hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

[furtiveglance]

furtiveglance replaces Fennec

Hellooooooooooo

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Enchant

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Enchant

BGC and Dragons might be a scum v scum cross so I'd prefer if you read their isos and see if you dislike either enough to vote.

PEdit

Same

I haven't really read anything yet. but Enchant sus!

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Enchant

BGC and Dragons might be a scum v scum cross so I'd prefer if you read their isos and see if you dislike either enough to vote.

PEdit

Same

I see you declined to mention that you also have 3 votes. Haha

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Enchant

why
I actually lean town on encanto rn

Damn you're mafia so I'm probably wrong

[furtiveglance]

hi furtive gib reads so i can steal them

Town: You, Charloux, Chungus, Frog

Sus: Enchant, Gamma, Malcolm, Pooky, everyone else in the lobby

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Enchant

BGC and Dragons might be a scum v scum cross so I'd prefer if you read their isos and see if you dislike either enough to vote.

PEdit

Same

I see you declined to mention that you also have 3 votes. Haha

I believe you replaced into a Town slot and I was being polite but I can be bossy too. I read what Bell said about your play lmao. I think what he said is right and I also think there are probably some redeeming qualities in your play.

Not dense.....

[furtiveglance]

Fennec was town guys. I'm pretty sure anyway

[furtiveglance]

Here's my reads from pages 1 to 30. If you have any questions, direct them to BigChungusGaming@gmail.not, which I am now volunteering to be part of.

Up to page 5 reads:

Spoiler:

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

Marci

Malcolm

Gamma

Nero

Up to page 10:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

SirRhett

Marci

Gamma

Malcolm

Greeting

Nero

Up to 15:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Frogster

Cape90

Charloux

SaveTheDragons

Marci

SirRhett

KittyTacky

Nero

Gamma

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 20:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Frogster

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Big Chungus

Charloux

SirRhett

KittyTacky

Nero

Gamma

Pooky

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 25:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Big Chungus

Frogster

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Charloux

KittyTacky

SirRhett

Pooky

Enchant

Gamma

Toogeloo

Malcolm

Greeting

Up to 30:

Spoiler:

MariaR

Marci

Big Chungus

Frogster

KittyTacky

SaveTheDragons

Cape90

Pooky

Charloux

KittyTacky

SirRhett

Gamma

Enchant

Toogeloo

Greeting

Malcolm

[furtiveglance]

I made one error, see if you can spot it!

[furtiveglance]

Not_Mafia replaces Gamma Emerald

Oh God. At least he is in a townie slot.

@furtive What's the case on Enchant?

I was scumreading Nero and Enchant didn't really change it. But I should probably move my vote.

Greeting and Malcolm are my big scumreads.

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

[furtiveglance]

unofficial vote count 1.8.2!

Big Chungus Gaming (4):

KittyTacky, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo, Frogsterking

Save The Dragons (3):

Charloux, STD, Maria

Frogsterking (2):

Big Chungus Gaming, Save The Dragons

Enchant (1):

Cape90

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

Malcolm (1):

Not mafia, furtiveglance

Furtive (1):

Enchant

not voting (1):

MalcolmTucker, Greeting

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

Top wagons all town. I'll vote Greeting, Malcolm or Toogeloo.

[furtiveglance]

I could see marci/mariar/bgc/greeting

Don't quote your own posts, PLEASE.

VOTE: Greeting

[furtiveglance]

marci, am I still shady uwu?

ur mid

Marci there's like no way you're Town here lmao

thats what ive been saying!! stop stealing my reads smhs
why dont u set up a wagon on me if ur so sure? i bet u wont : P you saw in lost i went pretty far, are you not afraid? (:

Marci why are you trying to derail the Greeting wagon?

cuz i like greeting as a person. (nah i just have a gut feeling rn and i wanna test)
my turn, why were you so buddy buddy w me until i voiced my feelings on u

I could see marci/mariar/bgc/greeting

nah ur one dimensional thinking

u should consider frogster is just not town and thats why the 1 dimensional thinking *kpop dance*

Have you seen

this game?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89826

[furtiveglance]

@Mod :

I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm

I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.

My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.

Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.

I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.

Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.

Charloux your townread is important to me. How about you townread me if I townread you?

[furtiveglance]

Charloux your townread is important to me. How about you townread me if I townread you?

That's a red flag if i have ever seen one.

Deal or no deal?

[furtiveglance]

I'll explain all my reads when I have time, in a few hours.

[furtiveglance]

I'll explain all my reads when I have time, in a few hours.

sounds good. i had fennec as fairly towny b4 they were replaced so nice to see you're continuing the trend.

Do you like the 'you're town if I'm town' idea then?

[furtiveglance]

I know I said I don't have time now. But I don't really, it takes a while to explain that stuff. Right now I have 10 mins while I wait for my pizza to cook. Then I'll be back on later.

[furtiveglance]

Of course y’all are just going to assume that I was pocketing

Cape90

, I can’t just say I like his avi anymore.

I think that if

Fennec

is scum, there's a higher chance of

Toogeloo

being scum too.

Anyway, let's find out.

VOTE: Fennec

I forgot about the one last thing I absolutely hate from

Frogsterking

's play and that is assuming Crescent/

BCG

was a scumslot when truth is that the game started early and Crescent had literally two posts.

I mean this might have been a scum slot after all

What kind of anti-town bs is all this.

I checked the ISO of the slot he's pushing right now,

MariaR

, and while the slot is not really very towny, it's not very scummy either. I would say it's a nullread.

MariaR

, however, also said this about

Frog

's play:

I've been trying to think of if there's a worldview where Frog is just a villa who is wrong but I can't get over the fact they just made up a worldview that never existed to begin with, and acted like they had this grand bait scheme. (didn't happen)

And I kinda think she nailed it. I don't think these two would be scum together, and my money is on

Frogsterking

.

VOTE: Frogsterking

I think Greeting can be scumread just for these posts. I probably started scumreading Greeting after the avi comment. Voting me (town), refusing to townread Frogsterking (one of my first townreads), just bad stuff.

[furtiveglance]

Hello.

scumpost ngl

Oops, I'll need to go ask my buddies to bus.

I like Fennec's approach so far, they seem open and townie.

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

I've been trying to think of if there's a worldview where Frog is just a villa who is wrong but I can't get over the fact they just made up a worldview that never existed to begin with, and acted like they had this grand bait scheme. (didn't happen)

MT needs to have more votes on them, just look at that iso and tell me that's a villager mindset and not someone just watching from the sides taking shots posting busywork. It's such an obvious wolf iso

This is a lazy post and feels like an attempt to shift attention away from their Frogster read which clearly wasn't happening onto me. I've been relatively low activity so far but "watching from the sides taking shots" doesn't make sense, either I am watching from the sides and doing nothing or I am taking shots and committing to reads. Can't be both.

I'll go for these early posts from Malcolm. The joke about asking buddies to bus is just awkward, and MariaR is one of my strongest townreads.

[furtiveglance]

What if we hammered before a replacement was found for Greeting? Then no one has to replace into a doomed slot...

[furtiveglance]

What if we hammered before a replacement was found for Greeting? Then no one has to replace into a doomed slot...

you still alive?

Yeah, is there a problem? Actually that sounds really phony.

I'm alive yeah.

[furtiveglance]

I don't know that I understand the case on greeting

Careful wording. What made you choose these words? You could have said 'why Greeting'?

[furtiveglance]

I don't know that I understand the case on greeting

Careful wording. What made you choose these words? You could have said 'why Greeting'?

this is just how i fucking talk

what the fuck is this

Level 1 straightforwardness: Why Greeting
Level 2: I don't understand the case on Greeting
Level 3: I don't know that I understand the case on Greeting

It's a thought that I had.

[furtiveglance]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.10 !

Alisae (4):

Frogsterking, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo

Frogsterking (3):

Save The Dragons, Big Chungus Gaming, MariaR

Big Chungus Gaming (2):

KittyTacky, Alisae

MalcolmTucker (2):

Not_Mafia, furtiveglance

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

furtiveglance (1):

Enchant

not voting (3):

MalcolmTucker, Charloux, Cape90

I voted Alisae (Greeting) in 1008.

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

modorator notes

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[furtiveglance]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.10 !

Alisae (4):

Frogsterking, Titus, PookyTheMagicalBear, Toogeloo

Frogsterking (3):

Save The Dragons, Big Chungus Gaming, MariaR

Big Chungus Gaming (2):

KittyTacky, Alisae

MalcolmTucker (2):

Not_Mafia, furtiveglance

Toogeloo (1):

marcistar

furtiveglance (1):

Enchant

not voting (3):

MalcolmTucker, Charloux, Cape90

I voted Alisae (Greeting) in 1008.

with 16 alive, it takes 9 to blow someone up. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 15:00:00)

modorator notes

• e

Accidentally typed in the spoiler there, I voted Greeting though. In 1008. So another one on Alisae

[furtiveglance]

1009 my reads list

I think greeting(now replaced by alisae)/chungus(koba alt?)/dragons/maria is just the scum team, the rest of you all seem pretty genuine to me currently. I will try to post a better presented version of my reads list later. I suggest referencing it if I get N1ed and you get stuck.

Haven't you just picked 4 quite loud/active players?

[furtiveglance]

i honestly kinda thinking froggie x chungus is tvt

and im not impressed by alisae so far

Hey I said that.

I SAID that.

[furtiveglance]

Twilight time. This is just a humble request to the mafia. Pls don't kill me guys!

[furtiveglance]

Are we playing Pretend We Don't Know What This Flips?

[furtiveglance]

What if we hammered before a replacement was found for Greeting? Then no one has to replace into a doomed slot...

Prescient

[furtiveglance]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

What's IIoA?

[furtiveglance]

@Mod :

I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm

I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.

My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.

Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.

I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.

Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.

This feels really weak and scummy, almost blatantly so to a degree that's comical. One scumread on someone who was inactive, up for policy eliminations for pretty flimsy reasons in Toog's case especially and not much content in general despite being a lengthy post.

'Someone who was inactive'

Does it affect your read here that you were that player? I think it might...

[furtiveglance]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

What's IIoA?

Information instead of analysis. MT doesn't say anything about what he thinks the night kill actually reflects, he just points out that it's a factor and leaves it hanging as some kind of implied counterpoint against Kitty's case being "spot on."

Pedit

I don't like him going after Charloux here either.

VOTE: Malcolm

I want Big Chungus dead D3 especially if this flips scum.

My gut reaction is also a bad one to these posts of Malcolm. 'We obviously aren't paired' makes me think 'we distanced really well' and I thought Malcolm was scum yesterday as well. However my other scumread was wrong. I may be in over my head here. Sometimes it's good to let the game play out a bit and the scummers will kind of sink to the bottom.

Anyway, I'll join you for now because I gotta be right on something

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

[furtiveglance]

I feel like Fennec was power towning quite well and I came in and ruined it haha. Oh well.

[furtiveglance]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

[furtiveglance]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

What do you mean by this?

I've described it in a slightly metaphorical way. But I was looking through the ISO and saw some sus posts. But then I saw some unsus posts. And now I'm settled

[furtiveglance]

I'm still catching up but it feels like things have gotten overly personal between you guys and I'm unsure if that's influencing your read here to the degree where anyone backing away/not fully convinced on BCG who isn't obvious town to you is then being read as scum.

Bullshit.

Answer me this - do you think BCG would have been likely to eliminate a player who had what looked like a really strong read on them? And if so, why do you think they took this approach?

This doesn't really help you either way

[furtiveglance]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

What do you mean by this?

I've described it in a slightly metaphorical way. But I was looking through the ISO and saw some sus posts. But then I saw some unsus posts. And now I'm settled

Is your thinking perhaps somewhat similar to mine here? The post I flagged a few up from Charloux - which I didn't like - is one I said felt blatantly so scummy. But I can see a world where it comes from town because scum is perhaps more self-aware than literally listing one scum suspect who is absent anyway? It's a slot that's sometimes looking so scummy to me it might not actually end up being scum if that makes sense.

Could this be a mythical mindmeld? Legend has it that a mindmeld clears both players as town forever.

[furtiveglance]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

What do you mean by this?

I've described it in a slightly metaphorical way. But I was looking through the ISO and saw some sus posts. But then I saw some unsus posts. And now I'm settled

Is your thinking perhaps somewhat similar to mine here? The post I flagged a few up from Charloux - which I didn't like - is one I said felt blatantly so scummy. But I can see a world where it comes from town because scum is perhaps more self-aware than literally listing one scum suspect who is absent anyway? It's a slot that's sometimes looking so scummy to me it might not actually end up being scum if that makes sense.

Could this be a mythical mindmeld? Legend has it that a mindmeld clears both players as town forever.

It's like an inverse mindmeld. I see the posts and scumread them but understand the town logic behind them. You see the posts as townie but see where the scumminess could come from.

Legend has it that an inverse mindmeld reveals 1 player to be mafia and also gladiates them for the day.

[furtiveglance]

Aw man I'm lost. I'll say something tomorrow

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: furtiveglance

based on today, it really extremely feels like this is correct

Please don't do this. I can move my vote. I can change!

What does the acronym with the RWST mean?

[furtiveglance]

I feel like I kind of hamstrung myself earlier. How do we feel about U-turns on reads?

[furtiveglance]

I feel like I kind of hamstrung myself earlier. How do we feel about U-turns on reads?

Also VOTE: bcg that 180 is giving me whiplash

Oh ok. Well you're gonna love this

VOTE: marcistar

[furtiveglance]

I feel like I kind of hamstrung myself earlier. How do we feel about U-turns on reads?

I think Pooky might be scum. How's that for a U-Turn?

Not a U-turn because the bear alliance was always meme-based

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: furtiveglance

based on today, it really extremely feels like this is correct

Please don't do this. I can move my vote. I can change!

What does the acronym with the RWST mean?

why r u like this :rosejudge:

VOTE: furitve

I feel like I kind of hamstrung myself earlier. How do we feel about U-turns on reads?

Also VOTE: bcg that 180 is giving me whiplash

Oh ok. Well you're gonna love this

VOTE: marcistar

looks like somebodies pressed

Pressed indeed

What is rosejudge?

[furtiveglance]

why r u so pressed

I think the 'so' is a little unnecessary. I don't even really feel that pressed to be honest. I thought your vote on me was opportunistic.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: furtiveglance

based on today, it really extremely feels like this is correct

Please don't do this. I can move my vote. I can change!

What does the acronym with the RWST mean?

I'm not liking these posts from Furtive at all. I feel like town Furtive (and I think I've only ever played with town Furtive) is open-minded but also quite decisive - when they believe in a read, which they appeared to do with me, they will commit to it and try to push it to get some pressure. As soon as Frogster backs off Furtive does so too and immediately begins to sort of bargain with other players wanting to vote from them...as a style of play this just feels a bit off from what I'm used to with them in games.

I think I've been too stubborn in the past. This game is harder than others I've played in.

[furtiveglance]

I think I've been too stubborn in the past. This game is harder than others I've played in.

What's so difficult about it?

Mafia playing well

[furtiveglance]

I was unsure when I voted marci but I feel better about it now.

[furtiveglance]

noimnot

[furtiveglance]

whats ev mean

Expected value, meaning if we sheep your reads we hit scum more often than random chance.

SIMP

eh i dont agree but whateva

I will place some ideas out, I think i can give cape a decent town read... like a Null leaning town. everyone else? i gotta read up more on their meta and the game needs to progress more. For now, I'll be gone for an hour, i just woke up.

please do give more ideas i wanna hear
i don't agree with a cape tr quite yet, think hes a capable player.
i kinda instinctively wanna tr u tho.. >.<

why is being swayed by nero even a bad thing?

i like dragons... am i wrong to?

Pockety positioning

[furtiveglance]

ur "case" on me is so bad

Better than crab and rosejudge

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: furtiveglance

based on today, it really extremely feels like this is correct

Please don't do this. I can move my vote. I can change!

What does the acronym with the RWST mean?

why r u like this :rosejudge:

VOTE: furitve

i literally auoted a post here but apparenfly thats not reasoning

Damn you aouted me as mafia

[furtiveglance]

okay this sounds like a non serious argument between like 2 friends tbh

No we've only played once before and then briefly again in a game I replaced into.

This is serious beef, I never do joke votes.

[furtiveglance]

im just here wondering what happened to the WIM of furtive

That was Fennec, I'm me.

[furtiveglance]

Frogsterking, what do you think of marcistar?

Scumreads em, kanye not read?

[furtiveglance]

Marci there's like no way you're Town here lmao

Come and save me Frog!

[furtiveglance]

Marci there's like no way you're Town here lmao

Come and save me Frog!

see shit like this feels super buddyie

It was self aware so it doesn't count

[furtiveglance]

im just here wondering what happened to the WIM of furtive

That was Fennec, I'm me.

you were solving a lot when you came in, said you were gonna elaborate on your reads later, ended up kinda not doing so. Also marcistar is quite literally at the top of your readslist you posted day 1, AKA 922

you have explained your scumreads somewhat but never really touched on really anything else

I elaborated. You just said I never elaborated then linked to the post in which I elaborated.

Yeah my read on marci was wrong. I townread mediation and being reasonable again. I do it a lot.

[furtiveglance]

im just here wondering what happened to the WIM of furtive

That was Fennec, I'm me.

you were solving a lot when you came in, said you were gonna elaborate on your reads later, ended up kinda not doing so. Also marcistar is quite literally at the top of your readslist you posted day 1, AKA 922

you have explained your scumreads somewhat but never really touched on really anything else

I elaborated. You just said I never elaborated then linked to the post in which I elaborated.

Yeah my read on marci was wrong. I townread mediation and being reasonable again. I do it a lot.

Actually I never elaborated. You were right the first time.

[furtiveglance]

Can we agree on Cape/Frog/Maria/STD/MathBlade as a towncore or ...actually maybe just Frog and me. No one else

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Cape90

VOTE: Crescent

Pooky is nagl with 0 posts from Cape/Crescent in between

Toog seems to be following his d1 promise, so null on Toog

Pooky is being anti Pooky so nagl but I am not sure if it’s because I don’t understand Pooky

These 2 are both sus

[furtiveglance]

Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.

No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade

VOTE: BigChungusGaming

[furtiveglance]

Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.

No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade

VOTE: BigChungusGaming

What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.

It made me think AGAIN again about you, and now I'm still not sure on either of you.

[furtiveglance]

Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.

No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade

VOTE: BigChungusGaming

What did you think of Marci's case on me as someone who scumread me initially but seems to have cooled on said read a bit? The more I read it the less I like it - it's long and looks detailed and well thought-out at first but when I go back to it now it just looks quite desperate with most of the complaints primarily being about my somewhat noncommittal style.

It made me think AGAIN again about you, and now I'm still not sure on either of you.

Maybe I'm too forgiving but on the basis of recent posts my read on you is slightly shifting back to town. I am finding your playstyle a bit different to previous games but I've also been in the position myself as town before where I'm just struggling for definitive reads and end up sounding a bit incoherent and uncertain as a result.

If you were scum here you'd be good enough to come across as a bit more decisive on some slots to try and cool down any criticism - I feel like your most recent posts seem kinda honest about where you're at.

I'd be good enough

[furtiveglance]

Oh and I am okay with a Malcolm elim too.

Priority wise I am like
BGC
Malcolm/Frog
Titus

That’s priority order of who I would elim atm

Sorry, I know I'm flaking content-wise which I never usually do. This game has a few fairly high content players I have no familiarity with - Cape90, BCG and now Mathblade. You could maybe put Maria in there but they don't post so much. It makes the game as a whole quite opaque since I don't even have the basic starting point of sorting in the microcosm of a few big characters. So my plan was to vote lurky/low content slots instead. But now I'm leaning towards MathBlade's conclusion that the louder group has scum in and voting in there is good for town. These are just my general thoughts.

No one's really hopped on marci, I'll sheep what I believe is a loud town in MathBlade

VOTE: BigChungusGaming

Just gonna point out that
1. Me and Frogsterking are kinda townread by Math, moreso Frogsterking.
2. Big Chungus kinda got real quiet today

Well I was looking at this post, maybe I put some wrong names in but I wanted to amalgamate my own high-posting tough reads with MathBlade's votepool

[furtiveglance]

I'm about to rescind my offer of giving my vote to Malcom since they are being boring with it.

I actually don't have any problems with Frog's townbloc as of right now, however, I do disagree with some of the townbloc town reading Maria. I think Maria is scum. I think Pooky is scum.

Talk more about Pooky and your journey from friends to foes.

[furtiveglance]

Shall we vote out Big Chungus

[furtiveglance]

Wow okay

Let’s vote out BGC and mass claim. We are at close to half the game claimed invest.

Anyone who wants to be voyeur checked out their target.

What is a voyeur?
What is gated?
What kind of role checks if someone is an invest?

[furtiveglance]

Ok yeah I agree with vote out Chungus, mass claim or don't and most importantly sheep MathBlade into oblivion

[furtiveglance]

@Furtiveglance What's your pooky read?

Town

Claim seems to check out with other roles

[furtiveglance]

@Furtiveglance What's your pooky read?

Town

Claim seems to check out with other roles

Reads list generally?

Claiming is just +town in my mind for some reason, so marci going up. I can't really find many mafia but yeah BCG seems a good vote

[furtiveglance]

I'm not getting into a debate with you on mech. No one slot needs a crap ton of investigations. I'm not obeying King Math.

I'm willing to talk with Player Math about my reads.

I am not King Math.

I literally asked you for a different plan.

You decided “Nope my way and we don’t plan”

That’s Queen Titus.

I asked for your plan. Any other.

I am this close to voting you out for the same shit as Lost.

Prince Furtive?

[furtiveglance]

Titus is being insulting furtive. She’s trying to say I am ruling the thread with an iron fist.

She is of course wrong your Majesty.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Toogeloo

[furtiveglance]

Not_Mafia - Vigilante
Enchant - Vigilante
Frogsterking - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Didn't Claim
Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard (Didn't claim actions)

Spoiler: Acts

N1: ???

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
furtiveglance - Didn't Claim
PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Didn't Claim
Toogeloo - Claims "Investigative"
MathBlade - Vouyer

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Cape90. Result: No one.

marcistar - Modified Tracker

Spoiler: Acts:

N1: No Action

MariaR - Vanilla Townie

Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Not_Mafia

Did i miss anything?

Put me down as a gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative vanilla town.

[furtiveglance]

furtiveglance - gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative Vanilla Townie

VOTE: furtive

I'm

rolecop

and I have a report on furtive which indicates they're some kind of weird roleblocker. I'll dig up the actual report in a second.

I FoS Pooky and BcG. Maybe MathBlade for pushing this dumb plan --which fails to see a single roleblock-- so hard. I wouldn't be sad to see MathBlade killed by a vig. Pooky's claim doesn't fit with my role and Pooky is sus anyway. I also think BcG is sus.

Yes you have outted me. I'm a weird Joat, with roleblock, track and alien. Town novice JOAT. alien is like a roleblock which also roleblocks players who targeted my target

[furtiveglance]

Guys stop. I thought my role was cool and didn't want to massclaim

[furtiveglance]

PSA

:

My guilty on furtive (Fennec) is dedicated in memory of Greeting. Sorry for leading on you Greeting. RIP.

It's not a guilty. I never agreed to massclaiming.

[furtiveglance]

alien is like a roleblock which also roleblocks players who targeted my target

No. That's a rolestopper.

I literally just read my role, and that's what it is

[furtiveglance]

PSA

:

My guilty on furtive (Fennec) is dedicated in memory of Greeting. Sorry for leading on you Greeting. RIP.

It's not a guilty. I never agreed to massclaiming.

Bullshit.

Is it inconceivable to you that a player with my role wouldn't want to claim..... I have no notes btw, it's each night after the first night that I can act

[furtiveglance]

I have no notes btw,

Scum tell. Nobody asked for notes.

People might be interested.....I would obviously track first

[furtiveglance]

Is it inconceivable to you that a player with my role wouldn't want to claim

YOU CLAIMED VT

Because I didn't think someone would rolecop Fennec the obvious town

[furtiveglance]

Is it inconceivable to you that a player with my role wouldn't want to claim

YOU CLAIMED VT

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

I obviously wanted to live.....

[furtiveglance]

I have no notes btw,

Scum tell. Nobody asked for notes.

People might be interested.....I would obviously track first

I really don’t care atm.

If you’re town you’re too much a liability.

But if you are town then that is something we can use going forward

It’s too much of a risk.

What are your reads?

What are you on about? Liability to town?

[furtiveglance]

The sketch vibes from furtive are intense!

Are you just openwolfing now.......

Let me use this time to say: Rolecop. ROLECOP. Not alignment, just role. Which alignment usually has this role? What sounds more familiar?

1) Town Rolecop
2) Mafia Rolecop

We all know it's the latter

[furtiveglance]

If you’re town you don’t have a positive use with all the invests claimed
If you’re scum you have the ability to fuck with a lot of people

Ergo between Frog saying you were a Joat and if you’re scum the ability you have to fuck with things

You living just doesn’t work.

I have a TRACK. I can track someone to the nightkill

[furtiveglance]

Furtive, reads please.

Antispew haha

I was probably wrong on Frog. Like Town rolecop.? Never seen that before, probably just milking his scum ability for a miscondemn.

I feel like a lot of loud voices are town - Math, Cape, STD and yourself.

Scum probably Toog, still think BCG despite the BG soft, and probably Not_Mafia or someone I've forgotten.

[furtiveglance]

:rosejudge:

is furtive limited at all

I couldn't do anything last night, if you mean my role.

If you mean my personality, nothing diagnosed!

[furtiveglance]

Oh, but Math. They are claiming Invest. Shouldn't we keep them alive to test them?

You are mafia

[furtiveglance]

Not_Mafia - Vigilante
Enchant - Vigilante
Frogsterking - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Didn't Claim
Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard (Didn't claim actions)

Spoiler: Acts

N1: ???

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
furtiveglance - Didn't Claim
PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Didn't Claim
Toogeloo - Claims "Investigative"
MathBlade - Vouyer

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Cape90. Result: No one.

marcistar - Modified Tracker

Spoiler: Acts:

N1: No Action

MariaR - Vanilla Townie

Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Not_Mafia

Did i miss anything?

Put me down as a gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative vanilla town.

This is also clearly a joke. I take no responsibility for being voted out if that happens. I never agreed to mass claim, or trueclaim. I never supported the idea. I made one jokey remark and now Frog wants to pull my pants down to cash in on a free miscondemn

[furtiveglance]

UNVOTE: furtiveglance

I am playing this like a Cubs fan on a jury trial....

Ty <3

[furtiveglance]

Is there any mechanical reason to believe Titus is town

Pretend I skimmed the boring mech part of the game

Furtive claimed VT (as a joke?)
Frog claimed rolecop on furtive got a Joat

Ergo we need to flip Furtive as it’s more likely Furtive is scum than not.

Howwwwwwwww

[furtiveglance]

I'm struggling to buy two town rolecops and Frogsterking being the only ungated claim...

I can buy missing a joke...

To borrow someone else’s words “you’re getting too caught up in the mech spec”

The simple answer is Furtive lied
Frog is a rolecop who checked him

OR frog knows Furtive is scum because they’re scumbuddies

Either way given Furtive has no town utility and if scum he would say he’d use his track to stay alive then fuck everything up with Alien it’s too much of a risk.

Plus furtive scum would imply Marci scum.

You and frog can sort each other tomorrow.

Yes I lied about being VT

[furtiveglance]

I'm serious but I'm stunned nobody really questioned my claim because it's a Day 4 Innocent Child level claim

I questioned it, I said you were mafia

[furtiveglance]

furtiveglance - gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative Vanilla Townie

VOTE: furtive

I'm

rolecop

and I have a report on furtive which indicates they're some kind of weird roleblocker. I'll dig up the actual report in a second.

I FoS Pooky and BcG. Maybe MathBlade for pushing this dumb plan --which fails to see a single roleblock-- so hard. I wouldn't be sad to see MathBlade killed by a vig. Pooky's claim doesn't fit with my role and Pooky is sus anyway. I also think BcG is sus.

ooh, nice and spicy'

VOTE: furtiveglance

I am ready to participate in the thunderdome between Frog/furtive

Hey, I'm not counterclaiming, ok? Frog COULD be town. All that happened is I said I was VT AS A JOKE and I'm not.

[furtiveglance]

I can't trust Frogsterking as much as I used to. Regardless, I can't see scum!Frogster faking a guilty on town!furtiveglance so furtiveglance is still the play.

I don't know how to interpret this game if there are 2 rolecops

It's not a guilty, and I'm not claiming to be VT anymore. I am really a Town Novice JOAT (1-shot roleblock, 1-shot alien (which is basically roleblock + roleblocks abilities which target my target), 1-shot track)

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Titus

This is so ?????????
I don't know what to make of it, like furtive claimed VT, but then just added a bunch of weird modifiers to it.
It would be one thing to just claim regular VT, it baits the night kills to not come after you

I agree it is ????

But we have to establish furtive scum so invests work tonight as furtive is

Titus is an enigma

I don’t want to throw away an almost sure scum for a maybe.

okay are we still at furtive is just mafia for lying?

This is the Pest R that I have ever got in a game, I didn't want to die

[furtiveglance]

I can't trust Frogsterking as much as I used to. Regardless, I can't see scum!Frogster faking a guilty on town!furtiveglance so furtiveglance is still the play.

I don't know how to interpret this game if there are 2 rolecops

It's not a guilty, and I'm not claiming to be VT anymore. I am really a Town Novice JOAT (1-shot roleblock, 1-shot alien (which is basically roleblock + roleblocks abilities which target my target), 1-shot track)

yeah yeah i got your claim. I think this whole situation is reminding me of mafia.gg where I guess mass claiming is the only way these people gonna solve XD

Talk to MB for me. Get him off!

[furtiveglance]

I can't trust Frogsterking as much as I used to. Regardless, I can't see scum!Frogster faking a guilty on town!furtiveglance so furtiveglance is still the play.

I don't know how to interpret this game if there are 2 rolecops

It's not a guilty, and I'm not claiming to be VT anymore. I am really a Town Novice JOAT (1-shot roleblock, 1-shot alien (which is basically roleblock + roleblocks abilities which target my target), 1-shot track)

You novice?

Why rolecop didn't point that in result?

Ask him

[furtiveglance]

This is the Pest R that I have ever got in a game, I didn't want to die

Pest R?

Best Response?

Powerest Role. Check through the games I've played, I hardly ever get PR

[furtiveglance]

I can't trust Frogsterking as much as I used to. Regardless, I can't see scum!Frogster faking a guilty on town!furtiveglance so furtiveglance is still the play.

I don't know how to interpret this game if there are 2 rolecops

It's not a guilty, and I'm not claiming to be VT anymore. I am really a Town Novice JOAT (1-shot roleblock, 1-shot alien (which is basically roleblock + roleblocks abilities which target my target), 1-shot track)

You novice?

Why rolecop didn't point that in result?

Ask him

Or we can flip you and if he was lying flip him?

Like I don’t see any reason to keep neg util around

Me flipping town does not make Frog mafia, I feel like a few people are starting to say this and it's giving me T/T setting up vibes

[furtiveglance]

I can't trust Frogsterking as much as I used to. Regardless, I can't see scum!Frogster faking a guilty on town!furtiveglance so furtiveglance is still the play.

I don't know how to interpret this game if there are 2 rolecops

It's not a guilty, and I'm not claiming to be VT anymore. I am really a Town Novice JOAT (1-shot roleblock, 1-shot alien (which is basically roleblock + roleblocks abilities which target my target), 1-shot track)

You novice?

Why rolecop didn't point that in result?

Ask him

Or we can flip you and if he was lying flip him?

Like I don’t see any reason to keep neg util around

Me flipping town does not make Frog mafia, I feel like a few people are starting to say this and it's giving me T/T setting up vibes

Then the “if” would not apply.

Because if you flip novice joat he wasn’t lying.

Like words exist for reasons

But we are agreeing. I am not saying he is lying. We both agree that I am a Novice Joat. So no reason to vote between us

[furtiveglance]

Frog, I am going to check in my pool of 1954.

Go elsewhere please.

You wanna vote the guilty?

There is no guilty, we are literally saying the same thing. I guarantee my role is the most special in this game, why should I claim at someone else's whim? I never agreed to.

[furtiveglance]

What do the records show

[furtiveglance]

Let the record show that a wagon is having trouble forming despite the guilty on furtive

There is no damn guilty

[furtiveglance]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

The VT claim was an obvious joke. D:<

[furtiveglance]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

The VT claim was an obvious joke. D:<

You have been sentenced to execution.

You are encouraged to post a reads list with explanations.

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

2 scum - probably Toog for memeing too much

I have no idea about other players, this game is literally too hard

[furtiveglance]

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

I was a Town rolecop in Lost.

Still, the way you've used it to earn a miscondemn here. If you were town you'd have kept quiet

[furtiveglance]

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

I was a Town rolecop in Lost.

Still, the way you've used it to earn a miscondemn here. If you were town you'd have kept quiet

Do you scum read Pooky?

No

[furtiveglance]

1 scum - you. Town never has Rolecops, Mafia do.

I was a Town rolecop in Lost.

Still, the way you've used it to earn a miscondemn here. If you were town you'd have kept quiet

Do you scum read Pooky?

No

Okay where is your read list?

I don't know who it is but it's not me

[furtiveglance]

I feel like town!furtive would scum read Pooky here.

Is it tho

[furtiveglance]

Furtive read list:
Town:

Pooky

Scum:

Frog
Toogle

If you were Town you wouldn't be afraid to share what you really think.

I'm not afraid, I just don't know. I massively townread MathBlade and now he's locking me in to be the elim in a way that doesn't feel right.

Cape is probably town.

[furtiveglance]

I'm becoming really confbiased that it's furtive

Lamist

[furtiveglance]

Furtive read list:
Town:

Pooky
Cape

??
MathBlade

Scum:

Frog
Toogle

If you were Town you wouldn't be afraid to share what you really think.

I'm not afraid, I just don't know. I massively townread MathBlade and now he's locking me in to be the elim in a way that doesn't feel right.

Cape is probably town.

What about Dragons and BcG?

Could be scummy yeah...I don't really buy the BG claim from BCG

[furtiveglance]

Furtive is scum frozen Aaaaaaahhh gottem

If you had my role, would you not want to hide? Like why don't you get that? I never agreed to massclaim. That was someone else's idea.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: furtive

Very faulty logic.

Enchant is scum for sure.

VOTE: Enchant

[furtiveglance]

Enchant dancing on my grave D:

[furtiveglance]

Game is nuts. Not sure I feel furtive though

Yeah neither.

[furtiveglance]

Enchant dancing on my grave D:

Just in a case. I can presume you are town wanting to dodge massclaim, because i also could do that. But how you act is not how town would.

Atleast Town!you should had some understanding that it's at minimum NAI for Rolecop to reveal you, when noticing you was lying. Your accusations are not towny.

So yeah. It will not work.

It will work, probably tomorrow or D4.

[furtiveglance]

I'd be perfectly content with a Furtive elimination at this point as well from a brief catch-up. Their jokey/playful tone doesn't feel natural and sounds more like scum to me trying to dodge suspicion by looking like they don't care, without having to particularly commit to reads.

Vote for me then, get your hands dirty.

[furtiveglance]

I'd be perfectly content with a Furtive elimination at this point as well from a brief catch-up. Their jokey/playful tone doesn't feel natural and sounds more like scum to me trying to dodge suspicion by looking like they don't care, without having to particularly commit to reads.

Vote for me then, get your hands dirty.

How many votes are you at? I'm wary because it seems you've accumulated a good few and we have some notorious quickhammer players in the game. If it's settled to eliminate you though I'm more than happy to hammer.

I don't know myself. It doesn't matter though. Anyone who votes for me is outed mafia, which may in fact mean this is a bastard game with ~ 8 mafia if I do get hammered.

[furtiveglance]

Ok I do agree that Frog is openwolfing at this point

VOTE: Frogsterking