hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

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Good morning! How are you, VOTE: Cape90?

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Why is

Cape90

being dodgy in your opinion,

Fennec

?

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To be fair, multiple people have said that about him. So the question is open to anyone who's scumreading

Cape90

.

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A flip out of Cape or Nero to me would give the most information at this current stage, In my opinion.

What information could a

Nero Cain

or

Cape90

flip could possibly give you at such an early stage of the game?

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Oh Greeting was asking me how I was and then I never answered.

I am fine :p

Glad to hear that! I like your new avi.

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Of course y’all are just going to assume that I was pocketing

Cape90

, I can’t just say I like his avi anymore.

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Why is

Cape90

being dodgy in your opinion,

Fennec

?

And everybody else who voiced concerns about this slot?

Because, like, I don't see anything out of the ordinary from

Cape90

.

UNVOTE: Cape90

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Fennec prob town though. Scum might try to avoid breaking site rules, yeah?

I don't think it's AI. He might have just not known about this. I've done this as a new player on this site too, and I would have done it regardless of my alignment.

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It's all good Fennec your reads make sense and it seems like you know how to play these games.

You really think so?

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Three of town!Greeting's contributions by this point in time from the game you modded:

I have three scum games on this site already (won two of them) and I am yet to see someone actually use my meta to make an accurate scumread of me and vote me out.

Do you think there could be other reasons for me not making these kind of long and elaborate posts at this phase of the game? Because if not, then you might not be as good at reading me as you claim.

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I'll agree the accusations were kinda shit, how you reacted to it is why I'm mainly suspicious of you. and testing out the waters which you were claimed to do, definitely seems like a possibility to me. An Answer could be why those actions where taken? and why were you so aggressive within the pages you were accused on? also can I also ask cape: Why did you mention nero swaying frog into voting ya? also maria was the one to start the nero vote so I'm also wondering what made ya do it maria? I'm reading back a bit, the original accusation and vote on nero was a bit out there, but your reaction to it is what really made me kinda doubting of you being town. Nero your a little bit less suspicious when reading back, so I'll cut ya the slack.

I’ll answer yours if you answer mine.

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I meant to quote 290 and not that. ^

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Can you elaborate on why Maria is scum? I don't super get Maria's take in 245 calling my posts not fuzzy so it's easy not to like it?

Would just like to point out that Fennec's posts have not been fluffy and yet literally everyone is calling Fennec towny. What's the difference Maria?

I have cut him some slack for being a newbie, but I don't think

Fennec

is sounding towny at all in this game. The recent annoyance is like, the most genuine-looking thing I've seen from this slot. Other than that it doesn't seem to me like he's reading the thread that much at all, and some of his stances actually don't make sense to me at all.

Alright Post 50 or so reads (Take all with a grain of salt by a massive quantity, its too early to get full reads)

Cape - Pulling a lot of reads out the backside. and scum do that a lot. also, its so early so I doubt you can get any "I'll Explain Later" Level reads. Generally can't tell between town/scum with this guy. its hard to read him.
Frog - He is actually asking some important questions, and his reads aren't out his backside too much. I'm Leaning to town with him.
Nero Cain - I can't accurately get a read off him, but he feels dodgy.
SirRhett - Starts off with a joke, just like in the newbie game he is in. although, that joke is a bit different. in the game he did that joke (It was basically joking around that he was scum because his predecessor was read as scum quite early on) and was a bit like a pair like in that game. this read relies on that game he is in to progress more foward though, but i do have a meta read that i can't say is town/scum at the same time, because that game isn't over yet. Although, this is a resource that I might use to read him, the game is like D1, so this is the one to take the most grains of salt (For now at least!)
Everyone else? Needs to post more, and I need to read a little more about them and their meta first.

So, I have double checked and by post 55,

Frogsterking

actually didn't ask a single question. Which is why I was really surprised when

Frogsterking

posted 62. Like?!?!

The read on (

Cape90

does look better as he had posted reads in the game before, and what he did could be objectively considered a lot at that stage of the game. I completely disagree with the claim that scum do that a lot though. But it's subjective and I can accept that.

Let's take post 72 for instance.

Yeah i went from Town-Leaning to Null to Scum-Leaning for cape within 30 posts. I was finding it kinda dodgy but could of been town, but now I'm thinking it is plain dodgy. none of them made sense and were literally 20-30 posts in. and yes Early/Late blah blah can be true mattering on the player no surprise there. And also, Frog seems Town-Leaning to me, and I fully agree with him. also, the Post 69 is Dodgy as all hell.

VOTE: Cape

Here is post 69:

You are being swayed by Nero of all people?

Which is

Cape90

blatantly poking fun at

Nero

. How is it "dodgy"?

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I have cut him some slack for being a newbie, but I don't think Fennec is sounding towny at all in this game. The recent annoyance is like, the most genuine-looking thing I've seen from this slot. Other than that it doesn't seem to me like he's reading the thread that much at all, and some of his stances actually don't make sense to me at all.

How do you even get that impression from the Fennec slot, I think Fennec is very clearly reading the room

Maybe if you read the whole post and not just the beginning you'd know how I got that impression!

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I think that if

Fennec

is scum, there's a higher chance of

Toogeloo

being scum too.

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Anyway, let's find out.

VOTE: Fennec

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I have a soft townlean on

Gamma Emerald

. Her tone sounds like she's actually solving and sorting.

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Frogsterking

does not get a townread for me in this game. Normally when he's town, he's daring and wouldn't hesitate to make pushes on players he think's are scum. He's been scumreadng me since at least 212, and yet he is not building a case on me at all. Probably just wants to incline town to get rid of me.

First, the argument is that I'm not posting enough. Quoted post for reference.

Press X to doubt

On my statement or on Greeting's alignment?

Kinda both, mostly the latter
I don’t sense a notable difference from the game I modded rn in Greeting’s play.

Three of town!Greeting's contributions by this point in time from the game you modded:

Catching up, I am happy to announce that both

intuile

and

Ausuka

are probably town.

Frogsterking

less likely town than the other two, but still I think more likely town than scum.

Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile,

Hoppip

Town

What's so towny about

hoppip

?

I'd also like Greeting to elaborate on their reads I guess

I have played with

Frogsterking

before. He likes to troll around, and, in my experience, tone-wise, he usually falls into the category "too scummy to be scum". It's a meta read from experience, because not knowing that, his ISO is very confusing.

Still, there is a more obvious sign pointing to him being town: I completely agree with his reads from 41, and he was the first one in the thread to make this observation actually. Some of his later reads are admittedly a bit hurried, and shaky (such as 137), but to be fair this overall sounds like town!

Frog

actively sorting rather than scum!

Frog

throwing random reads around. Maybe if he expands more on his reads, the townread will get more firm, but I'm happy to give him a townlean for now.

People don't tend to take him seriously because of the way he posts, but

Frogsterking

can be a pretty capable player if he wants to be.

@

Ausuka

The read on

intuile

/shiki is more of a tone/meta read too. I've played with

intuile

's other alts and she also played in a game I hosted. To be fair, if someone has so many alts, they could just play in a different way on each alt and no one would notice.

Intuile

tends to play the exact same way tone-wise when she's town, and this game is no different. Her interactions with you sounds like town!

intuile

sorting and your responses sound like a townie defending himself.

This is a pretty standard game opener for this site, I didn't really have anything to say to you because nothing you said was alignment indicative, sorry for ignoring you

yeah your opener pretty paint by numbers but you're aware so

like

vote someone
say something about someone else in same post
encourage engagement
make an early read!!

I don't think it would be typical of scum to try to make a read out of this, but in my mind it reads as typical of town!

intuile

to try to make a read out of you being friendly in your opening post (5).

She actually said herself what she does in mafia games, and I confirm that in my experience it's true:

but not alignment related, so! more a wondering aloud

Tl;dr: your interaction with

intuile

looks like town vs. town, and shiki is just being herself.

As for strictly you, I would say that your tone reads as towny in general, but I would say that my townread of

intuile

is stronger than my townread of you, as there is significantly less content and active scumhunting in your posts.

The reason for me not having posted reads within the first, what, 48 hours of the game were RL reasons, but once that was over I got to game solving.

Now the argument is that my reads are made up.

After reviewing the thread (which is very easy to do due to the lack of bloat) I've decided I don't feel comfortable tunneling on Fennec and Fennec should probably be a Town lean despite Greeting's point. I also want to point out that Greeting's play is closely aligned with their scum meta rather than their Town meta.

I mentioned earlier that scum!Greeting was capable of forging Town tells for the latter half of D1 and overall I suspect that's what they're up to with this Fennec push.

I think MariaR is the best place to go and I'm fine with someone hammering there if a flash wagon occurs.

Honestly, his early interaction with the

Fennec

slot were terrible and not something I would expect from town!

Frogsterking

.

I am down to yeet out

Frogsterking

today too.

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I forgot about the one last thing I absolutely hate from

Frogsterking

's play and that is assuming Crescent/

BCG

was a scumslot when truth is that the game started early and Crescent had literally two posts.

I mean this might have been a scum slot after all

What kind of anti-town bs is all this.

I checked the ISO of the slot he's pushing right now,

MariaR

, and while the slot is not really very towny, it's not very scummy either. I would say it's a nullread.

MariaR

, however, also said this about

Frog

's play:

I've been trying to think of if there's a worldview where Frog is just a villa who is wrong but I can't get over the fact they just made up a worldview that never existed to begin with, and acted like they had this grand bait scheme. (didn't happen)

And I kinda think she nailed it. I don't think these two would be scum together, and my money is on

Frogsterking

.

VOTE: Frogsterking

[Greeting]

Checking in once again after the site lockdown. Why are we hanging

MariaR

? I remember having her down as a nullread.

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I re-read most of

MariaR

's ISO and she sounds like a defensive townie.

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what’s the case on MT here?

Nothing more than the usual Mislim Target reasoning unless I missed something.

VOTE: Dragons

This should be the D1 flip though IMO, Dragons ISO is hands down the worst in this game. I thought about this game during the shutdown and I think Dragons is likely to be a scum flip with Greeting chainsawing me over him. I'm even open to being wrong on every single one of my previous scum reads except my Dragon read really. Greeting I think is probably scum but maybe I'm wrong and they're having an off game or something, Chungus/Pooky being troll could be NAI and Maria falsely accused is a thing.

I'd rank these players in terms of dodginess, highest-to-lowest:

Dragons, Greeting, Chungus, Pooky, Maria,

For real though, Dragons needs to be one of the main wagons today, and if he flips scum then I'm probably pushing Greeting tomorrow.

__

Maybe a better visual way to organize what I'm saying:

Null: Maria + a handful of others I'll have to reread

Scum lean/mild suspicion: Chungus, Pooky

Low certainty scum read: Greeting

Moderate certainty scum read: Dragons

Why do you think

Save The Dragons

is scum, and more interestingly, scum with me?

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I don't like the defense of

MalcolmTucker

too, in my opinion, he's done quite little to solve the game compared to the games I've seen him in. I have literally used the same excuse of "limbait" to try to sway town against eliminating an anti-town player when we both were scum together in Newbie 2100 (that is

KittyTacky

). Being limbait isn't really an excuse for doing nothing, especially if it's not the player's meta to do nothing every game (which, in my personal experience, is true for

marcistar

and

Toogeloo

).

[Greeting]

your case is wishy washy, all over the place, and untrue. it feels like you decided i'm scum and are just coming up with more and more reasons to pigeonhole me into this mindset. i think you've confirmbiased yourself and need to reset and actually consider what's been put out vs. decided i'm low content and therefore must be scum.

i don't know why you think i'm dodgy, i don't think i've been dodgy at all. i've given my reads my way and have been pretty clear about them.

most of this post is blustering and not an actual case and i'm not sure what you're hoping to gain from this, it almost seems like you're being dodgy especially since someone asked you a question about me and you get distracted by someone else

Why does this sound like a copypasta?

[Greeting]

So, who we killing and why

Dragons please, scum slot IMO

Can you like literally point to us why is he scum?

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UNVOTE: MalcomTucker

My phone says Malcolm's catch up posts are decent

I agree to be fair. They remind me of his downplay in general. I'm leaving

MalcomTucker

for the time being.

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Though

Frog

kinda has a point, the Crescent/

BCG

slot is bad and we might need to just policy elim them.

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UNVOTE: MalcomTucker

My phone says Malcolm's catch up posts are decent

I agree to be fair. They remind me of his downplay in general. I'm leaving

MalcomTucker

for the time being.

Oh my God. Why did this autocorrect. I meant townplay of course.

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UNVOTE: Frogsterking

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Here's my reads from pages 1 to 30. If you have any questions, direct them to BigChungusGaming@gmail.not, which I am now volunteering to be part of.

Up to page 5 reads:

Spoiler:

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

Marci

Malcolm

Gamma

Nero

Up to page 10:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

SirRhett

Marci

Gamma

Malcolm

Greeting

Nero

Up to 15:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

SaveTheDragons

Marci

SirRhett

KittyTacky

Nero

Gamma

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 20:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Frogster

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Big Chungus

Charloux

SirRhett

KittyTacky

Nero

Gamma

Pooky

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 25:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Big Chungus

Frogster

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Charloux

KittyTacky

SirRhett

Pooky

Enchant

Gamma

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 30:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Big Chungus

Frogster

KittyTacky

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Pooky

Charloux

KittyTacky

SirRhett

Gamma

Enchant

Toogeloo

Greeting

Malcolm

bb explain

I really don't see how

MalcolmTucker

can be anyone's biggest scumread in this game. Even if he really is scum.

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I’m just going to stop taking this game seriously. Bye Felicia.

VOTE: Big Chungus Gaming

[Greeting]

I’m just going to stop taking this game seriously. Bye Felicia.

VOTE: Big Chungus Gaming

Who is Felicia?

It's a slang phrase, reference to a 90s film.

[Greeting]

Furtiveglance

's reads on everyone are literally useless when left unexplained, but I townread his predecessor so I'll be directing my attention elsewhere.

[Greeting]

Omg now I feel bad about saying you’re doing nothing

marci

. It wasn’t personal, and wasn’t meant to be personal.

[Greeting]

Anyway, to be honest, I kinda lost the drive and willingness for gamesolving in this game. Like a baloon that has been deflating. If this new wagon on me builds up I’ll do a final readslist and then you can eliminate me, because I don’t think I’m going to do well in this particular game.

Or maybe I’m just scum who pretends to be disinterested? Up to you to decide.