LOST: Dead Thread

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Huh.

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I felt bad watching the furtive lim.

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It didn’t make sense to me.

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No idea if correct but been pretty convinced c&g were some variety of scum since RH never broke out of his shell.

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Who do you all think my remaining buddies are?

C&g, dunno who else haven’t been keeping up.

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I won't be unhappy if I'm wrong about CG, surprised, but not unhappy

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It's a cliff hanger. I see how it is.

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I mean, based on the vague wording I'm going to guess there's going to be some sort of weird set up reltaed confusion which is going to send town into the wilderness where they will all die lost and alone.

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Wait, that didn't link right, but still, I think it'll be an interesting finish now. I'd have it at 60/40 for town maybe.

Ew, that's not a number you'd put out if C&G were scum.
That's weird.

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*hangs by 2 fingers for 2 days* I could do this for days.

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So it's literally just Drapion and someone else then?

I wouldn't be confident with a drapion scum claim there. They didn't need to claim a guilty.

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Q. RH9 what was the goal with your play this game? I was under the impression you were more vocal and engaged as town.
What changed? Ah, looks like you went on hiatus.

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Saw that coming.

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Oh, you lied about your results and being a tracker?

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Oh, you incorrigible reprobate you.

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If you could be so kind, could you please refrain from doing this type of gambit again ProfessorDrapion?
The reason I ask is because it's hard to win games when the facts aren't the facts. I think I lost 2 of my last 3 games largely because of these types of plays.
While having a town member in control of eliminations is sometimes a good thing. Odds are with a gambit like this you will miss and then you will be miseliminated.


Pedit: Oh so you were a tracker that lied about their results? Who did you check? what were the results?

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I can't find it, either in game or in the dead thread. My reading comprehension sucks.

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It's 14530. Thanks.

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Only mistake I made this game was saving the Taly wagon.

No. This was not your only mistake.

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Fair enough. I'm not the arbiter of your reality. All I can do is point at my request again and ask you to think about it.

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The goal of mafia is as town aligned is to eliminate all wolves from the game.
It doesn’t matter how you go about it.

It does matter how you go about it. For example you can't threaten someone with physical harm to gain an in game advantage.

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I strictly follow my win condition.

I'm kind of stuck on this one.
I'm basically asking you not to pull this type of gambit because the mathematics don't work out in town's favor.
let's eliminate the probable mason pair.
2/7 *100 = 28.57%
There's the hard math. You had a 71.43% chance of being wrong.

The rest is fuzzy variables.
But other things you might weigh and play with.
1. What is the percentage chance you will be miseliminated if you're wrong with this fake claim?
2. What was the percentage chance you would have been miseliminated if you didn't make the gambit?
3. What was the percentage chance that without your fake claim scum would have been eliminated?

I think if you weigh this honestly you'll see that it was pretty much a risk that was unnecessary and weighed against you.
It was an unforced error and while you're arguing that your gambit revealed the remaining scum. Objectively it didn't, it's a fuzzy variable.

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I think the following outcomes would have been better for town.

1. You did gambit and hit scum then were night killed.
2. You did not gambit. 28.57% chance of hitting scum.
3. You did gambit miseliminated and were night killed.
4. You did gambit, miseliminated and avoided your own miselimination.

I think all of these outcomes were objectively better.

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I don’t regret what I did.

That's fine. I just disagree and my request stands.

1a* you did gambit, hit scum and then survived the night.

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Still not feelin’ Buterfly scum. For posterity.

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Lol

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Just ask the mod directly if you wanna know.

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Lol

I guess that we should've all sheeped you.

Nah, but it is funny.
I’ve been there, I’ve hard defended scum before.
At least this one died eventually.

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Noraa's kinda squishy.

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No I mean she's not especially resistant to being eliminated as either alignment.

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I’m not super sure who the last scum is.

But they have space to mess up once.

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I think it’s OTH.
But not super sure.

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…their case works for oth and Johnny both. I dunno why they’re going strictly after Johnny.

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The reason I think it’s OTH is because of you look at a graph of game interest you’ll note that everyone else’s has gone up or been steady while theirs went down.

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You could argue it’s rl stuff, but they’re a hydra.

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I mean, I'm simply pointing out that "morale" is a possible explanation for the activity of each player. I don't use mono-tools or evaluate people on a single variable, but this one feels okay to me. Or at least in a world where I have 2 lims to go I'm comfy going with that.
And yes, Gamma has been pretty reactive.

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Oh, I misinterpreted your post.
Yeah.
No, just a general observation.

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I could go for a hamburger.

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Ngl, even though I didn’t think it was him, I’m still shocked it wasn’t him.

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This doesn’t feel like a very spicy Elo.

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Is Nancy reading OTH as scum?

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Ah, miselimbait think’s it’s oth, the rest didn’t really commit at anything beyond Johnny.

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The only reason I was miselimmed is we thought Titus was our traitor with how bad our reads were.

It almost became a dead sweep.

I am very good at scum because it requires actively listening and then giving people what they want.

But if you’re in a bad spot you manipulate the gamestate and people’s minds.

As outed scum this game left me continue to plan and speak and move chess pieces on the board.

Some assumptions people made are accurate and some I have poisoned the well.

When you see the mafia PT post game there is a key assumption (I won’t say what) that I am not correcting.

Wow, seriously? Why would you even think you had a traitor in this game?

I can’t answer that without spoiling some things sorry.

Mathblade has thought there was a traitor in half or more of the games I’ve been in him with.
Though, I think it makes thematic sense here. Albeit I don’t think that is happening in this game.

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Lots of people have thought that about gamma scum. Re: “he wouldn’t do this/say that if he were scum it’s too charged”

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tho, Nancy kill bad kill. If oth scum. Agree.

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*stares at Marci’s effort post*

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*sniffs*

It doesn’t pass the smell test.
I say before being wrong.

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In general Nancy, I think if there’s a pattern of a player getting under a player’s skin by escalating/saying stuff that they “would never say as scum” before turning out to be scum. Because it might jeopardize their oog relationships.

You have to ask yourself if you’re an exception to that pattern.
Most people don’t deviate from their patterns unless there’s a good reason.

I’m still not sure if you’re wrong.
I also think that we really shouldn’t lose sight of being in a game of mafia when having these interactions.
I don’t think it’s a good idea to think of oog consequences to in game actions or vice versa.

I’m trying to say an opinion, but I don’t think I’m doing a good job communicating it.

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I don't feel guilt about pocketing people because I am a sociopath

Dead eyed bear stare.

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Uh oh.

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I can definitely be wrong. I usually am.
I have no control of the outcome, I’m just giving my best guess after half-assedly following the game.
*points to C&G exhibit A*

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It just occurred to me that I dunno who shot frogster.

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Lol.
Well, that’s not the end of the world.

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Whelp, any hesitation I had was swept away with that unvote lol.

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Yes and then OTH was like, “nah it’s not BB unvote” 3 years after they cross voted.

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TBH I feel bad for Mislim.

I don’t, this would be a pretty chill Elo for me, maybe not before this point. But that unvote is a behavior that town just doesn’t do that way. In b4 I’m wrong.

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*sweats*

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*sweats*

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I think so.

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If it’s BestBird

I am going to policy execute him the entire time I play with him

cause he had disgusting town play of me calling out him being aligned with his wolf buddy Malcolm and that BB isn’t telling all info about Malcolm from Luke and the dude tells me to fuck off?

Just no man, that was ducking uncalled for as a wolf.

No.