

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina would you trust me and Frogsterking with that role information? Your role applies to your slot? I'll address Gamma in a bit.

How long is “in a bit”?

Got distracted. I recall the game (but not the name of it) that you mention. I highly doubt it's a duplicate role or that mastina had knowledge of Sakura Hana's play there. I don't think mastina's play is scum oriented as scum mastina could have easily forced me to spend a fair amount of social capital defending Yume.

That’s good but what about the matter with the neighborhoods?

I'm playing my neighborhood thoughts closer to the chest for the time being. The only player who I feel confident that might pick up on my strategy is Yume but that might be a bit much for her to see.

Strategy Table?

Bananas and Apples

ohgodnowhy
I thought Ovaltine shenanigans were just about gone!?

[Gamma Emerald]

Fine I’ll go after the main who I believe it is. Tell me if you disagree.

VOTE: meerkat

wut
Meerkat is also an alt??? So this would mean you also know Meerkat’s main?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, but you called me scummy for agreeing with Mala when YOU KNOW DAMN WELL why I’d have a problem with you blowing me off!

The fact is you only mentioned it after Mala did and you directed nothing to me and you failed to recognize things that based upon your mindset I would expect you to pick up (and I'm not ready to explain those publicly yet). If you had attempted to interact with me at all, I might be charitable. Instead, I favored those people who interacted with me. You aren't entitled to a hood with me for existing.

I think your timeline is wrong. Also, I did notice you mentioned something that might pass for a reason to not want a hood with me, but I missed it originally. And by the time I saw it, you’d already gone ahead and accused me, so I saw no reason to give you any benefit of the doubt.

[Gamma Emerald]

By the way, how does voting for the Nomsy account help us? Do you think it will flip an alignment?

As far as I know, the slot is targetable and I lean mechanical scum on the slot. If it vanillaizes a scum, so be it.

As for accepting a hood, I'm going to need to think on that (hence why I didn't bold with Frogster). It'll be you or him though.

Why not me ;-;

lol why would mala want to know that? We have history together so her wanting to hood with me makes sense
I think my prospective hoodmates rn are mala, meerkat, and Titus, but since Titus doesn't seem interested that leaves mala and meerkat
I want to finish reading, take some time to assess my options, and then write up a fancy acceptance for whoever I do chose, so it'll be some time before I do so.

I would have asked Titus but she’s been ignoring me all game so

Oh well

this kinda biases me towards picking Mala because being snubbed by Titus makes me kinda think she might be scum afraid to hood with me bcuz I'll catch her like I did before, and Mala bringing this up reinforces that feeling

I guess I only mentioned the scum feelings once Mala brought it up, but my feelings were on my sleeve from the start. And this reminds me, part of my issue is that Mala wasn’t involved with the game where I saw you being obvscum in a hood, and it felt like you tried to act like I was only following Mala.

[Gamma Emerald]

This feels like an ancient way of reading Titus

Perhaps, but the OLD WAYS are sometimes still the BEST WAYS.

In this particular case, it is not any sort of POLICY, but rather an analysis of her contributions, looking into the mindset, motive, and intent behind them, viewed through the lens of how her posts appear.

Titus's posts appear suspect in a fairly notable manner. There is much about her conduct that is suspect. However, it is my belief that were she among the DAMNED, her focus would be in places setting up for the future without an obvious visible trail to follow.

In this game, her plans are out in the open. It is certainly possible to have over-thought this and the RED TRAIL is that of scum not bothering to cover tracks. However, my belief is that it would not be so blatant were Titus actually scum, and that her play is thus indicative of a town player unaware of the STAIN she appears to leave in her WAKE.

Thus, CHAMPION of JUSTICE, not CRIMINAL SCUM.

I don’t know if Titus plays exactly the same but I try to work towards confounding trails for when I flip as scum. My endgame equity as scum is rather bad, so it’s better to set up partners by creating as much seemingly-useful noise as possible.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lmao I didn’t think a game was gonna get named any time soon
I’ll give this Ovaltine fun time a thumbs-up

[Gamma Emerald]

I vastly prefer a name actually being dropped!

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I probably won’t go looking for details, but being able to is at least nice

[Gamma Emerald]

Fine I’ll go after the main who I believe it is. Tell me if you disagree.

VOTE: meerkat

wut
Meerkat is also an alt??? So this would mean you also know Meerkat’s main?

I thought nosmy was an extra spot of an original player in this game? So like nomsy is essentially an double voter of the player
Am i misreading the mechanic part of this

I do think Nomsy is an extra slot for a player
I just think saying “I think Nomsy is Meerkat for these tonal reasons” implies you know Meerkat’s main?

[Gamma Emerald]

God I so want to PURGE the voters on me.
May your beds be infested with bed bugs

LMAOOOO

[Gamma Emerald]

Well. I blew it. I must be punished.

But at least it wasn't a big mistake. Like revealing my role. Now that would be a big mistake.

Why is it being revealed a bad thing?

[Gamma Emerald]

flavor

VOTE COUNT 1.05

[5]

Nomsy

: Fredrick A Campbell, Gamma Emerald, Titus, Yume, Vivax
[3]

Vivax

: Frogsterking, Toogeloo, NDMath
[2]

Malakittens

: Mastina, Nomsy
[1]

tictac

: MeekMeerkat
[1]

Titus

: Sara
[1]

Fredrick A Campbell

: SirCakez
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: tictac
[1]

MeekMeerkat

: Malakittens

[3]

Not voting

: Enchant, beeboy, Dunnstral

—

Yume offers to mastina.

Nomsy offers to mastina.

Malakittens offers to Gamma Emerald.

Dunnstral offers to Titus.

MeekMeerkat offers to Gamma Emerald.

Nomsy offers to NDMath.

Nomsy offers to Titus.

NDMath accepts Nomsy. They form a neighborhood.

mastina accepts Yume. They form a neighborhood.

Titus accepts Dunnstral. They form a neighborhood.

Frogsterking offers to Titus.

Frogsterking offers to MeekMeerkat.
Frogsterking offers to Malakittens.
Enchant offers to Malakittens.
—

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to eliminate.

Day one ends in (expired on 2022-08-29 20:29:02).

MOD NOTES

• have fun!

• let us know if you have any questions or if something's wrong!

Joint Mod ISO

Okay so I was off the mark
I thought Vivax could be Nomsy for a sec

[Gamma Emerald]

Fine I’ll go after the main who I believe it is. Tell me if you disagree.

VOTE: meerkat

wut
Meerkat is also an alt??? So this would mean you also know Meerkat’s main?

I thought nosmy was an extra spot of an original player in this game? So like nomsy is essentially an double voter of the player
Am i misreading the mechanic part of this

I do think Nomsy is an extra slot for a player
I just think saying “I think Nomsy is Meerkat for these tonal reasons” implies you know Meerkat’s main?

No I don’t know meerkats main and I’m not going to dig for it.

I’m saying if you place meerkat & nosmy together the posts are very similar: ie emjos/tone/caps etc

The only one who would come close to nosmy who was my first guess was marhblads but if nosmy is being CONTROLLED by a player IN this game then mathblade is out

…

[Gamma Emerald]

Well yes, that is my plan. To coordinate a very large communication hub. However, it requires absolute trust amongst the three players in the center and a decent amount of trust in the spokes.

(Someone could determine that now that the name has been dropped.)

Unless Frogsterking rejects my proposal (which is set to trigger upon him being friended), it will become apparently obvious how I intended to do this and why it requires absolute consent from the players in the center.

Who are the players in the center?

At the moment, just me. I expect Frogsterking soon. Then, I was hoping for mastina.
The spokes would be Dunnstral, Frogsterking's friend and you.

I wanted mala because I townread her and it would help us sort out our differences but with mastina being so far against malakittens and Frogster, I'm a bit worried about the viability and may have to change the center.

If you’re willing to trust me, could me and meerkat replace frog and mala?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well yes, that is my plan. To coordinate a very large communication hub. However, it requires absolute trust amongst the three players in the center and a decent amount of trust in the spokes.

(Someone could determine that now that the name has been dropped.)

Unless Frogsterking rejects my proposal (which is set to trigger upon him being friended), it will become apparently obvious how I intended to do this and why it requires absolute consent from the players in the center.

Who are the players in the center?

At the moment, just me. I expect Frogsterking soon. Then, I was hoping for mastina.
The spokes would be Dunnstral, Frogsterking's friend and you.

I wanted mala because I townread her and it would help us sort out our differences but with mastina being so far against malakittens and Frogster, I'm a bit worried about the viability and may have to change the center.

If you’re willing to trust me, could me and meerkat replace frog and mala?

I am not willing to trust you. I don't have the absolute faith required to add either of you to the center. Frogsterking would also realistically need to sign off on that once he accepts. He trusts you but still. I think he'd honor my request to not be a jerk.

Could you at least

try

to work with me then? I’m trying to reconcile my concerns with your play, it doesn’t feel like you’re doing the same back. I think if we’re both town we need to work to find that out rather than be at odds.

[Gamma Emerald]

yall chill with trying to lim either of my accounts. this account has a bodyguard night ability and will self resolve. i empathize with disliking my comment about malakit and i had reasons for doing it which i softed earlier:

VOTE: malakitens

to cook

malakit townspewa in response to pressure was my goal.

truce? UNVOTE: malakit just let nomsy account self resolve. voting this account d1 is waste of d1 lim.

Question about this: is it correct that voting out your other account also kills this one? If so, I think it’s much better for all involved if your other slot claims this one whenever they claim.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I do think it’s fair to leave Nomsy be for now
There’s a good number of “confirmable” claims already tho and that slightly concerns me.

[Gamma Emerald]

If Meerkat doesn’t return and actually give me the response I need (doesn’t have to be the response I WANT, mind) in like 14 hours, I’m pairing with Mala by default.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
I do think it’s fair to leave Nomsy be for now
There’s a good number of “confirmable” claims already tho and that slightly concerns me.

I never saw any.

There’s Mastina, mala, Nomsy, maybe others
Maybe some are calling them confirmable as in the role is confirmable, not their alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I kinda wanna be involved in the Shipwheel Alliance as I’m gonna call it, because my secret scumread is one I’d feel better sharing in a hood than with the whole thread, at least before I’m 100% on it, but I want my partner held accountable to make sure that read gets shared if I die

[Gamma Emerald]

If Meerkat doesn’t return and actually give me the response I need (doesn’t have to be the response I WANT, mind) in like 14 hours, I’m pairing with Mala by default.

Second choice always, never the first.

You’re not really a worse choice than Meerkat, there is that one thing that would make me insta-choose him but it’s maybe a long shot
This is mostly me lighting a fire under his ass because he left before acknowledging my response to his question about what I wanted from him.

[Gamma Emerald]

There’s a good number of “confirmable” claims already tho and that slightly concerns me.

This is a SIGN that perhaps you should not place FAITH in all of them to be TRUE.
VOTE: NDMath

My preferred PURGE would be on either Malakittens or Frogsterking for their great SINS, but I know there to be resistance there.
As we can eliminate Nomsy through their slot holder and folks wish to spare the bodyguard, that is also not an option.

That leaves SirCakez and NDMath as options, and while the SINS of SirCakez exceed those of NDMath, NDMath has still committed the SIN of voting my CHAMPION of JUSTICE, Vivax.

VOTE: NDMath
Out of Cakez and Math, I definitely prefer this as I think Cakez is town here, and I have a VERY REAL BoP on Cakez that I am willing to flex!

[Gamma Emerald]

Ugh. You know why I use hoods so being out of this ship wheel is gonna fuck my engagement up. I’m actually having fun even tho I got ppl trying to yeet me

I will try to pick up the slack if we end up paired and outside it, I don’t wanna screw you over AGAIN.

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s why I haven’t personally accepte enchanted yet. Bc I know he hates hoods so much and I like them bc I use them as a mason chat & do things with them that I don’t do in thread
Sometimes I use it to bitch tho lmao

Someone is gonna end up 17th wheel, why not Enchant?

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually want to vote fuckers who forced best friends.

NDMath is acolyte of mage supremacy.

I know you dislike hoods but if this Shipwheel Alliance ends up taking off I think this choice would end up as an absolute win. I’m interested in the greater good.

[Gamma Emerald]

what the FUCK

[Gamma Emerald]

She’s already paired

[Gamma Emerald]

What shipwheel alliance

You know what, I'm with Vivax, I'm sandbagging really hard and you shouldn't read me as town. I'm not really sure why I would be included in a town block

The center-and-spokes plan Titus has

[Gamma Emerald]

Does a scumteam with Mala on it makes that shot?
I think returning to NDMath might be best

[Gamma Emerald]

I will kill whoever shot there.

I might consider replacing out unless something happens that'll keep me in the game.

Ask to join with Frogster please. I'm not sure if he'll accept you but that would be a good idea.

I'm pretty sure shooting mastina was a scumshot. The only way I'll consider it wasn't is if it is claimed today.

This is what I’m thinking as well regarding the shot

[Gamma Emerald]

I think shooter pretends to be offline.

vivax, gamma, malakit, dunn, yume, nomsy, titus, enchant were recently active when the shot occurred ftr. vivax stopped postinv about 50 min before the shot occured. its circumstantial but it the best i got.

Dunnstral’s post on page 1 might be useful here

[Gamma Emerald]

I will not be forming a hood with Yume because experience has proven our chemistry is awful.

[Gamma Emerald]

Knowing Yume, I’m pretty sure she’s being real here

[Gamma Emerald]

So wait, how was this supposed to have a three-person center?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think the attempted precautions by Titus are almost assuredly town tho

[Gamma Emerald]

So the only question is Frog’s alignment when it comes to reading Legends
Also, if one person in Legends is scum, do both players in it win with scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

ig that’s kinda stupid to ask because they wouldn’t tell if the answer was yes

[Gamma Emerald]

Up!

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Hey
What the fuck are you voting me for?

[Gamma Emerald]

Meerkat is online rn btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: post 808 by Gamma Emerald

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Hey
What the fuck are you voting me for?

Well, I'll keep that to myself.

Then prepare for death, as I refuse to tolerate bad FoSes on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Please use full sentences, it’s hard to tell what you mean otherwise

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma:
Will you be my hoodRatmate with me ?

I humbly accept this noble request.

Not as flowery as I’d have liked but it’s the best I’m willing to muster.
To be very clear, I made my mind recently to pick Mala barring the insta-choose condition for Meerkat being met, and it was not.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Wall of assorted read thoughts

Tictac’s read on me sucks ass, I think he’s trying to push the most surface-level scummy thing he could have found to push me, and I also expect better after he’s seen scum!me a couple times recently
I’m cool with a Sara lim, I don’t know exactly what to make of her confusion but I get bad vibes from it
I think Titus is obvtown based on how she clearly was actively trying to make her role as pro-town as possible by curbing possible downsides, so I do not sympathize with anyone pushing her at this point. And to make this clear now that the parameters are cleared for this, the game which I was referring to where Titus was obvscum in a hood was Mini Normal 2272.
I would very much still appreciate if Fred could elucidate me on his progression on me and maybe some other slots (can’t think of anything I have particular interest in so it’s his choice of what to expand on if he does so, aside from me specifically wanting him to explain his thought on me). He waffles from me being town to naked voting me to backing off, which is concerning. My immediate conclusion is he thought I was an easy push based on outdated content but swiftly realized I was townposting more recently.
I’m softly mindmelding with Meerkat here, which means while our reads don’t match I think I see his thought process and it tracks.
Meerkat also has a solid point regarding Nomsy that Titus’ role makes Nomsy’s existence potentially overpowering if they and their controller are scum.
I want to see what beeboy does going forward but I think Fred’s vote there is okayish.
Yume is locktown, doubt I need to explain why I feel this way
Toog of town I think should have done something spicey by now, so I think they can be scum
Mala I still trust rn
Frogster I thought was somewhat towny irt, I think I wanna double check that with an ISO read
Still think Vivax is sketchy
Still think Enchant is fine
NDMath idk how I feel, he’s basically always been a question mark in any game I’ve played with him?
Cakez I still think is town

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: vivax i have read nothing yet

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

VOTE: Frederick
Ok this entrance sucked

I think the vivax vote was better
VOTE: Vivax
the repeated blathering about updating reads without actually interacting or expanding on them in a meaningful capacity is scummy-bad

how can you say that was a good vote when I said I hadn't read anything in the same post?

VOTE: vivax i have read nothing yet

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

VOTE: Frederick
Ok this entrance sucked

I think the vivax vote was better
VOTE: Vivax
the repeated blathering about updating reads without actually interacting or expanding on them in a meaningful capacity is scummy-bad

how can you say that was a good vote when I said I hadn't read anything in the same post?

I don't really suspect frederick yet, is why

Ok and why do you suspect Vivax then

This interaction with me didn’t feel agenda-driven, typically as scum Cakez almost wears his agenda on his sleeve at least on the spectrum of things I perceive

HEAL: MAGE CREST

I think Titus could be scum bc usually I can tell when she's town really quickly and it hasn't happened yet

This read made sense for Cakez to have imo, and it doesn’t feel like he’s being compelled to fake this pursuit.

Not doing that bs survey

I feel like if he were scum he’s have maybe tried to shade Frog here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina town

Meerkat - W
Dunn - W

This one is not updating

I had to scroll a bit to check, you TRed beebs earlier and I take this to mean that doesn't change, why do you TR beebs?

"Legends" has discussed reads during coffee break and has decided not to specify which hydra head feels which way. This is being done in order to avoid pocketing attempts by scum!

Legends has decided to make the following statements:

1) Legends believes Tic tac is scum.

2) Legends believes the following players are Town and has a request for them.

• @Mala
  @Gamma
  @Meerkat
  @Dunnstral
  @SirCakez replacement
  @Yume

Legends believes you're all Town. Yay!

Legends requests updated reads lists from each of you at your earliest opportunity to write one.

Thank you for your time!
-Frog

I kinda posted reads earlier but they were just thoughtflow and I also think I left Dunn out so I'll probably post something more concise later

[Gamma Emerald]

Read list

Solidly town :
Yume
Titus

Decently town :
MeekMeerkat
SirCakez
Malakittens
Nomsy

Kinda town :
Frogsterking
Enchant
Dunnstral
NDMath

Blegh :
beeboy

kinda sus :
Fredrick A Campbell
Toogeloo
tictac

Very sus :
Vivax
Sara

I will say tho

Well

Town: Vivax, you, me
Scum: Mala, Nomsy
Null: Everybody else

I am disappointed you named those 2 people in particular as scumreads, Yume

[Gamma Emerald]

I will say tho

Well

Town: Vivax, you, me
Scum: Mala, Nomsy
Null: Everybody else

I am disappointed you named those 2 people in particular as scumreads, Yume

Well, tell me why they are town. In particular, Nomsy's sr is truly mine. Mala's was inherited from mastina, as I believe she is usually right when she sr's someone like that, having seen it happen in previous games. So tell me why do you think she's not in this game. Or why is trying to lim someone while they're v/la is towny.

My issue isn’t so much “I think they’re town” as it is “they’re suboptimal pushes currently”

Spoiler: post 884 by Gamma Emerald

Spoiler: Wall of assorted read thoughts

Tictac’s read on me sucks ass, I think he’s trying to push the most surface-level scummy thing he could have found to push me, and I also expect better after he’s seen scum!me a couple times recently
I’m cool with a Sara lim, I don’t know exactly what to make of her confusion but I get bad vibes from it
I think Titus is obvtown based on how she clearly was actively trying to make her role as pro-town as possible by curbing possible downsides, so I do not sympathize with anyone pushing her at this point. And to make this clear now that the parameters are cleared for this, the game which I was referring to where Titus was obvscum in a hood was Mini Normal 2272.
I would very much still appreciate if Fred could elucidate me on his progression on me and maybe some other slots (can’t think of anything I have particular interest in so it’s his choice of what to expand on if he does so, aside from me specifically wanting him to explain his thought on me). He waffles from me being town to naked voting me to backing off, which is concerning. My immediate conclusion is he thought I was an easy push based on outdated content but swiftly realized I was townposting more recently.
I’m softly mindmelding with Meerkat here, which means while our reads don’t match I think I see his thought process and it tracks.
Meerkat also has a solid point regarding Nomsy that Titus’ role makes Nomsy’s existence potentially overpowering if they and their controller are scum.
I want to see what beeboy does going forward but I think Fred’s vote there is okayish.
Yume is locktown, doubt I need to explain why I feel this way
Toog of town I think should have done something spicey by now, so I think they can be scum
Mala I still trust rn
Frogster I thought was somewhat towny irt, I think I wanna double check that with an ISO read
Still think Vivax is sketchy
Still think Enchant is fine
NDMath idk how I feel, he’s basically always been a question mark in any game I’ve played with him?
Cakez I still think is town

"I would very much still appreciate if Fred could elucidate me on his progression on me and maybe some other slots (can’t think of anything I have particular interest in so it’s his choice of what to expand on if he does so, aside from me specifically wanting him to explain his thought on me)."

My read on you was initially null until I read your ISO. It became a very slight townlean after I read your ISO. I then placed a random vote on you. The reaction I got was, unfortunately for me, kind of useless to read you. It is thus my read on you is still a very slight townlean.

That is kind of all I remember. I'm sure the actual progression has a lot more fluctuations after I started to pay attention to your posts.

This is acceptable

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma:
Will you be my hoodRatmate with me ?

I humbly accept this noble request.

Not as flowery as I’d have liked but it’s the best I’m willing to muster.
To be very clear, I made my mind recently to pick Mala barring the insta-choose condition for Meerkat being met, and it was not.

@Pooky + Ydrasse

[Gamma Emerald]

That was mostly to Gamma.

Also, I am already paired up.

I’m sorry I can’t be online all the time??? Jesus

[Gamma Emerald]

This is exactly why us being in a hood was a bad idea

[Gamma Emerald]

What the eff is a , "doot?"

https://youtu.be/WTWyosdkx44

[Gamma Emerald]

marcistar replaces SirCakez

awesomeness

Why is NDMath scum? I kinda TRed that burst of posting right around when I posted my read list

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d also prefer no hammer until Pooky acknowledges me and Mala joining up

fixed - ydra

[Gamma Emerald]

Marci’s content is aight so far

VOTE: NDMath for game momentum

lol

GAME MOMENTUM

do u guys know eachother

Not yet but maybe someday in this life or another
Depends on how much more stupid the leadership wants to get

Lol

[Gamma Emerald]

2) Legends believes the following players are Town and has a request for them.

@SirCakez replacement

no thank you!! i think ur scum frog

jk.. maybe? :raised_eyebrow: might fuck around and give reads later but the scumread on yous serious

What, why?
I think it’s important to sort frog given the mechanics of the legends slot

[Gamma Emerald]

dont overly care about having one or not

if i get one thats pretty fromis but if not i wont cry about it.
im fine with toog,

though i kinda sorta wanted to be with beeboy if they come back or maybe even meerkat.

Everyone seems to be avoiding hooding with me.

Maybe because it’s a waste of time and effort

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: beeboy
Was gonna hold this for tomorrow but he was my secret SR from earlier

[Gamma Emerald]

how is beeboy a legit scumread anyone has what have they even done

i dont remember seeinf a single post fron them..

I kinda think his town/scum meta are divergent that he can be read on 7 posts
He sounds wooden here, rather than natural. Wanna guess which alignment thosw trend towards for him?

[Gamma Emerald]

Just remembered the exact post I was scumreading them for

post 448

i did think that was weird but why would a scum post that

why would a town post it

how is beeboy a legit scumread anyone has what have they even done

i dont remember seeinf a single post fron them..

I kinda think his town/scum meta are divergent that he can be read on 7 posts
He sounds wooden here, rather than natural. Wanna guess which alignment thosw trend towards for him?

VOTE: Mastina

Good chance this slot is scum.

Let’s yeet.

Also I need to be the hammerer guys on any of the eliminations.

Is it a garbo read to say making this connection is townie?
Like don't you say "oh they keep rolling scum and are therefore definitely going to be town now" if you were scum over thinking your opening shit posts.

Townie post, and even with a good point about Mala
What's wooden about BBs posts?

For all I know Meerkats last appearance was almost meme-y , don't know how you can miss that and the following thread emergency ejection. That's not a player who seems to be a lowposter as of usual. Last time they put a lot of effort in they managed to give off townie vibes to me.

One sec

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84949
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=84286
The first link is a beeboy scumgame, the second is a beeboy towngame. I feel like it’s rather apparent beeboy has been posting more like the former than the latter.

re: Meerkat: read his sig lol
Him being meme-y is NAI

[Gamma Emerald]

Both of those links are to games that are 2 and a half years old

Okay and? I don’t think beeboy really could have shifted his meta in that time.
Plus, you’re not rlly the target audience for that post

[Gamma Emerald]

Marci, enchant might be as bad as NK15 was in 2268

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe it’ll be different but someone said enchant hates hoods and I believe that

[Gamma Emerald]

If you wanna go ahead, I just remember you being upset when NK15 snubbed you so I wanted to give warning

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you actually think Marci is scumposting or is this just mask-off paranoia?

[Gamma Emerald]

Just know I’m gonna troll you if you’re wrong
I felt good enough about Cakez and my bar for Marci is low enough I still consider that slot towm

[Gamma Emerald]

How many votes is NDMath at
I think that’s the “safest” vote but idr how many people are there rn

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: NDMath

[Gamma Emerald]

Vivax is a scumfuck 100%
Of all the attack vector to try against legends, you’re going with fake mech play? Gtfooh

[Gamma Emerald]

How many votes is NDMath at
I think that’s the “safest” vote but idr how many people are there rn

What does safest mean in this context?

anyone else that is close to lim is unclaimed, and your claim is kinda meh and Vivax also soft-counterclaimed (this conflicts w my read on him but I’ll unpack that later)

Vivax is a scumfuck 100%
Of all the attack vector to try against legends, you’re going with fake mech play? Gtfooh

I'm poking and acting
That's how I play mafia
You don't want to see what Legends has to say?

I have an issue with the acting portion though. Your play feels like the sort of method acting I would get up to as scum last year or so. Like, the whole bit about cursed knowledge feels way too extra so I think you’re scum trying much too hard to implant a narrative seed. I’ve had urges to play into a narrative as both alignments but it’s more fluid as scum because you’re already pretending by playing the alignment!

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: beeboy E-4
Whatever, let’s just pick something cuz I got 10 posts left after this

[Gamma Emerald]

Not it for the no deaths

Gamma I'll gift you the honors of deciding, do we wagon toog or dunn

Or vivax

I'm inclined to go with this
that doublevoter activation was scummy as fuck

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Vivax

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Vivax

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Vote wasn't accompanied by a 2 million characters post

For reference, I'm an expert on Gamma meta from playing a few games of mafia and this is what town Gamma should look like

Spoiler:

problem being, the first vote phase, again, did not go anywhere near how I think it would have if 3 scum were in the group

wdym by that?

I'll break down the action on my side now

I open by j'accusing Fidget because I felt like her comment about doing blackjack and hookers with penguin felt a bit too sure the other side had scum, Fidget immediately posts like 7 times in a row in response to me. CSF enters kinda limply and votes Aisa. Loki posts stuff declaring Toog scum based on how they acted regarding the team selection. NAHA immediately goes for my throat calling my Fidget push "outing", Aisa comes in asking NAHA about their thoughts on Loki and Aisa's TRs on me and also addresses CSF's vote on her.
Aisa then brings up she wanted to find evidence NAHA was scum but just ended up with a TR there. To add some director's commentary, this feels like a weird stance to go with as scum since a) if you want to find reasons to SR a scumbuddy it'll usually be easier and b) if the goal was to just voice a TR Aisa could have just done that and tried to convince others rather than taking the position of the one to be convinced that NAHA is scum. I agree with Aisa's NAHA TR, she then asks me to explain it which puzzles me a little since it seemed like she was more interested in hearing logic the other way.
Fidget starts like, actually tryharding, which I did not see as towny in the moment. Loki says I've slipped in his reads for not having a narrow PoE which wasn't exactly true since I still TRed 3/5 of the other players in that thread att, but apparently no one bothers to track legacy reads when keeping tabs on what people's reads are at a certain moment. I bring up that my reads have stayed their course and Loki asks why they are what they are. I clarify my reads a bit and also ask Loki what happened to the meta TR on me. Aisa votes me right after as an attempt to sort me, also explains that the NAHA re-read ws motivated by NAHA being the only null on team 2 Aisa had with the others being townleans.
Loki clarifies which game his meta read on me was from and then starts drilling me on my reads. Loki also says my preference for team 2 didn't make sense (when I was highly confident Andante was scum but my Fidget suspicion felt more circumstantial), then attempts to say I should be SRing NAHA if I thought thinking both teams would fail was scum indicative (which was an absolute garbage-bin interpretation of my argument!)

I took some offense to the clarified meta because in essence it was saying in order to be townread I had to be a non-entity for the first part of the game, which is sucky. I also start shutting out Loki because I wasn't in the mood to argue with someone who very clearly had blinders on to actual sound logic and rational explanation. I also slam Loki for assuming my read on Andante changed because I was SRing Fidget after he did the same thing when NAHA hurt tagged penguin. Also I was getting tilted that Loki was acting like I wasn't doing anything to explain my Fidget SR when I was, it was just that because my reads are esoteric and can be formed on a whim based off something seemingly innocuous, it probably came off as nonsense. But I also think Loki had played with me more than enough to understand that was how I formed reads sometimes and the lack of comprehension of that pinged me. He also tried to construe me as TRing NAHA for expecting both teams to succeed which is NOWHERE NEAR ANYTHING I HAD SAID. I vote Loki in small part because the bad faith arguments were making me distrust him greatly but for the most part because I could tell he was emotionally charged so I knew a vote would likely result in a lightning-fast OMGUS, after which I attempted to hammer myself (NAHA and Aisa had voted before Loki). It's actually comical that the bait worked because right before I voted myself Loki said he was immune to my emotional manipulation when he feel into a different manipulation entirely to what he thought I was doing.
Fidget actually start breaking down my thought process for Loki a bit after my self-vote (tbf if Fidget hadn't gotten killed that would have made my read on her go very south upon seeing that again, it felt like it was deliberately held until after I had attempted to lock in votes). I start lolcatting a bit but then get serious and say to never eliminate Aisa because I was a bit worried I wouldn't get to read the thread after I had gotten voted out. Following that, CSF breaks the illusion and points out that no hammer occurred because the deadline was hard-set and asked why I self-voted, to which I explained that it felt like NAHA and Loki were pre-sorting me scum in bad faith so I wanted to try to lock them into misyeeting me as a sort of lesson.
Cat Scratch then dives into coalition theory claiming scum would want to send a coalition with 1 scum to reduce the pool (obviously untrue given she flipped scum and I believe was backing her own team) and suggests Andante is suspicious for voting team 2 while SRing 3 people there. She then proceeds to try to play good-cop to NAHA's bad-cop by trying to act in defense of me. It was a good plan foiled by necessity. I also ask NAHA why they TR Loki since, after the meta read Loki had on me turned out to be bunk, my opinion on him slingshotted in part due to me hard-defending Loki to ejji, which resulted in my outlook on Loki being in the negative since I was like "maybe ejji was right all along!". CSF asks me to clarify my position on how Fidget and NAHA's beliefs that both teams would fail differed, which actually made a dent in me because a) it wasn't Loki who I was pretty much not engaging on principle att and b) it actually was asked in a way that felt salient. I pull out the ThorHead card (using meta that's seemingly fair except for a key perversion of it that makes it way less trustworthy) on Loki and spell out for CSF my logic for what exactly pinged me from Fidget (for the first of many times).

I then exit tilt-mode and put my vote on Loki with actual meaning behind it. Loki starts trying to take a moral high-ground by claiming his questions are perfectly logical to which I retort they feel shallow and like I have to explain my reads in baby-steps in order for Loki to comprehend them (this gets called out later). I also note I answered similar questions from others because of the lack of a belief that the answers would take more effort than I thought it was worth. I also call out Loki for what I see as shitty gotcha logic because he said he hadn't seen Fidget's scumgame (despite allegedly knowing her main?) but still tried to claim Fidget's posting pattern wasn't AI, in a way that misconstrued me again (claiming I was reading Fidget on post length when it came down to more of a timing and structure issue).
Loki then starts to change tune a little bit, but not much, asking why I had been dodging his questions (which should have been apparent but w/e), complaining that I was answering the questions he was asking when others did it (see reasoning for why I wasn't answering Loki, btw this bit carried on for a while and got rather grating), added more clarification to the meta read (this was actually rather okay compared to the rest of what I was dealing with) by saying I was trying to force a certain leader in the other game (true, but in that case why the drop of the meta read when the TRs I had that Loki listed as reason to drop it, FB and Enchant, I was nowhere close to pushing to be leader here?), and addresses my Fidget read full explanation ( by getting pissed I didn't explain it to him directly). One problem with A LOT of what Loki brought up was it was couched in a lot of complaining; rather than be glad I was making strides to actual answer questions he was asking, he got offended I wasn't responding to him! That's kinda ego-driven and I don't recall too well if he was pushing me as scum for that but if he was that was not very sensible, he literally let his offense of me answering to others before him cloud his judgment (this is starting to feel a bit overly critical and brutal so I'll mention that most if not all of this stuff I'm writing is probably the work of 2 of the bluntest of my 8 facets. I don't normally broach this subject in mafia games but I think it's mandatory to establish I don't feel entirely right being this way about Loki but it's the best way to convey what went down after the fact, I feel like). My other issue was he posted stuff without really thought-matching the other stuff that was going on.
After the brief period of what felt like good-faith posting Loki goes off by doubling down on his "truthfulness", refusal to actually absorb the logic behind my Fidget and NAHA reads diverging, tries to act like me reversing course on Fidget is unreasonable after the astronomical effort Fidget put in to sort when it absolutely wasnt. Fidget then comes in with the mother of all good posts, which included actual effort to bridge to gap between me and Loki, bringing up a good point that Loki continued engaging me well after coming to scumread me. Like, Fidget's posting was phenomenal atp.

Following Fidget's big-damn-hero moment, Loki starts to process "wait, scum!Gamma basically NEVER tries to go against me like this, what gives?" and backs off for a bit. Fidget does start to post arguments for me being scum in response to Loki TRing me, which in honest retrospect feels kinda shitty, Fidget tried to bridge the gap between me and Loki and then goes into providing reason I could be scum? Anyway, I re-enter thread for the first time after the seeming tune-change, and start just tearing into Loki, including constantly railing on about him missing the one post I explained the distinction between my Fidget and NAHA reads in. This was a bit of a dick move alongside the baby-steps explanation thing because it kinda slipped my mind Loki has dyslexia so he called me out on it and I reeled back in response because I could tell I was millimeters from crossing the same moral event horizon I had in Slaughter Hour (...I don't rlly wannna talk about ti). Besides that though I expressed a lot of those parantheticals I put in this post in my breakdown of Loki's posting. Me and Loki go on fighting for a while, until I hit full-on explosion territory which is where the call-out happens. After which, Loki starts seriously thinking I could be town and I decide to stop posting and take a full on thread break for a couple hours because I needed to clear my head and determine whether I felt like my ability to distinguish game elements from personal conflicts was compromised.
I return a few hours later and post a few things in response to posts that occurred since I left. Loki then snaps back into pushing me because "there's no way I should be scumreading him" because I mindlessly left my vote on him, SOMETHING I AM VEERRRRYYY ESTABLISHED TO DO AS TOWN!!!! I retort by saying in order for me to unvote I would need to not feel like I was backing down from the push just to let myself die! I also took offense to Loki pulling the "I'm disappointed if you're town" card which I previously experienceds similar from a very slimy and manipulative player, that Loki should not be emulating.
Fidget flips back into defending me which, again, very concerning that Fidget was basically playing devil's-advocate to whatever happened to be Loki's stance on me at the time, @scum you fucked up by killing her off! Loki then brings out the actual point of me haaving left my vote on him, whihc like, by not actually trying to approach me with any sort of civility and instead hopping to "Gammsa!scum because he parked his vote on me and he know I don't playe like this" made it REALLY hard for me to want to remove my vote. I also bring up that I've never seen Loki play the sort of bad-faith game I'd seen from her this game so I had zero clue whether she would do it as scum, and told her to stop harping on a bout telling the truh because it was starting to appear self-conscious. Loki says she never re-assesses as scum like she did with me because there's no reason to, whihc prompts me to pull a turnabout card on her by saying that just as her townflip would look bad on me, my townflip would look bad on her. I do mention her play is illogical as scum on the base logic I was employing, but her too-quick jump to accusing me again felt like there had to be SOME scum motive to it, whcih I ascribed as being paranoid letting the wagon on me die would result in her becoming the boot in the end. This results in a sort of impasse, where I can't really talk any more sense in Loki because he's stuck on "I can't let go of pushig you if your vote is gonna stay on me" and I'm kinda in a similar position. AAt that point, I decided "fuck it, I can't get any MORE in the hole, let's provide an ultimatum I have no business proposing!" and try to strike the following deal: me and Loki both avoid voting each other for the rest of the first voting stage. I decided on such an ultimatum because it felt like strongarming Loki was the only way to prevent him from continuing to burrow into the same tunnel he'd beeen stuck on for the majority of the phase and hopefully redirect his effort to finding ACTUAL SCUM!

Loki takes a second and then decided to actuallt take me up on my offer. We start actually having civil conversation where he questions why I reassessed and I explain it was because I couldn't quite grok the scum agenda for reconsidering I put out because his play felt absolutely bass-ackwards to what I described. Loki says he has no clue who would be the infiltrator in the group, to which I looked over the activity overview and proposed it could be NAHA or Aisa based on the fact me+Loki had been squaring off for so long with what felt like NOTHING from either of them! CSF also was on the lower end of activity but because of the smattering of good-cop posting he did I ended up discarding the thought she could be scum. I specifically called out that NAHA's group activity was WILDLY lower than their main thread activity, which felt like trying to let Loki drive the MY on me. Loki suggests Aisa and Toog might be scum, which puzzles me a little because I had no inkling of a connection between them, so I asked about it.
Loki then starts questioning why NAHA had volunterred themself as the second vote-out if I flipped scum, which was kinda not the most airtight line of questioning but I think still rustled NAHA's feathers in the right way to get them to start properly alignment telling. NAHA says they wouldn't let themselves be miselimmed if there was still confscum to yeet which prompted Loki to ask who ws confscum from my townflip, which was honestly a completely fair question as while it was obvious to me NAHA meant there was confscum in the group rather than one specific person, it put them on the spot a bit and probably frazzled them. Loki asseerts it's more logical for NAHA to volunteer to be limmed if they're wrong on the SR on me vs. being right, which I don't think is entirely true but I think either that or Loki saying he was going to start fully backing the idea of gamma!town spooked NAHA off of voting me.

At this point I end up with a kick of new energy because my enchant TR I had from very early on that NAHA tried to call TMI I was finally able to actually back because my completed game sample size was large enough I could point to more then just the normal game enchant replaced me in and mayyyybe chromavolan for enchant meta (I never used chromavalon except to page Loki to back my Enchant read at one point). Loki also provided some ISOs of Aisa, 1 town game and 1 scumgame, from which I conclude Aisa's play just from a low-effort meta basis leans town in this game. Aisa comes in and actually pushes Loki a little bit based on Loki being different in squid game (which I think was already rebutted when ejji brought it up?). She also backs a point Fidget made where my fire-and-brimstone read on Andante was not something they expected scum me to be doing. She ALSO also addresses my concern about her lack of presence.
After that and some engagement between Loki and Fidget, as well as me later down the line, Loki drops the first vote for NAHA This results in NAHA dropping a blatant OMGUS on Loki claiming Aisa made good points. Loki and I both basically see right through it though. Fidget also is rightfully skeptical. CSF's posts at this time are basically throwing the softest pitch to explain reads NAHA's way. She also tried to put some extra pressure on Loki.In response to 2 votes being on Loki, I did the same for NAHA. Aisa then removes her Loki vote, causing NAHA to try a last ditch bus on CSF. This does not work out and causes the rest of the people not voting NAHA to vote them. And that's the first vote phase basically summed up!

The second vote phase was way less active. Everyone was under the assumption everyone else was town so theories to who was scum on the other side were kicked around until around the last 48 hours where I decided to vote CSF believing myself the likely pick if scum were to have the control over the vote from no one voting at all. Fidget and Aisa followed and CSF went out with basically no ceremony whatsoever.
I'll be upfront though, I could actually see Aisa maybe being scum. Still feel like it's highly unlikely given how things went down though. Suggesting I could be scum is fucking preposterous though because I feel like my involvement was rather key to getting both the scum yeeted. I will not abide a repeat of Gensokyo where because of people being absolute boneheads and thinking I led votes against scumbuddies twice in a row for minimal gain the trail of the last scum ended up getting completely lost!

You’re not an expert at shit
That post was actually way beyond what I normally post in any game as either alignment
Nice job outing yourself with your thorHead tactics, scumbutt

[Gamma Emerald]

who is Agatha

Survey time:

[ ]

The other imaginary friend besides Lou who makes me type weird stuff lately

[ ] The crime novel author (Christie)
[ ] The neighbours yorkshire terrier

Spoiler:

It was Agatha all along!

[Gamma Emerald]

Read list

Solidly town :
Yume
Titus

Decently town :
MeekMeerkat
SirCakez
Malakittens
Nomsy

Kinda town :
Frogsterking
Enchant
Dunnstral
NDMath

Blegh :
beeboy

kinda sus :
Fredrick A Campbell
Toogeloo
tictac

Very sus :
Vivax
Sara

Anyone Blegh or below in this post I would call a scumread here

[Gamma Emerald]

I think NDMath is town.

@Gamma, @Legends, what do you think of Dunnstral pushing NDMath and defending beeboy EOD1? I think it looks especially scummy considering beeboy was about to get a replacement, which often saves a slot by resetting it, so delaying beeboy's death even one game day could have really helped scum.

you make a decent point but I don't feel horrible about Dunn rn

[Gamma Emerald]

One you don’t know if you were the night 1 target.

Secondly, you legit just hindered my role for the sake of downgrading your own play.
Normally I’d be like whatever, but I legit claimed I needed the hammer in my first post. First.post.

Please tell me how or why town would even do that. It feels like a scum tactic because you legit blocked town from getting something that helps in the future.

If you’re in fact town then you’re just anti town as shit.

If you are scum then bravo you made yourself obv bleeding scum and deserve death.

Being antitown on regular intervals is my meta. I can‘t look like I‘m doing favours to specific players, cause that‘s the opposite of a favour to other players.

I had to bust a bunch of players out of the mindset that we were teaming outside of being a town bloc in several games
Which then gets seen as if I‘m personally attacking them, which I detest because personal wellbeing of others in a game is not a burden I want to carry

In other words, an excessively good person can cause bad if they never revert to less palatable plays

how about you just...change your meta?

[Gamma Emerald]

well, maybe not mala

bruh

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma.... : (

[Gamma Emerald]

HEAL: think fast
Going with what’s popular as mage crest isn’t on the table this time

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay and? Why should I be

[Gamma Emerald]

HEAL: cybernetic shell
Okay that’s WAY better

[Gamma Emerald]

My gut was that Think Fast shortens the day length, and maybe night length.

Cursed Crown sounded like a kingmaker ability like what Gamma had back in SLaughter Hour.

Cybernetic Shell 3 sounded like a big or something.

I'll specify this now, there are definitely items in the game as I got one yesterday, so that's probably what cyber shell has to do with, and I think it's good to buff those

[Gamma Emerald]

HEAL: Think fast

Sheeping Legends today. Seems like a good plan. The merging mechanic just sends my mind to funny places with what's possible.

VOTE: Fred

Anyway, I can advise looking at my wagon knowing there's one town leading it. I'd be in hammer range for scum and they'd have a free launch if it was all town on it, if I'm not mistaken.

[4]

Fredrick A Campbell

: Nomsy, Sara, Legends[2]
[4]

Vivax

: Malakittens, Gamma Emerald, MeekMeerkat, Yume
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: Vivax
[1]

Sara

: Fredrick A Campbell
[1]

Dunnstral

: marcistar

[4]

Not voting

: tictac, Dunnstral, Enchant, Toogeloo

why do you think scum woulg qh you?

[Gamma Emerald]

But at least tictac unearthed the nomsy mistery
Looking at the damage and who's been profiting off it, the question is if a reboot is deserved

Wdym he unearthed it?

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a response to Vivax's mechanical bullshit but I want to see if mala doubles down on being shot or bulletproof.

This might be a two scum caught.

Vivax voting with the wagon we started "because he's curious about Toog's claim" and with his supposeded scumread isn't about curiousity. It's survival.

Going to confer with my other heads but Vivax can die now.

~Titus

Vivax can be scum but I don’t think Mala is for this

[Gamma Emerald]

[DATA EXPUNGED]
There’s more to this than you’d think

[Gamma Emerald]

If you‘re on me and don‘t locktown her during this day, you slipped your alignment

If you flip scum I’ll locktown Mala
otherwise, she could be scum with genuine outrage, though for now I feel like she’s town

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
That’s the first thing you’ve posted that’s felt earnest.

[Gamma Emerald]

Toogeloo and tictac are still townreads.

to clarify what I mean by townread. townread - player who is more likely than "random" to be town in my estimate.
Disclaimer: I am aware this definition is not rigorous as "random" in a situation where you don't know what is the probability for a random situation makes it such that the comparison is not concrete. I don't see the point in coming up with a rigorous definition as this standard of mine has served me well in many games, although I don't recall that I have been calling it a townread before this.

This is going way over my head

[Gamma Emerald]

To those who are not voting Vivax or myself,

I implore you to state whether or not you would be voting for either of us if we didn't have this many votes on us. If your vote wouldn't be on us either way, who would you like to vote (if you aren't voting anyone already)

idg why you’re being wagoned and I need to parse Vivax’s posting again
So the number of voters isn’t why I’m not voting

[Gamma Emerald]

Vivax there's a reason your posts are inscrutable, yes? Can I know the reason?

Overbordering fantasy, compulsive writing, excessive questioning of people's motivations?
Recent reading into philosophy and theological history?

Is that a satisfying self-analysis?

Okay yeah I don’t care to vote out Vivax today
VOTE: Marci
This I at least see and can kinda support
I do still kinda wanna stick with the Cakez TR but atp it’s just a note for the records of “if Marci flips town, this was an accurate mark of Cakez’ alignment”

[Gamma Emerald]

ok eod update done.
nomsy actually pushed beeboy wagon pretty hard, and not like the main gets any cred from it.
gamma looking for alt-yeets, and jumps on last minute.
marci avoiding it, but already admitted to doing so.
think i was right day 1.
VOTE: gamma

current affairs:
set of all possible personage, excluding those not playing this game and also excluding those not using the apallation "fred" using an encoding of their thought-patters, that is perhaps overtly baroque for the concepts expressed therein, yet i get the feeling it's done for jocular aims rather than as camouflage, and sure he get's his degrees of proof mixed using a reasonable doubt stardard to counter a preponderance of evidence argument, but such confusions are not altogether uncommon among mafiasum membership.
in short, i don't have a read there, but i do think he is funny.

meanwhile vivax is on figurative shrooms, and pooping green balls of tinfoil
townread.
(time slowing down is the same thing as space expanding. that was einsteins whole deal.)

as to meek-read, i feel there is a going with the flow quality to his reads, remains a scumlean.

If you’re saying I was looking for alternates to beeboy, you’re dead wrong.

[Gamma Emerald]

How many votes is NDMath at
I think that’s the “safest” vote but idr how many people are there rn

VOTE: NDMath

Vivax is a scumfuck 100%
Of all the attack vector to try against legends, you’re going with fake mech play? Gtfooh

I have an issue with the acting portion though. Your play feels like the sort of method acting I would get up to as scum last year or so. Like, the whole bit about cursed knowledge feels way too extra so I think you’re scum trying much too hard to implant a narrative seed.

The thing is I was scumreading beeboy for a while and the NDMath thing was just because there didn’t seem to be enough traction on beeboy and deadline was creeping up. Once there actually was noticeable interest in yeeting beeboy I went back there. The Vivax SR was never meant to be pushed to elim D1, I just wanted to put my thoughts out there.

[Gamma Emerald]

This is a fever dream to read but I get a sense actual solving lies beneath the surface

[Gamma Emerald]

I noticed Marci wasn’t on Vivax but didn’t realize it also cut the other way

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: vivax
Not fully confident this flips scum but the lack of crossvote does hold weight

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
You should probably unvote actually and wait for hammer?

[Gamma Emerald]

Could you post a full readlist with reasons attached, Fred?

[Gamma Emerald]

Could you post a full readlist with reasons attached, Fred?

I've currently done 3 players in the requested post and saved it as a draft. I'll continue adding the rest of the reads, but I'll publish the incomplete readlist if it is requested by anyone.

once it's complete pls post it

[Gamma Emerald]

:/
Do you frequently get accused of hedging?

[Gamma Emerald]

That was @ Fred

[Gamma Emerald]

I think my first choice of vote might be fred, followed by marci
still not exactly feeling vivax!scum rn, tho take my opinion there w a grain of salt as he's fooled me before

[Gamma Emerald]

wut

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: marcistar

I'm fine with executing marcistar as well.

bet I will
VOTE: marcistar

Mafia outing themselves?
If so, it was a successful day regardless of the outcome
If not, it's going to be a tough game

@gamma, @enchant, @marci, @mala, Vivax saw a counterwagon forming against the wagon on him, and said the people voting that counterwagon were scum. Wouldn’t town!Vivax think scum was already voting him?

I think it’s within bounds for him to think he was getting wagoned by town? Like, his posting has conveyed that he understands being pushed like he has been.

[Gamma Emerald]

Would be kinda ironic if mala was mafia and I got launched for taking that hammer

Gonna say you might be onto something
Our thread has been basically dead for a little bit
This time I’m gonna beat the curve and call it out explicitly before I get merc’d

[Gamma Emerald]

wut
ftr merc’d is shorthand for getting killed

[Gamma Emerald]

Typically hopping out of scum’s pocket is a fast-track to getting murdered in your sleep.

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus' explanation of Best Friends made me rethink the benefits.

What’s the relevance of this post? You keep saying 444

[Gamma Emerald]

I get that
But why make a big deal of it here
You sound like a conspiracy theorist

[Gamma Emerald]

ngl I might just vote out Vivax so I don't have to deal with someone speaking in tongues for the rest of the game

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm gonna vote again once Mala pops back in

[Gamma Emerald]

oh
that's called CPR Doctor generally

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean that's what your role is called

[Gamma Emerald]

>:/

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: marcistar

This is better than wifom, and if it is true, Marci would probably kill someone anyways.

[Gamma Emerald]

Upon reading the posts asking for 伊的

Spoiler:

(third person singular possessive pronoun(Chinese languages/dialects don't care about gender in their pronouns))

reads, marcistar decided to give one for the next few 24-hour days. At the last 24 hours of the day phase, marcistar decides to add to 伊的 janitor claim that whoever 伊

Spoiler:

(third person singular pronoun(this Chinese language doesn't ahbe different caees for subject and object. No Chibese language I know does))

targets who is not at full health is healed and whoever is at full health gets flipped like a janitor, expecting everyone voting 伊 to stop voting 伊.

English pleas

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: MeekMeerkat in the meantime because it is now my strongest scumread. Will switch back to marcistar if not enough players switch over.

I'm limiting myself to be online for only around 6 minutes, so I'll continue my argument in the next post and post wherever I stop and add ellipses (...) to the back of whereever I stop.

This whole charade from Fred does not feel like a town behavior

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: frederick

marcistar, I am more confident MeekMeerkat is mafia. Is it in your alignment's interest to join me?

This is not town.

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I didn't know that

Pretty sure that info was in the queue thread
Either you’re lying or didn’t bother to look

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hrm

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Neutron stars switching polarities into orders of magnitude unimaginable
Feels like grey matter trying to escape through my nose and ears like when they embalmed mummies in Egypt

r u a Doctor Who fan?

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VOTE: marcistar
Yeah no.

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There’s no scum kill tho
I’m stopping you right here rather than letting you keep sliding past your expiration date

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If you’re a doc then you are guilty of malpractice, sorry

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Honestly while I would rather live me dying is still kinda fine
But ftr kill tictac first chance y’all get

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Titus, Mala, WE’RE VOTING OUT MARCI TODAY. Y’all should know why I’m heated up on this but there’s someone else I wanna see react first before I drop the full deets.

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i think ur being obv abt what ur saying but u shouldve been more obv last phase as well then

Oh no no, you have no knowledge of what I’m about to spring on your ass unless there’s a snake in the grass

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My thing has very little to do with Toog
He might be an auxiliary witness were he still alive but he’s definitely not directly involved