hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

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First

VOTE: marcistar

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I am making Pooky a Double Voter today. Wherever Pooky Votes, my vote follows. No questions asked.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Greeting

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Crescent

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Why would you vote for someone you think is scum over someone who isn't trying very hard?

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Toogeloo can get votes too.

Of course I can. Anyone can! That's the fun of Mafia!

That being said, I'm pretty sure you read my extremely sarcastic and not a sincere post out of context.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maria

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Feeling comfortable with my vote and won't move until Toogeloo provides a single read or the deadline is coming up.

I recommend anything by Rick Riordan.

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alright gimmie a second

The site nuking itself seems to be an annual occurrence.

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Another person who did not read the post above it and therefore lost the sarcasm.

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@toog do you have any confident reads atm either way?
Do you think your wagon is pure, if not, whos scum on it in your view?

Not really.
Maybe; maybe not.
I dunno.

If I'm elimmed though, I'd like the honor of at least picking my hammer.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: MalcolmTucker

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It literally says in the setup the split.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Big Chunga

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I actually like this vote from Pooky, tbqh.

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Vibez

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Pooky and I setting up the tactical nuke. Hold on to your butts.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Greeting

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Can't be koba. BCG's sentences have capitalization and punctuation.

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Maybe we can get everyone in the game to vote Ali before mod gets here.

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MalcolmTucker is town.

I am giving them my vote the rest of the day, no questions asked.

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I feel like I kind of hamstrung myself earlier. How do we feel about U-turns on reads?

I think Pooky might be scum. How's that for a U-Turn?

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This is a game.

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Where's my boy, MalcomTucker?

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Hopefully not off a cliff.

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I'm about to rescind my offer of giving my vote to Malcom since they are being boring with it.

I actually don't have any problems with Frog's townbloc as of right now, however, I do disagree with some of the townbloc town reading Maria. I think Maria is scum. I think Pooky is scum.

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Does it look like it's going anywhere?

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Ok, Malcolm loses my vote. Worthless, not a single vote cast the entire day.

Frog, you get my vote until EoD.

VOTE: Pooky

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Pooky gambit. He hasn't proven anything. Fill in the blanks any way you want.

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I don't buy all these claims, because I also am an investigative.

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My investigative is bullshit detector, but I might be insane. Mod won't tell me.

Ain't I a saint for clearing this up ?

I like the prospect of eliminating BCG. Frog, can we do BCG?

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Math's plan is scummy.

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I'm good with that. I think MT is town from Day 1, but otherwise no complaints.

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Take it with a grain of salt. My first town read has a tendency to be scum though, XD.

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No.

We are not elimming any invest with a clear and obvious crumb

Are you going to stomp your feet and put your fingers in your ears? It's clear to me that you don't have the support to stop anything.

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Or Pooky is scum and we just sent a protective on them.

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Or Pooky is scum and we just sent a protective on them.

Makes D3 hella easy in that case because my voyeur will confirm if they died because shot or died because they visited Pooky

What if you get shot tonight and Pooky claims RB'd?

Honestly, you have no idea what scum have for PRs. Pooky's role as he's described it isn't even all that powerful. Maybe they just ignore him for now.

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And if you are scum, you can make up whatever the hell you want

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I don't think that was a crumb, but he is saying it was. He literally posted that gif because I voted within seconds of him voting while I was his double.

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I doubt he planned that crumb and is only saying it was a crumb because he was asked to come up with a crumb.

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And, I don't even get the crumb from BCG.

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Ok, wait, now I get it, lol. But, I'm not sure why a BG needs to crumb.

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You can Elim me before you Elim Frog. That's a hill I will die on.

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ITT: Super Serious Players Who Can't Tell They Are Being Fucked With.

I'm gonna go hang out with Enchant and Not Mafia. They know how to have a good time.

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Oh, but Math. They are claiming Invest. Shouldn't we keep them alive to test them?

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Did i miss anything?

My actual claim was "possibly insane bullshit detector."

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Like if there really is a vig Toogeloo should be the shot 9/10 times 44 posts of legit nothing. Like, if you're not gonna play the game just sub out and stop wasting time or get vig'd/exe'd for all I care.

What's your opinion of Not Mafia. I'm trying to sort that slot still.

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Holy crap. I'm not a real investigative. Just like Not Mafia is not a real Disloyal Vig. But you've made my day, you sweet, sweet child .

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furtiveglance (3): marcistar,

Frogsterking

, MathBlade

My liege.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: furtiveglance

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Can someone prod the mod?

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Oh captain, my captain. Frog hath perished.

I give my Not Mafia my vote today.

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You realize that would make me a triple voter right? You sure you wanna do that?

As long as you don't go mad with power, sure.

I think the following players are for sure town...
NM
MT
Cape

Mostly ok with the following players...
Math (with some reservation)*
Marci

I think anyone not listed is just fine for today. My personal opinion is that we pursue within MariaR, STD, and Enchant. I'm not too concerned about Titus or BCG at the moment. Slightly low hanging fruit, perhaps, but this is the best opportunity to take a look at these players more in depth.

*Obviously you have to admit, you made some "mistakes" yesterday in face of obvious scum Pooky. But you are forgiven if you make your triple vote work.

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lol at anyone who wants to push me as scum after day 2.

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Do you at least have a working PoE, Math?

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Let's start baby steps. Do you between 1-3 town reads?

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Well, I can assure you NM is NOT a serial killer. Setup clearly states the setup split.

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While not opposed to Titus, I do think spending some of the day with focus on Enchant, STD, or MariaR would be wise, even if we swap to Titus later. Of the three, I think I like STD the most as town, only because they did early town read me during Day 1 and Day 2 when I myself was intentionally portraying myself as LHF. Of the three, I like MariaR more for scum. I could see MariaR and Titus as a team even.

I've given my vote to NM though, so if he follows you onto Titus, I will as well.

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VOTE: Titus

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If any scum, toog.

I called Pooky scum before it was cool, and belittled Math's confidence in the Pooky wagon.

Try again.

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Is two town Rolecops something that would appear in a normal game? That's where you lose me.

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I have stated and believe that I am pretty much the cop in this game.

I think technically a disloyal Vig is a better cop, lol

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VOTE: Big Chungus Gaming

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If a loyal attempts to target another player of opposite alignment, they are considered role blocked (according to the wiki).

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Also, everyone is Pooky and let me know if their interactions with BCG seem aligned. I'm think I'm getting cold feet on this one.

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UNVOTE:

NM, let's look elsewhere.

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everyone is Pooky

ebeop: everyone "iso" Pooky.

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Did you iso Pooky? That exchange between BCG and Pooky doesn't really vibe with scum theater.

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VOTE: MariaR

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I don't think Chungus and Pooky's interactions feel like theater. Has anyone else iso'd Pooky and disagrees with that?

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VOTE: Lukewarm

I do not think MalcomTucker is scum.

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Lol, you couldn't sound more scummy with that if you had tried.

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I'm on the Luke/Johnny scum team train.

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My last pick would be Maria.

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I was setting up a Supersaint claim on Day 1 and Day 2, mostly to see how scum would react if I were ever to be pushed as a mis-elim, but I am a VT. I feel like I should be pretty town read at this point after Pooky's flip and my insistence on MT town since Day 1 and not faltering on either.

I'dlove to see the angles scum will take to try and mis-elim me at this point.

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I was actually trying to be scummy early in, but I suck at it, lol.

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Supersaint not normal.

I have no idea what qualifies as Normal and not normal. I don't play these quests that often.

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queues

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This was Frogsterking's last readwall before being shot. He was shot BEFORE not mafia or math who could in theory cause a clear chain giving us arguably an extra clear or scumfirm.

We know Furtiveglance was wrong.

If we do lim Johnny and it flips scum, I want Luke tomorrow. No questions asked.

Then we sort Math/Cape.

I'm in agreement, mostly. I still strongly suspect Maria, and feel they are being largely ignored and would include that in the sorting as well.

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I want to get this off my chest real quick.

Last minute Hero solve (don't take seriously, "yet"): Johnny, Maria, Titus.

Titus is my big paranoia read. Scum Rolecop is completely plausible.

Running theory is that Johnny is being cut loose by the scum team. Titus is lining up the eliminations afterwards to carry the scum to the end.

I'm not discounting the possibility that Luke might be aligned with Johnny, but something just seems fishy to me all of a sudden.

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Feels better.

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If you think I am scum after Pooky's flip, I'd love to hear why. Go back and read Day 2 and tell me that I push Pooky scum before it's popular after sheeping him all of day 1, and then vehemently fight Mathblade over it when Math didn't want to flip Pooky.

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Like to me, Titus not checking Johnny to me is a scum claim.

What's your opinion on my "Hero Solve?"

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VOTE: Johnny

I think I've said my peace for the day.

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Can we move on so I don't have to get prodded?

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I'm supporting MariaR elim.

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VOTE: MariaR

I'm dying in this hill.

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I looked at Maria's iso, too. The only push on Pooky was a naked vote and then later a fluff post about it.

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That seems incorrect. Maria and I had a big fight about Pooky scum.

Ironically we were both pushing scum correctly.

Yeah, I see it further down the iso, after you were pushing to spare Pooky. Prior to that, there wasn't any case building.

The issue I have is how little presence Maria has had, and they've attacked myself and every one of my town reads outside of Pooky, all of which have flipped town, all while maintaining a near invisible presence in the game.

It smells off.

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I just spent the better part of 30 minutes sifting through various isos, especially Big Chungus.

I think Big Chungus' iso spews Cape town. Cape was pushing BCG hard most of day 1 and BCG spent a good portion defending himself from Cape.

Sir Rhett was at the bottom of BCG's full player read list as, and I iso'd Sir Rhett and fond the slot to be a little scummy from the 4 posts there. Sir Rhett was replaced by Titus.

BCG makes constant assertions that Frog, Gamma, and Maria are scum. He starts off by stating one of

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Oops.. hit submit early, more to come.

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BCG pushes heavily that one of Frog, Gamma, or Maria is scum. He starts off with one of Frog or Maria, then adds Gamma down the line.

He eventually stops pushing Maria and says she might be town between Frog and her. His bottom 4 the becomes Frog, Cape, Malcolm, and Gamma, with Pooky fifth from bottom and Sir Rhett below them all, though not ranked.

Eventually he calls Cape town after Cape spends a lot of Day 1 pushing BCG.

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There are quite a bit of intentions to be cleaned from using BCG, and I think the most important is that Cape is absolutely town, and that there is a high likelihood of Titus (who replaced Sir Rhett) and/or Maria might be aligned.

He has a really high town read on STD, and mentions it in thread.

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He has one singular interaction with Nero (now Enchant).

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Enchant, what's your role again?

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I think I might be wrong on Maria. I am now leaning Titus + Enchant after BCG's iso followed by the events of Day 4.

UNVOTE:

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I might be wrong on Enchant also. I think Titus is the right choice today though.

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Cape is damn near locktown from my PoV. MalcolmTucker was too, and I hate that I didn't push against that harder. Cape isn't in my PoE, and the only way he gets Elimmed is if I get Night Killed.

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Enchant, what's your role again?

Night 3 Vouyer.

That is such a weirdly specific modification for an already weak as hell investigative role.

VOTE: Titus

Viva la centre-ville

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Frog had a lot of influence. They are killing Frog, not Rolecop, otherwise Titus would have been as just a scary threat.

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But you are pushing Cape, which has never been in Frog's PoE. Maria was though, StD was as well, and Frog had a ton of skepticism over Math trying to out PRs while resolving Pooky.

Pushing Cape is where you lost me yesterday. Cape is town.

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UNVOTE:

For now. No reason to keep you at -1. Kind of surprised at no Enchant hammer, tbqh, lol.

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Why would you hammer E-1?

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Lulz

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VOTE: Titus

Mackin' my bed and sleepin' in it.

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The existence of a "Mafia loyal bodyguard" is baffling. If BCG had protected Pooky, BCG would die, and everyone would know Pooky was scum regardless.

Scum don't have a roleblocker, or you are right, NM probably dies first. So the best they can do is cut Pooky loose. Kill the most vocal player on the town side, and hope that whomever NM shoots the next night isn't one of them when they kill him then.